libera/##covid-19/ Monday, 2020-08-03

BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Coronavirus live news: Melbourne under curfew; worldwide cases near 18m: Hundreds of ‘mystery cases’ have forced decision in Australian state of Victoria ; India records nearly 55,000 new cases ; UK planning to avoid a second national lockdown ; → https://is.gd/yJpyF600:07
BrainstormUpdates for Colombia: +11470 cases (now 317651), +320 deaths (now 10650) since a day ago — World: +20006 cases (now 18.3 million), +533 deaths (now 692982) since an hour ago — Peru: +6667 cases (now 428850), +206 deaths (now 19614) since 18 hours ago — US: +1323 cases (now 4.8 million), +4 deaths (now 158310) since an hour ago00:22
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Health: Australia coronavirus live update: Daniel Andrews to announce more stage 4 restrictions after Victoria's first night under curfew – latest news → https://is.gd/2UxRVB00:27
CoronaBot04/r/coronavirus: Dr. Fauci Says Early Results from Coronavirus Vaccine Are 'Very Good News' (10260 votes) | https://people.com/health/phase-1-results-in-experimental-coronavirus-vaccine-prove-promising/ | https://redd.it/i2ectj00:35
LjLcurfews seem like prominent but isolated decisions00:52
LjLwhat do they bring, practically, compared to a comprehensive lockdown?00:52
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Coronavirus live news: Melbourne under curfew; worldwide cases near 18m: Hundreds of ‘mystery cases’ have forced decision in Australian state of Victoria ; India records nearly 55,000 new cases ; UK planning to avoid a second national lockdown ; → https://is.gd/yJpyF600:56
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Health: Australia coronavirus live update: Daniel Andrews to announce more stage 4 restrictions after Victoria's first night under curfew – latest news → https://is.gd/2UxRVB01:26
LjL%title https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-5359896501:55
BrainstormLjL: From www.bbc.com: Coronavirus: Iran cover-up of deaths revealed by data leak - BBC News01:55
LjL... and cases, by twice the amount01:56
LjLdeaths being three times01:56
LjLthe numbers aren't "real" anywhere but in this case it's not about counting excess deaths, it just appears to be numbers the government has but kept for itself01:57
BrainstormUpdates for World: +5524 cases (now 18.3 million), +103 deaths (now 693085) since an hour ago — US: +2851 cases (now 4.8 million), +37 deaths (now 158347) since an hour ago — Texas, US: +1222 cases (now 454364), +29 deaths (now 7325) since an hour ago — Panama: +1070 cases (now 67453), +22 deaths (now 1471) since 23 hours ago02:08
CoronaBot04/r/covid19: Correction: the places of contamination are family contexts and not nightclubs (83 votes) | https://www.bag.admin.ch/bag/fr/home/das-bag/aktuell/news/news-02-08-2020.html | https://redd.it/i2k25g02:11
BrainstormUpdates for Sint Maarten: +18 cases (now 146), +1 deaths (now 16) since 2 days ago — World: +19 cases (now 18.3 million), +19 deaths (now 693104) since 21 minutes ago — US: +18 deaths (now 158365) since 21 minutes ago — Texas, US: +16 deaths (now 7341) since 21 minutes ago02:23
BrainstormUpdates for Bahamas: +49 cases (now 648) since a day ago — World: +208 cases (now 18.3 million) since 19 minutes ago — Paraguay: +159 cases (now 5644) since 23 hours ago02:38
BrainstormNew from https://covid19.specops.network *: ljl-covid: Update changing Guardian tracker URL → https://is.gd/gg4KYA03:03
CoronaBot04/r/covid19: Dozens of COVID-19 vaccines are in development. Here are the ones to follow. (81 votes) | https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/health-and-human-body/human-diseases/coronavirus-vaccine-tracker-how-they-work-latest-developments-cvd.html | https://redd.it/i2ke1g03:06
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Coronavirus live news: Global cases near 18m as Melbourne braces for further lockdown measures: Residents in state of Victoria wake up after first night of curfew ; ‘major incident’ declared in Manchester ; Nancy Pelosi says she has no confidence in Birx over handling of pandemic . Follow the latest updates → https://is.gd/2gDwwz03:13
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Health: Coronavirus Australia live update: Victoria premier Daniel Andrews to announce more stage four restrictions as NSW reports 13 new Covid-19 cases – latest news → https://is.gd/2UxRVB03:33
