libera/##covid-19/ Friday, 2020-07-24

BrainstormUpdates for World: +66146 cases (now 15.7 million), +1606 deaths (now 635645) since an hour ago — Brazil: +45081 cases (now 2.3 million), +1046 deaths (now 84082) since 5 hours ago — US: +11230 cases (now 4.2 million), +182 deaths (now 147200) since an hour ago — Colombia: +7945 cases (now 226373), +315 deaths (now 7688) since 23 hours ago00:06
ReGiStRaSso if a person had COVID before, in that case does any the vaccines (which is still under trials) still necessary for these people?00:18
BrainstormUpdates for Peru: +4546 cases (now 371096), +199 deaths (now 17654) since 21 hours ago — World: +4914 cases (now 15.7 million), +229 deaths (now 635874) since 17 minutes ago — US: +368 cases (now 4.2 million), +30 deaths (now 147230) since 17 minutes ago — Texas, US: +328 cases (now 374885), +10 deaths (now 4703) since 17 minutes ago00:21
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: (news): Vietnam took drastic early action to fight the coronavirus — and has reported zero deaths → https://is.gd/y5h7tR00:33
BrainstormUpdates for Argentina: +6127 cases (now 148027), +85 deaths (now 2702) since 7 hours ago — World: +6319 cases (now 15.7 million), +87 deaths (now 635961) since 16 minutes ago — US: +192 cases (now 4.2 million), +2 deaths (now 147232) since 16 minutes ago — California, US: +103 cases (now 431331), +2 deaths (now 8185) since 16 minutes ago00:36
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: Home-made face masks likely need multiple layers to prevent spread of coronavirus, study says: A home-made face mask likely needs two or three layers of cloth to be effective in preventing the spread of the coronavirus, according to an observational study published in the medical journal Thorax. → https://is.gd/SrFfFk00:42
LjLwell good thing everyone making masks knows that already!00:46
LjLReGiStRaS, that's unknown at this point00:46
LjLwe don't know if the vaccines can give long-term protection either, not for sure00:46
ReGiStRaSwell...hats off to China then. They started WW3 without even needing to launch any missle...LOL00:48
LjLuh00:53
LjLCOVID is not a flu, but also not a war00:54
LjLflawed analogies are flawed00:54
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: (news): Vietnam took drastic early action to fight the coronavirus — and has reported zero deaths → https://is.gd/y5h7tR01:01
LjLhats off to Vietnam then, which acted early and avoided being part of WW301:02
LjL(just as Europe, the US and many other places could have)01:03
BrainstormUpdates for World: +2364 cases (now 15.7 million), +56 deaths (now 636017) since 46 minutes ago — US: +738 cases (now 4.2 million), +18 deaths (now 147250) since 49 minutes ago — Nigeria: +604 cases (now 38948), +20 deaths (now 833) since a day ago — Bahamas: +55 cases (now 274) since 23 hours ago01:21
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Coronavirus live news: US cases pass 4m: Country has world’s highest total , followed by Brazil with 2.23m cases, as the global death toll passes 625,000 → https://is.gd/12DPW001:40
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Australia news: Coronavirus live update Australia: Morrison to discuss Melbourne Covid-19 outbreak in national cabinet meeting → https://is.gd/q1QV4a01:49
spunkmany compartementstored are closing in my town, and a big amazon-warehouse is opening soon. we all know that this will happen sooner or later, thanks to covid-19 its rushing now01:54
spunkmy hometown is becoming a ghosttown :(01:56
CoronaBot04/r/coronavirus: If you can’t wear a mask due to “medical” reasons, airlines are now telling these passengers to find alternate travel arrangements. (10117 votes) | https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/23/american-southwest-say-medical-exemptions-cant-be-used-to-avoid-masks.html | https://redd.it/hwoez002:12
LjLi'm not sure i can get behind that02:12
LjLor the quotation marks that imply all those reasons are bogus02:12
LjL"anyone over the age of two must wear a mask while flying"02:13
LjLhahahahahaha sure you'll get three year olds to wear masks02:13
bin_bashLjL: yes the implication is that all the excuses are BS02:13
LjLsometimes humans can only work in extremes02:16
LjLand Americans extremely so02:16
bin_bashtbh there isnt a good reason for someoen to be flying without a mask02:17
spunkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqsLcSNvXNA02:18
spunkLOL02:18
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Coronavirus live news: US cases top 4m as WHO chief chides Pompeo for 'untrue' claims: US Secretary of State’s reported comments ‘untrue, unacceptable and without foundation’ says WHO ; Trump cancels Jacksonville RNC ; Bolsonaro not distancing despite positive test . Follow the latest updates → https://is.gd/gDzxbT02:18
LjLGoogle released the source code to the contact tracing API (the internals), anyone interested with coding abilities can help CoraLibre, microG or both implement them  https://github.com/CoraLibre/CoraLibre-android-sdk/issues/3202:22
BrainstormUpdates for World: +6791 cases (now 15.7 million), +180 deaths (now 636197) since an hour ago — Venezuela: +449 cases (now 13613), +5 deaths (now 129) since 20 hours ago — US: +3573 cases (now 4.2 million), +47 deaths (now 147297) since an hour ago — Brazil: +2476 cases (now 2.3 million), +125 deaths (now 84207) since 2 hours ago02:36
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: (news): Vietnam took drastic early action to fight the coronavirus — and has reported zero deaths → https://is.gd/y5h7tR02:54
