| nixonix | mortality stats should tell the truth, checking excess mortality. but there is delays, from infection to death, but also registering deaths and even moving them from one register to another | 00:01 |
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| nixonix | then hospital and icu admission stats, if available | 00:01 |
| nixonix | sure its only beginning of the surge they might be younger people mostly, and small surge doesnt necessarily show up in mortality stats. but probably better, and also faster in hospital admissions | 00:02 |
| nixonix | if* it's | 00:03 |
| drytrumpet2 | nixonix: Living in a tourist area and can confirm: Plenty of braindead tourists. | 00:03 |
| nixonix | we pay for it :) | 00:03 |
| drytrumpet2 | nixonix: mortality stats? Why are the so different between Belgium, United Kingdom,Italy, Spain and Austria? | 00:06 |
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| LjL | drytrumpet2, i was looking at Portugal, it's almost reaching Belgium except for the fact that Belgium is starting to have a second wave, but then Portugal is raising but linearly, and has many fewer deaths than Belgium. but it also tested a lot, so that could explain it. on the other hand... look at Moldova: it has a *ton* of cases, more than any country in Europe, they also aren't testing much, and yet, few deaths | 00:08 |
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| drytrumpet2 | Arsanerit: Do not understand, India seemed a longtime cool, and now? | 00:09 |
| drytrumpet2 | LjL: Portugal was nr.3 best on Europe still the second week of May. And now? So it is changing every day. Anywhere. | 00:13 |
| LjL | May is a long time ago for exponential curves... (although Portugal's isn't exponential) | 00:14 |
| LjL | (also are you sure? there were a lot of Eastern European countries that had very few cases in May) | 00:15 |
| drytrumpet2 | I do evey day charts for every country worldwide, confirmed cases, tests, mortality rate, differences to the day before. And it confuses me more than ever. | 00:16 |
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| drytrumpet2 | LjL: I see in Portugal and Spain the rates a rising exponetial since they lowered the lockup. | 00:18 |
| LjL | i don't see that | 00:19 |
| LjL | Spain, yes, there is a recognized second wave | 00:19 |
| LjL | Portugal seems to be slowing down if anything | 00:19 |
| LjL | the doubling time for portugal is going sharply up | 00:19 |
| Arsanerit | bonne nuit | 00:19 |
| drytrumpet2 | Arsanerit: Tschau | 00:19 |
| nixonix | by mortality stats i meant official total mortality by week. and comparing weekly deaths to the previous few years, to see if mortality is higher and by how much | 00:21 |
| nixonix | official covid-19 fatality stats usually dont have all the fatalities actually caused by a covid-19 infection. eg in united kingdom, excess mortality in the spring was around 88% higher than official covid-19 fatality numbers. the difference between official numbers and reality varies a lot depending on country | 00:22 |
| nixonix | eg in denmark, belgium and france they match very closely to the excess mortality, but in uk, germany, austria and many countries they do not | 00:25 |
| nixonix | and identified cases, similarly unreliable to describe the prevalence, unless you have more information like daily test numbers, and precentage of positive tests | 00:25 |
| drytrumpet2 | nixonix: I think, how can you compare statistics? BBC reported, that in Uk only fatalities in hospitals are going into thestats. | 00:25 |
| LjL | nixonix: yes but in most cases, if someone was tested positive and they die, it *is* counted as a covid death. so when a country has many cases but few deaths, that's puzzling, unless they also have a lot of testing, in which case it's explainable by counting more milder cases | 00:25 |
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| drytrumpet2 | LjL: Sorry, do not understand doubling time? | 00:27 |
| LjL | drytrumpet2, it's the time it takes for the number of cases to double (become twice), if the current trend continues | 00:27 |
| Birrosso | Is virus gone yet? | 00:27 |
| nixonix | using either official mortality stats (there are different delays, and depends on coutry) or let other people do that, like: https://www.ft.com/content/a26fbf7e-48f8-11ea-aeb3-955839e06441 | 00:27 |
| nixonix | %title | 00:27 |
| LjL | drytrumpet2, https://offloop.net/covid19 shows that, last graph | 00:27 |
| Brainstorm | nixonix: From www.ft.com: Coronavirus tracked: the latest figures as countries start to reopen | Free to read | Financial Times | 00:27 |
| LjL | nixonix, well a lot of country have information about daily test numbers and percentage of positive tests. honestly though i've never figured out some reasonable formula to guesstimate the actual curve based on this mix of information. for example in italy today we have only 170 cases, but mondays are always the days with the fewest tests (well, sundays are, but it shows on mondays). and in turn, a higher percentage of those tests is positive than usual | 00:28 |
| LjL | is there a nice formula where i can put daily positives and daily tests to get an idea of the trend, irrespective of weekly pattern? i don't need absolute numbers, just to answer the question "are we actually doing better or worse than yesterday" | 00:29 |
| LjL | a question for tinwhiskers too! | 00:29 |
| LjL | because really, every day on tv they go "today it'd been worse than yesterday blah blah" or conversely "today we have fewer cases which is encouraging blah blah" but it's all bollocks because they're just seeing the weekly pattern | 00:30 |
| LjL | i try to look mostly at the positives/tests number, but that's not THE thing to look at either, because almost inevitably, on the days with the fewest tests, more of them are positive | 00:30 |
| tinwhiskers | If I understand correctly the rate of change graph I added was meant to do something like that, but it's not very intuitive to look at. | 00:31 |
| tinwhiskers | it shows the acceleration in rate, or the second-order rate | 00:32 |
| nixonix | i dont know, i just eyeball the situation. unfortunately the testing data is harder to find, eg offloop shows uk test information only from the last few days i think. in ourworldindata their positive test percentage seems to be low, but based on what | 00:32 |
| LjL | tinwhiskers, probably not what i mean. does it consider the number of tests at all? | 00:32 |
| tinwhiskers | no | 00:32 |
| drytrumpet2 | LjL: Thanks | 00:32 |
