libera/##covid-19/ Sunday, 2020-07-12

BrainstormUpdates for World: +641 cases (now 12.9 million), +2 deaths (now 567166) since 18 minutes ago — US: +625 cases (now 3.4 million), +2 deaths (now 137349) since 18 minutes ago — Hawaii, US: +42 cases (now 1200) since 23 hours ago — Colorado, US: +400 cases (now 36591), +1 deaths (now 1725) since 23 hours ago00:06
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus live news: Trump makes first public outing in mask while global deaths tally over 560,000 → https://is.gd/9Fqk7V00:38
BrainstormUpdates for World: +8460 cases (now 12.9 million), +219 deaths (now 567385) since 47 minutes ago — Nigeria: +664 cases (now 31987), +15 deaths (now 724) since 23 hours ago — Colombia: +4586 cases (now 145362), +134 deaths (now 5119) since 18 hours ago — US: +1768 cases (now 3.4 million), +33 deaths (now 137382) since 47 minutes ago00:51
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Donald Trump wears mask in public for first time – live: Florida and Texas see record surges in daily cases Global coronavirus liveblog: latest updates Will Republicans ditch Trump to save the Senate? Sign up to our First Thing newsletter 11.42pm BST → https://is.gd/9Ic4Hn00:58
CoronaBot_04/r/coronavirus: US reaches 1% of its population officially being confirmed as infected with coronavirus. (10199 votes) | https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us | https://redd.it/hpbymp01:05
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus live news: Trump makes first public outing in mask while global deaths tally over 560,000 → https://is.gd/9Fqk7V01:07
BrainstormNew from https://covid19.specops.network *: ljl-covid: Add Japan tracker → https://is.gd/hJjp4c01:26
BrainstormUpdates for World: +7209 cases (now 12.9 million), +72 deaths (now 567457) since 48 minutes ago — Idaho, US: +577 cases (now 10505), +1 deaths (now 102) since a day ago — Argentina: +3449 cases (now 97509), +23 deaths (now 1810) since 9 hours ago — US: +1631 cases (now 3.4 million), +11 deaths (now 137393) since 48 minutes ago01:37
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus live news: Trump makes first public outing in mask while global deaths tally over 560,000 → https://is.gd/9Fqk7V01:46
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Coronavirus live news: Australia vaccine human trials to start, Trump wears mask in public: ‘Molecular clamp’ jab from University of Queensland ‘ticked all the boxes’ in animal tests; Florida reopens Walt Disney World despite infection surge → https://is.gd/Qipy8b01:55
BrainstormUpdates for World: +1783 cases (now 12.9 million), +33 deaths (now 567490) since 48 minutes ago — Brazil: +962 cases (now 1.8 million), +23 deaths (now 71492) since 2 hours ago — US: +803 cases (now 3.4 million), +9 deaths (now 137402) since 48 minutes ago — Dominican Rep.: +599 cases (now 43114), +8 deaths (now 880) since 7 hours ago02:22
BrainstormUpdates for World: +6308 cases (now 12.9 million), +541 deaths (now 568031) since an hour ago — Mexico: +6094 cases (now 295268), +539 deaths (now 34730) since 23 hours ago — Cambodia: +15 cases (now 156) since 9 days ago — Texas, US: +141 cases (now 259465), +1 deaths (now 3228) since an hour ago03:22
CoronaBot_04/r/covid19: Biocon’s Breakthrough Drug Itolizumab Receives DCGI Nod for its Use in Moderate to Severe COVID-19 Patients (83 votes) | https://www.biocon.com/biocon_press_release_20200711.asp | https://redd.it/hph99203:42
BrainstormUpdates for Bolivia: +1635 cases (now 47200), +52 deaths (now 1754) since a day ago — World: +1635 cases (now 12.9 million), +52 deaths (now 568083) since 35 minutes ago03:52
CoronaBot_04/r/covid19: Your Mask Cuts Own Risk by 65 Percent (83 votes) | https://www.ucdavis.edu/coronavirus/news/your-mask-cuts-own-risk-65-percent/ | https://redd.it/hplnp104:08
LjLthis paper https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31142-9/fulltext talks about a "12-16 layer cotton mask"04:13
LjLthat's a little uh04:13
LjLhow many layers do they think i can take before my face falls off04:13
CoronaBot_04/r/coronavirus: President Trump wears mask in public for the first time during visit to Walter Reed Medical Center (10074 votes) | https://twitter.com/bnodesk/status/1282068536731611142?s=21 | https://redd.it/hpihwu04:30
ryoumaare layers better than one thick piece of cotton?04:32
BrainstormNew from Reddit (test): Covid2019: Hotels in Turkey will reimburse your stay if you catch coronavirus while there: "The Covid-19 Tourist Protection Health Insurance will start from £13 for a week-long stay, and will allow anyone who tests positive for coronavirus to stay out the rest of the trip without being charged." → https://is.gd/MzdE2D06:06
