libera/##covid-19/ Thursday, 2020-06-11

BrainstormUpdates for Argentina: +1226 cases (now 25987), +18 deaths (now 735) since 23 hours ago — Brazil: +24855 cases (now 772416), +979 deaths (now 39680) since 6 hours ago — World: +29106 cases (now 7.5 million), +1099 deaths (now 418153) since an hour ago — Colombia: +1604 cases (now 43682), +60 deaths (now 1433) since a day ago01:09
BrainstormUpdates for Botswana: +6 cases (now 48) since 2 days ago — Brazil: +2768 cases (now 775184), +117 deaths (now 39797) since an hour ago — California, US: +465 cases (now 139891), +11 deaths (now 4869) since an hour ago — New Hampshire, US: +46 cases (now 5178), +7 deaths (now 301) since a day ago02:09
BrainstormUpdates for Panama: +656 cases (now 17889), +10 deaths (now 413) since a day ago — US: +808 cases (now 2.1 million), +1 deaths (now 115130) since 35 minutes ago — World: +1466 cases (now 7.5 million), +11 deaths (now 418305) since 35 minutes ago — California, US: +40 cases (now 139931), +1 deaths (now 4870) since 35 minutes ago02:39
CoronaBot04/r/covid19: Patients with immune-mediated inflammatory diseases receiving cytokine inhibitors have low prevalence of SARS-CoV-2 infection (82 votes) | https://redd.it/h0lcpf02:53
BrainstormUpdates for Mexico: +4883 cases (now 129184), +708 deaths (now 15357) since a day ago — Guatemala: +355 cases (now 8221), +27 deaths (now 316) since a day ago — World: +5413 cases (now 7.5 million), +735 deaths (now 419040) since 52 minutes ago — Venezuela: +106 cases (now 2738) since a day ago03:24
LjL%cases arizona04:18
BrainstormLjL: In Arizona, US, there have been 29852 confirmed cases (0.4% of the population) and 1095 deaths (3.7% of cases) as of 9 hours ago. 409174 tests were performed (7.3% positive). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=US for time series data.04:18
LjL%cases lombardy04:18
BrainstormLjL: In Lombardy, Italy, there have been 90389 confirmed cases (0.9% of the population) and 16302 deaths (18.0% of cases) as of a day ago. 196302 tests were performed (46.0% positive). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=Lombardy for time series data.04:18
LjLit says in some news that arizona hospitals are at over 80% capacity and elective surgery may stop04:18
LjLbut the data don't look so horrendously bad...?04:19
Jigsy%cases UK05:13
BrainstormJigsy: In United Kingdom, there have been 290143 confirmed cases (0.4% of the population) and 41128 deaths (14.2% of cases) as of 10 hours ago. 5.9 million tests were performed (4.9% positive). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=United%20Kingdom for time series data.05:13
PlanckWalkHospitals are usually running over 80% capacity in normal times.05:34
pynaLjL: i forgot to +1 you when i noticed the bot no longer makes my dumb client set up sad05:37
CoronaBot04/r/covid19: Vitamin D deficiency and co-morbidities in COVID-19 patients – A fatal relationship? (80 votes) | https://redd.it/h0jwnc05:43
BrainstormUpdates for Pakistan: +5834 cases (now 119536), +101 deaths (now 2356) since a day ago — Shanghai, China: +6 cases (now 684) since 2 days ago — Bolivia: +637 cases (now 15281), +25 deaths (now 512) since a day ago — Honduras: +425 cases (now 7360), +19 deaths (now 290) since a day ago06:10
CoronaBot04/r/coronavirus: Nearly half of Americans still think worst of coronavirus pandemic is ahead (10002 votes) | https://redd.it/h0fq0r08:14
CoronaBot04/r/coronavirus: 'It's serious': South Carolina sees worst spike in COVID-19 cases since pandemic began (10199 votes) | https://redd.it/h0p2bs08:38
xionbox[m]1lol who could have guessed that?08:39
xionbox[m]1Reopening without valid testing, any contact tracing app, or stringent requirements for wearing masks08:39
xionbox[m]1Boy I sure am surprised /s08:39
DocScrutinizer05happy leichnam gefroehne08:49
BrainstormUpdates for Armenia: +566 cases (now 14669), +18 deaths (now 245) since 23 hours ago — Bahrain: +467 cases (now 16667), +1 deaths (now 32) since 10 hours ago — Afghanistan: +748 cases (now 22890), +21 deaths (now 426) since 23 hours ago — Iowa, US: +107 cases (now 22733), +7 deaths (now 638) since 8 hours ago09:05
BrainstormUpdates for Oman: +1067 cases (now 19954), +5 deaths (now 89) since 23 hours ago — Russia: +8779 cases (now 502436), +174 deaths (now 6532) since a day ago — Bangladesh: +3187 cases (now 78052), +37 deaths (now 1049) since a day ago — World: +15589 cases (now 7.5 million), +283 deaths (now 419558) since 2 hours ago11:20
