| kreyren | Johannes_swe, See https://3g2upl4pq6kufc4m.onion/html?q=RevolutionIRC for soruce code | 00:02 |
|---|---|---|
| kreyren | oops | 00:02 |
| nixonix | 42% or so were asymptomatic in the small village of Vo, from seropositive cases. participation percentage was highish, 70% something | 00:02 |
| kreyren | this https://github.com/MCMrARM/revolution-irc | 00:02 |
| LjL | nixonix, yes and that percentage was confirmed (30%-something) by the study on blood donors in Milan, seen that one? | 00:03 |
| LjL | nixonix, but it's obviously not confirmed by the many antibody tests that say 10000% are asymptomatic :P but hey ho | 00:03 |
| JennyRN | https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/planning-scenarios.html looks like 20-50% bottom of this page, with no symptoms also being 50% less transmissable | 00:03 |
| tinwhiskers | heh | 00:03 |
| nixonix | i dont think i have seen. you have a link? | 00:03 |
| LjL | sure, it's on the list | 00:04 |
| LjL | nixonix, https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.05.11.20098442v2.full | 00:04 |
| stinkpot | https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-07-pandemic-pc-deaths.html | 00:04 |
| nixonix | found | 00:04 |
| stinkpot | looks like the US is counting covid deaths pretty well | 00:05 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health: US reports second-highest day of new coronavirus cases as Arizona, California set new records: The U.S. reported more than 44,700 coronavirus cases on Tuesday, the second-highest daily increase, according to Johns Hopkins University data. → https://is.gd/UYeCVX | 00:05 |
| LjL | nixonix, waiiiit wrong study | 00:05 |
| tinwhiskers | stinkpot: if by pretty well they're missing about 30% then yeah | 00:05 |
| LjL | nixonix, i mean it's still interesting to read, but it doesn't claim what i claimed it claims | 00:05 |
| JennyRN | 30% of Arizona's tested are + ? | 00:05 |
| Johannes_swe | kreyren, oh its foss and on f-droid, perfecto, thanks again | 00:05 |
| nixonix | found at specops page that same | 00:06 |
| kreyren | Johannes_swe, ye and has an updated UI and works pretty well at least on my end | 00:06 |
| LjL | nixonix, i was thinking of this one instead https://arxiv.org/abs/2006.08471 | 00:06 |
| tinwhiskers | JennyRN: if that's a question in response to my comment, no. | 00:06 |
| JennyRN | 'excess deaths' | 00:06 |
| tinwhiskers | right | 00:06 |
| LjL | nixonix, they've tried to basically create a random sample by looking at (positive) *contacts* of known-infected people, instead of the infected people themselves (which are obviously biased due to testing) | 00:06 |
| stinkpot | lol yeah tinwhiskers that's close enough for gubment work | 00:07 |
| tinwhiskers | :-) | 00:07 |
| JennyRN | tinwhiskers: 30% was coincidence | 00:07 |
| tinwhiskers | JennyRN: ah. ok. | 00:07 |
| nixonix | 73.9% of all infected individuals aged less than 60 years did not develop symptoms (95% confidence interval: 71.8-75.9%). The risk of symptoms increased with age. | 00:07 |
| nixonix | hmm, thats high | 00:08 |
| LjL | nixonix, but it's <60yo, i don't know why they don't also include the *overall* percentage of asymptomatics in the abstract | 00:09 |
| LjL | nixonix, i think it was 37% because that's what i wrote on my page, but it must be buried somewhere in the study | 00:09 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Colombia: +4163 cases (now 102009), +94 deaths (now 3470) since 17 hours ago — Brazil: +21840 cases (now 1.4 million), +438 deaths (now 60632) since 5 hours ago — South Carolina, US: +1520 cases (now 37919), +27 deaths (now 766) since a day ago — Texas, US: +3519 cases (now 171458), +20 deaths (now 2519) since an hour ago | 00:09 |
| tinwhiskers | You gotta give India credit for maintaining one of the most beautiful exponential curves of anyone (https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=India) | 00:10 |
| LjL | nixonix, okay i'm actually just confused now. look at the table (table 1) on page 5 | 00:11 |
| LjL | it would seem that in total, 69% were asymptomatic, if i can read | 00:12 |
| LjL | but i don't know where i previously got the 37% :\ | 00:12 |
| stinkpot | tinwhiskers: now a new swine flu is gestating. scary stuff | 00:12 |
| tinwhiskers | stinkpot: I see that as sensationalism | 00:12 |
| tinwhiskers | (from the media, that is) | 00:13 |
| LjL | to be fair, maybe i'm not an idiot and the preprint was simply modified since i last looked | 00:13 |
| kreyren | Created https://github.com/Kreyren/covid19-mosquitos any relevant information is welcomed | 00:13 |
| nixonix | another study perhaps had that 37%? | 00:14 |
| stinkpot | you shouldn't see it like that tinwhiskers | 00:14 |
| LjL | nixonix, maybe but i take the 37% (actually 36.1%, whatever) from what i wrote at https://covid19.specops.network/#science last entry | 00:15 |
| stinkpot | nice plot btw tinwhiskers. india is perfectly exponential | 00:15 |
| LjL | which is that study | 00:15 |
| LjL | clearly i messed up in some way but i'm not sure which | 00:15 |
| tinwhiskers | stinkpot: we get new variants of the flu viruses every year. We typically add 2-3 to the annual flu vaccine every year. This is nothing exceptional afaict. | 00:16 |
| LjL | nixonix, anyhow read both studies, they're both lombard and they're both things that i haven't seen done elsewhere in that way :P | 00:16 |
| tinwhiskers | it'll be news if people start getting sick from it | 00:16 |
| LjL | tinwhiskers, well what i read is it contains large amount of avian, which is potentially concerning, but i also presume it's sensationalism to bring it up now. but it's not like i followed flus in the past years so i don't know for sure. | 00:16 |
| stinkpot | sure okay but this one possesses more lethality than others | 00:16 |
| tinwhiskers | except people who are testing positive for it are not dying. | 00:17 |
| stinkpot | ok if ljl says it's sensational then i believe it | 00:17 |
| stinkpot | the article is just saying it has the genetics to be lethal but it still needs to configure itself more | 00:17 |
| tinwhiskers | yeah | 00:18 |
| stinkpot | it was a nice article tho to make ppl scared of not wearing a mask =) | 00:19 |
| tinwhiskers | surveillance is great, but there's probably thousands of viruses that pose a similar risk but their reporting was not highlighted so much by the media. | 00:19 |
| stinkpot | a little sensationalism never hurts | 00:19 |
| tinwhiskers | I guess :-) | 00:19 |
| nixonix | the oldes one in web.archive.org says "69.1% of all infected individuals aged less than 60 years did not develop symptoms" - so they have made some modifications (i cant get that as a pdf, just abstract). maybe they had it wrong way at some point, then corrected | 00:20 |
| nixonix | oldest* | 00:20 |
| stinkpot | altho most ppl brushed off the swine flu and made jokes about it so i'm not sure scaring ppl with another 'swine flu' is a good tactic | 00:20 |
| nixonix | so maybe that 20-80% depending on study is still the best answer... | 00:21 |
| tinwhiskers | at least if it does turn out to be bad it's not going to spread very quickly around the globe with all the current measures in place. | 00:21 |
| LjL | nixonix, uhm i was also trying to look at archive.org, but anyway i suspect very dodgy subtraction arithmetics from yours truly | 00:21 |
| LjL | nixonix, well, aside from my dodgy math, this comment about that study seems like it gives a reasonable ballpark https://www.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/hb2fio/probability_of_symptoms_and_critical_disease/fv6s5pe/ | 00:23 |
| LjL | i wouldn't say that choice of how to define "asymptomatic" is *too* conservative though | 00:24 |
