libera/##covid-19/ Monday, 2020-06-08

BrainstormUpdates for Syria: +16 cases (now 141) since a day ago — Peru: +4757 cases (now 196515), +164 deaths (now 5465) since a day ago — California, US: +1659 cases (now 131612), +25 deaths (now 4653) since an hour ago — US: +2368 cases (now 2.0 million), +56 deaths (now 112477) since an hour ago00:09
BrainstormUpdates for Lodzkie, Poland: +228 cases (now 2007), +5 deaths (now 79) since 34 minutes ago — Karachay-Cherkessia, Russia: +150 cases (now 1580), +1 deaths (now 8) since 34 minutes ago — Delhi, India: +2602 cases (now 28936), +104 deaths (now 812) since 34 minutes ago — Maharashtra, India: +5746 cases (now 85975), +211 deaths (now 3060) since 34 minutes ago00:39
CoronaBot04/r/covid19: Study identifies potential approach to treat severe respiratory distress in patients with COVID-19 (82 votes) | https://redd.it/gych8s02:26
BrainstormUpdates for Guatemala: +263 cases (now 7055), +22 deaths (now 252) since a day ago — Mexico: +3484 cases (now 117103), +188 deaths (now 13699) since a day ago — Panama: +421 cases (now 16425), +7 deaths (now 393) since a day ago — Colombia: +1209 cases (now 39236), +54 deaths (now 1259) since a day ago03:39
BrainstormUpdates for Bhutan: +11 cases (now 59) since 2 days ago — Bolivia: +285 cases (now 13643), +11 deaths (now 465) since 23 hours ago — Honduras: +172 cases (now 6327), +8 deaths (now 258) since 23 hours ago — World: +473 cases (now 7.1 million), +19 deaths (now 406280) since an hour ago04:55
BrainstormUpdates for Haiti: +262 cases (now 3334), +1 deaths (now 51) since a day ago — World: +264 cases (now 7.1 million), +1 deaths (now 406281) since 18 minutes ago — Vietnam: +2 cases (now 331) since a day ago05:05
CoronaBot04/r/coronavirus: America Is Giving Up on the Pandemic (10129 votes) | https://redd.it/gyhvc906:46
kreyren%cases USA06:50
Brainstormkreyren: In US, there have been 2.0 million confirmed cases (0.6% of the population) and 112469 deaths (5.6% of cases) as of 3 hours ago. 25.5 million tests were performed (7.9% positive). Fatality can be broadly expected to lie between 1.9% (assuming deaths/cases with ⅔ undetected), and less than 12.9% (considering only deaths and recoveries). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=US for time series data.06:50
CoronaBot04/r/coronavirus: Psychopathic traits linked to non-compliance with social distancing guidelines amid the coronavirus pandemic (10070 votes) | https://redd.it/gylwgu07:28
CoronaBot04/r/coronavirus: Zero! NZ has no Covid-19 cases (10043 votes) | https://redd.it/gyowao08:16
ketaswtf08:17
ketassomebody give them some more08:18
ketasthey'll miss it08:19
MBip[m]%cases nz09:12
BrainstormMBip[m]: In Tanzania, there have been 509 confirmed cases (0.0% of the population) and 21 deaths (4.1% of cases) as of 30 days ago. 2680 tests were performed (19.0% positive). Fatality can be broadly expected to lie between 1.4% (assuming deaths/cases with ⅔ undetected), and less than 10.2% (considering only deaths and recoveries). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=Tanzania for time series data.09:12
MBip[m]%cases new zealand09:12
BrainstormMBip[m]: In New Zealand, there have been 1504 confirmed cases (0.0% of the population) and 22 deaths (1.5% of cases) as of 11 days ago. 294848 tests were performed (0.5% positive). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=New%20Zealand for time series data.09:12
MBip[m]What is the NZ that has zero cases?09:13
tinwhiskersMBip[m]: yes, New Zealand10:19
tinwhiskersZero active cases. There was 1500 cases previously but they've all been eliminated mostly via contact tracing.10:21
yuriwhogoooooooood morning Vietnam!11:07
yuriwhoI miss Bill. Murray11:08
kirk781yuriwho, hello11:32
Haley[mt][m]As long as he won't get bill murray'd ... :D11:35
pwr22Good on NZ11:36
pwr22I feel the UK policies are made by giving a monkey a pair of dice and seeing where they land11:36
BrainstormUpdates for Oman: +604 cases (now 17486), +6 deaths (now 81) since a day ago — Russia: +8985 cases (now 476658), +112 deaths (now 5971) since a day ago — Belarus: +823 cases (now 49453), +7 deaths (now 276) since 23 hours ago — Pakistan: +4728 cases (now 103671), +65 deaths (now 2067) since a day ago12:36