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: (news): WHO warns there's no going back to 'old normal' as coronavirus accelerates in three countries → https://is.gd/4bpunj03:14
strikedid all the matrix gateways just drop and then reconnect lol03:19
strike%cases USA03:20
Brainstormstrike: In US, there have been 4.2 million confirmed cases (1.3% of the population) and 147333 deaths (3.5% of cases) as of 21 minutes ago. 51.6 million tests were performed (8.1% positive). Fatality can be broadly expected to lie between 0.6% (assuming prevalence as in tests) and less than 6.9% (considering only deaths and recoveries). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=US for time series data.03:20
BrainstormUpdates for Mexico: +8438 cases (now 370712), +718 deaths (now 41908) since 21 hours ago — World: +10286 cases (now 15.7 million), +782 deaths (now 636979) since 50 minutes ago — Panama: +911 cases (now 56817), +29 deaths (now 1209) since a day ago — US: +838 cases (now 4.2 million), +36 deaths (now 147333) since 50 minutes ago03:22
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Australia news: Coronavirus Australia live news: premier Dan Andrews to give update on Victoria as NSW reports seven new Covid-19 cases → https://is.gd/q1QV4a03:23
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: (news): Coronavirus live updates: U.S. cases surpass 4 million; GOP convention cancelled in Florida → https://is.gd/IO5b7d03:53
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Australia news: Coronavirus Australia live update: Victoria premier Daniel Andrews announces 300 new Covid-19 cases and six deaths → https://is.gd/q1QV4a04:12
BrainstormUpdates for World: +1465 cases (now 15.7 million), +86 deaths (now 637065) since an hour ago — Bolivia: +1117 cases (now 65252), +79 deaths (now 2407) since 22 hours ago — Australia: +293 cases (now 13595), +6 deaths (now 139) since 22 hours ago — Turks and Caicos: +8 cases (now 90) since a day ago04:37
BrainstormUpdates for Belize: +4 cases (now 47) since a day ago — Papua New Guinea: +1 cases (now 31) since 21 hours ago04:52
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Coronavirus live news: US cases top 4m as WHO chief chides Pompeo for 'untrue' claims: US Secretary of State’s reported comments ‘untrue, unacceptable and without foundation’ says WHO ; Trump cancels Jacksonville RNC ; Bolsonaro not distancing despite positive test . Follow the latest updates → https://is.gd/gDzxbT06:57
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Australia news: Coronavirus Australia live update: Victoria records 300 new Covid-19 cases and six deaths – latest news → https://is.gd/q1QV4a07:16
CoronaBot04/r/coronavirus: Passengers Clap as Woman Kicked off Flight for Refusing to Wear Face Mask (10023 votes) | https://www.newsweek.com/american-airlines-face-masks-1519963 | https://redd.it/hwo5qe07:19
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: (news): 'I don't know exactly what the secret is': Zoom's marketing chief on the company's rise through the pandemic → https://is.gd/MyJoXG07:26
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Australia news: Coronavirus Australia live update: Victoria records 300 new Covid-19 cases and six deaths – latest news → https://is.gd/q1QV4a07:35
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Australia’s Covid-19 lockdown rules and coronavirus restrictions explained: how far can I travel, and can I have people over?: What are the restrictions within Victoria and the border closures with NSW and other states? What are the interstate travel restrictions, how many people can you have over at your house and what other [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/Pj0jd807:45
BrainstormUpdates for Japan: +978 cases (now 28114), +2 deaths (now 992) since a day ago — World: +8565 cases (now 15.7 million), +139 deaths (now 637204) since 3 hours ago — Kazakhstan: +1687 cases (now 78486) since a day ago — Pakistan: +1209 cases (now 270400), +54 deaths (now 5763) since a day ago07:52
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: (news): Coronavirus live updates: U.S. cases surpass 4 million; GOP convention cancelled in Florida → https://is.gd/IO5b7d07:55
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Coronavirus live news: US cases top 4m as WHO chief chides Pompeo for 'untrue' claims: US Secretary of State’s reported comments ‘untrue, unacceptable and without foundation’ says WHO ; Trump cancels Jacksonville RNC ; Bolsonaro not distancing despite positive test . Follow the latest updates → https://is.gd/gDzxbT08:05
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Australia news: Coronavirus Australia live update: Tasmania announces 'travel bubble' with SA, WA and NT as Victoria records 300 new Covid-19 cases → https://is.gd/q1QV4a08:34
BrainstormUpdates for Andhra Pradesh, India: +7998 cases (now 72711), +61 deaths (now 884) since a day ago — Assam, India: +2019 cases (now 28791), +6 deaths (now 70) since a day ago — Sao Paulo, Brazil: +12561 cases (now 452007), +362 deaths (now 20894) since a day ago — Kerala, India: +1078 cases (now 16110), +5 deaths (now 50) since a day ago08:37
BrainstormNew from BBC Health: More people in England to be offered flu vaccine: About 30 million people - including everyone over the age of 50 - will be able to have the vaccine. → https://is.gd/WPDLHY08:53
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Australia news: Coronavirus Australia live update: Tasmania announces 'travel bubble' with SA, WA and NT as Victoria records 300 new Covid-19 cases → https://is.gd/q1QV4a09:12
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: "Like I won the lottery" | Father of two comes home after 11 days fighting COVID in ICU → https://is.gd/aeEkQY09:32