| LjL | respiratory or fever... sure, now we also look at arcane things like loss of smell, but for much of the epidemic in Lombardy we didn't know about any of that | 00:24 |
| nixonix | ah ok, remembering things like "it must be 38+ celsius, or it aint a fever" | 00:25 |
| nixonix | then there might be things like if you ask symptoms from a person that is locked in the ship of death, he is likely to say "no, im fine" to possibly get out, if he just can talk | 00:26 |
| LjL | nixonix, that's more of a US thing i think (well, not *in celsius*), here the arbitrary fever limit the government has always pushed was 37.5°C. traditionally we consider anything above 37 a temperature, and 38 a serious fever, but anything about 37 is still not normal. i'm aware that in other countries these rather arbitrary limits are traditionally different. | 00:27 |
| nixonix | also some people can answer no to symptoms question, not to be suspected of moving outside home and spreading the virus knowingly | 00:27 |
| LjL | nixonix, possible. so overall the reddit person saying 65%-ish is an upper limit seems right to me | 00:28 |
| LjL | the "asymptomatic" defininition is arguably somewhat conservative, then some people may lean towards "nope, no symptoms" | 00:28 |
| nixonix | in finland in medical care it used to be 38 celsius as far as i know. not sure if changed recently | 00:28 |
| LjL | overall the paper puts an upper bound that is not, like, 95%, things such as some used to claim | 00:28 |
| LjL | nixonix, well currently by law in italy it's not legal to go out if you have <37.5°C so that particular number has a practical relevance | 00:29 |
| LjL | err, > of course | 00:29 |
| nixonix | they also have consider quality of peoples own thermometers, when not many people still have mercury meters | 00:29 |
| LjL | nixonix, electronic thermometers have the maddening habit of beeping *well* before they've actually reached the final equilibrium temperature | 00:30 |
| LjL | i just keep them 5 minutes no matter when they beep | 00:30 |
| LjL | which is usually after 40 seconds or so | 00:30 |
| LjL | nixonix, i think in this study, there shouldn't be the risk of people answering "no" even though they did have symptoms | 00:32 |
| LjL | nixonix, because they tested them anyway, so they only asked those who tested positive in the first place, and if you test positive, you're quarantined, symptoms or not | 00:32 |
| LjL | there's no gain by saying you don't have symptoms. also they say "The selected sample in our study consistsof individuals identified during contact tracing, which may not necessarily representthe general population.However,this design has the advantage of assessingsymptomsduring active tracing and monitoring of contacts, thereby reducing the possibility of recall bias for individuals identified as positive through serological surveys" | 00:33 |
| LjL | sorry for spacing, PDF side effects | 00:33 |
| Brainstorm | New from Ars Technica: Science: COVID-19 vaccine must protect 50% of people for approval, FDA says → https://is.gd/hi8EmI | 00:34 |
| nixonix | i was thinking that guiltiness aspect, if they say yes they have some mild symptoms, then they think they are going to be asked did you stay just home 2 weeks or not. even if they never asked in reality | 00:34 |
| LjL | hm | 00:34 |
| LjL | nixonix, i actually almost risked trouble at the dentist's because i was a bit too honest in answering the questionnaire at entry :P | 00:35 |
| LjL | i ticked yes to "fatigue" and "conjunctivitis" and... a third thing | 00:35 |
| LjL | i have episodes of fatigue weekly or so since well before covid, and i have some blepharitis or conjunctivitis or something that i had a couple of years ago too | 00:35 |
| LjL | strongly suspect not covid | 00:35 |
| LjL | but "no" would have been a lie | 00:36 |
| LjL | assistant looked at me weird and said "err... i'll ask the doctor", doctor made "pssh, let him in" gesture | 00:36 |
| nixonix | never admit to a doctor you ever drink more than two glasses/beers the same day. a bit exaggerating, but they have very low limits for risky alcohol habits | 00:37 |
| LjL | nixonix, well i drink one small glass of limoncello every night. honestly i would say it's "risky" simply due to the fact that when i don't have it, i feel i miss it, and take some lozenge or something instead. it's not necessarily about the amount | 00:38 |
| LjL | well for your liver, it is, but for whether it's a potentially dangerous habit, it's also how/why you approach it | 00:38 |
| LjL | but nuances are maybe a bit hard to assess | 00:39 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Ecuador: +1825 cases (now 58257), +49 deaths (now 4576) since a day ago — Kazakhstan: +18757 cases (now 41065) since 17 hours ago — California, US: +2417 cases (now 235742), +34 deaths (now 6152) since 34 minutes ago — World: +24011 cases (now 10.8 million), +88 deaths (now 518146) since 34 minutes ago | 00:39 |
| nixonix | the questioning nowdays goes something like how many times per year 6 shots or more, and there may be lower ones too, like 4 or more | 00:40 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Australia news: Coronavirus Australia live: 300,000 Victorians enter lockdown in 36 Melbourne hotspot suburbs – latest updates → https://is.gd/tVmDJ0 | 00:43 |
| LjL | nixonix, are there consequences to being determined at risk, aside from simply the fact that doctors will see you're considered at risk? | 00:44 |
| nixonix | i dont know, i guess it depends why they are doing that medical check. is it some profession that they want to weed out risky behaving, for a job, insurance or whatever. but i know questions like that with low tresholds for risky alcohol consumption have become common here | 00:47 |
| nixonix | and the change was especially for amounts consumed at once or the same day, when i think it used to be just like how often, per month or so | 00:47 |
| LjL | nixonix, maybe the thinking is that people will more readily admit to have drunk 20 shots "if it was just once" | 00:52 |
| nixonix | so if you only rarely drink a lot, just the normal 8-10 shots, a few times month, its going to look terrible in those new types of questinaries, especilly if you have to count them per year and put on paper (hmm, over 6 shots, that makes around 35 times per year) | 00:53 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: US news: California closes bars and indoor dining across state as Covid-19 cases surge – live → https://is.gd/eXxKjz | 00:53 |
| Synapsestorm | Warning: inactive Matrix users were kicked by ubLIX. Any failed tab completion may be attributed to those facts. | 00:53 |
| nixonix | they are reopening, then closing again, all the same time. so not good experimental data, which measures were efficient, and which were not necessary | 00:56 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health: US reports second-highest day of new coronavirus cases as Arizona, California set records: The U.S. reported more than 44,700 coronavirus cases on Tuesday, the second-highest daily increase, according to Johns Hopkins University data. → https://is.gd/UYeCVX | 01:03 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Nigeria: +790 cases (now 26484), +13 deaths (now 603) since 21 hours ago — Texas, US: +992 cases (now 173442), +10 deaths (now 2531) since 38 minutes ago — New Jersey, US: +252 cases (now 177227), +10 deaths (now 15213) since 2 hours ago — US: +1320 cases (now 2.8 million), +20 deaths (now 130756) since 38 minutes ago | 01:10 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Australia news: Coronavirus Australia live: 300,000 Victorians enter lockdown in 36 Melbourne hotspot suburbs – latest updates → https://is.gd/tVmDJ0 | 01:12 |
