libera/##covid-19/ Monday, 2020-07-27

BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Coronavirus US: polls put Biden ahead of Trump as deaths top 1,000 a day – live: Texas hospital sets up ‘death panel’ as Covid-19 cases surge How Hawaii avoided a spike – but damaged its economy ‘White as hell’: are Portland protests eclipsing BLM? Sign up to our First Thing newsletter 10.49pm BST → https://is.gd/riOAZa00:05
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Coronavirus live news: Brazil's death toll reaches 87,000 as global cases pass 16m: UK imposes quarantine on travellers from Spain ; WHO says 1m cases reported per week for last five weeks ; Florida’s infections overtake New York’s → https://is.gd/bZR92y00:15
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Coronavirus Australia live news: fears over Victorian outbreak after deadliest day – live: Victoria’s health system in crisis after 459 new Covid-19 cases and 10 deaths on Sunday, including seven linked to aged care, as NSW records six new cases linked to Thai Rock restaurant. Follow latest updates → https://is.gd/PoSqOD00:34
LjLwhat the hell https://np.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/hy7cs1/mounting_evidence_shows_masks_may_help_avoid/fzchnc6/00:34
LjLwhat i wrote was00:35
LjLI just get "Sorry, this content is not available in your region".00:35
LjLThis geoblocking stuff because of the GDPR keeps getting worse, and it's a bit depressing that it even applies to being able to read articles about the pandemic.00:35
LjLYes, I know I can probably find the article on archive.org or archive.is, but normally I would promote the article in my community (I run a COVID IRC channel), but when I see just a blank page telling me I can't read this, call it a knee-jerk reaction, but I'm just like "may they get lost then, I'll read something else".00:35
LjLand poof it's gone *because* i mentioned archive.*00:35
LjLabsurd00:35
nixonixit was a bot. trick it00:40
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Coronavirus live news: Brazil's death toll reaches 87,000 as global cases pass 16m: UK imposes quarantine on travellers from Spain ; WHO says 1m cases reported per week for last five weeks ; Florida’s infections overtake New York’s → https://is.gd/bZR92y01:03
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Coronavirus Australia live update: fears over Victoria outbreak after deadliest day – latest news: Victoria’s health system in crisis after 459 new Covid-19 cases and 10 deaths on Sunday, including seven linked to aged care, as NSW records six new cases linked to Thai Rock restaurant. Follow latest updates → https://is.gd/PoSqOD01:22
nixonixreally strange how differently fatalities now follow the rise in identified cases in australia, compared to the spring. somebody should look at australian excess mortality from spring01:42
metreowhat's happening?01:43
metreoIn many western countries the latest rise in younger demographics is resulting in decreasing mortality01:44
metreoalso people are enjoying summer in the northern hemisphere meaning they are outside and generally healthier01:44
nixonixthe rise may not yet show up in fatality numbers, because of delay for deaths. but also, during the first wave, insufficient testing probably missed asymptomatic and mild cases mostly, and they were most often young01:47
nixonixnow when test capacity is increased a lot, and surveillance and contact tracing works better, those mild cases and asymptomatic close contacts become way more often tested01:48
nixonixbut also possibly old people are better protected now. either by themself, or by authorities controlling senior home action, hospital infections etc01:49
metreoSeniors have become strictly isolated by public health measures in most places.01:52
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CountryfiedLinuxWhat's the latest info on the Kung Flu?01:54
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Coronavirus live news: US sees 5,000 deaths in five days as Dr Birx urges some states to close bars: Birx says federal health experts recommend bar closures in Kentucky, Tennessee, Ohio, Indiana and Virginia; Spain’s Covid-19 deaths could be 60% higher ; Global deaths near 650,000. Follow the latest updates → https://is.gd/qXh0d002:01
BrainstormUpdates for Louisiana, US: +3840 cases (now 107574), +43 deaths (now 3763) since 2 days ago — World: +24326 cases (now 16.5 million), +458 deaths (now 652261) since 2 hours ago — Colombia: +8181 cases (now 248976), +256 deaths (now 8525) since a day ago — US: +8231 cases (now 4.4 million), +86 deaths (now 149826) since 2 hours ago02:09
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Coronavirus Australia live update: fears over Victoria outbreak after deadliest day – latest news: Victoria’s health system in crisis after 459 new Covid-19 cases and 10 deaths on Sunday, as NSW records six new cases linked to Thai Rock restaurant and Queensland says it’s prepared to ‘slam the border shut’. Follow [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/PoSqOD02:20
BrainstormUpdates for World: +2170 cases (now 16.5 million), +41 deaths (now 652302) since 20 minutes ago — Panama: +1432 cases (now 60296), +19 deaths (now 1294) since 22 hours ago — Ecuador: +658 cases (now 80694), +8 deaths (now 5515) since a day ago — Faroe Is.: +23 cases (now 214) since 13 hours ago02:24
BrainstormNew from BBC Health: Coronavirus doctor's diary: Will vaccine sceptics make trials a headache?: The NHS soon needs to start flu vaccinations and Covid vaccine trials - but anti-vax attitudes seem to be spreading. → https://is.gd/lBrUht02:30