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Coronavirus live news: Global cases near 18m as Melbourne braces for further lockdown measures: Residents in state of Victoria wake up after first night of curfew ; ‘major incident’ declared in Manchester ; Nancy Pelosi says she has no confidence in Birx over handling of pandemic . Follow the latest updates → https://is.gd/2gDwwz04:02
BrainstormUpdates for World: +11691 cases (now 18.3 million), +401 deaths (now 693505) since an hour ago — Argentina: +5376 cases (now 201919), +36 deaths (now 3648) since 9 hours ago — Mexico: +4853 cases (now 439046), +274 deaths (now 47746) since a day ago — Bolivia: +1360 cases (now 80153), +89 deaths (now 3153) since 23 hours ago04:08
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Health: Coronavirus Australia live update: Victoria premier Daniel Andrews to announce more stage four restrictions as NSW reports 13 new Covid-19 cases – latest news → https://is.gd/2UxRVB04:21
palmolivelol AC'9705:00
CoronaBot04/r/coronavirus: 1918 pandemic. During a football game. Everyone is wearing a mask. 102 years ago. (10369 votes) | https://www.si.com/college/tmg/tony-barnhart/spanish-flu | https://redd.it/i2i3jd05:01
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Coronavirus live news: Global cases near 18m as Melbourne braces for further lockdown measures: Residents in state of Victoria wake up after first night of curfew ; ‘major incident’ declared in Manchester ; Nancy Pelosi says she has no confidence in Birx over handling of pandemic . Follow the latest updates → https://is.gd/2gDwwz05:01
ap4lmtreemy mom called me and said she had difficulty sleeping last night and was sweating. she wanted to go to the doctor for allegies05:19
ap4lmtreei told her she needs to stay home because she might have the virus. then, she didn't want to hear it and argued and hung up05:19
ap4lmtreei repetitively tried to call her to tell her she needs to stay away from other people and she needs to wait to see how things develop05:20
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Health: Coronavirus Australia live update: Victoria premier Daniel Andrews to announce more stage four restrictions as NSW reports 13 new Covid-19 cases – latest news → https://is.gd/2UxRVB05:20
ap4lmtreei told her to stay inside and not use the bus, but yesterday i had to drive her home after she used a bus to go to her public storage 05:20
ap4lmtreeand she didn't use my the kn95 powecom mask until after i picked her up. i alter told her to take a shower, but i now doubt she did that05:21
ap4lmtreei just now talked to her, and told her to drink water and rest, and that she has to wait05:26
ap4lmtreeshe has to wait to see if she has something and it develops05:26
ketasi was out when feeling bit sick because not eating is worse05:27
jacklswhope she's all right05:27
jacklswbrought her for checkup?05:28
palmoliveis the covid19 dangerous ??05:29
ap4lmtreeshe is korean and doesn't understand english well. She hasn't fully understood how deadly dangerous and contagious this virus is05:29
palmolivefucskksa kes05:30
ap4lmtreepalmolive, it is like satan standing in front of you daring you to touch him or mess with him05:30
palmoliveap4lmtree damn boi05:30
LjLap4lmtree, has she checked her temperature?05:33
LjLpalmolive, do you plan to be a clown or is it just the way you introduce yourself?05:33
palmoliveLjL yes05:33
LjLas in, both?05:34
palmoliveyoure scaring me05:34
LjLwell i need to go to bed, so if you need to be banned let's make it quick and easy05:35
ap4lmtreeLjL, she might have nothing, it might be summer and she is hot, if she feels worse tomoror or a few days, i might call a hospital05:35
ap4lmtreeLjL, many dont have a fever either05:36
palmoliveLjL damn boi you have the police syndrome05:36
ap4lmtreeif she is sick  or anyone is sick and she or anyone starts other symptoms light coughing or so, i guess it is better she get admitted. she is 75. However, if she has fatigue without coughing, it might be best for her to do breathing exercises at home.05:41
ap4lmtreecovid wards have high virial loads that are spreading within the wards, dont you think?05:42
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Coronavirus live news: Global cases pass 18m as Melbourne braces for further lockdown measures: Residents in state of Victoria wake up after first night of curfew ; ‘major incident’ declared in Manchester ; Nancy Pelosi says she has no confidence in Birx over handling of pandemic . Follow the latest updates → https://is.gd/2gDwwz05:50
ap4lmtreelogically, if doctors within wards get sick, and do have high virial loads, then it does spread within wards05:57