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus live news: Bolsonaro criticised for lack of distancing despite positive test; US cases top 4m → https://is.gd/gDzxbT09:41
BrainstormUpdates for World: +8775 cases (now 15.7 million), +185 deaths (now 637396) since an hour ago — Russia: +5811 cases (now 800849), +154 deaths (now 13046) since 23 hours ago — India: +2154 cases (now 1.3 million), +12 deaths (now 30657) since 12 hours ago — Armenia: +451 cases (now 36613), +4 deaths (now 692) since 23 hours ago09:53
BrainstormNew from BBC Health: (news): Coronavirus: New face covering rules come into force in England → https://is.gd/pMHfme10:10
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Australia news: Coronavirus Australia live update: Tasmania announces 'travel bubble' with SA, WA and NT as Victoria records 300 new Covid-19 cases → https://is.gd/q1QV4a10:39
BrainstormNew from BBC Health: (news): Coronavirus: New face covering rules come into force in England → https://is.gd/pMHfme10:49
BrainstormUpdates for World: +2995 cases (now 15.7 million), +37 deaths (now 637433) since an hour ago — Bangladesh: +2548 cases (now 218658), +35 deaths (now 2836) since a day ago — US: +283 cases (now 4.2 million) since 7 hours ago — Iowa, US: +143 cases (now 40796) since 7 hours ago10:53
BrainstormNew from StatNews: First Opinion: Opinion: A pandemic ethical conundrum: Must health care workers risk their lives to treat Covid-19 patients? → https://is.gd/Atr2BM10:59
BrainstormUpdates for Poland: +458 cases (now 42038), +4 deaths (now 1655) since a day ago — World: +3089 cases (now 15.7 million), +16 deaths (now 637449) since 20 minutes ago — Philippines: +2054 cases (now 76444), +8 deaths (now 1879) since 23 hours ago — Israel: +577 cases (now 58559), +4 deaths (now 446) since 11 hours ago11:08
BrainstormNew from BBC Health: (news): Coronavirus: New face covering rules come into force in England → https://is.gd/pMHfme11:09
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus live news: Belgium halts lockdown easing; Bolsonaro breaches distancing rules despite positive test → https://is.gd/gDzxbT11:28
BrainstormNew from BBC Health: (news): Coronavirus: New face covering rules come into force in England → https://is.gd/pMHfme11:48
BrainstormUpdates for Puerto Rico: +1410 cases (now 13473), +3 deaths (now 188) since 23 hours ago — World: +2517 cases (now 15.7 million), +97 deaths (now 637546) since 50 minutes ago — Indonesia: +1761 cases (now 95418), +89 deaths (now 4665) since a day ago — Ghana: +694 cases (now 30366) since a day ago11:53
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: UK's Boris Johnson calls anti-vaxxers 'nuts': His comments come as pharmaceutical and biotech companies around the world embark on early stage testing for potential coronavirus vaccines. → https://is.gd/ymXGOO11:57
BrainstormUpdates for Hong Kong: +123 cases (now 2373), +1 deaths (now 16) since 22 hours ago — World: +128 cases (now 15.8 million), +1 deaths (now 637547) since 23 minutes ago — US: +5 cases (now 4.2 million) since 23 minutes ago12:08
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Business: UK business activity grows at fastest pace in five years after lockdown eased - business live → https://is.gd/lZ4w0I12:17
BrainstormUpdates for Romania: +1119 cases (now 42394), +24 deaths (now 2150) since a day ago — World: +1499 cases (now 15.8 million), +28 deaths (now 637575) since 23 minutes ago — Palestine: +349 cases (now 10093), +3 deaths (now 70) since 19 hours ago — Malaysia: +21 cases (now 8861) since a day ago12:23
BrainstormNew from BBC Health: (news): Coronavirus: New face covering rules come into force in England → https://is.gd/pMHfme12:26
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Coronavirus outbreak: UK coronavirus live: face masks become compulsory in England's shops and takeaways → https://is.gd/PQgWcq12:36
BrainstormUpdates for Switzerland: +154 cases (now 34154), +2 deaths (now 1977) since 19 hours ago — World: +164 cases (now 15.8 million), +3 deaths (now 637578) since 20 minutes ago — Sri Lanka: +10 cases (now 2763) since 19 hours ago — Kansas, US: +1 deaths (now 323) since 15 hours ago12:38
BrainstormUpdates for World: +3954 cases (now 15.8 million), +228 deaths (now 637806) since 21 minutes ago — Iran: +2489 cases (now 286523), +215 deaths (now 15289) since a day ago — Senegal: +156 cases (now 9422), +4 deaths (now 182) since a day ago — Oman: +1145 cases (now 73791), +4 deaths (now 359) since a day ago12:53
BrainstormNew from Lombardia Provvedimenti: Anticipo Pac, Rolfi: 160 milioni a oltre 15.000 aziende agricole lombarde: Anticipo Pac in Lombardia, il commento dell’assessore: liquidità straordinaria in momento di maggior bisogno, promessa mantenuta → https://is.gd/nVrWDc12:55
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus live news: Belgium halts lockdown easing; Bolsonaro breaches distancing rules despite positive test → https://is.gd/gDzxbT13:05
BrainstormUpdates for World: +3074 cases (now 15.8 million), +24 deaths (now 637830) since 22 minutes ago — India: +1925 cases (now 1.3 million), +3 deaths (now 30660) since 3 hours ago — Madagascar: +360 cases (now 8741), +6 deaths (now 76) since 23 hours ago — United Arab Emirates: +261 cases (now 58249), +1 deaths (now 343) since a day ago13:08
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Five escape managed isolation facility in New Zealand. One still at large. → https://is.gd/hNoXdm13:15