| LjL | tinwhiskers, right, then no... it's basically a second derivative? | 00:32 |
| tinwhiskers | yeah | 00:32 |
| LjL | nixonix, yes testing is available but sometimes a bit sucky | 00:33 |
| ryouma` | apparently there is big delay in tests in az | 00:34 |
| LjL | tinwhiskers, what i meant was something where you consider both the number of positives and the number of tests to make an estimate. because in italy (and almost everywhere else too, i think) we have these weekly patterns and you can see that on the days with the fewest tests, there's also the fewest cases in total, but also a higher percentage of positive tests. so i *tend* to avoid looking at the positives and just look at the percentage of positives | 00:34 |
| LjL | over tests, but that doesn't cut it either because, again, on the days with fewer tests, more percentually are positive (likely because the tests are more "targeted", i dunno) | 00:34 |
| LjL | tinwhiskers, in other words, you can gauge how things are going by either looking at how cases change, or how cases/tests change. both of them are flawed, in different ways. i feel intuitively there's probably a way to merge these views but i have no idea how | 00:35 |
| tinwhiskers | so the "Positive test rate" option under tests doesn't do what you want? | 00:35 |
| tinwhiskers | (confirmed cases per test) | 00:36 |
| de-facto | one problem would be to separate effects of targeting (e.g. only test probable cases) from the real prevalence in a cohort (e.g. if everyone would get a test at the same moment in time). So 10% positive rate may mean there is just not enough testing done and quite some cases are missed, but it also could mean an alarming portion of a cohort really is positive. If much more tests are done (e.g. very much less precise targeting) and | 00:43 |
| de-facto | positive rate still does not go down it could mean that test positive rate is comparable to real prevalence in that cohort | 00:43 |
| drytrumpet2 | Any ideas, what happens in Israel? | 00:44 |
| de-facto | but how to know how much targeting is involved without varying it and observe the effect on positive rate, idk | 00:44 |
| nixonix | doesnt show spain currently. and do we believe uk has positive percentage just 0.5%? https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/covid-19-daily-tests-vs-daily-new-confirmed-cases | 00:45 |
| nixonix | 7 day rolling average. yeah offloop shows too high number for test during the last week or so. but how about before that? | 00:46 |
| nixonix | number of tests * | 00:46 |
| de-facto | also: number of tests are not necessarily linear correlated to real number of cases, e.g. those who test positive probably will get another test in a while etc | 00:48 |
| ryouma` | %cases israel | 00:49 |
| Brainstorm | ryouma`: In Israel, there have been 63985 confirmed cases (0.7% of the population) and 474 deaths (0.7% of cases) as of 45 minutes ago. 1.7 million tests were performed (3.9% positive). Fatality can be broadly expected to lie between 0.1% (assuming prevalence as in tests) and less than 1.7% (considering only deaths and recoveries). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=Israel for time series data. | 00:49 |
| ryouma` | idk if the palestinian territories included there | 00:50 |
| drytrumpet2 | Brainstorm: Thank you a lot | 00:51 |
| nixonix | my browser doesnt show the date changing when moving the slider (ourworldindata link above), but moving it backwards possibly a week or so, uk disappears. then towards the this date again, and it shows up at 0.5%. what tests there are then used in the data, when uk just had all its testing book keeping totally messed up? | 00:52 |
| nixonix | maybe they are those antibody tests they bought millions in the spring... | 00:53 |
| nixonix | so governments are not able to produce reliable data, that could be used to estimate measures needed, and efficacy of those used | 00:55 |
| LjL | i only know where to find "smooth" testing data for Italy | 01:04 |
| LjL | if you find local trackers that contain smoother testing data than Covidly, Our World In Data etc for other countries, tell me and i'll add them to the list of links... | 01:04 |
| LjL | by the way, the bot here has a %tell function if i'm not here or just won't remember | 01:04 |
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| tinwhiskers | yeah, testing data is generally pretty awful. | 01:06 |
| drytrumpet2 | nixonix: I think, different governments producing different quality data. Look at Sweden, Morocco or Romania. The graph from one day to another looks like a ride on a crazy horse. | 01:08 |
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| ryouma` | what is casual staff? | 03:58 |
| tinwhiskers | casual's are those not on fixed term contracts and usually not fixed hours either. Flexible wage-workers perhaps. | 04:00 |
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| ryouma` | what about assisted living? is this worse or better than nursing homes (globally) | 04:15 |
| tinwhiskers | I think with assisted living you still live at home and a carer comes in periodically to assist you (it might be weekly, daily or whatever). I guess it's a matter of opinion whether that's better. I know in a lot of the more modern "lifestyle villages" a lot of people would prefer to be there with their peers than alone at home with assistance. | 04:18 |
| tinwhiskers | but compared to some of the more horrible nursing homes I think assisted living would be seen as preferable. | 04:19 |
| ryouma` | in the us assisted living is a place where a lot of folk live and come and go | 04:20 |
| tinwhiskers | oh. ok | 04:20 |
| ryouma` | but they have staff to help | 04:20 |
| tinwhiskers | ok. I might well have it wrong then :-) | 04:21 |
| ryouma` | independent living might or might not be a term closer to what you are talking about | 04:21 |
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| LjL | tinwhiskers, sadly we only have the horrible nursing homes in italy | 04:35 |
| LjL | those "elderly village" like they have in Florida or whatever... aren't a thing here | 04:35 |
| LjL | old people either live on their own, sometimes blowing up half a building by leaving gas open | 04:35 |
| LjL | or live with family, annoying them | 04:35 |
| LjL | or rot in the horrible nursing homes | 04:36 |
| tinwhiskers | ah. old style nursing homes are becoming a lot more rare in NZ, but poorer people are probably still destined to see their final days in one of those prisons. | 04:36 |
| LjL | my grandma ended up there after she repeatedly broke her hip and started going a bit senile | 04:37 |