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Health: Coronavirus Australia live update: Victoria premier Daniel Andrews to announce more stage four restrictions as NSW reports 13 new Covid-19 cases – latest news → https://is.gd/2UxRVB06:09
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Watch: Chinese scientist claims Covid-19 started in 'military lab' after fleeing to US → https://is.gd/2JlNZc06:59
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Health: Coronavirus Australia live update: Victoria premier Daniel Andrews to announce more stage four restrictions as NSW reports 13 new Covid-19 cases – latest news → https://is.gd/2UxRVB07:09
BrainstormUpdates for World: +7116 cases (now 18.3 million), +83 deaths (now 693588) since 3 hours ago — Kosovo: +695 cases (now 8799), +37 deaths (now 249) since 3 days ago — Japan: +1312 cases (now 39116), +1 deaths (now 1013) since a day ago — Ukraine: +1152 cases (now 73761), +16 deaths (now 1749) since a day ago07:09
BrainstormUpdates for Lima, Peru: +8909 cases (now 222568), +266 deaths (now 9259) since a day ago — Arequipa, Peru: +1753 cases (now 15233), +50 deaths (now 776) since a day ago — Maharashtra, India: +9509 cases (now 441228), +260 deaths (now 15576) since a day ago — Ica, Peru: +875 cases (now 13088), +53 deaths (now 866) since a day ago07:39
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Coronavirus live news: Global cases pass 18m as Melbourne braces for further lockdown measures: Residents in state of Victoria wake up after first night of curfew ; ‘major incident’ declared in Manchester ; Nancy Pelosi says she has no confidence in Birx over handling of pandemic . Follow the latest updates → https://is.gd/2gDwwz07:39
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Health: Coronavirus Australia live update: Victoria records 429 new Covid-19 cases  and 13 deaths as premier Daniel Andrews announces more stage 4 restrictions in press conference → https://is.gd/2UxRVB07:59
BrainstormNew from The Indian Express: World: Philippine capital returning to lockdown as virus surges → https://is.gd/aRDBSI09:37
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Health: Coronavirus Australia live update: PM announces $1,500 paid pandemic leave as Victoria premier Dan Andrews outlines business restrictions → https://is.gd/2UxRVB09:47
BrainstormNew from The Indian Express (Health): Health: Things to know before going for your COVID-19 tests → https://is.gd/hsGcRk09:57
BrainstormNew from The Indian Express: World: Parents struggle as schools reopen amid coronavirus surge → https://is.gd/35yw3j10:16
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Health: Coronavirus Australia live update: PM announces $1,500 paid pandemic leave as Victoria records 429 new cases and 13 deaths → https://is.gd/2UxRVB10:26
BrainstormNew from StatNews: Health: This tiny Texas company is running most of the drive-thru Covid-19 testing in the U.S. → https://is.gd/FttbRJ10:36
BrainstormNew from The Indian Express: World: Coronavirus Global Updates, August 3: Cases in Latin America inch closer to 5 million; Britain to roll out 90-minute virus tests → https://is.gd/FvvVHm10:46
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Coronavirus live news: Global cases pass 18m as Melbourne braces for further lockdown measures: Residents in state of Victoria wake up after first night of curfew ; ‘major incident’ declared in Manchester ; Nancy Pelosi says she has no confidence in Birx over handling of pandemic → https://is.gd/2gDwwz10:55
ap4lmtreedo any of you have any friends or relatives that has or has had covid-19 virus?10:58
blkshpI have had 2 work colleagues that had it.11:00
blkshpOne continued to come into work every day because at the time (very early feb) no one knew about it.11:00
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Australian politics: Labor condemns Craig Kelly’s suggestion Daniel Andrews could ‘face 25 years in jail’ for hydroxychloroquine ban → https://is.gd/nenmqr11:15
BrainstormNew from BBC Health: (news): Coronavirus: New 90-minute tests for Covid-19 and flu 'hugely beneficial' → https://is.gd/x4FzW911:35
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Coronavirus outbreak: UK coronavirus live: 90-minute tests to speed up Covid-19 and flu diagnosis, government claims → https://is.gd/Rfz70q11:44
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Paul Ehrlich Institute in Germany confident that vaccine will soon be available → https://is.gd/HeMSKP12:14