BrainstormUpdates for Albania: +44 cases (now 1385), +1 deaths (now 35) since a day ago — India: +524 cases (now 287679), +8 deaths (now 8115) since 13 hours ago — World: +568 cases (now 7.5 million), +9 deaths (now 419567) since 23 minutes ago11:36
CoronaBot04/r/covid19: Danish vaccine against coronavirus passes tests in mice (82 votes) | https://redd.it/h0uvp112:58
BrainstormUpdates for Ethiopia: +164 cases (now 2670), +5 deaths (now 40) since a day ago — Kuwait: +609 cases (now 34432), +4 deaths (now 279) since a day ago — Belarus: +750 cases (now 51816), +5 deaths (now 293) since 23 hours ago — Iran: +2218 cases (now 180156), +78 deaths (now 8584) since 23 hours ago14:06
BrainstormUpdates for Saudi Arabia: +3733 cases (now 116021), +38 deaths (now 857) since a day ago — Qatar: +1476 cases (now 75071), +3 deaths (now 69) since a day ago — Sweden: +1474 cases (now 48288), +19 deaths (now 4814) since a day ago — Virginia, US: +470 cases (now 52647), +6 deaths (now 1520) since 23 hours ago15:06
Jigsy%cases UK15:58
BrainstormJigsy: In United Kingdom, there have been 291409 confirmed cases (0.4% of the population) and 41279 deaths (14.2% of cases) as of 11 minutes ago. 5.9 million tests were performed (5.0% positive). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=United%20Kingdom for time series data.15:58
JigsyYou know, I had a dream last night where I caught COVID-19 off somebody.15:58
BrainstormUpdates for Moldova: +406 cases (now 10727), +4 deaths (now 375) since a day ago — United Kingdom: +1266 cases (now 291409), +151 deaths (now 41279) since 21 hours ago — Azerbaijan: +352 cases (now 8882), +6 deaths (now 108) since 22 hours ago — World: +5027 cases (now 7.5 million), +197 deaths (now 419998) since an hour ago16:21
BrainstormUpdates for Cabo Verde: +41 cases (now 657) since 5 hours ago — India: +545 cases (now 290481), +63 deaths (now 8206) since 18 minutes ago — World: +715 cases (now 7.5 million), +94 deaths (now 420092) since 18 minutes ago — US: +94 cases (now 2.1 million), +31 deaths (now 115197) since 18 minutes ago16:36
BrainstormUpdates for Florida, US: +1698 cases (now 69069), +45 deaths (now 2848) since 20 hours ago — US: +1740 cases (now 2.1 million), +45 deaths (now 115242) since 17 minutes ago — Canada: +203 cases (now 97328), +12 deaths (now 7972) since 14 hours ago — World: +2589 cases (now 7.5 million), +68 deaths (now 420160) since 18 minutes ago16:52
BrainstormUpdates for Alabama, US: +856 cases (now 22845), +11 deaths (now 755) since 23 hours ago — US: +988 cases (now 2.1 million), +13 deaths (now 115255) since 35 minutes ago — North Carolina, US: +132 cases (now 38703), +1 deaths (now 1093) since 48 minutes ago — World: +988 cases (now 7.5 million), +13 deaths (now 420173) since 35 minutes ago17:22
CoronaBot04/r/coronavirus: Arizona hospitals at 83% capacity, elective surgery may stop (10001 votes) | https://redd.it/h0kabj17:29
BrainstormUpdates for Iraq: +1261 cases (now 16675), +31 deaths (now 457) since a day ago — Chile: +5596 cases (now 154092), +173 deaths (now 2648) since 23 hours ago — India: +6520 cases (now 297001), +115 deaths (now 8321) since an hour ago — World: +13377 cases (now 7.6 million), +319 deaths (now 420492) since 20 minutes ago17:37
BrainstormUpdates for Jordan: +27 cases (now 890) since a day ago — Rhode Island, US: +106 cases (now 15862), +11 deaths (now 823) since 23 hours ago — US: +106 cases (now 2.1 million), +11 deaths (now 115266) since 35 minutes ago — World: +156 cases (now 7.6 million), +11 deaths (now 420503) since 21 minutes ago17:52
bogsuvsomeone talk with me on https://meet.google.com/wfm-mvyy-tud18:49
bin_bashwhat18:49
bogsuv i want to see how Google Meets work18:50
bin_bashit works like google hangouts18:51
BrainstormUpdates for Eswatini: +51 cases (now 449) since 23 hours ago — Brazil: +11908 cases (now 787489), +473 deaths (now 40276) since 4 hours ago — Arizona, US: +1412 cases (now 31264), +32 deaths (now 1127) since a day ago — Minnesota, US: +447 cases (now 29316), +13 deaths (now 1280) since a day ago18:52
nixonixwhat was the site to get mortality numbers for bergamo? weekly or so would be nice19:53
nixonixand the town of bergamo19:54
CoronaBot04/r/coronavirus: Doctors in Chicago have performed a double lung transplant on a young woman whose lungs were damaged by COVID-19. Doctors waited six weeks for her body to clear the virus before considering a transplant. (10228 votes) | https://redd.it/h0xiqr19:54
nixonixistat.it?19:56