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Coronavirus Australia live update: fears over Victoria outbreak after deadliest day – latest news: Victoria’s health system in crisis after 459 new Covid-19 cases and 10 deaths on Sunday, as NSW records six new cases linked to Thai Rock restaurant and Queensland says it’s prepared to ‘slam the border shut’. Follow [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/PoSqOD02:39
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Coronavirus live news: US sees 5,000 deaths in five days as Dr Birx urges some states to close bars: Birx says federal health experts recommend bar closures in Kentucky, Tennessee, Ohio, Indiana and Virginia ; Spain’s Covid-19 deaths could be 60% higher ; Global deaths near 650,000. Follow the latest updates → https://is.gd/qXh0d002:49
BrainstormUpdates for US: +858 cases (now 4.4 million), +6 deaths (now 149845) since 36 minutes ago — World: +858 cases (now 16.5 million), +8 deaths (now 652310) since 34 minutes ago — Texas, US: +412 cases (now 397992), +3 deaths (now 5155) since 50 minutes ago — California, US: +297 cases (now 459195) since 36 minutes ago02:54
BrainstormUpdates for Kenya: +960 cases (now 17603), +2 deaths (now 280) since a day ago — World: +1016 cases (now 16.5 million), +2 deaths (now 652312) since 23 minutes ago — Washington, US: +56 cases (now 53567) since 51 minutes ago — US: +56 cases (now 4.4 million) since 23 minutes ago03:09
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Coronavirus Australia live update: Victoria premier Dan Andrews announces 532 new Covid-19 cases and six deaths: Australia records the highest daily one-day total since start of pandemic, as Andrews announces 683 active cases linked to aged care in Victoria. Queensland says it’s prepared to ‘slam the border shut’. Follow [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/PoSqOD03:18
ryouma`is there somethign considered wrong about mentioning archiving websites?  idgi.03:22
LjLryouma`, i don't know, i understand link shorteners, but archive.org and archive.is are something quite different03:27
LjLoften they are welcomed, since they guarantee that the article won't fly away03:27
LjLso this subreddit's automoderator rule seems a bit dumb03:28
ryouma`ont he surface seems quite dumb.  in fact i'd want to encourage such tihngs, preferably redundantly and preferably including that one that stores using tor so that nobody can take it down.  :)03:35
BrainstormUpdates for World: +7600 cases (now 16.5 million), +365 deaths (now 652677) since 43 minutes ago — Mexico: +5480 cases (now 390516), +306 deaths (now 43680) since 23 hours ago — Australia: +532 cases (now 14935), +6 deaths (now 161) since 20 hours ago — Bolivia: +1148 cases (now 69429), +48 deaths (now 2583) since 23 hours ago03:39
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Coronavirus live news: US reports 5,000 deaths in five days as Australia sees record new cases: Birx says federal health experts recommend bar closures in Kentucky, Tennessee, Ohio, Indiana and Virginia ; Spain’s Covid-19 deaths could be 60% higher ; Global deaths near 650,000. Follow the latest updates → https://is.gd/qXh0d004:07
BrainstormUpdates for Sint Maarten: +21 cases (now 114) since a day ago — South Korea: +25 cases (now 14175), +1 deaths (now 299) since 2 hours ago — World: +21 cases (now 16.5 million) since 50 minutes ago04:24
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Coronavirus Australia live update: Victoria reports six deaths and 532 Covid-19 cases and NSW 17 new cases: Australia records highest daily one-day total of cases since start of pandemic, as Andrews announces 683 active cases linked to aged care in Victoria, and in Sydney the Thai Rock Wetherill Park cluster rises to 70. Follow [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/PoSqOD04:26
CoronaBot04/r/covid19: Can boosting interferons, the body’s frontline virus fighters, beat COVID-19? (80 votes) | https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/07/can-boosting-interferons-body-s-frontline-virus-fighters-beat-covid-19 | https://redd.it/hybltz05:14
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Victoria: Coronavirus Australia: Victoria reports record 532 new cases and six deaths as NSW reports 17 cases → https://is.gd/ehmEY105:24
BrainstormUpdates for Peru: +4913 cases (now 384797), +199 deaths (now 18229) since a day ago — World: +6052 cases (now 16.5 million), +217 deaths (now 652894) since an hour ago — Honduras: +838 cases (now 39276), +18 deaths (now 1116) since a day ago — Belgium: +299 cases (now 66026) since a day ago05:25
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Coronavirus Australia live update: Victoria reports six deaths and 532 Covid-19 cases and NSW 17 new cases: Australia records highest daily one-day total of cases since start of pandemic, as Andrews announces 683 active cases linked to aged care in Victoria, and in Sydney the Thai Rock Wetherill Park cluster rises to 70. Follow [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/PoSqOD05:43
CoronaBot04/r/coronavirus: USA did not provide current COVID-19 case data to the WHO (10613 votes) | https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/situation-reports/20200726-covid-19-sitrep-188.pdf | https://redd.it/hygrqb05:44
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Coronavirus live news: China reports highest new cases since April; Australia sees record daily infections: Birx says federal health experts recommend bar closures in Kentucky, Tennessee, Ohio, Indiana and Virginia ; Spain’s Covid-19 deaths could be 60% higher ; Global deaths near 650,000. Follow the latest updates → https://is.gd/qXh0d006:31