BrainstormNew from The Indian Express (Health): Feelings: Finland’s Prime Minister Sanna Marin shows how to marry in a pandemic → https://is.gd/LfAYnj12:24
BrainstormNew from BBC Health: (news): Coronavirus: New 90-minute tests for Covid-19 and flu 'hugely beneficial' → https://is.gd/x4FzW912:43
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Coronavirus live news: Global cases pass 18m as Melbourne braces for further lockdown measures: Residents in state of Victoria wake up after first night of curfew ; ‘major incident’ declared in Manchester ; Nancy Pelosi says she has no confidence in Birx over handling of pandemic → https://is.gd/2gDwwz13:03
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: Russia gears up for mass vaccination against coronavirus despite international skepticism: Doctors and teachers would be the first to be vaccinated, Russia's health minister said, while mass vaccinations are planned for October. → https://is.gd/WrlZ0713:13
BrainstormNew from BBC Health: (news): Coronavirus: New 90-minute tests for Covid-19 and flu 'hugely beneficial' → https://is.gd/x4FzW913:22
BrainstormNew from Scientific American: Health: How to Evaluate COVID-19 News without Freaking Out → https://is.gd/tX6Wp213:32
BrainstormUpdates for World: +22499 cases (now 18.3 million), +557 deaths (now 694161) since 6 hours ago — Russia: +5394 cases (now 856264), +79 deaths (now 14207) since a day ago — Philippines: +3145 cases (now 106330), +45 deaths (now 2104) since a day ago — Iran: +2598 cases (now 312035), +215 deaths (now 17405) since a day ago13:35
Jigsy%cases UK13:44
BrainstormJigsy: In United Kingdom, there have been 304695 confirmed cases (0.5% of the population) and 46201 deaths (15.2% of cases) as of 19 hours ago. 16.5 million tests were performed (1.8% positive). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=United%20Kingdom for time series data.13:44
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Coronavirus outbreak: UK coronavirus live: 90-minute tests to speed up Covid-19 and flu diagnosis, government claims → https://is.gd/Rfz70q13:52
CoronaBot04/r/coronavirus: CDC predicts up to 11,000 people will die every week this month from coronavirus (10129 votes) | https://www.cbsnews.com/video/cdc-predicts-up-to-11000-people-will-die-every-week-this-month-from-coronavirus/ | https://redd.it/i2n9ve13:52
Erroneous_Nickna%cases Honduras13:59
BrainstormErroneous_Nickna: In Honduras, there have been 43197 confirmed cases (0.5% of the population) and 1377 deaths (3.2% of cases) as of 7 hours ago. 105820 tests were performed (40.8% positive). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=Honduras for time series data.13:59
Erroneous_Nickna%cases US14:00
BrainstormErroneous_Nickna: In US, there have been 4.8 million confirmed cases (1.5% of the population) and 158375 deaths (3.3% of cases) as of 27 minutes ago. 59.9 million tests were performed (8.0% positive). Fatality can be broadly expected to lie between 0.6% (assuming prevalence as in tests) and less than 6.2% (considering only deaths and recoveries). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=US for time series data.14:00
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: High odds severe Covid-19 can lead to kidney injury or failure, medical studies reveal: Medical experts are using AI technology developed by RenalytixAI to identify biomarkers in Covid-19 patients with the highest risk of kidney injury. → https://is.gd/76CzMw14:11
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Eli Lilly begins late-stage trials for antibody drug; Russia plans mass vaccination → https://is.gd/DeMng214:21
ubLIX[m]about fomite transmission, this was posted here on July 6th, but didn't seem to generate much comment here: https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(20)30561-2/fulltext14:25
ubLIX[m]although it has generated a flurry of remarks elsewhere on the internet, the gist of which seems to be that "just don't touch your face" is much more significant than "sanitise all the things", and that even much more significant still is the airborne factor14:27
ubLIX[m]on July 27th, The Atlantic based an article on this notion: https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/07/scourge-hygiene-theater/614599/14:30
ubLIX[m]it's tricky, cos the devil is in the details14:30
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: Russia gears up for mass vaccination against coronavirus despite international skepticism: Doctors and teachers would be the first to be vaccinated, Russia's health minister said, while mass vaccinations are planned for October. → https://is.gd/WrlZ0714:31