| CoronaBot | 04/r/coronavirus: 'No mask. No ride': Uber will require drivers and passengers to wear face masks indefinitely (10315 votes) | https://usatoday.com/story/money/2020/07/01/uber-require-face-masks-drivers-and-passengers-indefinitely/5354164002/ | https://redd.it/hjdgcl | 01:57 |
| CoronaBot | 04/r/covid19: Phase 1/2 Study to Describe the Safety and Immunogenicity of a COVID-19 RNA Vaccine Candidate (BNT162b1) in Adults 18 to 55 Years of Age: Interim Report (80 votes) | https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.06.30.20142570v1 | https://redd.it/hj9t0r | 01:57 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: US news: California closes bars and indoor dining across state as Covid-19 cases surge – live → https://is.gd/eXxKjz | 01:59 |
| LjL-Matrix | beeboop | 02:02 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health: Arizona reports record spike in new coronavirus cases and deaths ahead of Pence's visit: The Arizona Department of Health Services reported nearly 4,900 new coronavirus cases and 88 new deaths, a record single-day jump in both grim markers ahead of Vice President Mike Pence's visit to the state later in the day. → https://is.gd/0ecwNK | 02:18 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Congo: +295 cases (now 1382), +4 deaths (now 41) since 9 days ago — Panama: +913 cases (now 34463), +14 deaths (now 645) since 22 hours ago — Argentina: +2667 cases (now 67197), +41 deaths (now 1351) since 10 hours ago — Texas, US: +1549 cases (now 174991), +7 deaths (now 2538) since an hour ago | 02:24 |
| Brainstorm | New from Reddit (test): Covid2019: Great infographic with a general overview of Multi-System in Children [MIS-C] associated with SARScov2 infection → https://is.gd/uAsWJn | 02:27 |
| LjL | good grief, my covid.py is more commented out lines by now than lines that do anything | 02:27 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Rio Grande do Norte, Brazil: +7529 cases (now 57228), +152 deaths (now 1648) since 2 days ago — Atlantico, Colombia: +2531 cases (now 22777), +274 deaths (now 1162) since 3 days ago — Antioquia, Colombia: +585 cases (now 4232), +5 deaths (now 27) since 3 days ago — Sucre, Colombia: +306 cases (now 1153), +32 deaths (now 63) since 4 days ago | 02:35 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Australia news: Coronavirus Australia live updates: 300,000 in Victoria enter lockdown in 36 Melbourne hotspot suburbs → https://is.gd/tVmDJ0 | 02:46 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Coronavirus live news: New Zealand health minister quits, as WHO says Middle East at 'critical' point: David Clark resigns after controversy over handling of Covid-19; Middle East records 1m cases amid easing and return of tourists; California rolls back reopening of bars. Follow all the latest updates → https://is.gd/4W0ONB | 03:06 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Australia news: Coronavirus Australia live updates: Victoria records 77 new cases as 300,000 enter lockdown in Melbourne hotspot suburbs → https://is.gd/tVmDJ0 | 03:15 |
| CoronaBot | 04/r/covid19: COVID-19 Causes ‘Hyperactivity’ in Blood-Clotting Cells (83 votes) | https://healthcare.utah.edu/publicaffairs/news/2020/06/covid-blood-clots.php | https://redd.it/hjb9zn | 03:22 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Guatemala: +915 cases (now 19011), +44 deaths (now 817) since 23 hours ago — Mexico: +5681 cases (now 231770), +741 deaths (now 28510) since 23 hours ago — California, US: +1193 cases (now 238391), +1 deaths (now 6164) since an hour ago — Venezuela: +230 cases (now 6062), +3 deaths (now 54) since 23 hours ago | 03:35 |
| JennyRN | LjL: how about adding more progressive sources, or what sources are used? | 03:46 |
| LjL | JennyRN, i think i find it easier to answer the latter, since i don't know what you mean with the former | 03:48 |
| LjL | JennyRN, https://paste.ee/p/GP2o9 | 03:52 |
| LjL | the ones with * bypass keyword filtering | 03:53 |
| LjL | the keywords are in the bottom line | 03:53 |
| ryouma | pcr | 03:57 |
| ryouma | dexamethasone | 03:59 |
| ryouma | remdesivir | 03:59 |
| LjL | good. added. | 04:00 |
| ryouma | oxygen ppe respirator n95 aerosol | 04:00 |
| JennyRN | so brainstorm has 38 sources? | 04:02 |
| LjL | i didn't add oxygen and respirator because i think they may be too generic, i added airborne in addition to aerosol, and also (despite sigh) chloroquine | 04:02 |
| LjL | JennyRN, i haven't counted | 04:02 |
| JennyRN | the link shows 38 | 04:03 |
| LjL | okay then if you've counted them i guess it's 38 | 04:03 |
| ryouma | il-6 il-8 tnf-whatever "cytokine storm" | 04:05 |
| ryouma | long haulers | 04:05 |
| ryouma | post-covid reopening | 04:06 |
| ryouma | icu beds triage | 04:06 |
| LjL | ryouma, adding, but keep in mind that most of the articles do have "virus" or "covid" or something like that in the headline | 04:11 |
| JennyRN | https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/01/us/politics/coronavirus-us-embassy-saudi-arabia.html | 04:54 |
| ZoKs | %cases world | 04:57 |
| Brainstorm | ZoKs: In World, there have been 10.9 million confirmed cases (0.1% of the population) and 519267 deaths (4.8% of cases) as of 52 minutes ago. 254.0 million tests were performed (4.3% positive). Fatality can be broadly expected to lie between 0.2% (assuming testing prevalence) and less than 8.3% (considering only deaths and recoveries).. See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=World for time series data. | 04:57 |
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| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express (Health): Fitness: Dino Morea is doing these exercises to keep himself fit and positive; watch video → https://is.gd/1H4q05 | 05:44 |
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| Brainstorm | New from The Hindu: Coronavirus India lockdown Day 100 live updates | Lockdown rumours in Telangana triggers rush at checkposts: In the worst seven days since the start of the crisis, World Health Organization chief Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said the number of new cases had topped “160,000 on every single day” → https://is.gd/79yNZD | 06:03 |
| pyna | https://i.imgur.com/Ni60fL8.jpg | 06:09 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Australia news: Coronavirus Australia live updates: 50 Woolworths staff in Sydney isolate as Victoria records 77 new cases and suburbs in lockdown → https://is.gd/tVmDJ0 | 06:13 |
| Brainstorm | New from Reddit (test): nCoV: U.S. coronavirus cases rise by nearly 50,000 in biggest one-day spike | 02JUL20 → https://is.gd/KGvirW | 06:32 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Kyrgyzstan: +526 cases (now 6261), +4 deaths (now 66) since 23 hours ago — Pakistan: +4339 cases (now 217809), +78 deaths (now 4473) since 23 hours ago — World: +6393 cases (now 10.9 million), +82 deaths (now 519396) since an hour ago — Kazakhstan: +1509 cases (now 42574) since 6 hours ago | 06:36 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Australia news: Coronavirus Australia live updates: 50 Woolworths staff in Sydney isolate as Victoria records 77 new cases and suburbs in lockdown → https://is.gd/tVmDJ0 | 06:42 |