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Coronavirus Australia live update: Victoria reports six deaths and 532 Covid-19 cases and NSW 17 new cases: Australia records highest daily one-day total of cases since start of pandemic, as Andrews announces 683 active cases linked to aged care in Victoria, and in Sydney the Thai Rock Wetherill Park cluster rises to 70. Follow [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/PoSqOD06:41
CoronaBot04/r/covid19: Harnessing nitric oxide for preventing, limiting and treating the severe pulmonary consequences of COVID-19 (80 votes) | https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1089860320301701 | https://redd.it/hyei7906:51
strikehttps://sci-hub.tw/downloads/2020-07-16/bf/10.1016@j.niox.2020.07.003.pdf#view=FitH06:55
strikeHere's the full article06:55
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus live news: China reports highest new cases since April; Australia sees record daily infections → https://is.gd/qXh0d007:01
BrainstormUpdates for Victoria, Australia: +515 cases (now 8696), +6 deaths (now 77) since a day ago — World: +4704 cases (now 16.5 million), +40 deaths (now 652934) since an hour ago — Kazakhstan: +1402 cases (now 83122) since a day ago — Pakistan: +1176 cases (now 274289), +20 deaths (now 5842) since a day ago07:05
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Coronavirus Australia live update: Victoria reports six deaths and 532 Covid-19 cases and NSW 17 new cases: Australia records highest daily one-day total of cases since start of pandemic, as Andrews announces 683 active cases linked to aged care in Victoria, and in Sydney the Thai Rock Wetherill Park cluster rises to 70. Follow [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/PoSqOD07:10
BrainstormUpdates for Andhra Pradesh, India: +7627 cases (now 96298), +56 deaths (now 1041) since a day ago — Bihar, India: +2572 cases (now 39176), +15 deaths (now 249) since a day ago — La Paz, Bolivia: +1098 cases (now 13371), +17 deaths (now 218) since a day ago — Maharashtra, India: +9431 cases (now 375799), +267 deaths (now 13656) since a day ago07:20
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Vietnam evacuating 80,000 people from city after three positive coronavirus tests → https://is.gd/7qsDWt07:39
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Coronavirus Australia live update: Victoria reports six deaths and 532 Covid-19 cases and NSW 17 new cases: Australia records highest daily one-day total of cases since start of pandemic, as Andrews announces 683 active cases linked to aged care in Victoria, and in Sydney the Thai Rock Wetherill Park cluster rises to 70. Follow [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/PoSqOD07:49
BrainstormNew from The Indian Express: World: Coronavirus Global Updates, 27 July: New hot spots in Spain; Florida overtakes New York in cases → https://is.gd/nIJHQx08:09
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Coronavirus Australia live update: Victoria reports six deaths and 532 Covid-19 cases and NSW 17 new cases: Australia records highest daily one-day total of cases since start of pandemic, as Andrews announces 683 active cases linked to aged care in Victoria, and in Sydney the Thai Rock Wetherill Park cluster rises to 70. Follow [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/PoSqOD08:18
BrainstormUpdates for World: +2556 cases (now 16.5 million), +56 deaths (now 652990) since an hour ago — India: +1957 cases (now 1.4 million), +14 deaths (now 32826) since 5 hours ago — Odisha, India: +1503 cases (now 26892), +7 deaths (now 181) since an hour ago — Atlantico, Colombia: +866 cases (now 48439), +34 deaths (now 2394) since a day ago08:20
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Coronavirus outbreak: UK coronavirus live: fears of holiday plans disarray after quarantine imposed on Spain → https://is.gd/AjYMNs08:47
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus live news: China reports highest new cases since April; Australia sees record daily infections → https://is.gd/qXh0d008:57
BrainstormNew from The Indian Express (Health): Destination of the week: Photo of US, Canada boats on Niagara waters highlights their approach to pandemic → https://is.gd/mQcJ0x09:06
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Coronavirus Australia live update: Sydney Black Lives Matter protest appeal dismissed as Victoria reports six deaths and 532 Covid-19 cases: Australia records highest daily one-day total of cases since start of pandemic, as Andrews announces 683 active cases linked to aged care in Victoria, and in Sydney the Thai Rock Wetherill [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/PoSqOD09:16
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Coronavirus outbreak: UK coronavirus live: fears of holiday plans disarray after quarantine imposed on Spain → https://is.gd/AjYMNs09:35
BrainstormUpdates for World: +5736 cases (now 16.5 million), +91 deaths (now 653081) since an hour ago — Russia: +5635 cases (now 818120), +85 deaths (now 13354) since 21 hours ago — Rajasthan, India: +448 cases (now 36878), +7 deaths (now 631) since 2 hours ago — Armenia: +73 cases (now 37390), +6 deaths (now 711) since 21 hours ago09:36
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus live news: China reports highest new cases since April; Australia sees record daily infections → https://is.gd/qXh0d009:45
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Coronavirus Australia live update: Sydney Black Lives Matter protest appeal dismissed as Victoria reports six deaths and 532 Covid-19 cases: Australia records highest daily one-day total of cases since start of pandemic, as Andrews announces 683 active cases linked to aged care in Victoria, and in Sydney the Thai Rock Wetherill [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/PoSqOD10:04