CoronaBot04/r/covid19: Blood group type may affect susceptibility to COVID-19 respiratory failure (83 votes) | https://redd.it/gytgjv12:42
generathey notice that only now?12:49
BrainstormUpdates for Nepal: +314 cases (now 3762), +1 deaths (now 14) since 23 hours ago — Benin: +27 cases (now 288), +1 deaths (now 4) since 3 days ago — World: +372 cases (now 7.2 million), +5 deaths (now 406638) since 18 minutes ago — Switzerland: +2 deaths (now 1923) since 18 minutes ago12:51
Jigsy%cases UK13:19
BrainstormConnectionError: HTTPConnectionPool(host='offloop.net', port=80): Max retries exceeded with url: /covid19h/unconfirmed.csv (Caused by NewConnectionError('<urllib3.connection.HTTPConnection object at 0x7fbe2de23350>: Failed to establish a new connection: [Errno 110] Connection timed out',)) (file "/home/brainstorm/.cache/pypoetry/virtualenvs/brainstorm-vhxt35-a-py2.7/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/requests/adapters.py", line 516, in 13:22
Jigsy[10:36:30] <pwr22> I feel the UK policies are made by giving a monkey a pair of dice and seeing where they land13:29
JigsyThat's unfair. Monkey's are smart. :P13:29
pwr22I was going more for their inability to communicate meaningfully so we have to resort to random chance 😁 13:36
JigsyI don't know, Koko learned sign language.13:40
peterxy[m]%cases nagaland14:20
Brainstormpeterxy[m]: In Nagaland, India, there have been 118 confirmed cases (0.0% of the population) and 0 deaths (0.0% of cases) as of 13 hours ago. See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=Nagaland for time series data.14:20
LjL%cases delhi14:51
BrainstormUpdates for Saudi Arabia: +3369 cases (now 105283), +34 deaths (now 746) since 23 hours ago — Djibouti: +71 cases (now 4278), +3 deaths (now 31) since 22 hours ago — Qatar: +1368 cases (now 70158), +3 deaths (now 57) since a day ago — Kuwait: +662 cases (now 32510), +5 deaths (now 269) since a day ago14:51
BrainstormLjL: In Delhi, India, there have been 28936 confirmed cases (1.7% of the population) and 812 deaths (2.8% of cases) as of 14 hours ago. Fatality can be broadly expected to lie between 0.9% (assuming deaths/cases with ⅔ undetected), and less than 6.9% (considering only deaths and recoveries). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=Delhi for time series data.14:51
LjL29000 is 1.7% of Delhi's population now? O.o14:51
underscorehi LjL 14:51
underscorehow are you?14:51
LjLhi14:51
LjLhmm, okay14:51
LjLlistening to music on my oldnew ebay stereo14:52
underscorenice14:52
LjLit's broken though, the radio doesn't work, i think it got knocked bad during shipping, despite the box having so much foam in it it was ridiculous to open it14:53
LjLi mainly wanted the tape deck but then i bought the whole package, bugs me that one thing doesn't work even if it's not the main one i wanted, i paid for them all14:53
LjLtinsoldier, the file reports the population of Delhi as 1678794, now i don't know what "Delhi" is defined as here, but i think no definition would have the population below 10 million... it's not your fault though because that's what Covidly reports, just saying14:58
blikjeham[m][m]%cases NL15:14
Brainstormblikjeham[m][m]: In Netherlands, there have been 47739 confirmed cases (0.3% of the population) and 6016 deaths (12.6% of cases) as of 29 minutes ago. 391624 tests were performed (12.2% positive). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=Netherlands for time series data.15:14
blikjeham[m][m]%casen netherlands15:14
Urchin[emacs]%cases croatia15:19
BrainstormUrchin[emacs]: In Croatia, there have been 2247 confirmed cases (0.1% of the population) and 104 deaths (4.6% of cases) as of 2 days ago. 68740 tests were performed (3.3% positive). Fatality can be broadly expected to lie between 1.5% (assuming deaths/cases with ⅔ undetected), and less than 4.7% (considering only deaths and recoveries). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=Croatia for time series data.15:19
underscore%cases gr15:32
