libera/##covid-19/ Wednesday, 2020-09-09

BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: AstraZeneca shares drop 6% after company announces 'routine' safety pause in coronavirus vaccine trial: AstraZeneca shares tumbled in after-hours trading Tuesday after the company said its late-stage trial for a potential coronavirus vaccine had been put on hold due to safety concerns. → https://is.gd/gopEig00:05
BrainstormNew from Ars Technica: Science: COVID vaccine makers vow science—not Trump—will dictate release timing → https://is.gd/GzKuDt00:15
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: AstraZeneca shares drop 6% after company announces 'routine' safety pause in coronavirus vaccine trial: AstraZeneca shares tumbled in after-hours trading Tuesday after the company said its late-stage trial for a potential coronavirus vaccine had been put on hold due to safety concerns. → https://is.gd/gopEig00:25
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Summer air travel down 76%, drugmakers pledge to prioritize vaccine safety → https://is.gd/S6W97q00:35
CoronaBot04/r/covid19: “When Will We Have a Vaccine?” — Understanding Questions and Answers about Covid-19 Vaccination (81 votes) | https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp2025331 | https://redd.it/iowk6900:50
BrainstormUpdates for Argentina: +12027 cases (now 500034), +226 deaths (now 10405) since 6 hours ago — World: +26159 cases (now 27.8 million), +578 deaths (now 901855) since an hour ago — Colombia: +7665 cases (now 679513), +202 deaths (now 21817) since 23 hours ago — US: +3621 cases (now 6.5 million), +59 deaths (now 193934) since an hour ago01:07
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: AstraZeneca shares drop 6% after company announces 'routine' safety pause in coronavirus vaccine trial: AstraZeneca shares tumbled in after-hours trading Tuesday after the company said its late-stage trial for a potential coronavirus vaccine had been put on hold due to safety concerns. → https://is.gd/gopEig01:27
BrainstormNew from BBC Health: (news): Coronavirus: Oxford University vaccine trial paused after participant falls ill → https://is.gd/QURRGE01:37
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: Qiagen to launch rapid coronavirus test it says could be used in airports and stadiums: In a statement, Qiagen CEO Thierry Bernard added that the antigen tests are meant to supplement, not replace, the molecular, or PCR, tests, which are the most accurate tests on the market. → https://is.gd/avueyg02:08
LjL<CoronaBot> /r/coronavirus: AstraZeneca Covid-19 vaccine study put on hold due to suspected adverse reaction in participant in the U.K. (1023 votes)02:17
LjL<CoronaBot> https://www.statnews.com/2020/09/08/astrazeneca-covid-19-vaccine-study-put-on-hold-due-to-suspected-adverse-reaction-in-participant-in-the-u-k/ | https://redd.it/ip2ka702:17
LjLhttps://www.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/ip2ka7/astrazeneca_covid19_vaccine_study_put_on_hold_due/g4hjyv4/02:37
LjLthis doesn't sound good02:37
BrainstormUpdates for World: +10595 cases (now 27.8 million), +210 deaths (now 902065) since an hour ago — Martinique: +181 cases (now 939) since 4 days ago — US: +3954 cases (now 6.5 million), +78 deaths (now 194012) since an hour ago — Brazil: +3051 cases (now 4.2 million), +53 deaths (now 127517) since 3 hours ago02:38
BrainstormUpdates for Congo: +12 deaths (now 114) since a day ago — World: +415 cases (now 27.8 million), +14 deaths (now 902079) since 19 minutes ago — US: +410 cases (now 6.5 million), +2 deaths (now 194014) since 19 minutes ago — Curacao: +5 cases (now 107) since a day ago02:53
BrainstormNew from BBC Health: (news): Coronavirus: Social gatherings above six banned in England from 14 September → https://is.gd/Tst2Y402:59
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Sturgis rally may have caused 250,000 new coronavirus cases, study finds → https://is.gd/YIHYY003:20
BrainstormUpdates for Tunisia: +293 cases (now 5417), +2 deaths (now 96) since a day ago — World: +809 cases (now 27.8 million), +20 deaths (now 902099) since 34 minutes ago — US: +516 cases (now 6.5 million), +18 deaths (now 194032) since 34 minutes ago03:23