CoronaBot04/r/covid19: Prevalence study determines that 25.3% of the population of Lima and Callao would be infected with Covid-19 (83 votes) | https://www.gob.pe/institucion/minsa/noticias/216013-estudio-de-prevalencia-determina-que-el-25-3-de-la-poblacion-de-lima-y-callao-estaria-infectada-de-covid-19 | https://redd.it/hygly410:10
BrainstormNew from BBC Health: Obesity: Unhealthy 'buy one get one free' deals targeted: Ministers will also legislate for calories to appear on menus as part of a strategy to tackle obesity. → https://is.gd/THWxrt10:24
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Coronavirus outbreak: UK coronavirus live: fears of holiday plans disarray after quarantine imposed on Spain → https://is.gd/AjYMNs10:34
BrainstormNew from StatNews: Covid-19 vaccines may cause mild side effects, experts say, stressing need for education, not alarm: While the world awaits the results of large clinical trials of Covid-19 vaccines, experts say the data so far suggest one important possibility: The vaccines may carry a bit of… → https://is.gd/1cnjv210:43
CoronaBot04/r/coronavirus: Texas Couple Beats COVID-19, Cancer, and Chemotherapy Together (10005 votes) | https://www.latinpost.com/articles/146588/20200726/texas-couple-beats-covid-19-cancer-chemotherapy-together.htm | https://redd.it/hyexdm10:46
BrainstormUpdates for World: +10180 cases (now 16.5 million), +159 deaths (now 653240) since an hour ago — Bangladesh: +2772 cases (now 226225), +37 deaths (now 2965) since 23 hours ago — India: +2395 cases (now 1.4 million), +40 deaths (now 32866) since 2 hours ago — Philippines: +1592 cases (now 82040), +13 deaths (now 1945) since 23 hours ago10:51
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Coronavirus outbreak: UK coronavirus live: fears of holiday plans disarray after quarantine imposed on Spain → https://is.gd/AjYMNs10:53
CoronaBot04/r/covid19: COVID-19 severity correlates with airway epithelium–immune cell interactions identified by single-cell analysis (80 votes) | https://www.nature.com/articles/s41587-020-0602-4 | https://redd.it/hyabk311:10
BrainstormNew from StatNews: Opinion: We need to forecast epidemics like we forecast the weather: Disease-modeling communities around the world have been working tirelessly since January to predict how and where Covid-19 will spread, with some real successes. A host of models have illustrated how,… → https://is.gd/j85Hdp11:13
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Coronavirus outbreak: UK coronavirus live: holidaymakers' plans in disarray after quarantine imposed on Spain → https://is.gd/AjYMNs11:22
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Coronavirus Australia live update: Sydney Black Lives Matter protest appeal dismissed as Victoria reports six deaths and 532 Covid-19 cases: Australia records highest daily one-day total of cases since start of pandemic, as premier announces 683 active cases linked to aged care in Victoria, and in Sydney the Thai Rock Wetherill [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/PoSqOD11:42
BrainstormUpdates for World: +1504 cases (now 16.5 million), +11 deaths (now 653251) since an hour ago — Oman: +1053 cases (now 77058), +9 deaths (now 393) since a day ago — Moscow City, Russia: +694 cases (now 238641), +36 deaths (now 4411) since 4 hours ago — Altay Territory, Russia: +412 cases (now 8665), +5 deaths (now 64) since 2 days ago11:51
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Coronavirus outbreak: UK coronavirus live: holidaymakers' plans in disarray after quarantine imposed on Spain → https://is.gd/AjYMNs11:52
BrainstormNew from BMJ: Covid-19: Former civil service head criticises government’s response to crisis: The former head of the British civil service has criticised the government’s response to the covid crisis, saying that it had been distorted by political expediency and disadvantaged by unbalanced... → https://is.gd/g2suN312:01
BrainstormNew from The Indian Express: World: Pilgrims arrive in Mecca for downsized hajj amid pandemic → https://is.gd/NLlk6z12:12
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Coronavirus outbreak: UK coronavirus live: holidaymakers' plans in disarray after Spain quarantine imposed → https://is.gd/AjYMNs12:21
CoronaBot04/r/covid19: N-acetycysteine: a potential therapeutic agent in COVID-19 infection (83 votes) | https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0306987720314973 | https://redd.it/hykpif12:53
CoronaBot04/r/covid19: Facemasks for prevention of viral respiratory infections in community settings: A systematic review and meta-analysis (80 votes) | http://www.ijph.in/article.asp?issn=0019-557X;year=2020;volume=64;issue=6;spage=192;epage=200;aulast=Aggarwal | https://redd.it/hybmcj12:59
BrainstormNew from BBC Health: Obesity: Unhealthy 'buy one get one free' deals targeted: Ministers will also legislate for calories to appear on menus as part of a strategy to tackle obesity. → https://is.gd/THWxrt13:21
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Coronavirus outbreak: UK coronavirus live: holidaymakers' plans in disarray after Spain quarantine imposed → https://is.gd/AjYMNs13:31
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus live news: Belgium set to tighten restrictions; China reports highest new cases since April → https://is.gd/qXh0d013:41
CoronaBot04/r/covid19: SARS-CoV-2 Is Not Detectable in the Vaginal Fluid of Women With Severe COVID-19 Infection (82 votes) | https://academic.oup.com/cid/article/doi/10.1093/cid/ciaa375/5815295 | https://redd.it/hyot5713:41
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Moderna wins additional U.S. funding; WHO deems Covid-19 'most severe' health emergency → https://is.gd/UcIM6g14:20
