libera/##covid-19/ Wednesday, 2020-06-17

B4Cko/03:55
stinkpotwow i think i've taken dexamethasone before04:01
B4Ckwhat's this stinkpot ?04:19
stinkpotsome asthma drug 04:19
stinkpota steroid04:19
B4Ckoh okay04:21
ryoumait is used in the dexamethason suppression test i think04:27
ryoumae04:28
ryoumaalso04:28
bin_bashwow that's annoying04:43
ryoumaand inscrutable04:44
ryoumafrom this here luddite irc04:44
bin_bashirc > *04:47
ubLIXwhat even was that when it was posted, a screenshot?04:54
ryoumait looks like we have been twitterized04:57
ryoumamy own comment was logged all over some chat network04:57
ryoumathat i ahve no idea about04:58
CoronaBot04/r/covid19: World first coronavirus treatment approved for NHS use by government (81 votes) | https://www.gov.uk/government/news/world-first-coronavirus-treatment-approved-for-nhs-use-by-government | https://redd.it/hagisk05:01
ryoumathe uk gov sure likes to praise itself05:04
LjLlawrencemaurice[, just so i know, the hell you doing?05:35
CoronaBot04/r/coronavirus: Harvard expert: "We may be done with the pandemic, but the pandemic is not done with us" (10061 votes) | https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/coronavirus-pandemic-06-16-20-intl/h_1e5e0b093994071774a46a37a020cbd4 | https://redd.it/had6dy05:37
lawrencemaurice[More accurate information than Trumps been giving you. South Korea is the only country that has been able to contain COVID-19. And seems to have the best research on it.06:58
tinwhiskersSouth Korea isn't the only country to contain it07:01
tinwhiskersin fact, they are still getting quite a lot of cases, very consistently.07:02
tinwhiskersand for the record, many of us are not in the US so Trump isn't giving us any info. he only gives us comedy.07:03
ryoumafor some definition thereof07:09
ryoumathese authors seem to think probiotics could be useful for prevention (didn't cehck references on their claim).  what would be a reasonable guess at a probiotic or probiotic mix for preventing covid if you are exposed to SARS-CoV-2?  https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7139252/07:16
tinwhiskersit won't07:23
tinwhiskershowever, it may help people who have poor nutrition and are therefore more prone to infection.07:25
swift110yeah true07:41
ryoumawhat supplements do you think would be useful?  assume a very limited diet (few veg) but not one of processed foods.07:43
Haley[mt][m]!cases marocco14:01
CovBot1My data doesn't seem to include marocco. It might be under a different name, data on it might not be available or there could even be no cases. You may have more luck if you try a less specific location, like the country it's in. 14:01
CovBot1If you think I should have data on it you can open an issue at https://github.com/pwr22/covbot/issues and Peter will take a look.14:01
Haley[mt][m]!cases morocco14:02
CovBot1In Morocco there have been a total of 8,985 cases as of 2020-06-17 11:46:00 UTC. Of these 813 (9.0%) are still sick or may have recovered without being recorded, 7,960 (88.6%) have definitely recovered and 212 (2.4%) have died.14:02
pwr22Looks like steroids have been confirmed as helping in the bad cases14:49
pwr22Makes me less worried about my dad as I know he has access to them for when he gets any chest problem in general14:49
flux1you know what's going to get hoarded next :P15:15
bin_bashtinwhiskers: fwiw for many of us in the US as well lol (re: trump & comedy)15:46
ottavioSo, corona is finished, right? Can we go back partying ourselves to death as we used to?15:54
bin_bashno15:55
ottavioSo when is the second wave coming? September, October?15:57
jacklswnow 2nd wave in beijing15:58
jacklswso yeah. around sept or oct worldwide15:58
ottaviojacklsw: do you think the one in China is actually the 2nd wave or jus a resurgence of the 1st one? Does the 2nd wave come with mutations?15:59
Jigsy%cases UK16:06
BrainstormieUpdates for Irkutsk, Russia: +498 cases (now 4653), +4 deaths (now 24) since a day ago — Central Kalimantan, Indonesia: +150 cases (now 702), +9 deaths (now 38) since 4 days ago — French Guiana: +228 cases (now 1554), +2 deaths (now 5) since a day ago — Gorontalo, Indonesia: +65 cases (now 214), +1 deaths (now 8) since 4 days ago16:06
BrainstormieJigsy: In United Kingdom, there have been 298136 confirmed cases (0.4% of the population) and 41969 deaths (14.1% of cases) as of 21 hours ago. 7.0 million tests were performed (4.3% positive). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=United%20Kingdom for time series data.16:06
JigsyWhen did divorce become a thing in Japan?16:17
JigsyUh, wrong window.16:17
kreyrenCovid-19 caused a pine shortage in the USA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFCi20RgHxM17:24
kreyren(or so they say)17:24
spybertany excuse to raise prices, but I suppose it is possible.17:26
CoronaBot04/r/coronavirus: Arkansas sues televangelist Jim Bakker over false COVID 'cure' sales (10140 votes) | https://www.news-leader.com/story/news/local/missouri/2020/06/16/arkansas-sues-televangelist-jim-bakker-over-false-coronavirus-cure-sales/3202431001/ | https://redd.it/hamayp19:42
CoronaBot04/r/covid19: Dexamethasone for Coronavirus Infection (89 votes) | https://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archives/2020/06/17/dexamethasone-for-coronavirus-infection | https://redd.it/hatq5k21:01
LjL"we don’t have the real data on this yet. What we have is basically a press release, with the most impressive top-line numbers in it, and that makes interpretation and context a lot harder. We saw this with the initial remdesivir numbers, with Moderna’s human data on their vaccine, and all over the place during the hydroxychloroquine story. Under normal conditions this wouldn’t be acceptable – and this “new normal” shouldn’t 21:33
LjLbe different. Make your headlines when you release your data, folks."21:33
LjLtinwhiskers, "The people (a minority, but a loud one) ranting about how such masks are an infringement on their liberties can go to hell, in my considered view of the situation, and I only wish that they could do that without taking other innocent people with them. Of course, some of those same never-wearing-a-mask people are also publicly swearing never to take a vaccine. Idiots. Loud, dangerous idiots who are endangering all our lives and our livelihoods."21:44
LjLDerek Lowe is in a bad mood21:44
tinwhiskerslol21:45
stinkpotnice21:47
nixonixwe are not so loud. when sober21:52
LjLtinwhiskers, nixonix: someone asked "what's your evidence for face masks?" and he gave these links https://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archives/2020/06/17/dexamethasone-for-coronavirus-infection#comment-322187 which may be useful to have (although i suspect you've seen them already), but i'm especially concerned about the comment in response to that one, where it asks to look at criticism to the PNAS paper. now, i am in favor of masks, but when i saw 21:54
LjLthat study, it seemed very tenuous to me... "hey look, on day X they started telling people to wear masks, and on the same day cases started going down" - seriously? i ranted about it a bit before21:54
LjLso, apparently there are requests to retract that paper21:54
LjLbased on more or less the same perplexities i had21:54
Girlyany real people here? 22:01
ThomCat[m]I'm a real boy22:13
CoronaBot04/r/coronavirus: 'Pandemic pricing' is here. Rents are dropping across the US (10266 votes) | https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/16/success/rents-are-dropping-us-cities-coronavirus/index.html | https://redd.it/haro5k22:14
tinwhiskersLjL: yeah that sort of stuff probably does more harm than good22:15
CoronaBot04/r/covid19: Age-dependent effects in the transmission and control of COVID-19 epidemics (80 votes) | https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-020-0962-9 | https://redd.it/hav1lr22:38

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