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Houston firefighter who received experimental COVID-19 drug dies → https://is.gd/yXgJv203:30
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: US holidays during Covid: yes to trick-or-treating, no to Santa mall photos → https://is.gd/qA2Qsc04:00
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: England bans gatherings of more than 6 as virus cases spike → https://is.gd/j4G7Wo04:10
CoronaBot04/r/covid19: Facial Masking for Covid-19 — Potential for “Variolation” as We Await a Vaccine (81 votes) | https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp2026913 | https://redd.it/ip2gwh04:25
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Here's how many airline passengers have been banned for not wearing face masks → https://is.gd/zJaism04:41
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: The Contagion Externality of a Superspreading Event: The Sturgis Motorcycle Rally and COVID-19 → https://is.gd/BPmEsh04:51
kreyren[m]How do you know that you no longer spread the virus after you were in contact with it?04:57
LjLkreyren[m], you take two PCR tests and they both turn out negative, that's the standard thing that is done04:58
kreyren[m]I apparently got small dose of particles 5 days ago where day 1-2 I had temperature 37.2C and had a sore throat and day3 i was back to normal 04:58
kreyren[m]LjL what if its in situation alike mine where it may be a common flu and I aint letting a cosmonaut pick out my brain using a cotton thingy ~04:59
LjLkreyren[m], then you don't get to know05:00
kreyren[m]Where I am living in an isolated environment05:00
LjLbut keep in mind this disease often seems to come in two phases05:00
kreyren[m]What is the second phase 05:00
LjLit hits you first, then you feel okay again, then you feel worse, sometimes much worse05:00
kreyren[m]When would this second phase start ?05:00
LjLi don't know, i haven't asked the virus for a schedule05:01
LjLclearly these things vary a bit among individuals05:01
LjLsay a week05:01
kreyren[m]Any general info or a best guess?05:01
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: California University of Pennsylvania football player dies due to COVID-19 complications → https://is.gd/Ax6bAZ05:01
kreyren[m]So 12 days no symptoms could be considered that I cured myself from it?05:02
LjLthe nearly-universal standard for COVID quarantine is 14 days05:03
kreyren[m]Or do you know what is the process of finding out if I have it from a blood ? Some research paper would be great 05:03
LjL%tell tinwhiskers https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp202691305:03
BrainstormLjL, I'll pass tinwhiskers your message when they are around. 05:03
kreyren[m]As I can do the blood test in my lab if I know the procedure 05:04
LjLkreyren[m], you can find antibodies in blood, but if you've had it recently, antibodies may not yet have developed. it's entirely possible that the virus *isn't* in the blood except in severe cases, so doing a PCR in the blood wouldn't be useful (and you won't find anyone who'd give it to you i suspect)05:04
kreyren[m]So I would have to do a test from a mouth and a nose to look for virus particles right 05:05
LjLyes05:05
LjLif you hate the idea of a cotton swab up your nose, testing from saliva appears to also have decent sensitivity05:05
kreyren[m]Any relevant resources on the procedure would be appreciated if you have them 05:05
Jigsy%cases UK05:05
BrainstormJigsy: In United Kingdom, there have been 353122 confirmed cases (0.5% of the population) and 45712 deaths (12.9% of cases) as of 49 seconds ago. 18.3 million tests were performed (1.9% positive). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=United%20Kingdom for time series data.05:05
JigsyWow, 3K new today.05:06
LjLkreyren[m], i don't have any links to the exact procedures, it's the first time i talk to someone who has the ability to do it in their own lab05:06
LjLor at least who mentions it05:06