landofziploc[m]<ryouma "are layers better than one thick"> I think they are. I think diversity in fabrics helps.06:20
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Coronavirus live news: Australia vaccine human trials to start, Trump wears mask in public: ‘Molecular clamp’ jab from University of Queensland ‘ticked all the boxes’ in animal tests; Florida reopens Walt Disney World despite infection surge → https://is.gd/Qipy8b06:25
BrainstormUpdates for Kyrgyzstan: +719 cases (now 10629), +7 deaths (now 132) since a day ago — World: +5889 cases (now 12.9 million), +107 deaths (now 568190) since 3 hours ago — Pakistan: +2521 cases (now 248872), +74 deaths (now 5197) since a day ago — Kazakhstan: +1798 cases (now 58253) since a day ago06:53
BrainstormUpdates for Kosovo: +408 cases (now 4715), +7 deaths (now 101) since a day ago — World: +2291 cases (now 12.9 million), +114 deaths (now 568304) since 19 minutes ago — Ukraine: +825 cases (now 53941), +17 deaths (now 1389) since 21 hours ago — Japan: +301 cases (now 21430) since 6 hours ago07:08
BrainstormNew from Reddit (test): Covid2019: China's Sinovac, Sinopharm Group, of Shanghai, and Cansino Biologics Inc., of Tianjin China, have eyed different jurisdictions to conduct phase III trials for Covid 19 Vaccine. “The testing process will begin on July 20. Butantan will start recruiting the 9,000 volunteers for the phase III trials" → https://is.gd/VcXW6s07:23
BrainstormUpdates for Maharashtra, India: +8139 cases (now 246600), +223 deaths (now 10116) since a day ago — Minas Gerais, Brazil: +3727 cases (now 73813), +46 deaths (now 1550) since a day ago — Karnataka, India: +2798 cases (now 36216), +68 deaths (now 613) since a day ago — Santa Catarina, Brazil: +1920 cases (now 42026), +26 deaths (now 485) since a day ago07:23
CoronaBot_04/r/covid19: Working memory capacity predicts individual differences in social-distancing compliance during the COVID-19 pandemic in the United States (80 votes) | https://www.pnas.org/content/early/2020/07/09/2008868117 | https://redd.it/hpeez807:27
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Coronavirus live news: Australia vaccine human trials to start, Trump wears mask in public: ‘Molecular clamp’ jab from University of Queensland ‘ticked all the boxes’ in animal tests; Florida reopens Walt Disney World despite infection surge → https://is.gd/Qipy8b07:42
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Victoria: Victoria records 273 new Covid-19 cases and flags return to remote schooling in lockdown areas → https://is.gd/8bv59p07:52
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Coronavirus live news: Australia vaccine human trials to start, Trump wears mask in public: ‘Molecular clamp’ jab from University of Queensland ‘ticked all the boxes’ in animal tests; Florida reopens Walt Disney World despite infection surge → https://is.gd/Qipy8b08:11
BrainstormNew from The Indian Express: World: Global Coronavirus Updates, 12 July:  Trump wears mask in public for first time → https://is.gd/C9xlCv08:40
landofziploc[m]Hi - just wondering - are there sufficient quantities of medical/surgical masks in your community? I'm in LA and I think we have a lot.08:55
landofziploc[m] * Hi - just wondering - are there sufficient quantities of medical/surgical masks in your community? I'm in Los Angeles and I think we have a lot.08:56
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Theatres saved from bulldozer by new rules in lockdown: Communities secretary announces new planning rules forcing councils to take impact of Covid-19 into account → https://is.gd/x393IJ08:59
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Coronavirus live news: Okinawa anger over US base cases, Australia vaccine trial to begin: ‘Molecular clamp’ jab from University of Queensland ‘ticked all the boxes’ in animal tests; Florida reopens Walt Disney World despite infection surge → https://is.gd/Qipy8b09:09
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Coronavirus world map: which countries have the most Covid-19 cases and deaths?: Covid-19 has spread around the planet, sending billions of people into lockdown as health services struggle to cope. Find out where the virus has spread, and where it has been most deadly → https://is.gd/vFZGMY09:38