LjLnixonix, i would be surprised if ISTAT had things up to date. personally i don't know, i've seen mortality data on euromomo and on a couple of articles but they weren't specific to bergamo, and then there was an article about *one* town in the bergamo province with a spike in mortality20:00
LjLnixonix, as far as a mayor just complained today, we don't even have per-province COVID deaths data in Lombardy20:00
LjLanyway i assume you know, since you ask this, that today we have a spike in Lombardy case counts20:00
LjL~250 in Lombardy alone, iirc yesterday it was less than that nationally20:01
nixonixno, i just read about those non-representative sample antibody tests (those were medial personnel and persons with close contacts to infected only). but got the estimate, that instead of 57% bergamo city could have perhaps around 45% infected, and wanted to see what the IFR would look like using it20:03
nixonixhttps://old.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/gj6qzg/excess_mortality_in_italy_march_2020/20:05
nixonixtheres a map for areas. that 567% excess mortality for march is for bergamo city only, not county?20:06
nixonixlooks pretty big area in the picture20:06
nixonixand bergamo region has like over 200 sub-regions i think20:07
nixonixanyways, id like to find excess mortality till at least middle april, or as late as the large numbers of excess deaths happened20:08
nixonix"A more likely figure was 45 per cent, Mr Gori told foreign journalists yesterday. The estimate was based on 35 per cent of the population reporting symptoms to the local health authorities and a further 10 per cent being assumed to be" - and the rest is behing paywall20:12
LjLnixonix, that is the province ("county")20:15
LjLnixonix, i remember seeing that map/thread, but i also remember i didn't understand where they got the data from20:15
LjLnixonix, 35 or 45 of the *whole population* probably had it? at least that should mean they do have herd immunity there by now, if that's true...20:16
nixonixso the antibody survey was the whole bergamo county? articles usually dont separate it, although this, if correct, does "Blood tests in the hard-hit northern province of Bergamo showed that more than half of residents had Covid-19 antibodies"20:16
LjLnixonix, not seen that antibody study, but i'd guess it's the province20:17
nixonixthen we cant know if they collected more samples from high infected areas, so the result doesnt tell much. but do you think Gori meant bergamo region or county with that estimate?20:17
nixonixregion or city*20:17
nixonixhttps://www.corriere.it/salute/20_giugno_08/test-sierologici-bergamo-positivo-57percento-pazienti-30b159ec-a9a6-11ea-b9d7-2bd646fda8c5.shtml20:18
LjLnixonix, province, it's called province, that is important because region also exists, but the region is Lombardy. i have no idea what Gori meant, but he is the mayor of the city alone20:18
LjLnixonix, that is in the province, because it mentions placenames that definitely aren't Bergamo city in the article20:19
LjL%tr <it di Alzano, Nembro e Albino e, più in generale, della Bassa Valle Seriana, territori che sono stati colpiti dal coronavirus in modo maggiore rispetto ad altre zone della provincia bergamasca e della Lombardia20:19
BrainstormLjL, Italian to English: of Alzano, Nembro and Albino and, more generally, of the Lower Seriana Valley, territories that have been affected by the coronavirus more than other areas of the Bergamo province and Lombardy (MyMemory, Google) [... want %more?]20:19
nixonixso they make survey for region, but gori meant with his comment the city.. confusing20:19
LjLnixonix, i don't what he *meant*, i just said he's the city's mayor, he could have meant the province anyway20:20
nixonixyeah. so much uncertanty, maybe i try to find more information at the time when we get those mortality numbers april too. like next year perhaps20:21
LjLnixonix, that article is also otherwise confusing20:21
LjLit says20:21
LjL%tr <it Per quanto riguarda la «fetta» di cittadini esaminati, il direttore generale di Ats Bergamo Massimo Giupponi ha sottolineato che si tratta in larghissima parte di persone « nella maggior parte dei casi già in quarantena fiduciaria20:21
BrainstormLjL, Italian to English: As for the "slice" of citizens examined, the director general of Ats Bergamo Massimo Giupponi stressed that it is a very large part of people "in most cases already in trust quarantine (MyMemory, Google) [... want %more?]20:21