tinwhiskersUnfortunately when we have people believing things like: "What about being fined for not wearing a face diaper?" "and "Aren’t there already travel restrictions including being required to take the infected swab up the nose test?" There really isn't a lot of hope.05:06
LjLJigsy, seems to be the average in the past few days in the UK05:06
JigsyYeah.05:06
JigsyUK now banning gatherings.05:06
LjLbut not banning some of the most widespread gatherings05:07
kreyren[m]LjL any exact numbers to the sensitivity and .. the other S thing (me doesn't know how it is in english)05:07
LjLcalled schools05:07
LjLkreyren[m], specificity05:07
kreyren[m]Specificity!05:07
LjLkreyren[m], i have a list of tests you can (perhaps) buy, and some data about some of them05:07
kreyren[m]Thanks ^-^05:07
LjLhttps://www.finddx.org/covid-19/pipeline/05:07
LjLhttps://www.finddx.org/covid-19/sarscov2-eval-molecular/molecular-eval-results/05:08
kreyren[m]LjL that list would be appreciated but ideally I would like a raw data on the sensitivity and specificity of these tests so that I can see if I can develop something in my lab to test myself 05:08
LjLthere are so many on the market, i think nobody really knows ths exact numbers.05:08
LjLthat list is the closest i know of.05:08
LjLit lists measured sensitivity and specificity for the tests it tested05:09
kreyren[m]Noted, thanks for the info 05:09
JigsyThe UK should just lockdown again.05:09
kreyren[m]Any relevant info on how long and how usable the anti-bodies are in the blood? In case I could somehow separate them and donate it ?05:09
LjLJigsy, it never seriously locked down in the first place05:10
JigsyGood point there.05:10
LjLJigsy, i know people from the UK who've never stopped going to their (non-essential) job in person05:10
LjLthat was not the case in Italy05:10
LjLkreyren[m], about a week for IgA, a couple or three for IgG05:10
LjLkreyren[m], then they remain in the blood for a minimum of three months so far as it has been checked, but may remain for much longer05:11
kreyren[m]Any references or papers on that you know of?05:12
kreyren[m]Might be a fun to experiment with assuming that I wont die from this :p 05:12
LjLkreyren[m], just about every paper i have found important about covid is listed at https://covid19.specops.network/05:12
LjLalso the same list i linked above (just on a different page) has tested 4 antibody tests for s&s05:12
kreyren[m]Wow thats a lots of info thanks ^-^05:13
LjLcheck the Epidemiology section for antibody stuff, mostly05:13
kreyren[m]Noted thanks ^-^ feel free to memo me if you have anything helpful to the subject for presented usecases05:14
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine study paused after one illness → https://is.gd/jFSclF05:31
Jigsy%cases world05:34
BrainstormJigsy: In World, there have been 27.8 million confirmed cases (0.4% of the population) and 903057 deaths (3.2% of cases) as of 23 minutes ago. 547.1 million tests were performed (5.1% positive). Fatality can be broadly expected to lie between 0.2% (assuming prevalence as in tests) and less than 4.4% (considering only deaths and recoveries). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=World for time series data.05:34
BrainstormUpdates for World: +12505 cases (now 27.8 million), +980 deaths (now 903079) since 2 hours ago — Mexico: +5351 cases (now 642860), +703 deaths (now 68484) since a day ago — Peru: +4615 cases (now 696190), +147 deaths (now 30123) since a day ago — France: +1636 cases (now 352985) since 3 hours ago05:38
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Half a million U.S. children have been diagnosed with COVID-19 → https://is.gd/VEYjWK05:42
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: College football player dies from coronavirus complications → https://is.gd/iGP03z05:52
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Major late-stage vaccine trial paused; drugmakers pledge to prioritize safety → https://is.gd/S6W97q06:02