BrainstormUpdates for Botswana: +94 cases (now 686) since 10 hours ago — World: +280 cases (now 15.8 million), +1 deaths (now 637831) since 20 minutes ago — Nepal: +133 cases (now 18374), +1 deaths (now 44) since a day ago — Seychelles: +6 cases (now 114) since 7 days ago13:23
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Coronavirus outbreak: UK coronavirus live: face masks become compulsory in England's shops and takeaways → https://is.gd/PQgWcq13:25
BrainstormUpdates for El Salvador: +415 cases (now 13792) since 5 hours ago — World: +418 cases (now 15.8 million), +1 deaths (now 637832) since 21 minutes ago — Germany: +3 cases (now 205145) since 15 hours ago — Finland: +1 deaths (now 329) since an hour ago13:38
CoronaBot04/r/coronavirus: Doctor Runs 22 Miles Wearing Face Mask to Show it Doesn't Cut Oxygen Levels (10203 votes) | https://www.newsweek.com/masks-covid-19-doctor-oxygen-1520060 | https://redd.it/hwt4ny13:51
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Business: UK business activity grows at fastest pace in five years after lockdown eased - business live → https://is.gd/lZ4w0I13:54
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus live news: Belgium halts lockdown easing; Bolsonaro breaches distancing rules despite positive test → https://is.gd/gDzxbT14:03
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: (news): Coronavirus live updates: WTO sees 'substantial' trade impact; U.S. cases jump by more than 68,000 → https://is.gd/B6X0Xu14:13
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: Op-ed: How to make your business public health ready in a coronavirus world: The ongoing pandemic has laid bare to the business community that a healthy enterprise depends on having healthy workers and healthy customers. → https://is.gd/n2f2PY14:33
BrainstormUpdates for World: +732 cases (now 15.8 million), +15 deaths (now 637847) since an hour ago — Bosnia and Herz.: +305 cases (now 9767), +6 deaths (now 280) since a day ago — Iowa, US: +165 cases (now 40961) since 3 hours ago — US: +165 cases (now 4.2 million) since 2 hours ago14:39
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: (news): Coronavirus live updates: WTO sees 'substantial' trade impact; U.S. cases jump by more than 68,000 → https://is.gd/B6X0Xu14:42
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Coronavirus outbreak: UK coronavirus live: face masks become compulsory in England's shops and takeaways → https://is.gd/PQgWcq14:52
CoronaBot04/r/covid19: SARS-CoV-2 infection induces sustained humoral immune responses in convalescent patients following symptomatic COVID-19 (83 votes) | https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.07.21.20159178v1 | https://redd.it/hwzmvi15:10
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Biden predicts Trump will try to 'steal the election' by fighting mail-in voting – live: Ice’s ex-acting head: Trump is using federal agents as his ‘goon squad’ Chad Wolf: the Trump official leading the crackdown in Portland DoJ to investigate federal forces’ tactics in US cities Florida hospitals stretched to capacity [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/WB0V4I15:11
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: FDA expands hand sanitizer recall to at least 75 brands across the U.S.: The Food and Drug Administration has expanded the list of hand sanitizers — some sold at Walmart, Costco and other national chains — being recalled to at least 75 recently, saying toxic levels of wood alcohol in them can cause injury or death. → https://is.gd/a5bOam15:31
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Coronavirus outbreak: UK coronavirus live: face masks become compulsory in England's shops and takeaways → https://is.gd/PQgWcq15:41
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: (news): Coronavirus live updates: WTO sees 'substantial' trade impact; U.S. cases jump by more than 68,000 → https://is.gd/B6X0Xu16:00
BrainstormUpdates for World: +34438 cases (now 15.8 million), +411 deaths (now 638258) since an hour ago — India: +20342 cases (now 1.3 million), +161 deaths (now 30821) since 3 hours ago — Virginia, US: +1127 cases (now 82364), +13 deaths (now 2067) since 23 hours ago — Maryland, US: +930 cases (now 81766), +13 deaths (now 3422) since 23 hours ago16:24
classicRedyou know things are bad when you're back in irc16:27
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Coronavirus live news: Spain says it may be experiencing second wave; Belgium halts lockdown easing: Spanish officials warn new wave could already be there ; Bolsonaro ignores distancing despite positive test ; Belgian rise in cases largely among young adults → https://is.gd/gDzxbT16:48
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: (news): Coronavirus live updates: WTO sees 'substantial' trade impact; U.S. cases jump by more than 68,000 → https://is.gd/B6X0Xu16:58
lesmo%cases Mexico17:14
Brainstormlesmo: In Mexico, there have been 370712 confirmed cases (0.3% of the population) and 41908 deaths (11.3% of cases) as of 14 hours ago. 879608 tests were performed (42.1% positive). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=Mexico for time series data.17:14
CoronaBot04/r/coronavirus: Boris Johnson says 'anti-vaxxers are nuts' (10747 votes) | https://www.theguardian.com/society/2020/jul/24/boris-johnson-says-anti-vaxxers-are-nuts-free-winter-flu-jabs | https://redd.it/hwz1rx17:16
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Biden predicts Trump will try to 'steal the election' by fighting mail-in voting – live: Ice’s ex-acting head: Trump is using federal agents as his ‘goon squad’ Chad Wolf: the Trump official leading the crackdown in Portland Florida hospitals stretched to capacity by outbreak → https://is.gd/WB0V4I17:27