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Coronavirus live news: Okinawa anger over US base cases, Australia vaccine trial to begin: ‘Molecular clamp’ jab from University of Queensland ‘ticked all the boxes’ in animal tests; Florida reopens Walt Disney World despite infection surge → https://is.gd/Qipy8b09:57
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Richard Rose: Ohio Man Dies of COVID-19 After Saying Masks Were Hype → https://is.gd/mqqN9W10:07
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Coronavirus live news: Russia reports over 6,600 new cases; UK Labour says it could support mandatory masks in shops: Russia’s case total now above 727,000 ; UK opposition signals support for stricter mask rules ; Anger in Japan as dozens of US soldiers test positive on Okinawa base; Australia to start human vaccine trial → https://is.gd/Qipy8b10:17
BrainstormNew from The Indian Express: World: Constable who was in car transporting gangster Vikas Dubey from Ujjain tests positive for COVID-19 → https://is.gd/zB6yTI10:46
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Coronavirus live news: Russia reports over 6,600 new cases; UK Labour signals support for stricter mask rules: Russia’s case total now above 727,000 ; UK opposition signals support for mandatory masks in shops ; Anger in Japan as dozens of US soldiers test positive on Okinawa base; Australia to start human vaccine trial → https://is.gd/Qipy8b10:55
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Sydney: Crossroads Hotel: thousands told to isolate for two weeks as Sydney coronavirus cluster grows → https://is.gd/BZcIdO11:15
BrainstormUpdates for World: +15758 cases (now 12.9 million), +307 deaths (now 568611) since 4 hours ago — Russia: +6615 cases (now 727162), +130 deaths (now 11335) since a day ago — Poland: +370 cases (now 37891), +3 deaths (now 1571) since a day ago — Bangladesh: +2666 cases (now 183795), +47 deaths (now 2352) since a day ago11:25
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Former Prime Minister Helen Clark to lead World Health Organization review of how world handled COVID-19 → https://is.gd/jszIMO11:34
BrainstormNew from The Indian Express: World: Video calls, separate bedrooms: Bolsonaro’s first COVID week → https://is.gd/pRnGpO11:43
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Okinawans ‘shocked’ & demand transparency after Covid-19 outbreaks at US bases increase Japanese prefecture’s case toll by 40% → https://is.gd/Viubx112:12
BrainstormUpdates for World: +3139 cases (now 12.9 million), +210 deaths (now 568821) since an hour ago — Iran: +2186 cases (now 257303), +194 deaths (now 12829) since a day ago — Romania: +456 cases (now 32535), +13 deaths (now 1884) since a day ago — Palestine: +299 cases (now 6230), +1 deaths (now 34) since 12 hours ago12:20
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Coronavirus outbreak: Face masks in shops will not be mandatory in England, Gove suggests → https://is.gd/jBEalg12:32
BrainstormUpdates for World: +2639 cases (now 12.9 million), +36 deaths (now 568857) since 31 minutes ago — India: +1950 cases (now 853211), +22 deaths (now 22718) since an hour ago — Tunisia: +18 cases (now 1263) since 18 hours ago — Belarus: +165 cases (now 64932), +5 deaths (now 464) since 23 hours ago12:50
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Italy: Coronavirus brings tension and prejudice to Italy's beaches → https://is.gd/cMvoZF12:51
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus live news: UK minister says people should return to work; Afghanistan death toll passes 1,000 → https://is.gd/Qipy8b13:01
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: With Black Americans dying of COVID-19 at higher rates, the medical community points to racism in health care → https://is.gd/OeQ0MQ13:20
BrainstormUpdates for Kuwait: +836 cases (now 54894), +4 deaths (now 390) since a day ago — World: +1221 cases (now 12.9 million), +5 deaths (now 568862) since 32 minutes ago — Madagascar: +289 cases (now 4867), +1 deaths (now 35) since a day ago — Sri Lanka: +94 cases (now 2605) since 15 hours ago13:20
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus live news: UK minister says people should return to work; Afghanistan death toll passes 1,000 → https://is.gd/Qipy8b13:39
BrainstormUpdates for World: +1733 cases (now 12.9 million), +9 deaths (now 568871) since 53 minutes ago — India: +1269 cases (now 854480) since an hour ago — Namibia: +117 cases (now 785) since a day ago — US: +347 cases (now 3.4 million), +9 deaths (now 137414) since an hour ago14:06