| CoronaBot | 04/r/coronavirus: Half of All Covid Tests Are Positive in Mexico, Highest in the World (10250 votes) | https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-07-01/half-of-all-covid-tests-are-positive-in-mexico-highest-in-world?utm_source=facebook&utm_content=business&utm_medium=social&cmpid=socialflow-facebook-business&utm_campaign=socialflow-organic&fbclid=IwAR3SSn68_uxnJGHRSMkVciYD3CcsUkJSgmBtDbygjcH4g7monY3FcCMU3-M | https://redd.it/hjk9hl | 06:59 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Hindu: Coronavirus India lockdown Day 100 live updates | Kerala finds more evidence of community transmission: In the worst seven days since the start of the crisis, World Health Organization chief Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said the number of new cases had topped “160,000 on every single day” → https://is.gd/79yNZD | 07:01 |
| CoronaBot | 04/r/covid19: Estimation of Excess Deaths Associated With the COVID-19 Pandemic in the United States, March to May 2020 (80 votes) | https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/2767980 | https://redd.it/hjnbyc | 07:05 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Australia news: Coronavirus Australia live updates: 50 Woolworths staff in Sydney isolate as Victoria records 77 new cases and suburbs in lockdown → https://is.gd/tVmDJ0 | 07:20 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Piaui, Brazil: +1637 cases (now 22059), +23 deaths (now 686) since a day ago — Karnataka, India: +1272 cases (now 16514), +7 deaths (now 253) since a day ago — Mato Grosso, Brazil: +1696 cases (now 25297), +50 deaths (now 719) since 4 hours ago — Sucre, Colombia: +102 cases (now 1255), +4 deaths (now 67) since 4 hours ago | 07:21 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Hindu: Coronavirus India lockdown Day 100 live updates | Kerala finds more evidence of community transmission: In the worst seven days since the start of the crisis, World Health Organization chief Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said the number of new cases had topped “160,000 on every single day” → https://is.gd/79yNZD | 07:40 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Australia news: Coronavirus Australia live updates: 50 Woolworths staff in Sydney isolate as Victoria records 77 new cases and suburbs in lockdown → https://is.gd/tVmDJ0 | 07:49 |
| kreyren | So my friend from poland has covid-19 and doesn't have a doctor at the moment due to her ... where apparently in poland they just lock up patients, check them once a day and let them in a hospital? Can anyone confirm that? | 08:12 |
| tinwhiskers | what do you mean "lock up patients" and "let them in a hospital"? It sounds like those two are mutually exclusive. | 08:16 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Hindu: Coronavirus India lockdown Day 100 live updates | 10-day complete lockdown begins in Mumbai, adjoining districts: In the worst seven days since the start of the crisis, World Health Organization chief Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said the number of new cases had topped “160,000 on every single day” → https://is.gd/79yNZD | 08:18 |
| tinwhiskers | It sounds like they put people who have tested positive (or maybe have symptoms) into enforced quarantine, and if they get sick they are sent to hospital? | 08:19 |
| kreyren | tinwhiskers, i don't know she is quite stupid.. | 08:27 |
| tinwhiskers | It seems Poland only has mandatory quarantine for people entering the country (and Polish citizens may be exempt). Maybe you'll find your answer here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic_in_Poland | 08:27 |
| kreyren | tinwhiskers, i would also think that people would be self-isolating and if they get worse to be sent in hospital | 08:27 |
| tinwhiskers | yeah | 08:27 |
| kreyren | Does covid-19 causes a nausea? | 08:28 |
| tinwhiskers | Covid-19 causes just about every symptom under the sun in at least *some* cases. | 08:29 |
| xrogaan | 'cause, at some point, your whole body is under assault. | 08:30 |
| tinwhiskers | Nausea is one of the more common symptoms though | 08:30 |
| xrogaan | so it's not just one symptom that you should worry about, but the bunch of them. | 08:30 |
| tinwhiskers | yeah | 08:30 |
| kreyren | i see, thanks for info | 08:30 |
| xrogaan | Difficulties to breathe (shortness) is one major hint. | 08:31 |
| tinwhiskers | https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/symptoms-testing/symptoms.html | 08:31 |
| tinwhiskers | The channel topic also has a wealth of information about that sort of thing | 08:31 |
| xrogaan | But if it get to that point, you're in trouble. | 08:32 |
| tinwhiskers | See https://covid19.specops.network/ | 08:32 |
| kreyren | i've instructed her about the situation and she is researching it now so hopefully she is not that dumb O.o | 08:37 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Australia news: Coronavirus Australia live updates: national Covid-19 cases pass 8,000 as Victoria suburbs in lockdown → https://is.gd/tVmDJ0 | 08:37 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express: World: Global Coronavirus Updates, 02 July: US records 50,000 new cases in one day; Brazil death toll crosses 60,000 → https://is.gd/wZPle8 | 08:47 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Hindu: Coronavirus India lockdown Day 100 live updates | 10-day complete lockdown begins in Mumbai, adjoining districts: In the worst seven days since the start of the crisis, World Health Organization chief Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said the number of new cases had topped “160,000 on every single day” → https://is.gd/79yNZD | 08:57 |
| CoronaBot | 04/r/coronavirus: US reports 50,298 cases today so far, highest on record (10171 votes) | https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/oregon/ | https://redd.it/hjmppl | 08:58 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Coronavirus outbreak: UK coronavirus live: government to set out plans to get all children back to school → https://is.gd/JhZM4o | 09:06 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Hindu: Other States: COVID-19: Pune reports 217 fresh cases over 12-hour span → https://is.gd/pIrqrT | 09:16 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Coronavirus outbreak: UK coronavirus live: government to set out plans to get all children back to school → https://is.gd/JhZM4o | 09:26 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health: Sweden's currency has strengthened — with no coronavirus lockdown — and the trend could continue: Sweden's currency, the krona, has strengthened against the euro in the last three months as risks surrounding the coronavirus have abounded on the continent. → https://is.gd/AGGPYj | 10:14 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Coronavirus outbreak: UK coronavirus live: government to set out plans to get all children back to school → https://is.gd/JhZM4o | 10:23 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express (Health): Life-style: DIY decor ideas for a home wedding during lockdown → https://is.gd/emGzCV | 10:43 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Coronavirus outbreak: UK coronavirus live: government to set out plans to get all children back to school → https://is.gd/JhZM4o | 11:02 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Bangladesh: +4019 cases (now 153277), +38 deaths (now 1926) since 23 hours ago — Russia: +6760 cases (now 661165), +147 deaths (now 9683) since a day ago — Armenia: +593 cases (now 26658), +6 deaths (now 459) since a day ago — El Salvador: +264 cases (now 7000), +9 deaths (now 191) since a day ago | 11:07 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Indonesia: +1624 cases (now 59394), +53 deaths (now 2987) since a day ago — Slovenia: +21 cases (now 1634) since a day ago — Poland: +371 cases (now 35146), +15 deaths (now 1492) since a day ago — Philippines: +294 cases (now 38805), +4 deaths (now 1274) since a day ago | 11:22 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: US