CoronaBot04/r/coronavirus: AstraZeneca Covid-19 vaccine study put on hold due to suspected adverse reaction in participant in the U.K. (10039 votes) | https://www.statnews.com/2020/09/08/astrazeneca-covid-19-vaccine-study-put-on-hold-due-to-suspected-adverse-reaction-in-participant-in-the-u-k/ | https://redd.it/ip2ka706:08
BrainstormNew from StatNews: U.S. needs 193 million Covid-19 tests per month to reopen schools and keep up with pandemic, new report says: The U.S. may need 193 million coronavirus tests each month in order to safely reopen schools and fortify nursing homes, a new report says. Current testing capacity in the U.S.… → https://is.gd/qgiq1006:12
CoronaBot04/r/covid19: A prefusion SARS-CoV-2 spike RNA vaccine is highly immunogenic and prevents lung infection in non-human primates (80 votes) | https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.09.08.280818v1 | https://redd.it/ip57gq06:21
BrainstormNew from BBC Health: (news): Coronavirus: Social gatherings above six banned in England from 14 September → https://is.gd/Tst2Y407:03
BrainstormUpdates for Alberta, Canada: +619 cases (now 15093), +5 deaths (now 247) since 4 days ago — British Columbia, Canada: +429 cases (now 6591), +2 deaths (now 213) since 4 days ago — World: +14356 cases (now 27.8 million), +107 deaths (now 903186) since an hour ago — India: +2692 cases (now 4.4 million) since 7 hours ago07:08
BrainstormUpdates for Chhattisgarh, India: +2834 cases (now 50114), +12 deaths (now 407) since a day ago — Nebraska, US: +494 cases (now 36469), +3 deaths (now 407) since a day ago — Maharashtra, India: +20131 cases (now 943772), +380 deaths (now 27407) since a day ago — Chandigarh, India: +377 cases (now 6372), +4 deaths (now 78) since a day ago07:23
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Major late-stage vaccine trial paused; drugmakers pledge to prioritize safety → https://is.gd/S6W97q07:33
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: B.C. closes nightclubs, banquet halls after confirming 429 new COVID-19 cases over long weekend → https://is.gd/TYltn907:43
BrainstormNew from BBC Health: (news): Coronavirus: Social gatherings above six banned in England from 14 September → https://is.gd/Tst2Y408:03
BrainstormNew from BBC Health: (news): Coronavirus: Oxford University vaccine trial paused after participant falls ill → https://is.gd/QURRGE08:34
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: AstraZeneca Suspends Oxford Vaccine Trials Due to Volunteer’s 'Serious Adverse Reaction' → https://is.gd/8UKqhg09:04
BrainstormNew from The Indian Express: World: Donald Trump and Joe Biden run vastly different pandemic campaigns → https://is.gd/pjwAox09:24
BrainstormNew from BBC Health: (news): Coronavirus: Social gatherings above six banned in England from 14 September → https://is.gd/Tst2Y409:54
BrainstormNew from Medical Xpress: AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine study paused after one illness: Late-stage studies of AstraZeneca's COVID-19 vaccine candidate are on temporary hold while the company investigates whether a recipient's "potentially unexplained" illness is a side effect of the shot. → https://is.gd/Zhvc2910:15
BrainstormNew from Medical Xpress: England bans gatherings of more than 6 as virus cases spike: Britain's government is banning gatherings of more than six people in England, as officials try to keep a lid on daily new coronavirus infections after a sharp spike across the U.K. that has been largely blamed on party-going young adults disregarding social [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/X468DF10:25
BrainstormNew from StatNews: Politics: A Senate race in Kansas between two doctors sets the stage for an election hyper-focused on health policy — and on Covid-19 → https://is.gd/qKvWTh10:35
BrainstormNew from StatNews: Opinion: Coming to terms with the real bioterrorist behind Covid-19: nature: The sudden emergence of a highly infectious novel coronavirus in late 2019 has reminded us of a sobering fact: Nature is the ultimate bioterrorist, the one we should fear most. → https://is.gd/g0ZwtZ10:45