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: UK coronavirus live: ONS says cases in England potentially rising as face masks rules change: UK death toll rises by 138 to 45,677 ; ONS figures suggest cases in England stable or possibly rising ; police will have power to enforce mask rules in England → https://is.gd/PQgWcq17:47
kreyrenCzechia is slowly getting overwhelmed by covid-19 due to (allegedly) terrible decision made by CZ government that caused a 2nd wave of covid-1917:47
kreyren%cases czechia17:47
Brainstormkreyren: In Czechia, there have been 14800 confirmed cases (0.1% of the population) and 365 deaths (2.5% of cases) as of 16 hours ago. 645093 tests were performed (2.3% positive). Fatality can be broadly expected to lie between 0.1% (assuming prevalence as in tests) and less than 3.8% (considering only deaths and recoveries). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=Czechia for time series data.17:47
CoronaBot04/r/covid19: Vitamin D Sufficiency Reduced Risk for Morbidity and Mortality in COVID-19 Patients (80 votes) | https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3616008 | https://redd.it/hx2le917:59
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: Homemade face masks likely need multiple layers to prevent spread of coronavirus, study says: A homemade face mask likely needs two or three layers of cloth to be effective in preventing the spread of the coronavirus, according to an observational study published in the medical journal Thorax. → https://is.gd/SrFfFk18:06
BrainstormUpdates for World: +48695 cases (now 15.8 million), +940 deaths (now 639198) since an hour ago — US: +21550 cases (now 4.2 million), +272 deaths (now 147667) since an hour ago — Florida, US: +12444 cases (now 402312), +133 deaths (now 5653) since a day ago — Brazil: +11375 cases (now 2.3 million), +189 deaths (now 84440) since an hour ago18:09
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: 'The masks are everywhere today' – England's shoppers finally cover up: A week ago few would have worn a face covering, on Friday most shoppers in Devizes or Stratford followed the rules → https://is.gd/5xc3wa18:16
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: UK coronavirus live: Boris Johnson admits government could have handled crisis differently in early months: PM says government did not understand Covid-19 in early weeks; UK death toll rises by 138 to 45,677 ; ONS figures suggest cases in England stable or possibly rising → https://is.gd/PQgWcq18:35
nixonixthose multi-title guardian links suck. they point to those latest short virus news collections, that have multiple pages, where you may or may not found some short piece of text that refers to something in title that got your attention18:38
nixonixsimilarly cnn short news collections suck (you cant get the link to just that particular news story within them)18:39
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Coronavirus live news: Spain says it may be experiencing second wave; Belgium halts lockdown easing: Spanish officials warn new wave could already be there ; Bolsonaro ignores distancing despite positive test ; Belgian rise in cases largely among young adults → https://is.gd/gDzxbT18:45
LjLnixonix, yes they are not great. should i remove them=19:05
LjLi've added statnews on the other hand... i thought i already had it but i didn't... plus there are a few potentially much more interesting scientific sources that even though they have RSS feeds and i've added them, for some reason they never really show up...19:06
LjLdon't know if statnews itself will work19:07
LjLoh, it does, it sent one headline earlier19:07
nixonixno dont remove19:09
nixonixi was just complaining. the same prob with cnn when i want to links something from there19:09
nixonixlink*19:09
LjLnixonix, does cnn have a coronavirus feed? i don't have them in my list19:10
nixonixi dont now. their short news handy to check if something is happening in usa. but they should have links to specific news piece. also theres similar problem if you google something, and those huge collections show up, finding the right piece from the multi-page thread of news19:12
LjLlots of things in news sites are very annoying lately :\19:13
LjLall the stuff that's unavailable in the EU due to the GDPR19:13
LjLall the stuff that requires subscription, if not payment, to read fully19:13
LjLall the stuff with video and audio that starts automatically (although Firefox kills the audio at least)19:14
nixonixyeah, especially tribune and different small news services in usa. some of them you can find through archive.is or web.archive.org, but not all19:14
LjLi kind of blame the GDPR, though. it was overreaching19:15
LjLit's not reasonable to request websites that have 99% of their visitors in America, and are really mainly headquartered in America, to respect an extremely complex-to-implement European law19:16
LjLit just begs for websites to ban the EU19:16
LjLit's a way to have a "European internet", juts done in reverse. it makes it seem like it's the rest of the world banning us, but they have little choice.19:16
nixonixmaybe thats what they want. like why they havent been too eager to teach kids english, in many countries for decades19:18
nixonixbetter that germans just stay in german or perhaps french internet sites19:19
BrainstormUpdates for World: +23119 cases (now 15.9 million), +470 deaths (now 639668) since an hour ago — India: +12000 cases (now 1.3 million), +286 deaths (now 31398) since an hour ago — Morocco: +570 cases (now 18834), +7 deaths (now 299) since 23 hours ago — US: +5613 cases (now 4.2 million), +73 deaths (now 147740) since an hour ago19:25