setting new coronavirus case records as 'Russian bounty' row continues - live updates: 52,000 new coronavirus cases announced yesterday Alarm grows over Covid-19 spike among young Trump continues to describe ‘Russian bounty’ story as a hoax Sign up to our First Thing newsletter 10.54am BST → https://is.gd/8Eaut5 | 12:00 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Hindu: National: Ramp up COVID-19 testing, Health Ministry tells States, UTs → https://is.gd/GwdvgU | 12:09 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Coronavirus UK: are Covid-19 cases rising or falling near you?: Latest updates: how has Covid-19 progressed where you live? Check the week-on-week changes across England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland → https://is.gd/mkh0io | 12:19 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for US Virgin Is: +11 cases (now 92) since 5 days ago — Oman: +1361 cases (now 42555), +3 deaths (now 188) since a day ago — Romania: +450 cases (now 27746), +20 deaths (now 1687) since 23 hours ago — Albania: +82 cases (now 2662), +4 deaths (now 69) since 23 hours ago | 12:22 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Hindu: Madurai’s residents welfare associations take safety measures to contain spread of COVID-19: Associations at apartment complexes are scanning visitors, installing sanitiser dispensers and ensuring quarantine protocols are followed → https://is.gd/EODlQ0 | 12:29 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Palestine: +220 cases (now 2978) since 16 hours ago — Iran: +2652 cases (now 232863), +148 deaths (now 11106) since 23 hours ago — Senegal: +129 cases (now 7054), +5 deaths (now 121) since 23 hours ago — World: +3136 cases (now 10.9 million), +153 deaths (now 519953) since 19 minutes ago | 12:37 |
| Brainstorm | New from Reddit (test): CoronaVirusInfo: RED ALERT: MILLIONS WILL BE SICK FOR YEARS AFTER COVID-19 - NEW LOCKDOWNS CLOSE IN CITIES → https://is.gd/uxzVVQ | 12:38 |
| Brainstorm | New from Reddit (test): Covid2019: Johnson & Johnson Prepares For COVID-19 Vaccine Human Trials: Clinical trials are well underway for three COVID-19 vaccine candidates being funded by the United States. “A billion vaccines is still the goal,” Custers says. → https://is.gd/wTSxvh | 12:48 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Madagascar: +100 cases (now 2403), +2 deaths (now 24) since 23 hours ago — Nepal: +473 cases (now 14519), +1 deaths (now 31) since 23 hours ago — Belarus: +274 cases (now 62698), +7 deaths (now 405) since 21 hours ago — Dem. Rep. Congo: +67 cases (now 7189), +1 deaths (now 176) since 23 hours ago | 13:07 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Coronavirus outbreak: UK coronavirus live: government publishes plan for all schools in England to open full time in September → https://is.gd/JhZM4o | 13:07 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express: World: Tokyo cases spike to highest number since May → https://is.gd/H2Tgc9 | 13:46 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Coronavirus outbreak: High court hears legal challenge to England's lockdown restrictions → https://is.gd/1Vycn3 | 14:05 |
| Jigsy | %cases UK | 14:19 |
| Brainstorm | Jigsy: In United Kingdom, there have been 313483 confirmed cases (0.5% of the population) and 43906 deaths (14.0% of cases) as of 20 hours ago. 9.7 million tests were performed (3.2% positive). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=United%20Kingdom for time series data. | 14:19 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: US setting new coronavirus case records as 'Russian bounty' row continues - live updates: 52,000 new coronavirus cases announced yesterday Alarm grows over Covid-19 spike among young Trump continues to describe ‘Russian bounty’ story as a hoax Sign up to our First Thing newsletter 1.11pm BST → https://is.gd/8Eaut5 | 14:24 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: UK coronavirus live: moves to ease lockdown paused in some Scottish towns after outbreaks: Scotland to relax 2-metre rule in some areas but lockdown rules will remain around some towns; getting English schools back to normal is critical , Williamson says → https://is.gd/JhZM4o | 14:34 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health: Coronavirus live updates: U.S. reports a record 50,000 new cases in a day: The coronavirus has now infected more than 10.71 million people around the world as of Thursday, killing at least 516,726 people. → https://is.gd/omRFUl | 14:43 |
| underscore | hello | 15:09 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: UK coronavirus live: Scotland to relax 2-metre rule but lockdown-easing paused in some towns after outbreaks: Scotland’s distancing rule to be relaxed for some sectors ; lockdown-easing paused in some Scottish towns ; getting English schools back to normal critical , Williamson says → https://is.gd/JhZM4o | 15:12 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health: 'Cuddle curtains' are going global amid the coronavirus pandemic: One of the hardest parts of the coronavirus pandemic for many people has been that social distancing measures, but there is a solution. → https://is.gd/LwKcve | 15:22 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Serbia: +359 cases (now 15195), +6 deaths (now 287) since 23 hours ago — Saudi Arabia: +3383 cases (now 197608), +54 deaths (now 1752) since 23 hours ago — Iraq: +2184 cases (now 53708), +110 deaths (now 2160) since 23 hours ago — Kuwait: +919 cases (now 47859), +1 deaths (now 359) since a day ago | 15:23 |
| ottavio | Only two days and then: party party party! | 15:40 |
| ottavio | (Flu party) | 15:41 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health: Coronavirus live updates: U.S. reports a record 50,000 new cases in a day: The coronavirus has now infected more than 10.71 million people around the world as of Thursday, killing at least 516,726 people. → https://is.gd/omRFUl | 15:41 |
| ottavio | Let's all meet up in Leicester. | 15:41 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: US setting new coronavirus case records as 'Russian bounty' row continues – live updates: 52,000 new coronavirus cases announced yesterday Alarm grows over Covid-19 spike among young Trump continues to describe ‘Russian bounty’ story as a hoax Sign up to our First Thing newsletter 2.45pm BST → https://is.gd/8Eaut5 | 15:51 |
| Brainstorm | New from Reddit (test): Survey on Transition to Online Therapy During COVID-19 (18+): I hope you are doing well during these difficult times. In light of the current COVID-19 pandemic, we are interested to hear about your transition to online therapy. We are a collaborative team of psychotherapists and researchers from New York Psychoanalytic Institute [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/wcxAen | 16:00 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health: Coronavirus live updates: U.S. reports a record 50,000 new cases in a day: The coronavirus has now infected more than 10.72 million people around the world as of Thursday, killing at least 516,970 people. → https://is.gd/omRFUl | 16:10 |