BrainstormUpdates for World: +6233 cases (now 16.5 million), +278 deaths (now 653529) since 2 hours ago — Iran: +2434 cases (now 293606), +212 deaths (now 15912) since 23 hours ago — Bihar, India: +1935 cases (now 41111), +6 deaths (now 255) since 7 hours ago — Romania: +1104 cases (now 45902), +19 deaths (now 2206) since a day ago14:22
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: 5 things to know before the stock market opens Monday: Dow futures were higher Monday as White House officials signal what Republicans are willing to accept in a new coronavirus relief bill. → https://is.gd/Anley914:30
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Moderna wins additional U.S. funding; WHO deems Covid-19 'most severe' health emergency → https://is.gd/UcIM6g14:50
drytrumpetSpain is not updating covid-19 informations since 2020-07-2314:50
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: 5 things to know before the stock market opens Monday: Dow futures were higher Monday as White House officials signal what Republicans are willing to accept in a new coronavirus relief bill. → https://is.gd/Anley914:59
BrainstormNew from StatNews: Pharma: STAT Plus: Pharmalittle: Moderna gets $472 million as late-stage Covid-19 vaccine trial begins; EU turns away from WHO vaccine effort → https://is.gd/SrhrI915:09
BrainstormUpdates for Virginia, US: +1505 cases (now 86072), +4 deaths (now 2082) since 23 hours ago — World: +7539 cases (now 16.5 million), +147 deaths (now 653676) since an hour ago — Uttar Pradesh, India: +3505 cases (now 70493), +30 deaths (now 1456) since 8 hours ago — Iraq: +2553 cases (now 112585), +96 deaths (now 4458) since 23 hours ago15:22
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Moderna wins additional U.S. funding; WHO deems Covid-19 'most severe' health emergency → https://is.gd/UcIM6g15:29
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: Moderna shares soar after U.S. ups funding for coronavirus vaccine by $472 million: Moderna shares soared after the biotech company announced it received an additional $472 million from the U.S. government to support the development of its potential coronavirus vaccine. → https://is.gd/yBCIJh15:39
nixonixare there already some large studies available comparing the effectivenes of different control measures? large meaning that eg all the nordic countries (that had different set of measures compared to most of lower europe) were included?15:42
nixonixalso a good study would naturally find out the real excess mortality instead of official numbers. and hopefully mortality differencies between age groups etc., because if the large part of mortality is from senior homes, hospitals and other institutes, measures in the society outside of them affects those places only indirectly15:46
nixonixif there isnt one, thats strange because that would be among the most important knowledge we are missing15:47
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Moderna wins additional U.S. funding; WHO deems Covid-19 'most severe' health emergency → https://is.gd/UcIM6g15:49
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Coronavirus outbreak: UK coronavirus live: disarray after Spain quarantine imposed; pet cat first animal in Britain to test positive → https://is.gd/AjYMNs15:58
BrainstormNew from StatNews: STAT Plus: Generic group fails again to block California law that bans pay-to-delay deals: A federal appeals court denied a bid by a pharmaceutical industry trade group to block a closely watched California law that bans so-called pay-to-delay deals between drug makers. → https://is.gd/IJHLSL16:08
jan[m]6<nixonix "are there already some large stu"> AFAIK the Nordic countries weren’t acting much different than the other European countries except for Sweden which took a different approach and as far as we can see by now it didn’t work out 16:15
BrainstormNew from The Indian Express: World: Trump’s national security adviser has coronavirus → https://is.gd/hHjR5r16:18
BrainstormUpdates for World: +26208 cases (now 16.6 million), +285 deaths (now 653961) since an hour ago — India: +24620 cases (now 1.5 million), +245 deaths (now 33111) since 5 hours ago — Bosnia and Herz.: +773 cases (now 10540), +14 deaths (now 294) since 3 days ago — Tamil Nadu, India: +6993 cases (now 220716), +77 deaths (now 3571) since 9 hours ago16:22
CoronaBot04/r/coronavirus: 4 injured in shooting at Dallas sports bar after men not allowed in due to COVID-19 restrictions (10028 votes) | https://www.fox4news.com/news/4-injured-in-shooting-at-dallas-sports-bar-after-men-not-allowed-in-due-to-covid-19-restrictions.amp | https://redd.it/hykoyd16:24
Jigsyhttps://www.gov.uk/government/news/covid-19-confirmed-in-pet-cat-in-the-uk16:25
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BrainstormJigsy: From www.gov.uk: COVID-19 confirmed in pet cat in the UK - GOV.UK16:25
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Moderna wins additional U.S. funding; WHO deems Covid-19 'most severe' health emergency → https://is.gd/UcIM6g16:28
nixonixjan[m]6: i should try to find good lists of control measures, but i know the best measures in finland, and they werent close to the level of most of lower europe. eg no restriction of movement exp couple weeks between metropolitan area and rest of country (removed quick as unnecessary). barbershops, all the stores etc open. private gyms etc was up to owners if keep them open, some did some didnt16:30
nixonixand what i have read, the lower part of erope closed shops exp grocery stores and pharmacies, barbershops, had restrictions for movement etc lots of stuff16:31