BrainstormUpdates for World: +6880 cases (now 18.3 million), +71 deaths (now 694232) since an hour ago — India: +4642 cases (now 1.8 million), +48 deaths (now 38249) since an hour ago — Ghana: +798 cases (now 37812), +9 deaths (now 191) since a day ago — US: +456 cases (now 4.8 million) since an hour ago14:35
ubLIX[m]I guess it should be "Relax somewhat about sanitising your groceries, especially if you are able to quarantine them for a few days, but you might as well wash your hands after handling. Shoot anyone you see not wearing an egress-protecting mask. And just don't touch your face, unless it is immediately after you have washed your hands."14:39
ubLIX[m]s/shoot/briskly stroll away from/14:39
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Coronavirus outbreak: UK coronavirus live: '90-minute tests to speed up Covid diagnosis'; Sturgeon warns pubs could close if cases rise → https://is.gd/Rfz70q14:41
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Eli Lilly begins late-stage trials for antibody drug; Russia plans mass vaccination → https://is.gd/DeMng214:50
Erroneous_NicknaInteresting report. It seems to differ depending on the type of coronavirus and amount of viral load14:55
Erroneous_Nicknamaybe I'm reading it wrong :D14:55
Erroneous_Nicknawill the salt on my Hunky Dory  potato crips kill it?14:56
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: Russia gears up for mass vaccination against coronavirus despite international skepticism: Doctors and teachers would be the first to be vaccinated, Russia's health minister said, while mass vaccinations are planned for October. → https://is.gd/WrlZ0715:00
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: High odds severe Covid-19 can lead to kidney injury or failure, medical studies reveal: Medical experts are using AI technology developed by RenalytixAI to identify biomarkers in Covid-19 patients with the highest risk of kidney injury. → https://is.gd/76CzMw15:10
ubLIX[m]why? are you going to eat them after somebody coughed in the packet? or eat anything whilst in an indoor environment harbouring significant quantities of airborne virus?15:15
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Coronavirus outbreak: UK coronavirus live: '90-minute tests to speed up Covid diagnosis'; Sturgeon warns pubs could close if cases rise → https://is.gd/Rfz70q15:20
BrainstormNew from StatNews: Pharma: STAT Plus: Pharmalittle: Lilly starts late-stage trial of Covid-19 antibody; concern grows over political intervention on Covid-19 vaccine → https://is.gd/fzOseJ15:30
BrainstormUpdates for World: +13043 cases (now 18.4 million), +239 deaths (now 694471) since an hour ago — India: +6430 cases (now 1.8 million), +126 deaths (now 38375) since an hour ago — Iraq: +2735 cases (now 131886), +66 deaths (now 4934) since a day ago — Virginia, US: +1324 cases (now 93106) since a day ago15:35
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Eli Lilly begins late-stage trials for antibody drug; Russia plans mass vaccination → https://is.gd/DeMng215:39
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: High odds severe Covid-19 can lead to kidney injury or failure, medical studies reveal: Medical experts are using AI technology developed by RenalytixAI to identify biomarkers in Covid-19 patients with the highest risk of kidney injury. → https://is.gd/76CzMw15:59
ap4lmtreeyesterday, my mom said she was sweating at night and had difficulty sleeping, so i guess she might have covid 19 virus and might die within two months from it16:03
CoronaBot04/r/covid19: T-cell driven immunity from earlier infections with other coronaviruses might help against COVID-19 (90 votes) | https://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archives/2020/07/15/new-data-on-t-cells-and-the-coronavirus | https://redd.it/i2uwzj16:05
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Eli Lilly begins late-stage trials for antibody drug; Russia plans mass vaccination → https://is.gd/DeMng216:09
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: WHO says there's no 'silver bullet' to defeat coronavirus and 'there might never be': For now, world leaders can stop new outbreaks by practicing the "basics" of public health and disease control, the WHO chief said. → https://is.gd/SYEGW216:18
CoronaBot04/r/covid19: Roll-out of 2 new rapid coronavirus tests ahead of winter (81 votes) | https://www.gov.uk/government/news/roll-out-of-2-new-rapid-coronavirus-tests-ahead-of-winter | https://redd.it/i2teg616:35