| LjL | when she was there she became a LOT senile | 04:37 |
| tinwhiskers | horrible end really | 04:37 |
| LjL | the repeated surgeries with anesthetic didn't help i suppose | 04:37 |
| LjL | tinwhiskers, my mom keeps saying "if i ever end up like that please kill me" :( | 04:37 |
| LjL | and i keep saying "..." | 04:37 |
| tinwhiskers | yeah. I support that choice | 04:37 |
| LjL | italy needs to get better in just about every way before it becomes a non-depressing place to live again | 04:38 |
| tinwhiskers | exit bags are something someone in that state could might manage during a moment of lucidity but asking someone for assistance is not a nice thing to do. | 04:39 |
| LjL | that requires nitrogen right? | 04:39 |
| LjL | for the record, i'm asking for idle curiosoty | 04:39 |
| tinwhiskers | well... what's the output from the rear side of your oxygen purifier... | 04:39 |
| LjL | heh | 04:39 |
| LjL | i've thought of that | 04:39 |
| LjL | but there isn't an actual output... thing | 04:39 |
| tinwhiskers | no, duct tape might be required | 04:40 |
| LjL | i think the state should provide assisted suicide in exchange for taking a compulsory amount of therapy sessions | 04:40 |
| tinwhiskers | if I start going downhill I'll be fitting a flange for when the day comes. It's an innocuous peice of equipment that doesn't raise any suspicions compared to say, a mig wiilder. | 04:41 |
| LjL | if after the therapy you are still set on your decision you should be helped, no matter what they deem your physical state to be | 04:41 |
| tinwhiskers | *wielder | 04:41 |
| LjL | a flange? | 04:41 |
| LjL | %w flange | 04:41 |
| Brainstorm | LjL, flange — noun: 1. An external or internal rib or rim, used either to add strength or to hold something in place, 2. The projecting edge of a rigid or semi-rigid component, 3. (role-playing games) An ability in a role-playing game which is not commonly available, overpowered or arbitrarily imposed by the referees, 4. [... want %more?] → https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/flange | 04:41 |
| tinwhiskers | I agree, but in the current state of law in most places asking someone to assist you is placing a horrible burden on them | 04:41 |
| LjL | well there are states in the EU where the law is borderline | 04:42 |
| LjL | the problem is, even if say it's legal in Switzerland, or at least "maybe not illegal" | 04:42 |
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| tinwhiskers | yeah, things are improving. We allow our pets to die with dignity but not our elderly. | 04:42 |
| LjL | if someone has to drive you to Switzerland, which is going to be likely if you have become disabled | 04:42 |
| LjL | that someone will be arrested when they come back to Italy | 04:42 |
| LjL | although there was a bit of a landmark ruling on that | 04:42 |
| tinwhiskers | yeah. that sucks. | 04:42 |
| LjL | since this is not a hypothetical case, it happened with someone famous | 04:43 |
| LjL | eventually the person who drove him there was acquitted | 04:43 |
| LjL | although the court made very sure to "tailor-make" a ruling for that very specific occurrence | 04:43 |
| tinwhiskers | nice | 04:43 |
| LjL | so not sure how landmark it will be eventually, but it could be | 04:43 |
| tinwhiskers | it's a tricky thing to allow because people can put pressure on their elderly relatives to off themselves too | 04:44 |
| LjL | until shortly ago we didn't even have DNR orders | 04:44 |
| LjL | now we do and as typical of italy it's an incredibly bureaucratically frayed with obstacles things to register yourself as DNR | 04:44 |
| tinwhiskers | you're such a burden on the family. We won't be able to afford to send Bobby to college. | 04:44 |
| LjL | hmm | 04:45 |
| LjL | well | 04:45 |
| LjL | that's why i'd favor something with compulsory therapy in exchange for legal help to die | 04:45 |
| LjL | if the therapist figures out you are being pressured to do it, then it's a no go | 04:45 |
| tinwhiskers | fair | 04:45 |
| tinwhiskers | err, flange... pipe fitting | 04:47 |
| tinwhiskers | I was interested to see inside one of the units. I bet the output holes are fairly dispersed to make it difficult, but I was more curious about a source of nitrogen than offing myself. | 04:48 |
| LjL | tinwhiskers, or uh... just seal yourself into the smallest room you have, with the oxygen concentrator in it, and send the oxygen *outside* of the room | 04:49 |
| LjL | although the "just seal" part may be easier said than done | 04:49 |
| tinwhiskers | I mean, the tiny bit of CO2 (0.5%?) is just a minor impurity. I guess there's still a little O2 in there was well. I didn't find any specs on the output gas. | 04:49 |
| tinwhiskers | *as well | 04:50 |
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| tinwhiskers | LjL: might be a bit tricky to seal a big room but it seems you could probably seal a small room in a modern house. | 04:51 |
| tinwhiskers | Wind blows through my house so it's probably a non-starter. | 04:51 |
| LjL | tinwhiskers, yeah i was thinking like in our apartment we have a closet-type room | 04:51 |
| tinwhiskers | yeah | 04:52 |
| LjL | no windows, just have to figure out how to seal the door | 04:52 |
| tinwhiskers | duct tape should do it | 04:52 |
| tinwhiskers | Sealing the unit in might be tricky too though | 04:52 |
| LjL | this is all still hypothetical and just for science's sake, still for the record | 04:52 |
| tinwhiskers | well, as I say, I'm more interested in a source of nitrogen than offing myself :-) | 04:52 |
| tinwhiskers | - for the record | 04:53 |
| tinwhiskers | see, for DIY mig or tig wielding the inert gas still requires commercial tanks. You can use LPG for the active gas but there is no good source of inert gas. | 04:54 |
| tinwhiskers | until you raised my awareness of how oxygen purifiers work, that is. | 04:54 |
| tinwhiskers | Where I come from you can no longer get nitrogen tanks refilled without paying a monthly rental on the bottles and I don't use it enough to justify that but being able to produce my own nitrogen would be really neat. | 04:58 |
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| tinwhiskers | err, wait confusing the LPG with the alternative to Oxy-Acetylene.. For mig or tig you just need the inert gas of course. | 05:01 |