| CoronaBot | 04/r/covid19: SARS-CoV-2 reactive T cells in uninfected individuals are likely expanded by beta-coronaviruses (82 votes) | https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.07.01.182741v1 | https://redd.it/hjq1mx | 16:16 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health: (news): Watch live: Senate holds hearing on Trump administration's Operation Warp Speed to develop coronavirus vaccine → https://is.gd/5aqu3d | 16:48 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Hindu: Kochi: COVID-19: gatherings to land people in trouble → https://is.gd/OkPQA1 | 16:58 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health: U.S. coronavirus cases soar by more than 50,600 in record single-day jump: The U.S. reported more than 50,600 additional coronavirus cases on Wednesday, the largest single-day increase since the beginning of the outbreak. → https://is.gd/Lm5V1I | 17:17 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health: Cornell president: In-person fall classes will be safer for our students than all virtual semester: Cornell plans to spend $3 million to $5 million to "mandate testing, and tracing and isolation, on a very aggressive regular basis," University President Martha Pollack told CNBC. → https://is.gd/PnFPey | 17:27 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health: Coronavirus live updates: U.S. reports a record 50,000 new cases in a day: The coronavirus has now infected more than 10.72 million people around the world as of Thursday, killing at least 516,970 people. → https://is.gd/omRFUl | 17:37 |
| nixonix | i just saw pics from googles graphs of daily deaths and cases, that look a bit strange, compared to offloops stats. any ideas where to find them (without some phone app)? not the same as this (but a bit more detailed graphs) https://news.google.com/covid19/map?hl=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US%3Aen&mid=%2Fm%2F09c7w0 | 17:40 |
| nixonix | but something like this https://i.imgur.com/tODM7dk.png | 17:42 |
| CoronaBot_ | 04/r/covid19: High seroprevalence for SARS-CoV-2 among household members of essential workers detected using a dried blood spot assay (80 votes) | https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.06.01.20119602v1 | https://redd.it/hjwrow | 17:47 |
| CoronaBot_ | 04/r/coronavirus: The US isn't in a second wave of coronavirus – the first wave never ended (10048 votes) | https://theconversation.com/the-us-isnt-in-a-second-wave-of-coronavirus-the-first-wave-never-ended-141032 | https://redd.it/hjq2a9 | 17:50 |
| nixonix | second wave(s) in usa... possibly at some states (outbreak areas are smaller, though). i have around 15 states graphs, where louisiana looks most obvious case, but others have had long plateau, then rised again. if testing has increased during that time, the real numbers of infections have probably been lower a few weeks ago, then started to rise lately again. second wave | 18:47 |
| LjL | nixonix, i'd like some graph that takes test increases (or decreases) into account in some way but i can't really imagine a reasonable formula to get there | 18:52 |
| LjL | you can just look at the percentage of positives over all tests done, but that tells more the *other* half of the story, without the first half | 18:53 |
| nixonix | testing data isnt continuous anyway, for many countries or states | 18:55 |
| LjL | nixonix, isn't it actually, or is it just Covidly (and hence offloop) that reports it in a broken way? | 19:12 |
| LjL | i always assumed the latter since Covidly data is full of artifacts | 19:12 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health: (news): Moderna stock falls 8% after report says late-stage coronavirus vaccine trial delayed → https://is.gd/SMN4Up | 19:18 |
| nixonix | i dont know, but good testing data without bunch of backlogs added every once in the while would be nice, to compare graphs so that the effect of different measures and reopenings could be seen | 19:21 |
| LjL | nixonix, it would, but i think Covidly gets data partly from wikipedia, and i guess that gets updated when it gets updated. there are some 200 countries, and each publishes their data on a different website and in a different format :\ | 19:22 |
| LjL | hard to make something that *reliably* tracks them all | 19:22 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Eswatini: +33 cases (now 873) since 2 hours ago — New Jersey, US: +7 cases (now 177245), +24 deaths (now 15242) since 2 hours ago — New York, US: +767 cases (now 419372), +3 deaths (now 32146) since 2 hours ago — India: +7852 cases (now 626538), +137 deaths (now 18226) since 21 minutes ago | 19:22 |
| LjL | ignore the silliness of this particular update (and maybe a few of the next) because i purged the database, so now the US having +7 cases gets shown | 19:23 |
| LjL | one of the criteria for showing is having more cases than last time | 19:24 |
| CoronaBot | 04/r/coronavirus: Florida shatters records with over 10,000 new COVID-19 cases in single day (10049 votes) | https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-usa-florida/florida-shatters-records-with-over-10000-new-covid-19-cases-in-single-day-idUSKBN243299 | https://redd.it/hjyekw | 19:26 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Gottlieb says worst of outbreak will pass by January; Pence sees no need for a mask mandate → https://is.gd/omRFUl | 19:28 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | >>India: +7852 cases (now 626538), +137 deaths (now 18226) since 21 minutes ago<< WAAAAH! | 19:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | %cases india | 19:36 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Maldives: +18 cases (now 2400) since 2 hours ago — Mayotte: +7 cases (now 2650) since 2 hours ago — Morocco: +115 cases (now 12969), +1 deaths (now 229) since 2 hours ago — World: +140 cases (now 11.0 million), +1 deaths (now 521733) since 19 minutes ago | 19:36 |
| Brainstorm | DocScrutinizer05: In India, there have been 626538 confirmed cases (0.0% of the population) and 18226 deaths (2.9% of cases) as of 19 minutes ago. 9.1 million tests were performed (6.9% positive). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=India for time series data. | 19:36 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | %cases usa | 19:36 |
| Brainstorm | DocScrutinizer05: In US, there have been 2.8 million confirmed cases (0.9% of the population) and 131099 deaths (4.7% of cases) as of 19 minutes ago. 34.8 million tests were performed (8.1% positive). Fatality can be broadly expected to lie between 0.5% (assuming testing prevalence) and less than 10.0% (considering only deaths and recoveries).. See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=US for time series data. | 19:36 |
| LjL | DocScrutinizer05, ignore the "since 21 minutes ago", it is also because i purged the database so it had no prior timstamps | 19:36 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | aaah | 19:37 |
| LjL | for a while it will output data that will look perplexing. should be fine again by tomorrow this time | 19:37 |
| LjL | i realized there was a bug that made the database corrupt, had to delete the database | 19:37 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health: (news): Moderna stock falls 8% after report says late-stage coronavirus vaccine trial delayed → https://is.gd/SMN4Up | 19:37 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | USA all time high 50k/d ? | 19:37 |
| LjL | i also changed the sorting criteria a bit, so different countries may be shown now on update | 19:37 |
| LjL | the new criteria is mainly "prioritize those who have a delta much either than the previous delta" | 19:38 |
| LjL | yeah i believe USA hit record number today | 19:38 |
| LjL | said that on some news headline earlier | 19:38 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | :nod: | 19:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | it's a pity that the fans of those politicians who are responsible for such awesome disaster management are not the ones who will pay the toll to Darwin | 19:42 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Gottlieb says worst of outbreak will pass by January; Pence sees no need for a mask mandate → https://is.gd/omRFUl | 19:47 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | "no need for a mask mandate" suuuure what's the point of such a mask anyway?! | 19:55 |