BrainstormUpdates for World: +681 cases (now 12.9 million), +7 deaths (now 568878) since 37 minutes ago — Qatar: +470 cases (now 103598), +1 deaths (now 147) since a day ago — Uzbekistan: +149 cases (now 12855), +1 deaths (now 59) since 3 hours ago — Croatia: +50 cases (now 3722), +1 deaths (now 119) since a day ago14:36
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: Bill Gates warns against coronavirus vaccine going to highest bidder — 'We'll have a deadlier pandemic': As countries and companies race to bring a Covid-19 vaccine to the market, concerns have risen about wealthier nations receiving more drugs than developing countries. → https://is.gd/yl5CyI15:06
BrainstormUpdates for World: +4083 cases (now 12.9 million), +48 deaths (now 568926) since 33 minutes ago — Saudi Arabia: +2779 cases (now 232259), +42 deaths (now 2223) since 23 hours ago — Virginia, US: +888 cases (now 70670), +4 deaths (now 1966) since 23 hours ago — US: +888 cases (now 3.4 million), +4 deaths (now 137418) since an hour ago15:06
BrainstormUpdates for La Paz, Bolivia: +2494 cases (now 5376), +38 deaths (now 114) since a day ago — Andhra Pradesh, India: +1933 cases (now 29168), +19 deaths (now 328) since 8 hours ago — Bihar, India: +932 cases (now 16305) since 8 hours ago — Altay, Russia: +652 cases (now 5361) since a day ago15:21
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Israelis protest over Netanyahu's handling of economy during Covid-19 outbreak – video: Huge crowds of people have demonstrated in Tel Aviv against the Israeli prime minister. Unemployment has increased to 21% since the country went into partial lockdown in March and aid packages promised by the government have been slow to [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/ZC1J0f15:25
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Mental health: Fifth of vulnerable people considered self-harm in UK lockdown → https://is.gd/pZdSpe15:35
BrainstormUpdates for India: +1582 cases (now 856062), +44 deaths (now 22762) since an hour ago — World: +1584 cases (now 12.9 million), +44 deaths (now 568981) since 18 minutes ago — North Sulawesi, Indonesia: +23 cases (now 1660), +3 deaths (now 103) since 16 minutes ago — North Maluku, Indonesia: +8 cases (now 1130), +4 deaths (now 38) since 16 minutes ago15:36
CoronaBot_04/r/coronavirus: ‘The US state of Arizona, is currently registering as many new cases of coronavirus as the entire European Union, which has a population 60 times greater.’ (10215 votes) | https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-53337483 | https://redd.it/hpshk715:53
BrainstormNew from The Indian Express: World: With masks and gel, Spaniards vote amid new coronavirus outbreaks → https://is.gd/xBkTvM15:54
BrainstormUpdates for World: +1916 cases (now 12.9 million), +31 deaths (now 569012) since 39 minutes ago — Brazil: +1315 cases (now 1.8 million), +23 deaths (now 71515) since 13 hours ago — Azerbaijan: +520 cases (now 24041), +8 deaths (now 306) since a day ago — South Sulawesi, Indonesia: +173 cases (now 6973), +6 deaths (now 223) since 46 minutes ago16:06
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Mueller castigates Trump's decision to commute Roger Stone's sentence – live: Mueller breaks silence and condemns Trump for commuting sentence Sign up to our First Thing newsletter Global coronavirus liveblog: latest updates 2.56pm BST → https://is.gd/fC0bk216:13
BrainstormUpdates for West Bengal, India: +1560 cases (now 30013), +26 deaths (now 932) since 9 hours ago — Maharashtra, India: +7827 cases (now 254427), +173 deaths (now 10289) since 9 hours ago — Maryland, US: +642 cases (now 73109), +9 deaths (now 3319) since 23 hours ago — World: +3208 cases (now 12.9 million), +107 deaths (now 569119) since 31 minutes ago16:21
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Coronavirus live news: 73 test positive in English farm outbreak; Hungary imposes partial visitor ban: More than 70 workers have Covid-19 in Herefordshire cluster; Michael Gove says people should return to work ; Afghanistan says it has reached pandemic peak → https://is.gd/Qipy8b16:42
BrainstormUpdates for World: +12617 cases (now 13.0 million), +26 deaths (now 569145) since 35 minutes ago — India: +10958 cases (now 867020) since an hour ago — Gujarat, India: +879 cases (now 41906), +13 deaths (now 2046) since an hour ago — US: +192 cases (now 3.4 million) since 35 minutes ago16:52
BrainstormNew from Reddit (test): Covid2019: NEW: A Latino family lost a father to COVID-19. The obituary blamed the 'carelessness of politicians.' → https://is.gd/sdJRZ316:52
LjLwhy does it matter they're Latino16:56