nixonixso we were here much closer to sweden. just couple of essential extra measures were done, that the swedish didnt (like closing the bars - but with unnecessary delay here)16:32
nixonixand i think it was pretty much the same in other nordic countries. norweigians had some tighter measures for a period though, and therefore they cut the cases down quicker16:33
nixonixso it seems the rest of europe and the world now think, that nordic countries had similar measures. and that makes them blind to the measures that are necessary, and which are not. sigh...16:35
nixonixwhen not even good studies comparing the measures effectiveness are done. in the half year we have had the epidemic. some small studies, but the only nordic country ive seen included was sweden. smh16:36
nixonixso the worst case scenario now is, that all the same stuff will be repeated like in the spring. delayed measures (now because they are trying to avoid closing down economy and movement - and putting their hopes in mandatory masks), cases will increase again, then all the same measures again. many of those unnecessary - especially if those that are necessary would be executed without delay unlike the last time16:41
nixonixwell there are some improvements compared to the last time, like treatment. information would now be available, but it seems to be ignored largely. but who knows, maybe those researchers in health institutes are not, and it goes better this time. that was the worst case scnerario anyway16:42
nixonixthose european countries with the tightest travel restrictions, and earliest retightenings, will be winners this time. the second will be those with efficient testing and infection chain tracking (finland doesnt belong to the latter group, unfortunately)16:45
nixonixthe second wave has started in europe? yes, no, idk?16:47
BrainstormNew from StatNews: Covid-19 infections leave an impact on the heart, raising concerns about lasting damage: It is too soon to say if the heart damage in patients recovering from Covid-19 is transient or permanent, but cardiologists are worried. → https://is.gd/tzZWkM17:05
BrainstormUpdates for World: +11172 cases (now 16.6 million), +111 deaths (now 654072) since 54 minutes ago — US: +9284 cases (now 4.4 million), +81 deaths (now 149945) since 54 minutes ago — Florida, US: +8892 cases (now 432747), +78 deaths (now 5933) since 21 hours ago — Buenos Aires, Argentina: +2918 cases (now 94877) since 9 hours ago17:07
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus live news: Belgium PM warns country could go into second 'complete lockdown' → https://is.gd/qXh0d017:14
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BrainstormUpdates for Maharashtra, India: +7924 cases (now 383723), +227 deaths (now 13883) since 10 hours ago — World: +3140 cases (now 16.6 million), +31 deaths (now 654103) since 33 minutes ago — US: +2239 cases (now 4.4 million), +19 deaths (now 149964) since 33 minutes ago — Alabama, US: +1821 cases (now 81115), +18 deaths (now 1491) since a day ago17:37
EricGrahamMacEac!cases USA17:38
CovBotIn United States there have been a total of 4,384,069 cases as of 2020-07-27 15:17:00 UTC. Of these 2,143,215 (48.9%) are still sick or may have recovered without being recorded, 2,090,909 (47.7%) have definitely recovered and 149,945 (3.4%) have died.17:38
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Coronavirus outbreak: UK coronavirus live: disarray after Spain quarantine imposed; pet cat first animal in Britain to test positive → https://is.gd/AjYMNs17:54
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: 'It's catastrophic': UK Covid-19 restrictions for Spain bring worry and frustration – video report: Travellers between Spain and the UK have expressed their shock at the UK government's sudden decision to impose a two-week quarantine on Saturday 25 March. → https://is.gd/QwZwle18:03
BrainstormUpdates for World: +25726 cases (now 16.6 million), +496 deaths (now 654599) since 33 minutes ago — India: +13204 cases (now 1.5 million), +307 deaths (now 33436) since an hour ago — US: +4361 cases (now 4.4 million), +5 deaths (now 149969) since 33 minutes ago — Brazil: +3897 cases (now 2.4 million), +79 deaths (now 87131) since 16 hours ago18:07
BrainstormNew from Scientific American: Health: We Need Federal Action to Prevent the Next Pandemic → https://is.gd/B6vbnW18:13
nixonixhere we go again? "Belgium PM warns country could go into second 'complete lockdown"18:15
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: (news): Cramer: Moderna sets 'pace of overoptimism' on how quickly a coronavirus vaccine could be ready → https://is.gd/S5jsMK18:23
nixonixhttps://www.brusselstimes.com/all-news/belgium-all-news/123651/belgiums-security-council-introduces-extra-coronavirus-restrictions-again/18:26
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Fauci says Covid-19 vaccine is possible by October but more likely for November – live: Fauci: ‘We’re leaving an open mind’ to what’s possible National security adviser tests positive for coronavirus Republicans and Democrats pitch opposing stimulus plans Clashes in Portland as Trump’s actions light fuse under [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/TutX2C18:33
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CoronaBot04/r/covid19: Phase 3 clinical trial of investigational vaccine for COVID-19 begins (81 votes) | https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/phase-3-clinical-trial-investigational-vaccine-covid-19-begins | https://redd.it/hyt9fc18:56
BrainstormUpdates for World: +7459 cases (now 16.6 million), +44 deaths (now 654643) since an hour ago — US: +4507 cases (now 4.4 million), +24 deaths (now 149993) since an hour ago — Louisiana, US: +2343 cases (now 109917), +20 deaths (now 3786) since 16 hours ago — West Bengal, India: +2112 cases (now 60830), +39 deaths (now 1411) since 11 hours ago19:08
