libera/##covid-19/ Tuesday, 2020-06-16

CoronaBot04/r/coronavirus: POTUS on coronavirus: 'If we stop testing right now, we'd have very few cases, if any' (10978 votes) | https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/502819-trump-on-coronavirus-if-we-stop-testing-right-now-wed-have-very-few-cases | https://redd.it/h9oulg02:15
LjLoooooookaaay02:17
LjLi'm sure he's been taken out of context02:18
pynait's pretty much the same with context02:20
pynahuh nice the beer delivery service i've been using for a couple months just sent me an email saying that starting today, they can deliver me beer02:26
LjLmaybe they've drunk too much of their own product02:26
LjLwait, their product is delivery, you can't drink delivery02:26
pynai order beer and popsicles from them02:27
CoronaBot04/r/covid19: What Might Go Wrong (81 votes) | https://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archives/2020/06/15/what-might-go-wrong | https://redd.it/h9nfyi03:51
CoronaBot04/r/covid19: Continuous hydroxychloroquine or colchicine therapy does not prevent infection with SARS-CoV-2: Insights from a large healthcare database analysis (85 votes) | https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1568997220301282 | https://redd.it/h9kukf04:27
CoronaBot04/r/covid19: Potent neutralizing antibodies from COVID-19 patients define multiple targets of vulnerability (81 votes) | https://science.sciencemag.org/content/early/2020/06/15/science.abc5902 | https://redd.it/h9mpgf04:57
CoronaBot04/r/covid19: Metformin Treatment Was Associated with Decreased Mortality in COVID-19 Patients with Diabetes in a Retrospective Analysis (83 votes) | https://www.ajtmh.org/content/journals/10.4269/ajtmh.20-0375 | https://redd.it/h9us9t06:16
Mr_Pinkhttps://www.redcrossblood.org/donate-blood/dlp/covid-19-antibody-testing.html07:54
Mr_PinkThe Red Cross is offering free antibody tests of all blood donations at least through the summer.07:55
CoronaBot04/r/coronavirus: 'We're heroes, too:' Hospital janitors risk lives to stop spread of COVID-19 (10061 votes) | https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/06/12/essential-workers-include-hospital-custodians-though-often-forgotten/5278789002/ | https://redd.it/h9olka10:48
ubLIXIIF (International Institute of Forecasters) sets up back and forth between Ioannidis and Taleb, on the question of COVID-19 forecasting failures: https://forecasters.org/blog/2020/06/14/covid-19-ioannidis-vs-taleb/14:29
CoronaBot04/r/covid19: Low-cost dexamethasone reduces death by up to one third in hospitalised patients with severe respiratory complications of COVID-19 (91 votes) | https://www.recoverytrial.net/files/recovery_dexamethasone_statement_160620_final.pdf | https://redd.it/ha2p5614:55
LjLChief investigator Prof Peter Horby said: "This is the only drug so far that has been shown to reduce mortality - and it reduces it significantly. It's a major breakthrough."16:46
LjLbut also16:47
LjLIt cut the risk of death by a third for patients on ventilators. For those on oxygen, it cut deaths by a fifth.16:47
LjLwe're scraping the bottom of the barrel aren't we16:47
dzho@Ljl hydroxychloroquine was scraping the bottom of the barrel. 18:05
dzhodexamethasone, if it holds up to peer review and further use would be a step up from remdesivir18:07
Jigsy%cases UK18:21
BrainstormUpdates for Cordoba, Colombia: +26 cases (now 279), +3 deaths (now 16) since a day ago — Sergipe, Brazil: +1707 cases (now 15675), +22 deaths (now 352) since a day ago — Goias, Brazil: +2238 cases (now 10182), +15 deaths (now 226) since a day ago — Florida, US: +2783 cases (now 80109), +55 deaths (now 2996) since 22 hours ago18:21
BrainstormJigsy: In United Kingdom, there have been 298136 confirmed cases (0.4% of the population) and 41969 deaths (14.1% of cases) as of a minute ago. 7.0 million tests were performed (4.3% positive). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=United%20Kingdom for time series data.18:21
CoronaBot04/r/covid19: Sinovac Announces Positive Preliminary Results of Phase I/II Clinical Trials for Inactivated Vaccine Candidate Against COVID-19 (80 votes) | http://www.sinovac.com/?optionid=754&auto_id=904 | https://redd.it/ha1ya218:25
CoronaBot04/r/coronavirus: Cheap steroid cuts death rates significantly for seriously ill Covid-19 patients in intensive care, drug trial finds (10227 votes) | https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-53061281?at_custom3=%40BBCBreaking&at_custom1=%5Bpost+type%5D&at_custom2=twitter&at_custom4=1377F182-AFC9-11EA-923C-49043A982C1E&at_campaign=64&at_medium=custom7 | https://redd.it/ha2o6p18:31
LjLdzho, was hydroxychloroquine scraping the bottom of the barrel, or speculating with stocks?18:37
LjLbecause i had the feeling for "some people" it was the latter18:37
LjLstocks as in company shares18:38
LjLnot as in hydroetc stock18:38
dzhowhy not both?18:51
dzhobut yeah if you have to wait until your on a vent to get a benefit, yuck18:52
dzhoI guess it says it is some small help to people on oxygen18:53
ArsaneritI find it interesting how some of the critics of the new German corona warning app have no problem using fitness tracking applications that are far more privacy-invasive.19:16
LjLArsanerit, i use and try to advertise http://gadgetbridge.org/ which is a fully offline app with support for a few fitness bands (and smartwatches)19:50
LjLi'm sure you'll always find "some" that behave inconsistently, and in fact i'm going to bet that we all behave incosistently in some ways19:51
LjLbut i'm also sure you'll find many people who criticize Germany's app (or other contact tracing apps for that matter) are the same people who use a de-Googled Android, get all or most of their apps from F-Droid, use free software fitness trackers, and so on19:52
LjLof course, the new versions of Huami bands, which are the brand best supported by Gadgetbridge, come with encrypted communications between band/watch and phone, precisely because they don't want apps like Gadgetbridge to be able to be used instead of the official, data-eating app19:53
LjLso we'd want free hardware too eventually, can't rely on inexpensive hardware where most of the money is made by selling your data19:54
LjLbut still, for now i can, and so i do19:54
ArsaneritLjL: I don't use any fitness applications.  I use a Garmin handheld GPS device, which I'm pretty sure is offline, as it has no transmitting antenna :)21:56
LjLcool, although my point is unchanged, it is possible to use fitness trackers without "applications that are far more privacy-invasive", and i suspect it is done by many of those who object to the invasiveness of contact tracing applications (though i obviously have no hard data on this, i doubt anyone does or it has been studied at all)21:58

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