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| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Health: Coronavirus Australia live update: Victoria records six deaths and 384 Covid-19 cases and NSW 14 new cases – latest news → https://is.gd/lgnWjr | 06:34 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Komi-Permyak, Russia: +478 cases (now 5578) since 8 hours ago — World: +4553 cases (now 16.7 million), +71 deaths (now 657267) since an hour ago — Sao Paulo, Brazil: +3672 cases (now 487654), +70 deaths (now 21676) since 23 hours ago — Brazil: +2917 cases (now 2.4 million), +58 deaths (now 87737) since 4 hours ago | 06:35 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Coronavirus live news: WHO says Covid-19 is 'easily the most severe' crisis it has faced: Global cases doubled in last six weeks ; deaths pass 650,000 ; Amazon’s treatment of workers investigated . Follow the latest updates → https://is.gd/RYijpH | 06:44 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Kazakhstan: +1526 cases (now 84648) since a day ago — World: +1532 cases (now 16.7 million) since 17 minutes ago — Bhutan: +4 cases (now 99) since a day ago — Thailand: +2 cases (now 3297) since 22 hours ago | 06:50 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Health: Coronavirus Australia live update: Victoria records six deaths and 384 Covid-19 cases and NSW 14 new cases – latest news → https://is.gd/lgnWjr | 07:04 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Coronavirus live news: WHO says Covid-19 is 'easily the most severe' crisis it has faced: Global cases doubled in last six weeks ; deaths pass 650,000 ; Amazon’s treatment of workers investigated . Follow the latest updates → https://is.gd/RYijpH | 07:14 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for France: +2331 cases (now 208665) since 8 hours ago — World: +5060 cases (now 16.7 million), +64 deaths (now 657331) since 32 minutes ago — Kosovo: +496 cases (now 7413), +16 deaths (now 185) since 2 days ago — Telangana, India: +1610 cases (now 57142), +9 deaths (now 480) since 9 hours ago | 07:21 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Antioquia, Colombia: +1974 cases (now 26117), +18 deaths (now 363) since 9 hours ago — Arequipa, Peru: +996 cases (now 12699), +47 deaths (now 696) since 3 days ago — Cusco, Peru: +522 cases (now 3808), +7 deaths (now 73) since 3 days ago — Cordoba, Colombia: +522 cases (now 4504), +24 deaths (now 488) since 9 hours ago | 07:36 |
| teki | hi | 07:37 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Health: Coronavirus Australia live update: Victoria records six deaths and 384 Covid-19 cases and NSW 14 new cases – latest news → https://is.gd/lgnWjr | 07:43 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express: World: Coronavirus Global Updates, 28 July: New cases continue to rise in China; 80,000 people flee Vietnamese city → https://is.gd/WsPGIG | 07:53 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Health: Coronavirus Australia live update: Victoria records six deaths and 384 Covid-19 cases and NSW 14 new cases – latest news → https://is.gd/lgnWjr | 08:02 |
| ubLIX[m] | Bots might have missed this one. I wonder if because observational study: "Outcomes of Cardiovascular Magnetic Resonance Imaging in Patients Recently Recovered From Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19)" - https://old.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/hyvplm/outcomes_of_cardiovascular_magnetic_resonance/ - https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamacardiology/fullarticle/2768916 | 08:18 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for World: +876 cases (now 16.7 million), +13 deaths (now 657368) since an hour ago — Israel: +473 cases (now 64458) since 8 hours ago — Armenia: +239 cases (now 37629), +8 deaths (now 719) since 23 hours ago — Afghanistan: +105 cases (now 36368), +1 deaths (now 1270) since a day ago | 08:51 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Coronavirus outbreak: UK coronavirus live: Spanish PM attacks 'error' of quarantine travel restrictions → https://is.gd/OJcmQo | 09:21 |
| Brainstorm | New from BBC Health: Coronavirus: Safety fears over lack of translated virus advice: Covid-19 advice is in a limited range of languages and takes too long to be updated, campaigners say. → https://is.gd/dtjxF1 | 09:51 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Coronavirus live news: WHO says Covid-19 is 'easily the most severe' crisis it has faced: Global cases doubled in last six weeks ; deaths pass 650,000 ; Amazon’s treatment of workers investigated . Follow the latest updates → https://is.gd/RYijpH | 10:11 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Health: Coronavirus Australia live update: Victoria records six deaths and 384 Covid-19 cases and NSW 14 new cases – latest news → https://is.gd/lgnWjr | 10:21 |
| Brainstorm | New from BBC Health: Coronavirus: Safety fears over lack of translated virus advice: Covid-19 advice is in a limited range of languages and takes too long to be updated, campaigners say. → https://is.gd/dtjxF1 | 10:30 |
| Brainstorm | New from StatNews: ‘It’s like you injected adrenaline into them’: Facebook’s vaccine misinformation problem faces a new test with Covid-19: As scientists begin to clear a path to a potential coronavirus vaccine, researchers and advocates are increasingly sounding the alarm over what they see as a looming threat: Facebook’s apparent… → https://is.gd/dfFyfO | 10:40 |
| Brainstorm | New from StatNews: The first U.S. Covid-19 case was found in her district. A congresswoman reflects on the last six months: "If we have a treatment that comes out for coronavirus, and it’s only accessible to people who have money and resources, then we are not fulfilling our public health responsibility,"… → https://is.gd/MGsVLv | 10:50 |