BrainstormUpdates for World: +19487 cases (now 27.9 million), +392 deaths (now 903579) since 3 hours ago — Russia: +5218 cases (now 1.0 million), +142 deaths (now 18135) since 22 hours ago — India: +4186 cases (now 4.4 million), +30 deaths (now 73953) since 4 hours ago — Slovenia: +80 cases (now 3312) since 8 hours ago10:54
BrainstormNew from BBC Health: (news): Coronavirus: Social gatherings above six banned in England from 14 September → https://is.gd/Tst2Y410:55
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Major late-stage vaccine trial paused; drugmakers pledge to prioritize safety → https://is.gd/S6W97q11:26
BrainstormNew from BMJ: Covid-19: Pharma companies promise not to bow to political pressure to rush vaccine production: The chief executive officers (CEOs) of nine drug companies working towards a covid-19 vaccine have issued a joint statement promising to “only submit [a vaccine] for approval or emergency use... → https://is.gd/zHisxr11:57
CoronaBot04/r/covid19: Leading COVID19 vaccine trial on hold over safety concern | Reuters via Daily Maverick. (80 votes) | https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2020-09-09-astrazeneca-puts-leading-covid-19-vaccine-trial-on-hold-over-safety-concern/ | https://redd.it/ipaxy212:04
BrainstormNew from BBC Health: (news): Coronavirus: Total deaths in Scotland rise by a third between April and June → https://is.gd/Cet69312:07
BrainstormUpdates for Finland: +93 cases (now 8430) since a day ago — World: +3007 cases (now 27.9 million), +50 deaths (now 903629) since an hour ago — Bangladesh: +1827 cases (now 331078), +41 deaths (now 4593) since 17 hours ago — Austria: +502 cases (now 30583) since a day ago12:09
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: AstraZeneca shares drop after company announces 'routine' safety pause in coronavirus vaccine trial: AstraZeneca shares were lower in premarket trading after the company said on Tuesday its late-stage trial for a potential coronavirus vaccine had been put on hold due to safety concerns. → https://is.gd/gopEig12:17
BrainstormUpdates for United Arab Emirates: +883 cases (now 75981), +2 deaths (now 393) since 17 hours ago — World: +4525 cases (now 27.9 million), +181 deaths (now 903810) since 34 minutes ago — Iran: +2313 cases (now 393425), +127 deaths (now 22669) since 17 hours ago — Romania: +1271 cases (now 98304), +51 deaths (now 4018) since 17 hours ago12:24
BrainstormNew from Medical Xpress: EU reserves 200 million more coronavirus vaccines: The European Commission announced Wednesday it has reached a deal with a sixth pharmaceutical firm, this time BioNTech-Pfizer, to reserve a further 200 million doses of a potential coronavirus vaccine. → https://is.gd/gi1gHN12:37
BrainstormUpdates for Switzerland: +469 cases (now 45306) since 13 hours ago — World: +532 cases (now 27.9 million) since 22 minutes ago — Malta: +63 cases (now 2162) since 18 hours ago12:39
BrainstormNew from Medical Xpress: Varying degrees of success for coronavirus apps in Europe: Designed to help fight the spread of the novel coronavirus by automatically tracing the contacts of infected people, Covid-19 tracking applications have encountered a series of challenges since their launch, from privacy concerns to technical glitches. → https://is.gd/Gy9ohr12:47
BrainstormNew from Medical Xpress: India syringe maker boosts production to meet virus vaccine demand: India's biggest syringe manufacturer is ramping up production to churn out a billion units, anticipating a surge in demand as the global race to find a coronavirus vaccine heats up. → https://is.gd/N4e1B812:57
BrainstormNew from The Atlantic: The Pandemic Is an Intution Nightmare: Editor’s Note: The Atlantic is making vital coverage of the coronavirus available to all readers. Find the collection here . → https://is.gd/6hgkOr13:07
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Oxford COVID-19 Vaccine Trial on Hold after ‘Unexplained Illness’ → https://is.gd/mZfL5H13:28
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: (news): Coronavirus: Major late-stage vaccine trial paused; drugmakers pledge to prioritize safety → https://is.gd/S6W97q13:58