LjLnixonix, it's saying that they examined mostly citizens who are already quarantined?! of course the percentage is high then, but that's not a representative sample at all20:22
LjLnixonix, i would look at the actual study, if and when one is released20:22
LjLmedia are useless, and politicians... well20:22
nixonixyeah. but i think he should have a picture for his town now, expert estimations. so if we knew what he meant that could be used for some rough idea of IFR there20:23
nixonixbut bureaucracy is doing fine still20:23
LjLnixonix, bureaucracy has the best immune system. did you know that the Great National Study of antibodies in 150k people using a carefully determined ISTAT sample... do not include people <14?20:24
LjLwe know it's important to figure out what's happening in children20:24
LjLbut 14 is the age limit for informed consent, and somehow we can make laws that override our basic freedoms (like movement), but we cannot make a law that says that this time, parents can decide for their <14 children20:25
nixonixhttps://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/276652420:25
nixonix%title20:25
Brainstormnixonix, the URL could not be loaded 20:25
nixonixNasal Gene Expression of Angiotensin-Converting Enzyme 2 in Children and Adults20:26
LjL%title https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/276652421:19
BrainstormLjL: From jamanetwork.com: Nasal Gene Expression of Angiotensin-Converting Enzyme 2 in Children and Adults | Infectious Diseases | JAMA | JAMA Network21:19
LjLstupid useragent nonsense making me waste time21:19
BrainstormUpdates for Georgia (US), US: +993 cases (now 54973), +46 deaths (now 2375) since 23 hours ago — Utah, US: +388 cases (now 13252), +3 deaths (now 131) since 23 hours ago — US: +5223 cases (now 2.1 million), +282 deaths (now 115675) since 2 hours ago — Louisiana, US: +442 cases (now 44472), +18 deaths (now 2992) since a day ago21:22
BrainstormUpdates for Angola: +5 cases (now 118), +1 deaths (now 5) since a day ago — Illinois, US: +766 cases (now 130603), +90 deaths (now 6185) since 23 hours ago — California, US: +635 cases (now 140566), +19 deaths (now 4889) since 19 hours ago — US: +1401 cases (now 2.1 million), +109 deaths (now 115784) since 18 minutes ago21:37
BrainstormUpdates for Oregon, US: +177 cases (now 5237), +2 deaths (now 171) since a day ago — Mauritania: +156 cases (now 1439), +3 deaths (now 74) since a day ago — Rwanda: +18 cases (now 494) since 22 hours ago — US: +195 cases (now 2.1 million), +2 deaths (now 115786) since 21 minutes ago21:52
Jigsy%cases21:53
BrainstormJigsy: In World, there have been 7.6 million confirmed cases (0.1% of the population) and 421858 deaths (5.6% of cases) as of 6 minutes ago. 118.3 million tests were performed (6.4% positive). Fatality can be broadly expected to lie between 1.9% (assuming deaths/cases with ⅔ undetected), and less than 10.4% (considering only deaths and recoveries). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=World for time series data.21:54
BrainstormUpdates for Ivory Coast: +223 cases (now 4404) since 22 hours ago — World: +422 cases (now 7.6 million), +5 deaths (now 421863) since 20 minutes ago — Iowa, US: +41 cases (now 22938) since 48 minutes ago — Czechia: +29 cases (now 9855) since 10 hours ago22:07
BrainstormUpdates for South Carolina, US: +682 cases (now 16441), +13 deaths (now 588) since 23 hours ago — US: +691 cases (now 2.1 million), +25 deaths (now 115811) since 18 minutes ago — Germany: +73 cases (now 186721), +1 deaths (now 8850) since an hour ago — World: +764 cases (now 7.6 million), +26 deaths (now 421889) since 18 minutes ago22:22
CoronaBot04/r/covid19: Moderna Advances Late-Stage Development of its Vaccine (mRNA-1273) Against COVID-19 (80 votes) | https://redd.it/h14cf822:44
BrainstormUpdates for Syria: +12 cases (now 164) since a day ago — Massachusetts, US: +511 cases (now 104667), +38 deaths (now 7492) since a day ago — Texas, US: +814 cases (now 82763), +4 deaths (now 1930) since an hour ago — US: +2652 cases (now 2.1 million), +111 deaths (now 115922) since 49 minutes ago23:08
BrainstormUpdates for Wyoming, US: +29 cases (now 1009) since a day ago — Peru: +5965 cases (now 214788), +206 deaths (now 6109) since 23 hours ago — Brazil: +15339 cases (now 802828), +644 deaths (now 40920) since 4 hours ago — World: +21515 cases (now 7.6 million), +855 deaths (now 422936) since 19 minutes ago23:23

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