| azazello | i | 20:04 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health: (news): Moderna stock falls by as much as 9.4% after report says late-stage coronavirus vaccine trial delayed → https://is.gd/SMN4Up | 20:06 |
| JennyRN | LjL: is there just a lag in the US deaths/day rising vs. the exponential case number rises ? | 20:07 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Germany: +216 cases (now 196588), +2 deaths (now 9063) since 3 hours ago — United Arab Emirates: +400 cases (now 49469), +1 deaths (now 317) since 3 hours ago — India: +53 cases (now 626591) since 51 minutes ago — Iowa, US: +1 cases (now 30060) since an hour ago | 20:08 |
| LjL | non-legacy data for the US makes it look like it's actually flattening... which it is definitely not, on legacy data (which i believe to be right) :\ | 20:13 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Gottlieb says worst of outbreak will pass by January; Pence sees no need for a mask mandate → https://is.gd/omRFUl | 20:16 |
| LjL | JennyRN, i don't know, there's certainly a delay with deaths compared to cases, but whether the lack of a spike in deaths *now in the US* is just caused by that lag, or also other factors, i don't know. in Italy the virus is appearing to be less fatal/serious currently than during the worst part of the epidemic, many doctors have stated it, while handwaving something about possible lower viral loads | 20:17 |
| LjL | so that's a possibility although the thing in the US evolved in a very different way | 20:17 |
| LjL | treatment also gets better with time, although we have found no groundbreaking thing | 20:17 |
| LjL | anyway, i think the reversal in the case trend in the US is too recent to be reflected in deaths yet. we have to wait i think one more week or so | 20:18 |
| nixonix | link us if you get some reliable information of that change in italy | 20:21 |
| JennyRN | LjL: seems like is 30% in Arizona of those testing are CV+, and if the testing is limited to those with Sx and/or as the CDC is estimating a much higher exposed per capita, perhaps there is some "herd" immunity built in, in some areas? | 20:22 |
| nixonix | although it should find its way in headlines, i suppose. with or without proper paper coming out | 20:22 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for France: +14 deaths (now 29875) since 3 hours ago — World: +14 deaths (now 521769) since 21 minutes ago | 20:23 |
| LjL | JennyRN, i don't know, there are variables that are unclear IMO about herd immunity. i don't think anywhere has been shown to have the numbers required for herd immunity, however there's a paper suggesting that 40-60% of people may have immunity to other coronaviruses and that immunity partly works for COVID too. *however*, a paper out yesterday seems to contradict that (although it's only about children) | 20:23 |
| LjL | JennyRN, 30% of testing coming out positive in Arizona is less than we have in Lombardy, but it's not very meaningful i think unless we know the exact criteria for testing | 20:24 |
| LjL | if you're very good at identifying contacts at risk, you'll get higher positive percentages at testing, regardless of the real prevalence | 20:24 |
| LjL | but, 30% is certainly a lot more than the 0.3% we're getting now in Italy, so there is that, Arizona definitely looks to be in a bit of trouble | 20:24 |
| LjL | %cases arizona | 20:25 |
| Brainstorm | LjL: In Arizona, US, there have been 87425 confirmed cases (1.3% of the population) and 1757 deaths (2.0% of cases) as of an hour ago. 721985 tests were performed (12.1% positive). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=US for time series data. | 20:25 |
| LjL | %cases lombardy | 20:25 |
| Brainstorm | LjL: In Lombardy, Italy, there have been 94010 confirmed cases (0.9% of the population) and 16650 deaths (17.7% of cases) as of 3 hours ago. 196302 tests were performed (47.9% positive). Fatality can be broadly expected to lie between 0.3% (assuming testing prevalence) and less than 19.8% (considering only deaths and recoveries).. See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=Lombardy for time series data. | 20:25 |
| LjL | lol 47.9% positive, and that's not the peak, that's on average | 20:25 |
| LjL | i think arizona has a long way to go before it gets herd immunity still | 20:25 |
| LjL | and the deaths are rising exponetially just as the cases | 20:26 |
| LjL | we can't see that in the general US graph just yet, but in the Arizona-specific graph it's clearer | 20:26 |
| JennyRN | sadly tragic, that florida and arizona happen to be big retirement states .. | 20:26 |
| LjL | the deaths curve isn't nearly as steep as the case curve but it's also not at all like the general US one which seems to be tapering off still | 20:26 |
| LjL | Florida is looking like the case curve is even scarier than Arizona's, yet the deaths are linear | 20:28 |
| stinkpot | damn, nearly 50% positive rate on tests | 20:28 |
| stinkpot | didn't realize it was that high this whole time | 20:28 |
| LjL | similar amount of testing | 20:28 |
| LjL | %cases Florida | 20:28 |
| Brainstorm | LjL: In Florida, US, there have been 169106 confirmed cases (0.8% of the population) and 3618 deaths (2.1% of cases) as of an hour ago. 2.0 million tests were performed (8.3% positive). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=US for time series data. | 20:28 |
| LjL | stinkpot, well it's specific to Lombardy, it's lower country-wide | 20:29 |
| LjL | fwiw | 20:29 |
| JennyRN | I understand in Texas, testing centers have been closed early, for lack of test kits | 20:29 |
| JennyRN | guess they didn't plan for a giantic surge | 20:30 |
| JennyRN | and/or the giant diagnostic labs nationally are also going to be effected | 20:31 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Eritrea: +12 cases (now 215) since 3 hours ago — World: +12 cases (now 11.0 million) since 28 minutes ago | 20:38 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for South Carolina, US: +1782 cases (now 39701), +18 deaths (now 784) since 3 hours ago — Michigan, US: +589 cases (now 71678), +14 deaths (now 6212) since 3 hours ago — Germany: +6 cases (now 196594) since 51 minutes ago — US: +2371 cases (now 2.8 million), +32 deaths (now 131150) since 51 minutes ago | 20:53 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Coronavirus live news: Florida reports a record 10,000 new cases in one day: US state records biggest one-day increase in its new cases ; Sweden records 947 new cases in a day; Tokyo confirms 107 new coronavirus infections ; Russia cases pass 660,000 → https://is.gd/4W0ONB | 21:04 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Mauritania: +134 cases (now 4606) since 4 hours ago — Ecuador: +1211 cases (now 59468), +63 deaths (now 4639) since 4 hours ago — Guinea: +46 cases (now 5450) since 4 hours ago — Paraguay: +43 cases (now 2303) since 4 hours ago | 21:08 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Gottlieb says worst of outbreak will pass by January; Pence sees no need for a mask mandate → https://is.gd/omRFUl | 21:14 |
| kpiyushlucky | I'm really tensed about my career. | 21:19 |