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Eli Lilly begins late-stage trials for antibody drug; Russia plans mass vaccination → https://is.gd/DeMng216:38
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: Russia gears up for mass vaccination against coronavirus despite international skepticism: Doctors and teachers would be the first to be vaccinated, Russia's health minister said, while mass vaccinations are planned for October. → https://is.gd/WrlZ0716:48
BrainstormUpdates for World: +18881 cases (now 18.4 million), +242 deaths (now 694713) since an hour ago — India: +11749 cases (now 1.8 million), +110 deaths (now 38485) since an hour ago — US: +5799 cases (now 4.8 million), +81 deaths (now 158457) since an hour ago — Florida, US: +4752 cases (now 491884), +73 deaths (now 7157) since 22 hours ago16:51
LjLubLIX[m]: sanitizing all the things may seem like much but it's actually much easier than "never" touching your face16:51
LjLI guess when everybody in supermarkets is wearing masks the risk it's on your groceries is lower thiugh16:52
LjL%title https://www.businessinsider.com/vietnam-coronavirus-spike-new-strain-3-times-more-infectious-2020-816:57
BrainstormLjL: From www.businessinsider.com: Vietnam says new COVID-19 strain behind spike is 3x more infectious - Business Insider16:57
LjLis this going to be the same already-known-as-more-infectious strain that mostly dominates Europe and the US, or a novel surprise?16:57
LjL"While the strain is new in Vietnam, it has been seen before in Bangladesh, Britain, and Ireland, according to Vietnamese scientists."16:57
BrainstormNew from BBC Health: (news): Coronavirus: New 90-minute tests for Covid-19 and flu 'hugely beneficial' → https://is.gd/x4FzW916:58
LjLBritain and Ireland seems a bit random16:58
LjL> "One big difference I've noticed between this wave and the previous one is that the cases we have right now, a lot of them are severe," he said.16:58
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus: 80% of new cases in Trafford are among white community → https://is.gd/iEVvIB17:07
BrainstormUpdates for World: +3098 cases (now 18.4 million), +57 deaths (now 694770) since 32 minutes ago — Alabama, US: +1217 cases (now 92661), +6 deaths (now 1633) since 22 hours ago — US: +1218 cases (now 4.8 million), +6 deaths (now 158463) since 32 minutes ago — Ethiopia: +583 cases (now 19289), +26 deaths (now 336) since 22 hours ago17:21
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Coronavirus live news: world may never find 'silver bullet' Covid vaccine, says WHO: Belgium sees ICU admissions double ; Singapore to use electronic tags to monitor some travellers ; global cases pass 18m; Belgium ICU admissions double → https://is.gd/2gDwwz17:27
BrainstormNew from Gazzetta Ufficiale italiana: MINISTERO DELLA SALUTE - ORDINANZA 1 agosto 2020: Ulteriori misure  urgenti  in  materia  di  contenimento  e  gestionedell'emergenza epidemiologica da COVID-19. (20A04245) → https://is.gd/W4hON617:37
LjLplease tell me they blocked lombardy's restoring of full capacity on public transport17:37
LjLoh bah it's just the extension of mandatory mask wearing17:38
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: Russia gears up for mass vaccination against coronavirus despite international skepticism: Doctors and teachers would be the first to be vaccinated, Russia's health minister said, while mass vaccinations are planned for October. → https://is.gd/WrlZ0717:46
BrainstormNew from The Guardian: Coronavirus outbreak: UK coronavirus live: '90-minute tests to speed up Covid diagnosis'; Sturgeon warns pubs could close if cases rise → https://is.gd/Rfz70q17:56
BrainstormNew from BBC Health: (news): Coronavirus: New 90-minute tests for Covid-19 and flu 'hugely beneficial' → https://is.gd/x4FzW918:06
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Eli Lilly begins late-stage trials for antibody drug; Russia plans mass vaccination → https://is.gd/DeMng218:16
ubLIX[m]idk LjL, i can travel to and get a quantity of supplies from the nearest town, stored away, and then forgotten about for several days, without touching  my face immediately after touching a 'hot' item all the while. i was used to keeping track of items touched, 'hot' and 'clean' items, before the pandemic, though. what appealed to me about the linked lancet note, though, was its pointing at the seeming relative futility18:19
ubLIX[m]of attending to fomites if indoor air factors are ignored, since indoor air seems in significance to dwarf other transmission modes.18:19