BrainstormNew from Reddit (test): Covid2019: DANCE OF THE DRONES: Authorities in South Korea used an eye-popping drone display to raise awareness of coronavirus hygiene practices. → https://is.gd/6lWDo417:02
BrainstormUpdates for Lesotho: +49 cases (now 233), +1 deaths (now 2) since a day ago — Cyprus: +7 cases (now 1021) since 17 hours ago — World: +56 cases (now 13.0 million), +1 deaths (now 569146) since 21 minutes ago — District of Columbia, US: +46 cases (now 10847) since 9 hours ago17:07
BrainstormNew from https://covid19.specops.network *: ljl-covid: Add meta-analysis about social distancing, masks and eye protection → https://is.gd/AwRu1D17:11
BrainstormUpdates for Florida, US: +15300 cases (now 269811), +45 deaths (now 4242) since a day ago — World: +17873 cases (now 13.0 million), +294 deaths (now 569440) since 27 minutes ago — US: +17018 cases (now 3.4 million), +52 deaths (now 137481) since 36 minutes ago — Alabama, US: +1614 cases (now 53561), +7 deaths (now 1121) since 15 hours ago17:22
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus live news: 73 test positive in English farm outbreak; US schools to reopen despite surge in cases → https://is.gd/Qipy8b17:30
BrainstormUpdates for World: +3156 cases (now 13.0 million), +106 deaths (now 569546) since 19 minutes ago — US: +2786 cases (now 3.4 million), +91 deaths (now 137572) since 19 minutes ago — Arizona, US: +2537 cases (now 122467), +86 deaths (now 2237) since 23 hours ago — Uttarakhand, India: +120 cases (now 3537), +1 deaths (now 47) since 10 hours ago17:37
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Mueller castigates Trump's decision to commute Roger Stone's sentence – live: Nancy Pelosi calls commutation a ‘threat to national security’ Mueller breaks silence and condemns Trump for commuting sentence Sign up to our First Thing newsletter Global coronavirus liveblog: latest updates 4.25pm BST → https://is.gd/fC0bk217:40
BrainstormUpdates for World: +6865 cases (now 13.0 million), +106 deaths (now 569652) since 21 minutes ago — India: +4274 cases (now 871499), +95 deaths (now 23078) since 34 minutes ago — US: +1972 cases (now 3.4 million) since 21 minutes ago — North Carolina, US: +1881 cases (now 85701) since 21 hours ago17:52
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus live news:  Florida sees fresh record rise in infections; 73 test positive in English farm outbreak → https://is.gd/Qipy8b17:59
BrainstormUpdates for Karnataka, India: +2627 cases (now 38843), +71 deaths (now 686) since 2 hours ago — World: +5869 cases (now 13.0 million), +80 deaths (now 569732) since 19 minutes ago — Brazil: +4122 cases (now 1.8 million), +69 deaths (now 71584) since 2 hours ago — Santiago, Chile: +2854 cases (now 185861), +684 deaths (now 8595) since 2 days ago18:07
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Mueller castigates Trump's decision to commute Roger Stone's sentence – live: Nancy Pelosi calls commutation a ‘threat to national security’ Mueller breaks silence and condemns Trump for commuting sentence Sign up to our First Thing newsletter Global coronavirus liveblog: latest updates 4.59pm BST → https://is.gd/fC0bk218:09
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus live news:  Florida sees fresh record rise in infections; 73 test positive in English farm outbreak → https://is.gd/Qipy8b18:28
BrainstormUpdates for World: +4370 cases (now 13.0 million), +31 deaths (now 569763) since 33 minutes ago — India: +2317 cases (now 873816), +24 deaths (now 23102) since 49 minutes ago — Telangana, India: +1269 cases (now 34671), +8 deaths (now 356) since 11 hours ago — US: +1234 cases (now 3.4 million), +4 deaths (now 137581) since 33 minutes ago18:37
Jigsy%cases UK18:48
BrainstormJigsy: In United Kingdom, there have been 289603 confirmed cases (0.4% of the population) and 44819 deaths (15.5% of cases) as of an hour ago. 12.0 million tests were performed (2.4% positive). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=United%20Kingdom for time series data.18:48
JigsyWow, 13 million already?18:48
BrainstormUpdates for World: +5243 cases (now 13.0 million), +81 deaths (now 569844) since 19 minutes ago — India: +4675 cases (now 878491), +77 deaths (now 23179) since 19 minutes ago — Israel: +457 cases (now 38670), +4 deaths (now 362) since 7 hours ago — Reunion: +16 cases (now 593) since a day ago18:52