ArsaneritHighest number of newly diagnosed cases since 6 May in our district.19:25
Arsanerit9.3 cases / 100k / week :(19:26
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Texas governor says Covid-19 not conquered yet; U.S. cases jump by more than 68,000 → https://is.gd/B6X0Xu19:26
BrainstormUpdates for World: +3733 cases (now 15.9 million), +71 deaths (now 639739) since 21 minutes ago — Delaware, US: +278 cases (now 14202), +49 deaths (now 578) since a day ago — Spain: +2255 cases (now 319501), +3 deaths (now 28432) since a day ago — US: +1329 cases (now 4.2 million), +67 deaths (now 147807) since 21 minutes ago19:40
LjLnixonix, a lot of it i think is just that in smaller countries like finland, you subtitle movies and tv, while here we dub everything (same in germany, france, spain...). so you're much more exposed to english19:41
nixonixsubtitles wasnt a big thing i think, because old people did nothing but watched tv, and they never learned much english, before changes in primary education, and over 90% selected english as their first foreign language19:44
LjLhmm19:44
LjLwell english is taught here in primary and secondary, but the teachers are usually terrible19:45
LjLthey don't know english well themselves, and we don't have money to hire good native speakers19:45
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Passengers cheer as woman kicked off American Airlines flight after refusing to wear face mask → https://is.gd/EellDp19:45
nixonixnow with computer games etc kids learn faster, so it has had a big effect i think. especially for the youngest that were born phone in hand19:45
bin_bashit's actually detrimental to have them on devices so young19:46
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Texas governor says Covid-19 not conquered yet; U.S. cases jump by more than 68,000 → https://is.gd/B6X0Xu19:55
jacklswyes, when the kids don't have time to feel bored, they won't think of something creative19:56
jacklswworse if they are fed with retarded contents from the internet nowadays19:56
persia2more like screens - > ADHD is a larger subset 20:06
persia2can't write longhand anymore, peer pressure on asocial media to become kpop fans20:07
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Biden predicts Trump will try to 'steal the election' by fighting mail-in voting – live: Biden: Trump is going to ‘argue that mail-in ballots don’t work’ Ice’s ex-acting head: Trump is using federal agents as his ‘goon squad’ Trump claims bases named for Confederate generals won’t change Florida hospitals [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/WB0V4I20:24
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Texas governor says Covid-19 not conquered yet; U.S. cases jump by more than 68,000 → https://is.gd/B6X0Xu20:44
persia2not yet, Manana20:44
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: Dr. Anthony Fauci says he and his family have been receiving 'serious threats': Known for his candid advice, Fauci has often opposed President Donald Trump in recommending school closures, state lockdowns and the use of face masks. → https://is.gd/frcB6b20:53
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: (news): Dr. Fauci says coronavirus vaccine likely won't be 'widely' available until several months into 2021 → https://is.gd/zTNFy221:03
BrainstormUpdates for South Africa: +13944 cases (now 421996), +250 deaths (now 6343) since 22 hours ago — World: +25667 cases (now 15.9 million), +417 deaths (now 640156) since an hour ago — US: +6919 cases (now 4.2 million), +136 deaths (now 147943) since an hour ago — Chile: +2545 cases (now 341304) since a day ago21:05
BrainstormNew from Scientific American: Coronavirus News Roundup: July 18-July 24: Here are pandemic highlights for the week -- Read more on ScientificAmerican.com → https://is.gd/oQheEm21:13
BrainstormUpdates for Zimbabwe: +172 cases (now 2296), +4 deaths (now 32) since 22 hours ago — World: +964 cases (now 15.9 million), +12 deaths (now 640168) since 16 minutes ago — Costa Rica: +540 cases (now 13669), +7 deaths (now 87) since 18 hours ago — Ivory Coast: +252 cases (now 15253), +1 deaths (now 94) since 22 hours ago21:20
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: DOD is scouting contractors to set up potential mobile coronavirus hospitals in Florida as outbreak worsens: The Army is helping Florida in case it needs to quickly build out more surge capacity at its hospitals as Covid-19 cases continue to rise, seeking contractors who can build temporary facilities with 10 days notice. → https://is.gd/9vVM8V21:23
BrainstormUpdates for World: +3124 cases (now 15.9 million), +57 deaths (now 640225) since 16 minutes ago — US: +2952 cases (now 4.2 million), +57 deaths (now 148000) since 31 minutes ago — Illinois, US: +1599 cases (now 169699), +17 deaths (now 7577) since a day ago — Sao Tome and Principe: +111 cases (now 860) since 18 hours ago21:35
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: (news): Dr. Fauci says coronavirus vaccine likely won't be 'widely' available until several months into 2021 → https://is.gd/zTNFy221:42
BrainstormUpdates for Georgia (US), US: +4813 cases (now 161401), +82 deaths (now 3442) since a day ago — World: +10881 cases (now 15.9 million), +106 deaths (now 640331) since 17 minutes ago — US: +10374 cases (now 4.2 million), +102 deaths (now 148102) since 17 minutes ago — Gabon: +396 cases (now 6984), +2 deaths (now 49) since a day ago21:50
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Texas governor says Covid-19 not conquered yet; U.S. cases jump by more than 68,000 → https://is.gd/B6X0Xu22:01