| Brainstorm | New from StatNews: Opinion: Boosting the promise — and reining in the peril — of Covid-19 preprints: When widely shared preprint results later prove to be wrong, it can be difficult for people to "unlearn" what they thought was true. Misinformation is a lot like toothpaste: not… → https://is.gd/7o7t7h | 10:59 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for World: +13737 cases (now 16.7 million), +279 deaths (now 657647) since 2 hours ago — Russia: +5395 cases (now 823515), +150 deaths (now 13504) since a day ago — Bangladesh: +2960 cases (now 229185), +35 deaths (now 3000) since a day ago — Indonesia: +1748 cases (now 102051), +63 deaths (now 4901) since a day ago | 11:07 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Health: Coronavirus Australia live update: Victoria records six deaths and 384 Covid-19 cases and NSW 14 new cases – latest news → https://is.gd/lgnWjr | 11:09 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus live news: Germany warns against non-essential travel to parts of Spain → https://is.gd/RYijpH | 11:29 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express: World: Head of China CDC gets injected with experimental vaccine → https://is.gd/jUiyXC | 11:39 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express: World: Can you get coronavirus twice? → https://is.gd/rNchUS | 11:48 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Coronavirus outbreak: UK coronavirus live: Spanish PM attacks 'error' of quarantine travel restrictions → https://is.gd/OJcmQo | 11:58 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus live news: Germany warns against non-essential travel to parts of Spain → https://is.gd/RYijpH | 12:08 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Medical provider forced to cut back COVID-19 tests despite demand → https://is.gd/SBQGOm | 12:18 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health: Bill Gates says there could be a 'substantial' reduction in coronavirus death rate by end of 2020: Microsoft founder and billionaire Bill Gates said Tuesday that coronavirus therapeutics could reduce the death rate substantially by the end of this year but a vaccine is crucial to bringing back a sense of normalcy to the society. → https://is.gd/mR8V1s | 12:28 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Coronavirus outbreak: UK coronavirus live: Spanish PM attacks 'error' of quarantine travel restrictions → https://is.gd/OJcmQo | 12:37 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus live news: Germany warns against non-essential travel to parts of Spain → https://is.gd/RYijpH | 12:57 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Coronavirus outbreak: UK coronavirus live: Johnson says 'signs of second wave of pandemic' appearing in parts of Europe → https://is.gd/OJcmQo | 13:16 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus live news: Germany warns against non-essential travel to parts of Spain → https://is.gd/RYijpH | 13:26 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health: Bill Gates says there could be a 'substantial' reduction in coronavirus death rate by end of 2020: Bill Gates said coronavirus therapeutics could reduce the death rate substantially by the end of this year but a vaccine is crucial to bringing back a sense of normalcy to society. → https://is.gd/mR8V1s | 13:36 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health: (news): Coronavirus updates: Worst state outbreaks slowing; top Trump advisor tests positive → https://is.gd/UcIM6g | 13:45 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health: 5 things to know before the stock market opens Tuesday: Dow futures fell Tuesday as a slew of Dow components report earnings, the Fed kicks off its meeting and lawmakers work to resolve Senate and House coronavirus relief bills. → https://is.gd/QdJwMb | 13:55 |
| CoronaBot | 04/r/coronavirus: Anti-mask US senator who called coronavirus a hoax tests positive for Covid-19 (10199 votes) | https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/jason-rapert-coronavirus-hoax-face-mask-arkansas-asa-hutchinson-a9640156.html | https://redd.it/hz67nx | 14:04 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Quest warns of slowing test turnaround; Bill Gates says death rate could drop substantially → https://is.gd/7yi71U | 14:05 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health: 5 things to know before the stock market opens Tuesday: Dow futures fell Tuesday as a slew of Dow components report earnings, the Fed kicks off its meeting and lawmakers work to resolve Senate and House coronavirus relief bills. → https://is.gd/QdJwMb | 14:15 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Quest warns of slowing test turnaround; Bill Gates says death rate could drop substantially → https://is.gd/7yi71U | 14:25 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health: (news): JetBlue Airways swings to quarterly loss as coronavirus drove revenue down more than 90% → https://is.gd/dawjqD | 14:35 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Quest warns of slowing test turnaround; Bill Gates says death rate could drop substantially → https://is.gd/7yi71U | 14:45 |
| CoronaBot | 04/r/covid19: Vitamin D insufficiency as a potential culprit in critical COVID-19 patients (80 votes) | https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32716073/ | https://redd.it/hzb69y | 14:47 |
| ____GOD____ | 8:47 PM <____GOD____> In a 14 day hotel quarantine in hong kong. Haven't eaten a proper meal in days. There is an app for food delivery, but it needs a text message verification. Somebody here can receive a phone text message? Thanks in advance! | 14:49 |
| ____GOD____ | (It's foodpanda. An hk app) | 14:50 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Trump’s New COVID Doctor Says Sex With Demons Makes You Sick → https://is.gd/6tCrHv | 14:55 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health: Pfizer shares rise after better-than-expected earnings and higher 2020 outlook: Pfizer reported better-than-expected second-quarter earnings and raised its outlook for 2020, despite a 32% drop in profit as demand fell for some of its drugs during the coronavirus pandemic. → https://is.gd/FiEi6f | 15:04 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Trump returns to plugging false Covid-19 'cure' as US deaths near 150,000 – live: President promotes hydroxychloroquine and attacks public health expert Dr Anthony Fauci, who vows to continue doing his job → https://is.gd/mX76wM | 15:14 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Quest warns of slowing test turnaround; Bill Gates says death rate could drop substantially → https://is.gd/7yi71U | 15:24 |
| SpearRaven | what about a form you can print off to take with you prior to testing to help long wait times!? My sister-in-law waited four hours in her car | 15:32 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health: 5 things to know before the stock market opens Tuesday: Dow futures fell Tuesday as a slew of Dow components report earnings, the Fed kicks off its meeting and lawmakers work to resolve Senate and House coronavirus relief bills. → https://is.gd/QdJwMb | 15:33 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Quest warns of slowing test turnaround; Bill Gates says death rate could drop substantially → https://is.gd/7yi71U | 15:43 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus live news: Germany warns against travel to parts of Spain; masks compulsory in Madrid → https://is.gd/RYijpH | 16:03 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Quest warns of slowing test turnaround; Bill Gates says death rate could drop substantially → https://is.gd/7yi71U | 16:22 |