BrainstormNew from Reddit (test): Global COVID Cases For 12JUL20: Summary As Of: 12JUL20 @ 14:55 GMT Countries 214 Cases 12,896,904 Deaths 568,587 Recovered 7,512,787 Countries w/ Active cases w/ No Active cases w/ All cases recovered Countries 214 13 6 Cases 12,895,083 375 1,443 Deaths 568,491 0 96 Recovered 7,305,214 375 1,347 Countries with Active Cases [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/36o4LO19:07
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus live news:  WHO reports record daily rise in infections with 230,000 new global cases → https://is.gd/Qipy8b19:17
BrainstormNew from Ars Technica: Science: The Hagia Sophia is becoming a mosque again. What happens now? → https://is.gd/zFVzXI19:26
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus live news:  WHO reports record daily rise in infections with 230,000 new global cases → https://is.gd/Qipy8b19:36
BrainstormUpdates for World: +6340 cases (now 13.0 million), +83 deaths (now 569927) since 48 minutes ago — US: +4901 cases (now 3.4 million), +50 deaths (now 137631) since 48 minutes ago — Tamil Nadu, India: +4244 cases (now 138470), +68 deaths (now 1966) since 12 hours ago — South Carolina, US: +1949 cases (now 56648), +10 deaths (now 961) since a day ago19:37
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: ‘We’re going to lose a lot of teachers.’ Coronavirus kills beloved Arizona educator → https://is.gd/LGwmp119:46
BrainstormUpdates for Maldives: +67 cases (now 2731) since a day ago — World: +111 cases (now 13.0 million), +7 deaths (now 569934) since 20 minutes ago — Jharkhand, India: +80 cases (now 3760), +7 deaths (now 31) since 4 hours ago — Eswatini: +40 cases (now 1351), +2 deaths (now 20) since 22 hours ago19:52
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus live news:  WHO reports record daily rise in infections with 230,000 new global cases → https://is.gd/Qipy8b19:55
Jigsyhttps://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jul/12/immunity-to-covid-19-could-be-lost-in-months-uk-study-suggests20:10
Jigsy%title20:10
BrainstormJigsy: From www.theguardian.com: Immunity to Covid-19 could be lost in months, UK study suggests | World news | The Guardian20:11
nixonixthe smallest number of months for immunity to last, that i have seen in headlines, was 2 months. a few had it 3 months20:12
nixonixbut when not single confirmed reinfections yet, i suppose it will be at least several months for most. like 8-12 or possibly more, neutralizing immunity. then partial immunity, with milder symptoms from reinfection, much longer20:18
CoronaBot_04/r/covid19: COVID-19 severity is predicted by earlier evidence of accelerated aging (80 votes) | https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.07.10.20147777v1 | https://redd.it/hptvlo20:20
LjLnixonix, it's kind of hard to confirm reinfection though. it can "always" be just a long infection, there's people here still testing positive after more than 100 days20:20
BrainstormUpdates for World: +5707 cases (now 13.0 million), +124 deaths (now 570058) since 40 minutes ago — Algeria: +483 cases (now 19195), +7 deaths (now 1011) since a day ago — Chile: +3012 cases (now 315041), +98 deaths (now 6979) since 23 hours ago — Ohio, US: +1362 cases (now 65592), +17 deaths (now 3058) since 23 hours ago20:23
nixonixyes pcr tests can show false positives from fragments. but no single confirmed reinfection yet, so that means they are not very common with within the timescale of 4-5 months, or there would be some already. it doesnt mean they are non-existant, but i didnt bother to write that above20:27
LjLhow would you proceed to confirm reinfection as opposed to assuming that the person never really stopped being positive, which seems to have been the assumption so far, even with people who went + - +?20:29
nixonixit might require cell culture in bsl-3 lab to be sure, if done fullfilling all standards and requirements20:31
nixonixand that period, where the patient would be confirmed not to have infection anymore, full confirmation is impossible, because you wouldnt necessarily catch the viable virus even if it was there. but i dont think there is one single cases, where there is enough days from original infection to be unlikely infection (unless hiding in nerveous system or something), and then afterwards confirmed infection20:34
nixonixso there isnt one case of "almost confirmed" reinfections either20:35
tinwhiskersTo be certain it isn't a resurgence of latent infection (like chicken pox -> shingles) I think you'd need to sequence it.20:36
nixonixwould sequencing reveal it, so the virus always mutates so that when it transmits from person to person, there is always some little change?20:37