BrainstormUpdates for World: +1843 cases (now 15.9 million), +111 deaths (now 640442) since 16 minutes ago — US: +1579 cases (now 4.2 million), +34 deaths (now 148136) since 16 minutes ago — Texas, US: +1433 cases (now 378829), +32 deaths (now 4794) since 18 hours ago — Gambia: +46 cases (now 216), +1 deaths (now 6) since 23 hours ago22:05
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus live news: record daily rise in global cases with almost 285,000 new infections → https://is.gd/gDzxbT22:11
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Canada: 'Not safe': Niagara Falls tour boats show US and Canada's different responses to Covid-19 – video → https://is.gd/up0h7622:30
BrainstormUpdates for World: +5823 cases (now 15.9 million), +73 deaths (now 640515) since 31 minutes ago — Connecticut, US: +544 cases (now 48776), +3 deaths (now 4413) since a day ago — US: +4900 cases (now 4.2 million), +43 deaths (now 148179) since 31 minutes ago — California, US: +2820 cases (now 438154), +18 deaths (now 8226) since 46 minutes ago22:35
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: White House says 'schools are essential places of business' in push to reopen – live: Kayleigh McEnany defends Trump’s push to reopen amid pandemic President says he ‘often’ regrets his tweets Ice’s ex-acting head: Trump is using federal agents as his ‘goon squad’ Trump claims bases named for Confederate generals [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/WB0V4I22:40
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus live news: record daily rise in global cases with almost 285,000 new infections → https://is.gd/gDzxbT22:59
BrainstormUpdates for World: +49271 cases (now 16.0 million), +1069 deaths (now 641584) since 31 minutes ago — Peru: +4865 cases (now 375961), +189 deaths (now 17843) since 22 hours ago — Brazil: +39705 cases (now 2.3 million), +798 deaths (now 85238) since 5 hours ago — US: +3951 cases (now 4.2 million), +36 deaths (now 148215) since 31 minutes ago23:05
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: White House says 'schools are essential places of business' in push to reopen – live: Kayleigh McEnany defends Trump’s push to reopen amid pandemic President says he ‘often’ regrets his tweets Ice’s ex-acting head: Trump is using federal agents as his ‘goon squad’ Trump claims bases named for Confederate generals [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/WB0V4I23:09
nixonixwhere there any outbreaks in schools in europe when they reopened?23:14
nixonixin finland or sweden they hadnt (swedish didnt test much though, but i suppose theyd still find something if there was). and i havent seen in news other than in israel they suspected schools23:16
LjLi keep seeing that children are bad carriers... although granted, schools aren't only children23:16
LjLbut i feel that this whole diatribe on schools in the US may be distracting from more serious locking down that needs to happen23:17
nixonixyeah. i read that here medical personnel got infetions usually from each other, not from patients23:17
nixonixif the action isnt early enough, i think some level of lockdowns are prob needed. they just should find out which ones were really effective, which ones didnt matter much23:19
nixonixlike comparing different countries and regions, that had different level measures23:19
LjLi'd say the US is well past "early enough" :P23:20
nixonixwhen most european countries had something that could be called lockdowns i think, sweden and finland didnt. not quite sure of denmark or norway, did they had it mostly like us?23:20
LjLnorway had a harder lockdown, not sure about denmark23:21
LjLdamn23:21
LjLthere was that neat map i saw once... and then always been too lazy to find again23:21
nixonixnorway got it in control quite fast. denmark had some difficulties23:22
LjLi don't remember if it was for europe or worldwide, but it had neat icons for every "type" of restriction and how tightly it was enforced23:22
nixonixourworldindata have those national responses, but they dont really describe the reality. its like ticks, in use or not. not the level of use23:23
nixonixlike we got more ticks just because there were recommendations23:23
nixonixso basically it was mostly people themself deciding what to do and what not. exp schools closed couple months, and bars. and some communal gymbs etc and large gathering restrictions23:24
nixonixbarbers etc open if they felt there was customers, private gyms etc the same23:25
nixonixrecommendations... i dont even know most of them. i never checked23:25
nixonixhttps://ourworldindata.org/grapher/covid-stringency-index23:25
nixonixso how come finland is darker than eg germany? when pretty much everything is back to normal. large inside gatherings will be too in a week23:26
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Texas governor says Covid-19 not conquered yet; U.S. cases jump by more than 68,000 → https://is.gd/B6X0Xu23:29
nixonixthe tighter the lockdown, the faster it happens. but when acting early and select right measures, no need for lockdowns. even barbers, all the stores etc can be open. bars prob not, though. unless its outside23:29
nixonixnow spain is again wasting time, and the more it will hurt23:29
nixonixareal restrictions, not the whole countries this time23:29
nixonixor regional is it..23:29
nixonixhurting economy with unnecessary actions isnt sane, because money is life too23:30
CoronaBot04/r/coronavirus: Fauci tells MarketWatch: I would not get on a plane or eat inside a restaurant (10298 votes) | https://www.marketwatch.com/story/anthony-fauci-tells-marketwatch-i-would-not-get-on-a-plane-or-eat-inside-a-restaurant-2020-07-24 | https://redd.it/hx22mf23:30