| kpiyushlucky | anyone from India? | 21:20 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Palestine: +102 cases (now 3080) since 4 hours ago — Georgia (US), US: +3472 cases (now 87709), +22 deaths (now 2849) since 4 hours ago — Yemen: +31 cases (now 1221), +7 deaths (now 325) since 4 hours ago — US: +3472 cases (now 2.8 million), +22 deaths (now 131172) since 35 minutes ago | 21:23 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Coronavirus live news: Florida reports a record 10,000 new cases in one day: US state records biggest one-day increase in its new cases ; Sweden records 947 new cases in a day; Tokyo confirms 107 new coronavirus infections ; Russia cases pass 660,000 → https://is.gd/4W0ONB | 21:23 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Gottlieb says worst of outbreak will pass by January; Pence sees no need for a mask mandate → https://is.gd/omRFUl | 21:33 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Costa Rica: +270 cases (now 4023) since 4 hours ago — Rwanda: +21 cases (now 1063) since 4 hours ago — Zimbabwe: +12 cases (now 617) since 4 hours ago — Iowa, US: +72 cases (now 30132) since an hour ago | 21:38 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Egypt: +1485 cases (now 71299), +86 deaths (now 3120) since 4 hours ago — Togo: +6 cases (now 667) since 4 hours ago — World: +1491 cases (now 11.0 million), +86 deaths (now 521982) since 18 minutes ago | 21:53 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Ivory Coast: +290 cases (now 9992) since 5 hours ago — Alaska, US: +39 cases (now 1017) since 5 hours ago — Wisconsin, US: +539 cases (now 29738), +7 deaths (now 793) since 5 hours ago — Gambia: +6 cases (now 55) since 5 hours ago | 22:08 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Coronavirus live news: Florida reports a record 10,000 new cases in one day: US state records biggest one-day increase in its new cases ; Sweden records 947 new cases in a day; Tokyo confirms 107 new coronavirus infections ; Russia cases pass 660,000 → https://is.gd/4W0ONB | 22:11 |
| JennyRN | this sort of says it all: And in Michigan, where cases have started inching upward again and where more than 100 infections were traced to a single bar, Gov. Gretchen Whitmer ordered bars to cease indoor service again in much of the state.“If we want to be in a strong position to reopen schools for in-person classroom instruction this fall,” | 22:20 |
| JennyRN | can't even manage a mask, so inconvenient to close drinking in bars.. | 22:22 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Massachusetts, US: +195 cases (now 109338), +51 deaths (now 8132) since 5 hours ago — Illinois, US: +869 cases (now 145935), +36 deaths (now 7188) since 5 hours ago — Ireland: +12 cases (now 25489) since 5 hours ago — Tennessee, US: +1575 cases (now 46890), +11 deaths (now 620) since 5 hours ago | 22:23 |
| blazenblack | hi | 22:33 |
| blazenblack | can anybody help me | 22:34 |
| ecks | with? | 22:34 |
| blazenblack | about what is covid ı am on mars | 22:35 |
| genera | does it need o2 ? | 22:37 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Texas, US: +182 cases (now 175691) since 5 hours ago — Pennsylvania, US: +376 cases (now 92543) since 3 hours ago — Kentucky, US: +237 cases (now 16079), +9 deaths (now 581) since 5 hours ago — Missouri, US: +405 cases (now 23100), +6 deaths (now 1055) since 5 hours ago | 22:38 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Israel: +595 cases (now 27047) since 5 hours ago — Washington, US: +125 cases (now 34720) since 5 hours ago — Ohio, US: +300 cases (now 53635), +9 deaths (now 2910) since 5 hours ago — Oregon, US: +363 cases (now 9294), +1 deaths (now 209) since 5 hours ago | 22:53 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Gottlieb says worst of outbreak will pass by January; Pence sees no need for a mask mandate → https://is.gd/omRFUl | 22:59 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Germany: +80 cases (now 196674) since 2 hours ago — California, US: +1474 cases (now 240633), +15 deaths (now 6186) since 34 minutes ago — Texas, US: +1339 cases (now 178702), +7 deaths (now 2563) since 20 minutes ago — US: +3025 cases (now 2.8 million), +25 deaths (now 131383) since 20 minutes ago | 23:08 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Coronavirus US: Texas governor orders all residents to wear masks – live: Greg Abbott issues executive order, marking reversal Herman Cain tests positive for virus after attending Trump rally Mnuchin: Trump administration has no regrets about reopening push Trump has ‘gone awol’ as president amid pandemic, says ex-CIA [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/8Eaut5 | 23:09 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Gottlieb says worst of outbreak will pass by January; Pence sees no need for a mask mandate → https://is.gd/omRFUl | 23:19 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Peru: +3527 cases (now 292004), +185 deaths (now 10045) since 6 hours ago — West Virginia, US: +47 cases (now 3053) since 6 hours ago — Wyoming, US: +36 cases (now 1550) since 6 hours ago — World: +4180 cases (now 11.0 million), +189 deaths (now 522380) since 18 minutes ago | 23:24 |
| nixonix | a finnish app, that people seem have no privacy concerns with. do we agree with them? https://www.foreigner.fi/opinion/afnan-zafar/covid-19-contact-tracing-apps-and-privacy-concerns/20200701134234006727.html | 23:27 |
| nixonix | %title | 23:27 |
| Brainstorm | nixonix: From www.foreigner.fi: Covid-19: contact tracing apps and privacy concerns - Afnan Zafar - Foreigner.fi - The journal where Finland becomes global | 23:27 |
| nixonix | %title https://www.tellerreport.com/news/2020-06-26-this-is-the-finnish-corona-tracking-application---coming-in-september.Hk_VqlHQRU.html | 23:27 |
| Brainstorm | nixonix: From www.tellerreport.com: This is the Finnish corona tracking application - coming in September - Teller Report | 23:27 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Australia news: Coronavirus Australia live: Balmain locals urged to be on virus alert as Eden-Monaro race enters final day – latest updates → https://is.gd/7MpM5t | 23:38 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for South Africa: +8728 cases (now 168061), +95 deaths (now 2844) since 6 hours ago — United Kingdom: +89 deaths (now 43995) since 16 hours ago — Uzbekistan: +82 cases (now 9078) since 6 hours ago — Brazil: +19974 cases (now 1.5 million), +570 deaths (now 61884) since 4 hours ago | 23:39 |
| genera | %cases AZ | 23:48 |
| Brainstorm | genera: In Arizona, US, there have been 87425 confirmed cases (1.3% of the population) and 1757 deaths (2.0% of cases) as of 4 hours ago. 721985 tests were performed (12.1% positive). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=US for time series data. | 23:48 |
| genera | %cases germany | 23:48 |
| Brainstorm | genera: In Germany, there have been 196674 confirmed cases (0.2% of the population) and 9063 deaths (4.6% of cases) as of 44 minutes ago. 5.9 million tests were performed (3.3% positive). Fatality can be broadly expected to lie between 0.3% (assuming testing prevalence) and less than 4.8% (considering only deaths and recoveries).. See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=Germany for time series data. | 23:48 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Ohio, US: +531 cases (now 54166) since an hour ago — Suriname: +12 cases (now 547) since 6 hours ago — California, US: +652 cases (now 242565), +9 deaths (now 6201) since 20 minutes ago — Iowa, US: +1 deaths (now 719) since 50 minutes ago | 23:54 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Texas Gov. mandates face coverings; Gottlieb says worst of outbreak will pass by January → https://is.gd/omRFUl | 23:57 |
| CoronaBot | 04/r/covid19: Treatment with Hydroxychloroquine, Azithromycin, and Combination in Patients Hospitalized with COVID-19 (84 votes) | https://www.ijidonline.com/article/S1201-9712(20)30534-8/fulltext | https://redd.it/hk0lta | 23:59 |
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