BrainstormNew from Scientific American: Coronavirus: How It Infects Us and How We Might Stop It: How does SARS-CoV-2 sneak into our body? What can our immune system do and how can the virus sometimes defeat it? How do the leading drug and vaccine candidates work? Will the virus plague us... -- Read more on ScientificAmerican.com → https://is.gd/aKyoNT14:09
BrainstormNew from BBC Health: (news): Coronavirus: Oxford University vaccine trial paused after participant falls ill → https://is.gd/QURRGE14:19
BrainstormNew from BBC Health: Coronavirus: Scottish deaths up by a third at height of pandemic: The number of people who died in Scotland at the height of the coronavirus outbreak was a third higher than usual. → https://is.gd/Cet69314:29
BrainstormNew from Medical Xpress: How has COVID-19 affected the way we communicate?: Effective communication has always been the key to all healthy relationships. During the mandatory quarantine, many individuals are working from home with little to no face-to-face interactions, except with their families. → https://is.gd/19SOZA14:40
BrainstormNew from Medical Xpress: High antiviral antibody levels may herald pediatric COVID-19 complication: Measuring blood antibody levels against SARS-CoV-2 may distinguish children with multisystem inflammatory syndrome (MIS-C), which appears to be a serious but rare complication of viral infection, say researchers at Emory University School of Medicine and [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/3TQWco14:50
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: (news): Coronavirus live updates: WHO stresses safety and Dr. Fauci says pause in major vaccine trial is 'not uncommon' → https://is.gd/hi4pIE15:00
BrainstormNew from Medical Xpress: Robotic testing platform helps to scale up COVID-19 testing capacity: An Imperial team has repurposed robotic technology normally used for synthetic biology research to help with testing for COVID-19. → https://is.gd/hVhtFk15:10
CoronaBot04/r/covid19: A leading coronavirus vaccine trial is on hold: scientists react (88 votes) | https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-02594-w | https://redd.it/ipe5x515:17
BrainstormNew from Medical Xpress: Beyond long-term care: The benefits of seniors' communities that evolve on their own: The global COVID-19 pandemic has shown Canadians that we need to think differently about how we support older adults. The media and all levels of government have focused heavily on long-term care, and rightly so. However, the vast majority of [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/9rRFyP15:20
BrainstormNew from StatNews: Pharma: STAT Plus: Pharmalittle: AstraZeneca pauses its Covid-19 vaccine trial; FDA sticking with its vaccine approval guidelines → https://is.gd/dCIN5E15:30
BrainstormUpdates for Portugal: +646 cases (now 61541), +3 deaths (now 1849) since 21 hours ago — World: +16477 cases (now 27.9 million), +238 deaths (now 904048) since 3 hours ago — India: +8204 cases (now 4.4 million), +75 deaths (now 74028) since 4 hours ago — Nepal: +1081 cases (now 49219), +6 deaths (now 312) since 21 hours ago15:35
Jigsy%cases world15:38
BrainstormJigsy: In World, there have been 27.9 million confirmed cases (0.4% of the population) and 904048 deaths (3.2% of cases) as of 5 minutes ago. 550.1 million tests were performed (5.1% positive). Fatality can be broadly expected to lie between 0.2% (assuming prevalence as in tests) and less than 4.4% (considering only deaths and recoveries). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=World for time series data.15:38
Jigsy%cases UK15:38
BrainstormJigsy: In United Kingdom, there have been 352560 confirmed cases (0.5% of the population) and 45712 deaths (13.0% of cases) as of 3 minutes ago. 18.3 million tests were performed (1.9% positive). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=United%20Kingdom for time series data.15:38
JigsyGone down again?15:38
JigsyYeah...15:38
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: (news): Coronavirus live updates: WHO stresses safety and Dr. Fauci says pause in major vaccine trial is 'not uncommon' → https://is.gd/hi4pIE15:41