BrainstormUpdates for Bahrain: +654 cases (now 15417) since 15 hours ago — Virginia, US: +570 cases (now 51251), +5 deaths (now 1477) since a day ago — US: +570 cases (now 2.0 million), +5 deaths (now 112477) since 47 minutes ago — World: +1386 cases (now 7.2 million), +10 deaths (now 406824) since 47 minutes ago15:32
Brainstormunderscore: In Greenland, there have been 13 confirmed cases (0.0% of the population) and 0 deaths (0.0% of cases) as of 11 days ago. 2288 tests were performed (0.6% positive). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=Greenland for time series data.15:32
underscore%cases greece15:32
Brainstormunderscore: In Greece, there have been 2997 confirmed cases (0.0% of the population) and 180 deaths (6.0% of cases) as of 20 hours ago. 193929 tests were performed (1.5% positive). Fatality can be broadly expected to lie between 2.0% (assuming deaths/cases with ⅔ undetected), and less than 11.6% (considering only deaths and recoveries). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=Greece for time series data.15:32
iz%cases usa15:37
Brainstormiz: In US, there have been 2.0 million confirmed cases (0.6% of the population) and 112477 deaths (5.6% of cases) as of 24 minutes ago. 25.5 million tests were performed (7.9% positive). Fatality can be broadly expected to lie between 1.9% (assuming deaths/cases with ⅔ undetected), and less than 12.9% (considering only deaths and recoveries). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=US for time series data.15:37
CoronaBot04/r/covid19: Identification of unique mutations in SARS-CoV-2 strains isolated from India suggests its attenuated pathotype (80 votes) | https://redd.it/gyv87515:49
Jigsy%cases UK17:00
BrainstormJigsy: In United Kingdom, there have been 287399 confirmed cases (0.4% of the population) and 40597 deaths (14.1% of cases) as of 35 minutes ago. 5.6 million tests were performed (5.1% positive). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=United%20Kingdom for time series data.17:00
Haley[mt][m]%cases USA17:01
BrainstormHaley[mt][m]: In US, there have been 2.0 million confirmed cases (0.6% of the population) and 112523 deaths (5.6% of cases) as of 12 minutes ago. 25.5 million tests were performed (7.9% positive). Fatality can be broadly expected to lie between 1.9% (assuming deaths/cases with ⅔ undetected), and less than 12.9% (considering only deaths and recoveries). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=US for time series data.17:01
BrainstormUpdates for Zambia: +111 cases (now 1200), +3 deaths (now 10) since 7 days ago — Chile: +4696 cases (now 138846), +74 deaths (now 2264) since 18 hours ago — Florida, US: +966 cases (now 64904), +9 deaths (now 2712) since 19 hours ago — World: +8100 cases (now 7.2 million), +147 deaths (now 407088) since 44 minutes ago17:09
CoronaBot04/r/covid19: Face Masks Considerably Reduce COVID-19 Cases in Germany: A Synthetic Control Method Approach (80 votes) | https://redd.it/gz0ds317:14
nixonixhttps://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2020-06/updv-btt060820.php17:36
nixonix%title17:36
Brainstormnixonix: From www.eurekalert.org: Bluetooth technology, the best ally to detect COVID-19 cases through smartphone contact tracing | EurekAlert! Science News17:36
BrainstormUpdates for Poland: +380 cases (now 27160), +5 deaths (now 1166) since 5 hours ago — French Guiana: +40 cases (now 729), +1 deaths (now 2) since a day ago — Alabama, US: +425 cases (now 20925), +26 deaths (now 718) since 23 hours ago — Azerbaijan: +323 cases (now 7876), +5 deaths (now 93) since 23 hours ago17:54
blikjeham[m][m]%cases florida17:56
Brainstormblikjeham[m][m]: In Florida, US, there have been 64904 confirmed cases (0.3% of the population) and 2712 deaths (4.2% of cases) as of 55 minutes ago. 1.2 million tests were performed (5.3% positive). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=US for time series data.17:56
BrainstormUpdates for Mississippi, US: +498 cases (now 17768), +20 deaths (now 837) since 23 hours ago — Greece: +52 cases (now 3049) since 23 hours ago — Arizona, US: +789 cases (now 27678), +3 deaths (now 1047) since 23 hours ago — Rhode Island, US: +201 cases (now 15642), +27 deaths (now 799) since 3 days ago18:24