BrainstormUpdates for World: +924 cases (now 13.0 million), +6 deaths (now 570064) since 23 minutes ago — California, US: +819 cases (now 320804) since 6 hours ago — US: +819 cases (now 3.4 million) since 23 minutes ago — Malawi: +103 cases (now 2364), +5 deaths (now 38) since 23 hours ago20:38
tinwhiskersWell, *if* you sequenced two different variants you could conclude it was a reinfection. 20:39
tinwhiskersI think it's pretty likely there would be a difference but not necessarily.20:40
nixonixhow many identified variations there is currently, including all non-conserved areas?20:44
tinwhiskersI guess tens of thousands by now20:45
nixonixany links on subject?20:46
tinwhiskersCheck nextstrain20:46
tinwhiskers(I'm on a phone)20:46
tinwhiskersBut also note that the numbers of variants is largely limited by the number of sequences being taken, not the actual number of variants in the wild. I wonder if they have that comparison on nextstrain...20:48
tinwhiskersUnique variants v.s. total sequences taken.20:48
nixonixyes, thats why i included the word "identified"20:48
tinwhiskersRight :-)20:48
nixonixthey have only around 3400 samples (nextstrain). but ill google about diversity later20:51
tinwhiskersOh, only 3049 sequences20:51
tinwhiskersErr 340920:52
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LjLhow expensive is sequencing?21:01
tinwhiskersI don't imagine it's very expensive once you have the equipment but I have no idea really. I wonder how many labs have equipment that can even do an entire virus genome sequence.21:04
nixonixand is bsl-3 required for that too? (cost and time prob depends how accurately its done)21:04
tinwhiskersI guess so21:05
nixonixwe should find information like that somewhere. ill make some googling some day21:05
tinwhiskersYeah, would be interesting to know21:06
tinwhiskersStill, in saying all of that, we don't have any evidence of latent infection so if someone has tested clear then later tests positive I think Occam's razor says reinfection.21:07
nixonixit seems bsl-3 is required, but bsl-2 labs with extra protection have also been used, at least in china21:12
tinwhiskersAh21:13
tinwhiskersIn wuhan by any chance? ;-)21:14
nixonixi dont know, just some chinese paper mentioned those, but i didnt see it mentioned, where it happened21:19
nixonixsterilizing* immunity (not neutralizing - is what i was supposed to write, a bit earlier above)21:30
ryoumaone source says they are synonyms21:33
nixonixthat might perhaps be acchievable with astranzeneca/oxford vaxx with two doses, when they only used one with the monkeys, and phase 1 for humans21:35
nixonixah ok, nice to know, i usually use neutralising by accident21:36
nixonixbut: "Currently, two doses are being evaluated in a small number of participants."21:36
nixonixhttps://www.pharmaceutical-technology.com/news/oxford-vaccine-response-pigs-study/21:36
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LjL<tinwhiskers> Still, in saying all of that, we don't have any evidence of latent infection so if someone has tested clear then later tests positive I think Occam's razor says reinfection. ← well i think that has happened, although i don't have specific cases in mind right now, but when it's happened the take on occam's razor so far has been that the negative test was just a false negative and they were still infected. so that's all i'm saying... we'l22:10
LjLl hardly ever "prove" reinfection if the default is assuming they were infected all along22:10
tinwhiskersah, yeah, could just be bad tests22:10
tinwhiskersyou do have some clinical signs as a guide as well though22:11
tinwhiskerswe know that some people don't develop long lasting antibodies and we know that in those that do develop antibodies to other coronaviruses that they decline rapidly in some people. Reinfection is overwhelmingly likely to occur in some minority of people.22:12
tinwhiskersI mean, we can be certain it will occur. The only question is hoe common that is.22:13
tinwhiskersand what period it occurs over22:13
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xkwisitis it possible that the virus is simply exploiting our weakness? Since the 1900's we have moved to a much lower quality lifesytle, in terms of food, phyical excercise and mental health. Maybe this is a wake up call to start living better. Who knows maybe covid19 wouldnt have affected humans 500 years ago?22:32
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tinwhiskersxkwisit: well, in that all viruses exploit our weaknesses, yes. But it's unlikely people living 500 years ago would have been more immune.22:42