nixonixjust read that they dont pay a medicine for a 5 yo kid with spinal muscular atropy, because it costs too much23:32
LjLuhm, it was probably the map in this picture https://frontex.europa.eu/media-centre/news-release/covid-19-restrictions-4IdY3J except the real thing, not a picture23:33
nixonixso he may not walk anymore. the cost would be around 500k for the first year, then around 250k per year23:33
LjLnah it wasn't that one actually23:33
LjLit was something with indeed "recommended" "compulsory" "no" and so, i think23:33
snakeare kn95 good?23:33
nixonixbut i think the evidence for efficacy of that drug isnt that strong. but not sure, i didnt check how it is23:33
LjLbut i grepped my logs a bit and didn't find it :(23:33
LjLsnake, as good as N95, i.e. maybe good, maybe fake23:33
snakei bought 2 things23:34
snakehttps://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B086JD7TKZ/ and https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B0881JSPJN23:34
snakereturning the crap masks with exhale valves23:34
snakeand the 20 filters i bought for it23:34
snakethey're both shipped by amazon23:35
snakedamn23:36
snakethe square filters only filter 2.5 microns23:36
snakehmm23:38
snakeugh23:39
snakethis sucks23:39
snakethey both only work for 2.523:39
snakeok i cancelled it23:40
LjLbah i'll never find that map. i'm finding too many maps on google with icons that look *similar* and may or may not be that map, or a derivative of it. i just don't remember enough of it, except for it having icons for each type of restriction, that were color-coded by severity23:40
SphericalCowjust put a surgical mask on top of your exhale valve mask23:40
LjLand i've found a few of those, mostly based on the reopen.europa.eu map i think23:40
snakeSphericalCow, the virus will just scoot out the sides23:41
snakethis is all pointless23:41
snakewhy cant they just make more ppe for the public23:41
snakelike real n95 masks23:41
LjLsnake, keep in mind when they tell you it filters 95% of 0.3 micron particles, it does *not* mean it doesn't filter smaller particles. in fact, it filters many smaller ones better than by 95%.23:42
LjLsnake, because they are high-technology items to produce, and unlike "general public" masks, they cannot just reconvert *any* industry to produce them 23:42
LjLalso... you bought 20 filters forr the masks with exhale valves? i thought those were single-use masks...?23:43
SphericalCowsnake: N95 masks aren't for that purpose either23:43
SphericalCowthere are different standards of masks used for sterile environments23:43
SphericalCowclean rooms etc23:43
snakeLjL, it was a reusable one23:44
snakebut its shaped horribly23:44
snakemy dad sent it to me23:44
snakehad a bunch of misspellings and shit23:44
snakeidk should i just wear a cloth mask? or wear the cloth mask with the pm2.5 filter?23:47
snakethat's this one: https://smile.amazon.com/Activated-Carbon-Insert-Replaceable-Sheets/dp/B0881JSPJN23:47
snakethose are tiny23:49
pynai got some of these and they seem at least what they claim to be https://www.getkeysmart.com/products/ppe-masks23:49
pynaand i don't mind the donating part23:50
snake"N95 masks actually have that name because they are 95% efficient at stopping particles in their least efficient particle size range — in this case those around 0.3 microns."23:52
snakeok im only going to buy the kn95 actually23:53
LjLsnake, yes hence my comment that it doesn't mean they fail to stop smaller-sized ones. it's just a standard. in theory, with N95 you know you're getting something uniform. in practice, there are fake N95 (and KN95 which are similar in terms of specs) around23:53
LjLsnake, look at reviews, make sure they're genuine23:53
snakeLjL, ok23:53
LjLlook at the brand that made it, google for it23:53
LjL%title https://smartairfilters.com/en/blog/reliable-n95-mask-manufacturers-suppliers/23:54
BrainstormLjL: From smartairfilters.com: How to Find Reliable N95 Mask Suppliers – Smart Air23:54
LjL%title https://smartairfilters.com/en/blog/half-chinese-n95-face-mask-fail-standards-unreliable/?rel=123:54
BrainstormLjL: From smartairfilters.com: Half of Chinese N95 Masks Tested Fail to Meet Standards – Smart Air23:54
snakeLjL, it says ships from and sold by amazon.com23:56
LjLthat's just who's selling it, you need who produces it23:56
LjLit may not be stated, but then, try to find some where it's stated. where they make it a point to link to their certificate, etc23:57
LjLsnake, i think ryouma bough some masks from https://www.moldex.com/ and he's not around now but maybe next time he is he can give some feedback on them23:57
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: White House says 'schools are essential places of business' in push to reopen – live: Kayleigh McEnany defends Trump’s push to reopen amid pandemic President says he ‘often’ regrets his tweets Ice’s ex-acting head: Trump is using federal agents as his ‘goon squad’ Trump claims bases named for Confederate generals [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/WB0V4I23:58
pynaships/sold/amazon is less of a safe bet than it used to. probably fine, but another reason i got the ones i did was not wanting to trust amazon - not that they had anything at all comparable back then23:58
LjLkeep in mind also that a mask that technically respects N95 or similar specs may be worse in practice than one that doesn't but which provides a much better fit23:58
snake i either have corona or phlegm23:59
snakedamn23:59

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