| Brainstorm | New from BBC Health: Oldham coronavirus infection spike prompts new measures: The council is urging residents to follow extra precautions to avoid a "strict local lockdown". → https://is.gd/FvIHhA | 16:32 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for World: +45764 cases (now 16.8 million), +856 deaths (now 658503) since 5 hours ago — India: +31993 cases (now 1.5 million), +387 deaths (now 33848) since 10 hours ago — Zambia: +450 cases (now 5002), +2 deaths (now 142) since 23 hours ago — Iran: +2667 cases (now 296273), +235 deaths (now 16147) since a day ago | 16:36 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Quest warns of slowing test turnaround; Bill Gates says death rate could drop substantially → https://is.gd/7yi71U | 16:42 |
| LjL | could drop substantially... because of slowing test turnaround? ;( | 16:47 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health: (news): Bill Gates says delays in coronavirus test results make them a 'complete waste,' 'insane' → https://is.gd/VygtEa | 16:52 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Quest warns of slowing test turnaround; Bill Gates says death rate could drop substantially → https://is.gd/7yi71U | 17:02 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for World: +10047 cases (now 16.8 million), +207 deaths (now 658710) since 34 minutes ago — US: +9320 cases (now 4.4 million), +185 deaths (now 150713) since 34 minutes ago — Florida, US: +9230 cases (now 441977), +184 deaths (now 6117) since a day ago — India: +609 cases (now 1.5 million), +18 deaths (now 33866) since 34 minutes ago | 17:08 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Texas, US: +631 deaths (now 5883) since 12 hours ago — World: +3998 cases (now 16.8 million), +708 deaths (now 659418) since 19 minutes ago — Iraq: +2747 cases (now 115332), +77 deaths (now 4535) since a day ago — Alabama, US: +1251 cases (now 82366) since 23 hours ago | 17:23 |
| bin_bash | %cases texas | 17:35 |
| Brainstorm | bin_bash: In Texas, US, there have been 404179 confirmed cases (1.5% of the population) and 5883 deaths (1.5% of cases) as of 16 minutes ago. 3.7 million tests were performed (10.9% positive). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=US for time series data. | 17:35 |
| bin_bash | tinwhiskers: thanks for all your hard work on offloop, the data ia extremely valuable | 17:35 |
| bin_bash | %cases new york | 17:36 |
| Brainstorm | bin_bash: In New York, US, there have been 440462 confirmed cases (2.2% of the population) and 32708 deaths (7.4% of cases) as of 14 hours ago. 5.6 million tests were performed (7.8% positive). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=US for time series data. | 17:36 |
| bin_bash | that death rate discrepancy is fascinating | 17:36 |
| bin_bash | %cases florida | 17:36 |
| Brainstorm | bin_bash: In Florida, US, there have been 441977 confirmed cases (2.2% of the population) and 6119 deaths (1.4% of cases) as of 2 minutes ago. 3.4 million tests were performed (12.9% positive). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=US for time series data. | 17:36 |
| nixonix | in nyc it was early epidemic, when they couldnt test much, so mild and asymptomatic cases were rarely tested and thus high case fatality ratio. now they test much more, so young and healty with mild or even no symptoms may be tested, resulting low CFR. also when cases are increasing, those about to die havent had enough time to die | 17:44 |
| nixonix | so comparing CFR is meaningless | 17:44 |
| Brainstorm | New from BBC Health: (news): Coronavirus: Boris Johnson warns of Europe 'second wave' amid Spain row → https://is.gd/ygt1U9 | 17:52 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Health experts say virus is here to stay; biggest tech show of the year goes online-only → https://is.gd/7yi71U | 18:01 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for World: +8398 cases (now 16.8 million), +309 deaths (now 659727) since 49 minutes ago — US: +2972 cases (now 4.4 million), +130 deaths (now 151474) since 49 minutes ago — Arizona, US: +2107 cases (now 165934), +104 deaths (now 3408) since a day ago — Spain: +1828 cases (now 327690), +2 deaths (now 28436) since 18 hours ago | 18:08 |
| Brainstorm | New from BBC Health: Oldham coronavirus infection spike prompts new measures: The council is urging residents to follow extra precautions to avoid a "strict local lockdown". → https://is.gd/FvIHhA | 18:11 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Health experts say virus is here to stay; biggest tech show of the year goes online-only → https://is.gd/7yi71U | 18:21 |
| Brainstorm | New from BBC Health: (news): Coronavirus: Boris Johnson warns of Europe 'second wave' amid Spain row → https://is.gd/ygt1U9 | 18:31 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Barr: 'I don’t agree there is systemic racism in police departments' – live: Attorney general bemoans the ‘demonization of police’ after Floyd’s killing at House committee hearing Twitter restricts Donald Trump Jr’s account over Covid misinformation Sign up to our First Thing newsletter 5.29pm BST → https://is.gd/mX76wM | 18:40 |
| snake | i just bought a respirator, i assume medium will fit my face | 18:44 |
| snake | its a halfpiece facemask | 18:45 |
| snake | i bought a few different things for it | 18:45 |
| snake | a purple circle filter, and a "cartridge" | 18:45 |
| snake | do i need both? | 18:45 |
| snake | so confusing | 18:45 |
| de-facto | "Association of Cardiac Infection With SARS-CoV-2 in Confirmed COVID-19 Autopsy Cases" https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamacardiology/fullarticle/2768914 | 18:51 |
| snake | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCR3CqBag1A | 18:51 |
| snake | %title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCR3CqBag1A | 18:52 |
| Brainstorm | snake: From www.youtube.com: How to Attach Respirator Cartridges to Dual Cartridge Reusable Respirators | Tips from GEMPLER'S - YouTube | 18:52 |
| de-facto | ..."In this cohort study of 39 autopsy cases of patients with COVID-19, cardiac infection with SARS-CoV-2 was found to be frequent but not associated with myocarditislike influx of inflammatory cells into the myocardium."... | 18:52 |