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Fauci says Covid-19 vaccine is possible by October but more likely for November – live: Fauci: ‘We’re leaving an open mind’ to what’s possible National security adviser tests positive for coronavirus Republicans and Democrats pitch opposing stimulus plans Clashes in Portland as Trump’s actions light fuse under [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/TutX2C19:12
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: (news): Dr. Anthony Fauci isn't 'particularly concerned' about safety of Moderna coronavirus vaccine → https://is.gd/HCXw0S19:21
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus live news: Belgium PM warns country could go into second 'complete lockdown' → https://is.gd/qXh0d019:51
CoronaBot04/r/coronavirus: Google to Keep Employees Home Until Summer 2021 Amid Coronavirus Pandemic (10107 votes) | https://www.wsj.com/articles/google-to-keep-employees-home-until-summer-2021-amid-coronavirus-pandemic-11595854201?mod=e2tw | https://redd.it/hyrth020:02
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Top Trump advisor tests positive; Google extends remote working until summer 2021 → https://is.gd/UcIM6g20:11
CoronaBot04/r/covid19: Moderna Announces Phase 3 COVE Study of mRNA Vaccine Against COVID-19 (mRNA-1273) Begins (81 votes) | https://investors.modernatx.com/news-releases/news-release-details/moderna-announces-phase-3-cove-study-mrna-vaccine-against-covid | https://redd.it/hyuyvw20:14
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: Dr. Anthony Fauci isn't 'particularly concerned' about Moderna coronavirus vaccine's new technology: White House coronavirus advisor Dr. Anthony Fauci said he is "not particularly concerned" about the safety risk of a potential coronavirus vaccine by Moderna, despite the fact that it uses new technology to fight the virus. → https://is.gd/HCXw0S20:20
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Top Trump advisor tests positive; Google extends remote working until summer 2021 → https://is.gd/UcIM6g20:30
BrainstormUpdates for World: +17008 cases (now 16.6 million), +184 deaths (now 654827) since 2 hours ago — US: +11876 cases (now 4.4 million), +137 deaths (now 150130) since 2 hours ago — Georgia (US), US: +2890 cases (now 170843), +11 deaths (now 3509) since 23 hours ago — Tennessee, US: +2553 cases (now 96489), +11 deaths (now 978) since 23 hours ago21:23
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: Coronavirus outbreak shows signs of slowing in Arizona, Texas and Florida: Coronavirus outbreaks in Arizona, Florida and Texas appear to be slowing down as more people practice social distancing and states halt reopening plans. → https://is.gd/tJ4Ykb21:29
BrainstormNew from Gazzetta Ufficiale italiana: MINISTERO DELLA SALUTE - ORDINANZA 24 luglio 2020: Ulteriori misure  urgenti  in  materia  di  contenimento  e  gestionedell'emergenza epidemiologica da COVID-19. (20A04099) → https://is.gd/NNk3Tn21:39
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Worst state outbreaks slowing; top Trump advisor tests positive → https://is.gd/UcIM6g21:48
BrainstormUpdates for La Paz, Bolivia: +1098 cases (now 13371), +17 deaths (now 218) since 33 minutes ago — Maharashtra, India: +7924 cases (now 383723), +227 deaths (now 13883) since 33 minutes ago — Tamil Nadu, India: +6993 cases (now 220716), +77 deaths (now 3571) since 33 minutes ago — Andhra Pradesh, India: +6051 cases (now 102349), +49 deaths (now 1090) since 33 minutes ago21:53
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Fauci says Covid-19 vaccine is possible by October but more likely for November – live: Fauci: ‘We’re leaving an open mind’ to what’s possible Trump says he won’t pay his respects to John Lewis Late congressman’s casket arrives at US Capitol to lie in state National security adviser tests positive for coronavirus [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/TutX2C21:58
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Worst state outbreaks slowing; top Trump advisor tests positive → https://is.gd/UcIM6g22:08
BrainstormNew from Ars Technica: Science: Moderna begins first late-stage US trial of COVID-19 vaccine → https://is.gd/lr7UqV22:18
LjL"Worst state outbreaks slowing" ← really, or just due to the White House getting control of the data?22:24
oribawould be nice to have a leak of the data before it goies to the White House...22:25
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: (news): President Trump announces $265 million award to Fujifilm for coronavirus vaccine manufacturing → https://is.gd/odWqIr22:28
oribaA vaccine with a bad side effects, so that people die from the vaccine has the remarkable result to reduce the number of deaths by covid-19.22:37
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Worst state outbreaks slowing; top Trump advisor tests positive → https://is.gd/UcIM6g22:38
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus live news: global death toll passes 650k as Belgian PM warns of total lockdown → https://is.gd/qXh0d022:57
oribaBerlin at the weekend: 3000 people making party in park.... https://www.rbb24.de/politik/thema/2020/coronavirus/beitraege_neu/2020/07/berlin-hasenheide-illegale-party-kalayci-gesundheitsausschuss.html22:58
oribahttps://www.rbb24.de/panorama/beitrag/av7/video-berlin-hasenheide-riesenparty.html23:00
drytrumpet@oriba to many Covidiots in DeltaLima.23:01
oribanumber of new infections rising...23:02
oribahttps://www.rbb24.de/panorama/thema/2020/coronavirus/service/faelle-berlin-brandenburg-verdopplungszeit-fallzahlen-entwicklung.html23:02