_abc_This caught my attention today: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8398723/Satellite-data-traffic-rises-Wuhan-hospital-suggests-coronavirus-hit-China-SUMMER.html18:38
CoronaBot04/r/coronavirus: Shutdowns prevented 60 million coronavirus infections in the U.S., study finds (10169 votes) | https://redd.it/gyx1i718:39
_abc_s/prevented/delayed/18:39
_abc_Those car volume graphs go back too few years to see if there is something standing out but the online search stats are ominous. LOTS of potentially covid related symptoms looked up way before the real problem was even recognized in China.18:41
_abc_I'm curious if China has old age long time care homes and whether they registered persistent coughs and unusual deaths by pneumonia in 2019 and even 2018. That sort if place could have been a breeding ground for covid imo. Long term care homes in the West are notorious for breeding various hard to kill bugs. The patients get various problems which are hard to get rid of and are regularly dosed with 18:45
_abc_antibiotics. I know, my own grandpa was one for a while, and he got MRSA and could not shake it. He was treated like a leper when moved to a real hospital for other problems during that last year.18:45
hirogen_abc_> This caught my attention today: https://www.dailymail.co.uk < you should hang your head in disgrace i hate that paper.. 18:46
_abc_TB and other things are also very widely spread in such locations. I assume in China things are very similar at a certain level.18:46
_abc_hirogen: I am in the habit of not shooting the messenger. Not before he talks, at least. One can trace down the article/study that article refers to and critique that instead of bashing a tabloid. I'm grateful the tabloid does the finger walking and finds things for me to read, even if I have to sleuth after the real source after that.18:47
_abc_And yes you are right a lot of things are not ok with what they write and how they write but they DO dig up the dirt, that is the point.18:48
_abc_I have not seen the article they refer to linked in other mainstream media and it is interesting.18:48
_abc_other "news" outlets seem to be "fully syndicated" meaning they regurgitate the same "news" selected by unelected people like everyone else.18:49
_abc_Back to covid /done with noise18:49
_abc_I am really curious now how China handles it sizeable old age population. I assume a lot of them are living with their families, what happens when that no longer works?18:52
_abc_Search for "old age care in China" brings up results which strongly suggest they have LOTS of long term care homes. And we heard nothing specific about those in the Wuhan covid epidemic context. They were bulked with all other infections? No separate stats?18:53
_abc_https://www.chinadaily.com.cn/a/201910/08/WS5d9c4004a310cf3e3556f300.html relevant (October 2019) "over 84% of seniors prefer to stay with their families". So 15% stay in nursing homes.18:54
BrainstormUpdates for Suriname: +1 deaths (now 2) since 20 hours ago — Minnesota, US: +338 cases (now 28224), +11 deaths (now 1208) since a day ago — Indiana, US: +226 cases (now 37623), +13 deaths (now 2316) since a day ago — Ecuador: +258 cases (now 43378), +21 deaths (now 3642) since a day ago18:54
_abc_https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/cluster-of-deaths-found-at-wuhan-nursing-home-near-seafood-market indeed, but this is a late occurrence.18:57
_abc_I would be curious to see stats for 2019 and 2018 even. It seems that reporting is "doctored" more than a little.18:57
_abc_It is notorious that Western nursing homes lie about their "death rate" and do everything they can such that the deaths are registered at the hospital where a senior with a code blue is taken usually. Again, speaking from my own experience in the family, and extended.18:58