| de-facto | ..."In this analysis of autopsy cases, viral presence within the myocardium could be documented. While a response to this infection could be reported in cases with higher virus load vs no virus infection, this was not associated with an influx of inflammatory cells. Future investigations should focus on evaluating the long-term consequences of this cardiac involvement."... | 18:52 |
| de-facto | "Outcomes of Cardiovascular Magnetic Resonance Imaging in Patients Recently Recovered From Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19)" https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamacardiology/fullarticle/2768916 | 18:52 |
| de-facto | ..."In this cohort study including 100 patients recently recovered from COVID-19 identified from a COVID-19 test center, cardiac magnetic resonance imaging revealed cardiac involvement in 78 patients (78%) and ongoing myocardial inflammation in 60 patients (60%), which was independent of preexisting conditions, severity and overall course of the acute illness, and the time from the original diagnosis."... | 18:52 |
| de-facto | ..."In this study of a cohort of German patients recently recovered from COVID-19 infection, CMR revealed cardiac involvement in 78 patients (78%) and ongoing myocardial inflammation in 60 patients (60%), independent of preexisting conditions, severity and overall course of the acute illness, and time from the original diagnosis. These findings indicate the need for ongoing investigation of the long-term cardiovascular consequences of | 18:52 |
| de-facto | COVID-19."... | 18:52 |
| snake | i watched the video but i dont get it | 18:55 |
| snake | why does he attach n95 and then a p100 | 18:55 |
| snake | if the p100 is standalone | 18:55 |
| Brainstorm | New from BBC Health: (news): Coronavirus: Boris Johnson warns of Europe 'second wave' amid Spain row → https://is.gd/ygt1U9 | 19:00 |
| snake | p is oil resistant, n95 is not | 19:07 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for World: +31273 cases (now 16.8 million), +756 deaths (now 660483) since an hour ago — India: +13626 cases (now 1.5 million), +358 deaths (now 34224) since 2 hours ago — Brazil: +9508 cases (now 2.5 million), +280 deaths (now 88017) since 12 hours ago — US: +4616 cases (now 4.5 million), +44 deaths (now 151518) since an hour ago | 19:08 |
| Brainstorm | New from StatNews: STAT Plus: Lawmakers urge federal watchdog to probe government’s role in discovering remdesivir: Despite investing significant resources in the development of remdesivir, the U.S. may spend billions of dollars to buy the drug, the lawmakers wrote. → https://is.gd/1Gzp4n | 19:10 |
| nixonix | i tried to google about developing remdesivir awhile ago, and couldnt really find the whole story | 19:12 |
| nixonix | i think remdesivir and eidd-2801 has origins in gileads molecule libraries, and bunch of people including ralph baric then studied those. but some other versions say, that gilead bought it from some us university | 19:13 |
| Jigsy | %cases UK | 19:16 |
| Brainstorm | Jigsy: In United Kingdom, there have been 300692 confirmed cases (0.5% of the population) and 45878 deaths (15.3% of cases) as of an hour ago. 15.0 million tests were performed (2.0% positive). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=United%20Kingdom for time series data. | 19:16 |
| CoronaBot | 04/r/coronavirus: Bill Gates Says Majority of U.S. Coronavirus Testing Is a 'Complete Waste' Because It Takes Too Long (10721 votes) | https://www.newsweek.com/bill-gates-says-majority-us-coronavirus-testing-complete-waste-because-it-takes-too-long-1521006 | https://redd.it/hzfa0v | 19:18 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express: World: Lineage behind novel coronavirus may have been ‘circulating unnoticed’ in bats for decades → https://is.gd/prYW3X | 19:20 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for World: +3326 cases (now 16.8 million), +73 deaths (now 660556) since 20 minutes ago — US: +2893 cases (now 4.5 million), +66 deaths (now 151584) since 20 minutes ago — Maldives: +137 cases (now 3506) since 22 hours ago — Illinois, US: +1076 cases (now 174973), +30 deaths (now 7638) since 22 hours ago | 19:23 |
| tinwhiskers | "New from The Indian Express: World: Lineage behind novel coronavirus may have been ‘circulating unnoticed’ in bats for decades" - no shit Sherlock? The lineage has been 'circulating unnoticed' for millennia. | 19:28 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Health experts say virus is here to stay; biggest tech show of the year goes online-only → https://is.gd/7yi71U | 19:30 |
| strike | %cases USA | 19:31 |
| Brainstorm | strike: In US, there have been 4.5 million confirmed cases (1.4% of the population) and 151584 deaths (3.4% of cases) as of 13 minutes ago. 55.0 million tests were performed (8.1% positive). Fatality can be broadly expected to lie between 0.6% (assuming prevalence as in tests) and less than 6.6% (considering only deaths and recoveries). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=US for time series data. | 19:31 |
| bin_bash | %cases arizona | 19:31 |
| Brainstorm | bin_bash: In Arizona, US, there have been 165934 confirmed cases (2.4% of the population) and 3408 deaths (2.1% of cases) as of an hour ago. 1.1 million tests were performed (15.3% positive). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=US for time series data. | 19:31 |
| jan[m]6 | %cases Germany | 19:35 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for World: +3412 cases (now 16.9 million), +253 deaths (now 660809) since 17 minutes ago — Kazakhstan: +208 deaths (now 793) since 12 hours ago — US: +1465 cases (now 4.5 million), +34 deaths (now 151618) since 17 minutes ago — India: +1419 cases (now 1.5 million) since 32 minutes ago | 19:35 |
| Brainstorm | jan[m]6: In Germany, there have been 207508 confirmed cases (0.2% of the population) and 9206 deaths (4.4% of cases) as of 32 minutes ago. 7.4 million tests were performed (2.8% positive). Fatality can be broadly expected to lie between 0.4% (assuming prevalence as in tests) and less than 4.6% (considering only deaths and recoveries). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=Germany for time series data. | 19:35 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health: Fauci says there are early signs coronavirus outbreaks are brewing in Ohio, Indiana, Kentucky and Tennessee: White House health advisor Dr. Anthony Fauci said Tuesday that he's concerned about the growing number of coronavirus tests returning positive in states such as Indiana, Ohio, Tennessee and Kentucky. → https://is.gd/p1wlZv | 19:39 |
| snake | figured out a cool hack to get your stuff faster on amazon | 19:59 |