darsieFewer smokers, fewer old people, I guess.22:43
darsieFewer travel.22:44
darsieless travel*22:44
tinwhiskersactually, given the short lifetimes of people 500 years ago and the over-representation of this virus affecting old people, the proportion of people affected may have been lower.22:44
tinwhiskersbut age for age, probably not a lot different22:44
tinwhiskerswas there less smokers 500 years ago? interesting question.22:45
tinwhiskersabout 1 in 7 smoke now (globally)22:45
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NoImNotNineVoltthen there are definitely more smokers now.22:59
NoImNotNineVoltsince the global population was considerably smaller 500 years ago.22:59
NoImNotNineVolteven if literally everyone was a smoker back then, that wouldn't amount to 1/7 of the current global population.23:00
NoImNotNineVoltthat being said, wasn't there a study out of france a few months ago showing that smokers were less likely to be hospitalized, and more likely to be released sooner?23:01
NoImNotNineVolt"Nicotine appears to play a protective role against the coronavirus as it influences virus molecules from attaching to receptors in the body, according to a recent French study which has prompted researchers to start trials of providing nicotine patches to patients, front-line workers, and citizens."23:01
NoImNotNineVoltetc23:01
NoImNotNineVoltof course, i doubt that panned out, but still :P23:01
NoImNotNineVolthttps://www.who.int/news-room/commentaries/detail/smoking-and-covid-1923:02
ryoumaare niacinamide or niacin of any relevance?23:02
tinwhiskersNoImNotNineVolt: well, of course I mean proportionally23:03
NoImNotNineVoltAt the time of this review, the available evidence suggests that smoking is associated with increased severity of disease and death in hospitalized COVID-19 patients. Although likely related to severity, there is no evidence to quantify the risk to smokers of hospitalization with COVID-19 or of infection by SARS-CoV-2 was found in the peer-reviewed literature. Population-based studies are needed23:03
NoImNotNineVolt to address these questions.23:03
NoImNotNineVoltso this meta analsis suggests the french study was an outlier, i guess23:03
NoImNotNineVolt+spelling23:04
NoImNotNineVolthttps://www.news-medical.net/news/20200615/An-inverse-relationship-between-smoking-and-COVID-19.aspx23:04
NoImNotNineVoltthere you have the opposite, it seems.23:04
NoImNotNineVolti think the moral of the story is... smoke em if ya got em.23:05
nixonixryouma: you asked that already. april 23/24th :) no, i dont know, either i havent looked at it yet, or i didnt find anything relevant enough23:06
ryoumathanks :)23:07
nixonixniacin might cause gout to some people, and sensitivity to it seems to have protective effect for alzheimers disease. so maybe theres something related to uric acid and sars-223:11
nixonixwhether its protective or a risk factor, or nothing, no idea23:11
nixonixuric acid is an antioxidant, so niacin may well have some effect, like for oxidative stress23:13
nixonix"Uric acid also increases IL-1β, IL-2, IL-6, and TNF-α"23:15
nixonix"Monosodium Urate crystals induce Neutrophils to form Neutrophil Extracellular Traps (NETs), associated with severe COVID-19. Uric Acid level could help to explain risk factors for severe COVID-19, such as Kidney disease and Diabetes. African Americans are more at risk for Gout and Covid-19"23:16
nixonixso maybe gout is a risk factor? whether caused by excess niacin or not?23:16
NoImNotNineVoltmy blood triglycerides were just ">400mg/dL". literally off the charts.23:20
nixonixhere is something about niacin deficiency and sars-2 (but i would take it with a salt, and confirm claims from reputable sources): https://mcwhealthcare.com/study-suggests-niacin-should-be-used-as-soon-as-coughing-begins/23:21
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nixonixthis is published in nature, but not sure if you still should take all the claims without salt. short niacin comment refers to a japanese study on hamster lungs, but claims "several":23:24
nixonix"various studies have shown that in animal models with bleomycin-induced lung injury, vitamin B3 (niacin or nicotinamide) is highly effective in preventing lung tissue damage [7]. It might be a wise approach to supply this food supplement to the COVID-19 patients" https://www.nature.com/articles/s41418-020-0530-323:25
nixonixmarch 23. title: COVID-19 infection: the perspectives on immune responses23:26
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