_abc_So finding information after the fact is effectively super hard even in the West. The code blue occurs in the nursing home, ER are called, they try resuscitation, take patient to the hospital where more resusc is tried then they write up the death as having occurred in the hospital. The nursing homes are super trained to call ER at the 1st sign of trouble, for more than one reason. Removing the ER 19:02
_abc_response from the view of the other residents is just one reason.19:02
pynareminds me of reading house of god, ugh19:05
pynafinancial incentives for doing awful shit to keep dementia patients alive19:06
_abc_https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/cluster-of-deaths-found-at-wuhan-nursing-home-near-seafood-market .sg article (thus uncensed by Chinese state authorities) on long term care/nursing home occurrences in China during Covid.19:07
_abc_Appears that in China, the nursing home does not automatically transfer the sick to hospital, probably to do with (no) health insurance in China. It's all about money. They call the family to take the senior to hospital!!19:08
_abc_Transportation and economic impact of covid lockdown in large Asian cities https://www.straitstimes.com/multimedia/graphics/2020/05/covid-asia-standstill/index.html?shell19:21
_abc_Manila traffic is absolutely insane. (was before covid)19:23
_abc_pyna: I've read catch 22 and more things like that but your house of god suggestion looks like it's going on my to-read list. Especially because of rule 13 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_House_of_God19:34
_abc_And I have (had) doctors in the family, I can emphatize with a lot of what is written there more than you can imagine.19:34
pynaits real good. very funny and extremely not funny simulaneously19:35
pynadef good if you know doctors cause you can ask them about house of god vocab, like LOLNAD and GOMER19:35
pynathere19:35
pyna's a sequel that is less funny and enjoyable 19:36
_abc_It's explained at the bottom of the page.19:37
_abc_Glossary.19:37
pynaah yeah, sry, didnt click19:38
pynaGOMERS were the ones that nursing homes would figure out how to stick you with19:39
_abc_Apparently it inspired a lot of dialogue in Scrubs and there's a film version of sorts which may or may not float on youtube.19:40
pynaoh man no way a film version isnt awful19:41
_abc_Depends. Shorts can be very good sometimes. I love the scifi shorts by D.U.S.T. on youtube19:41
pynaanother medical book that really hit me was by a nurse and parts about the maternity ward, where they used scopolamine, were pretty harrowing. cant remember the specific book. they really did some messed up shit not so long ago19:42
_abc_And yep it's on. Try search house of god film on yt19:43
_abc_There's also a band or two and so on with the same name so film is important19:43
pynahuh TTR isnt in the wikipedia list, that's the best one19:45
_abc_I think I have non-covid. There is a persistent smell of cooking creeping into my room and it's not from outside and not from inside (corridor). Damn :) Makes me hungry.19:45
pynatattoo/tooth ratio: the more tattoos and the fewr teeth, the more indesctructible the patient19:45
_abc_hehe19:46
pynathis is afaik, trauma gospel to this day19:46
_abc_A privacy reminder from YouTube, a Google company19:48
_abc_RO19:48
_abc_https://youtu.be/bQxuNhwg6uk?t=1309 I meant this pyna 19:48
pynaok im in for this movie19:51
_abc_:)19:54
_abc_someone put the whole movie up. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPllfH9YREA19:54
BrainstormUpdates for South Africa: +2594 cases (now 50879), +82 deaths (now 1080) since 22 hours ago — Ghana: +272 cases (now 9910), +4 deaths (now 48) since a day ago — United Arab Emirates: +568 cases (now 39376), +5 deaths (now 281) since a day ago — New York, US: +630 cases (now 399458), +60 deaths (now 30502) since 17 hours ago20:50
BrainstormUpdates for South Carolina, US: +514 cases (now 14800), +11 deaths (now 557) since a day ago — Tennessee, US: +563 cases (now 26944), +3 deaths (now 421) since a day ago — US: +4205 cases (now 2.0 million), +110 deaths (now 112888) since an hour ago — Georgia (US), US: +599 cases (now 52497), +28 deaths (now 2208) since 23 hours ago22:05

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