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: (news): Covid-19 testing delays create a public health nightmare as schools and workplaces try to reopen → https://is.gd/7QXgmu18:25
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Eli Lilly begins late-stage trials for antibody drug; Russia plans mass vaccination → https://is.gd/DeMng218:35
CoronaBot04/r/coronavirus: Georgia teenager loses both parents to COVID-19 within a week (10098 votes) | https://abcnews.go.com/Health/georgia-teenager-loses-parents-covid-19-week/story?id=72133825 | https://redd.it/i2uu3018:48
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: Coronavirus cases ease in Sun Belt states as nationwide deaths climb: Coronavirus outbreaks that have torn through California, Florida, Texas and Arizona have started to decline, according to a CNBC analysis of data compiled by Johns Hopkins University. → https://is.gd/b8khP819:05
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Eli Lilly begins late-stage trials; outbreaks in Florida, California on the decline → https://is.gd/DeMng219:14
LjLItaly has announced results for the 150k people (hopefully? there were many refusals) seroprevalence survey, and they say countrywide it's 2.5%, with 20% in Bergamo. I suppose it's not been published yet, I can't find it anyway, and http://www.salute.gov.it/portale/nuovocoronavirus/dettaglioNotizieNuovoCoronavirus.jsp?lingua=italiano&menu=notizie&p=dalministero&id=4814 hasn't been updated with the results.20:17
LjLOh, there are results in Italian here: http://www.salute.gov.it/portale/nuovocoronavirus/dettaglioNotizieNuovoCoronavirus.jsp?lingua=italiano&id=4998  it says they only actually tested 64660 people so I wonder if they could retain an unbiased sample...20:19
LjLLombardy would have a prevalence of 7.5%20:19
LjL27.3% were asymptomatic20:20
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LjL42% of people who had a patient living with them became positive20:28
LjLin general if you've had a known contact with a positive, your likelihood of becoming positive was 16.4%20:29
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LjLThere is now an open source implementation of the Google exposure notification API, which is probably going to be available in the next release of microG: https://github.com/microg/android_packages_apps_GmsCore/issues/1057#issuecomment-66817183720:36
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LjLheh, a degree21:36
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LjL> The researchers found that although young children had a somewhat lower risk of infection than adults and were less likely to become ill, children age 14 and younger transmit the virus more efficiently to other children and adults than adults themselves. Their risk of transmitting Covid-19 was 22.4 percent—more than twice that of adults aged 30 to 49, whose rate of contagiousness was about 11 percent.22:21
LjLhttps://www.forbes.com/sites/williamhaseltine/2020/07/31/new-evidence-suggests-young-children-spread-covid-19-more-efficiently-than-adults/22:21
LjLthis contradicts the Vo' study, but to be fair that had a small number of children as a sample22:21
LjLbut i'm perplexed, i think there were multiple indications that children were bad spreaders...22:22
LjLyuriwho, ↑22:22
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dzhoLjL: not sure, but I suspect there was the idea that since children seemed not to show as much pathology maybe there was a folk idea that children weren't as bad at spreading? 23:03
dzhoon the other hand, I think there's a certain recognition that children's compliance with hygeine methods are not to be relied upon23:04
LjLwell i didn't get it from folks, i got it from studies23:04
dzhoif that is the mechanism for what this study reports, I don't know23:04
LjLaside from the Vo' study, there is https://www.sciencemuseumgroup.org.uk/blog/hunting-down-covid-19/23:04
dzhovo' ?23:05
dzholol that's not as horrible of a search term as I expected23:05
LjLdzho, this study https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.17.20053157v123:06
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LjLuhm it might not have bee that study, that one just says no children seemed infected23:09
LjLi distinctly remember one where they said they had a bunch of children living with adults, and none of the adults was infected, and that was statistically unlikely unless children were bad spreaders23:10
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