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: Coronavirus outbreak shows signs of slowing in Arizona, Texas and Florida: Coronavirus outbreaks in Arizona, Florida and Texas appear to be slowing down as more people practice social distancing and states halt reopening plans. → https://is.gd/tJ4Ykb23:07
drytrumpet@oriba since 3 days the spanish government is no updating their covid data anymore. https://cnecovid.isciii.es/covid19/23:11
nixonixany data, cases, fatalities, test numbers, share of positive tests?23:16
nixonixTUI cancelled flights from uk to spain, not sure if they did the same from other countries23:16
nixonixand will other travel agencies follow the suit23:17
NoImNotNineVoltGUIs are the future anyway23:17
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: New Jersey gym owners arrested after defying coronavirus order: 'We will not be backing down': Smith and Trumbetti reopened their gym on May 18 surrounded by American flag-toting supporters who chanted "USA," according to a video posted on Twitter. → https://is.gd/I6npxj23:17
nixonixim on gui client myself right now, but lots of old people with tui clients still alive23:18
NoImNotNineVolt(i've literally never heard of tui before)23:18
NoImNotNineVolt(i'm using irssi though, tui > gui :P)23:18
nixonix https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TUI_Group23:18
NoImNotNineVoltTUI AG, also known as TUI Group, is an Anglo-German multinational travel and tourism company headquartered in Hannover, Germany. It is the largest leisure, travel and tourism company in the world, and it owns travel agencies, hotels, airlines, cruise ships and retail stores.23:18
drytrumpet@nixonix nice data at: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ https://github.com/ulklc/covid19-timeseries https://datahub.io/core/covid-1923:20
nixonixworldometer seems to have numbers still yesterday. so its just that governments site23:24
BrainstormUpdates for World: +45123 cases (now 16.7 million), +929 deaths (now 655781) since an hour ago — Brazil: +18577 cases (now 2.4 million), +487 deaths (now 87618) since 5 hours ago — US: +12054 cases (now 4.4 million), +104 deaths (now 150254) since an hour ago — South Africa: +7096 cases (now 452529), +298 deaths (now 7067) since a day ago23:24
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus live news: global death toll passes 650k as Belgian PM warns of total lockdown → https://is.gd/qXh0d023:27
nixonixbalkan is the worst european area now. not including greece23:29
nixonixsome of them dont report to ecdc it seems https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/cases-2019-ncov-eueea23:30
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drytrumpet2@nixonix agree with balkan, plenty had fled home fromgermany, where they worked at meet and vegetable plants23:37
Arsaneritthe killing fields23:42
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Coronavirus Australia live: fears over scale of Victoria's aged care outbreak – latest updates: State government announces paid pandemic leave scheme after casual staff linked to 683 active Covid-19 cases in nursing homes, while in Sydney three more venues are closed. Follow live → https://is.gd/lgnWjr23:46
nixonixin finland the largest local travel agency just announced all august flights to spain, croatia and turkey are cancelled  (i think TUI's spain cancellation was only till august 9th or so)23:46
nixonixprob other countries following. or travel agencies23:47
drytrumpet2Arsanerit:  agree, The extremely poor germans need cheap food, harvested by balkan slaves.23:47
Arsaneritdrytrumpet2: Nobody needs to eat meat every day and asparagus are a luxury vegetable.23:47
drytrumpet2Arsanerit:  agree again23:47
ArsaneritSo I don't think that vastly improving both human and animal quality of life in those parts of agriculture would lead to malnourishment as such among the poorest Germans.23:48
nixonixalso read "some of the infections in finland appear to be from balkan". didnt say if brought by tourists, or workers that came from there (farms or construction). or other type of import. but balkan was the only one mentioned as a source in the report of health institute23:48
ArsaneritHowever, it would lead to more expensive meat which the lower middle classes will feel in their pockets and possible respond to in the voting booths.23:49
ArsaneritAnd tourists can be either ethnic Finns vacationing in Croatia and Montenegro, or people with roots in the Balkan visiting their family or homeland over the summer.23:50
drytrumpet2nixonix:  balkan was till some weeks average, but since the second week in july the are doing a steep progress.23:53
nixonixthey didnt give more info. also the routes can well be via germany or baltia, so who knows where they all have been23:53
nixonixit may be they have tested and traced too little, or their numbers are not reliable. so the surge might have been developing way earlier23:54
drytrumpet2nixonix:  O.K, maybe somebody finds out in future. We also have a high climbing rate now in Israel and Spain.23:56
BrainstormNew from StatNews: Pfizer and BioNTech pick Covid-19 vaccine and begin pivotal study: The vaccine being taken forward should lead to “more consistent responses across diverse populations and in older adults,” Pfizer said in a statement. → https://is.gd/mYQozd23:57
nixonixi have heard people driving through europe from spain etc to finland during the worst time of the first wave in the spring, with no problem23:58
drytrumpet2nixonix:  difficult! We have plenty of data, but how reliable are they? So, at the moment we must take what we have.23:59

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