| snake | from 3rd parties | 19:59 |
| snake | just request a cancellation and they will ship it immediately LOL | 19:59 |
| snake | i hope that thing works with the n95 stuff, i dont really understand it | 20:00 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for World: +4201 cases (now 16.9 million), +111 deaths (now 660920) since 36 minutes ago — US: +2728 cases (now 4.5 million), +88 deaths (now 151706) since 36 minutes ago — Mississippi, US: +1342 cases (now 54299), +42 deaths (now 1543) since 20 hours ago — Ohio, US: +1291 cases (now 86497), +31 deaths (now 3382) since 15 hours ago | 20:09 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus live news: WHO warns of 'one big wave'; Twitter restricts Donald Trump Jr account for misinformation → https://is.gd/RYijpH | 20:09 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health: Fauci says there are early signs coronavirus outbreaks are brewing in Ohio, Indiana, Kentucky and Tennessee: White House health advisor Dr. Anthony Fauci said Tuesday that he's concerned about the growing number of coronavirus tests returning positive in states such as Indiana, Ohio, Tennessee and Kentucky. → https://is.gd/p1wlZv | 20:19 |
| SaintMal | https://www.thedailybeast.com/stella-immanuel-trumps-new-covid-doctor-believes-in-alien-dna-demon-sperm-and-hydroxychloroquine | 20:26 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health: (news): Facebook, Twitter and YouTube pull 'false' coronavirus video after it goes viral → https://is.gd/TCaQsj | 20:28 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Barr: 'I don’t agree there is systemic racism in police departments' – live: Attorney general bemoans the ‘demonization of police’ after Floyd’s killing at House committee hearing Twitter restricts Donald Trump Jr’s account over Covid misinformation Sign up to our First Thing newsletter 7.30pm BST → https://is.gd/mX76wM | 20:38 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Signs outbreak is brewing in midwest; biggest tech show of the year goes online-only → https://is.gd/7yi71U | 20:48 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health: (news): Hospitals push Congress to forgive $100 billion in coronavirus aid Medicare loans → https://is.gd/5MPhaX | 20:58 |
| Brainstorm | New from BBC Health: (news): Coronavirus: Boris Johnson warns of Europe 'second wave' amid Spain row → https://is.gd/ygt1U9 | 21:08 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus live news: Italy extends state of emergency as WHO warns of 'one big wave' → https://is.gd/RYijpH | 21:27 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for World: +14208 cases (now 16.9 million), +336 deaths (now 661256) since an hour ago — South Africa: +7232 cases (now 459761), +190 deaths (now 7257) since 22 hours ago — US: +4528 cases (now 4.5 million), +64 deaths (now 151770) since an hour ago — Georgia (US), US: +4209 cases (now 175052), +54 deaths (now 3563) since a day ago | 21:39 |
| kevin-oculus | hi how is covid-19 on night clubs some have open but you must sit :)) | 21:42 |
| LjL | among the worst places to be | 21:43 |
| Arsanerit | they had some drive-in night clubs here, have to stay in your car | 21:43 |
| Arsanerit | tbh night clubs were among the worst places to be even before the pandemic | 21:44 |
| LjL | well, agreed, but that was subjective back then | 21:46 |
| Brainstorm | New from Ars Technica: Policy: Miami Marlins halt play for a week after COVID-19 outbreak [Updated] → https://is.gd/DyxFUc | 21:46 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus live news: Italy extends state of emergency as WHO warns of 'one big wave' → https://is.gd/RYijpH | 21:56 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for World: +11993 cases (now 16.9 million), +205 deaths (now 661461) since 49 minutes ago — US: +11629 cases (now 4.5 million), +195 deaths (now 151965) since 49 minutes ago — California, US: +3061 cases (now 469886), +55 deaths (now 8605) since 3 hours ago — Tennessee, US: +2555 cases (now 99044) since a day ago | 22:24 |
| CoronaBot | 04/r/covid19: Pfizer and BioNTech Pick a Vaccine Candidate (80 votes) | https://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archives/2020/07/28/pfizer-and-biontech-pick-a-vaccine-candidate | https://redd.it/hzhm6y | 22:25 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Joe Biden says Trump's divisiveness is 'the last thing we need' – live: Democrat says president has failed in his duty to care for entire country Attorney general bemoans the ‘demonization of police’ after Floyd’s killing at House committee hearing Twitter restricts Donald Trump Jr’s account over Covid misinformation [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/mX76wM | 22:26 |
| Brainstorm | New from NIH Director's blog: Director's Album: Another Milestone in COVID-19 Vaccine Research → https://is.gd/HT3CYl | 22:35 |
| Brainstorm | New from StatNews: STAT Plus: Cepheid is accused of overcharging and undersupplying its Covid-19 test to poor countries: A manufacturer of rapid, point-of care tests is being urged to lower the price of its diagnostic and also increase sales to a World Health Organization diagnostics consortium designed to… → https://is.gd/KKyXee | 22:55 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Signs outbreak is brewing in midwest; biggest tech show of the year goes online-only → https://is.gd/7yi71U | 23:15 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for World: +9148 cases (now 16.9 million), +78 deaths (now 661539) since an hour ago — US: +7050 cases (now 4.5 million), +48 deaths (now 152013) since an hour ago — Texas, US: +4791 cases (now 408970) since 6 hours ago — Guatemala: +1142 cases (now 46451), +21 deaths (now 1782) since 22 hours ago | 23:24 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health: Watch live: White House coronavirus advisor Dr. Anthony Fauci interviewed by Reuters: Reuters international news agency is interviewing Dr. Anthony Fauci, a member of the White House coronavirus task force, as the nation struggles to contain the coronavirus outbreak. → https://is.gd/fG2F1x | 23:34 |
| CoronaBot | 04/r/covid19: Immune T Cells May Offer Lasting Protection Against COVID-19 (82 votes) | https://directorsblog.nih.gov/2020/07/28/immune-t-cells-may-offer-lasting-protection-against-covid-19/ | https://redd.it/hzkj6v | 23:44 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Signs outbreak is brewing in midwest; biggest tech show of the year goes online-only → https://is.gd/7yi71U | 23:44 |
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