BrainstormNew from Medical Xpress: Halting the Oxford vaccine trial doesn't mean it's not safe: It shows they're following the right process: Only days after the federal government announced a A$1.7 billion vaccine deal to roll out COVID-19 vaccines to Australians in 2021, one of the two candidates has halted its phase 3 trials after a participant became ill. → https://is.gd/l0umd515:51
BrainstormNew from BBC Health: (news): Coronavirus: Social gatherings above six banned in England from 14 September → https://is.gd/Tst2Y416:01
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: (news): Coronavirus live updates: WHO stresses safety and Dr. Fauci says pause in major vaccine trial is 'not uncommon' → https://is.gd/hi4pIE16:42
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: NIH promises Congress the U.S. won't skip safety steps in coronavirus vaccine approval: NIH Director Dr. Francis Collins said studying the safety and effectiveness of Covid-19 vaccine candidates is now the federal agency's "top priority. → https://is.gd/3NHzPj17:02
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: (news): Coronavirus live updates: WHO stresses safety and Dr. Fauci says pause in major vaccine trial is 'not uncommon' → https://is.gd/hi4pIE17:12
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: NIH promises Congress the U.S. won't skip safety steps in coronavirus vaccine approval: NIH director Dr. Francis Collins said studying the safety and effectiveness of Covid-19 vaccine candidates is now the agency's "top priority." → https://is.gd/3NHzPj17:23
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Florida adds 2,056 coronavirus cases and 200 resident deaths, pushing toll past 12,000 → https://is.gd/iWUr2717:33
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BrainstormUpdates for World: +68305 cases (now 28.0 million), +1417 deaths (now 905465) since 2 hours ago — India: +35032 cases (now 4.4 million), +339 deaths (now 74367) since 2 hours ago — Czechia: +699 cases (now 30576), +3 deaths (now 444) since 15 hours ago — Brazil: +14347 cases (now 4.2 million), +602 deaths (now 128119) since 15 hours ago18:21
BrainstormNew from Medical Xpress: During the pandemic, online lecture series helps fill gaps in training for urology residents: The ongoing coronavirus pandemic has affected all aspects of healthcare—including sharp drops in educational opportunities for resident physicians in training. In response, urology training programs across the United States joined [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/wzcUqs18:24
BrainstormNew from Medical Xpress: Allergic immune responses help fight bacterial infections: Allergy is one of the most common diseases in Europe, it is estimated that more than 150 million Europeans suffer from recurring allergies and by 2025 this could have increased to half of the entire European population.1 Allergic patients initially undergo a process of [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/Lv1cyQ18:34
BrainstormNew from Medical Xpress: Rural COVID-19 mortality highest in counties with more blacks and hispanics: A recent study by researchers from Syracuse University shows that the average daily increase in rural COVID-19 mortality rates has been significantly higher in counties with the largest percentages of Black and Hispanic residents. → https://is.gd/iyQtMc18:44
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: (news): Democratic senators grill U.S. health officials on Trump interference in coronavirus vaccine process → https://is.gd/kNZQUA18:54
BrainstormNew from Medical Xpress: NIH: Halted vaccine study shows 'no compromises' on safety: AstraZeneca's suspension of final testing of its potential COVID-19 vaccine while it investigates a volunteer's illness shows there will be "no compromises" on safety in developing the shots, the chief of the National Institutes of Health told Congress on Wednesday. → https://is.gd/DDFy1Z19:04
BrainstormNew from Medical Xpress: Czechs reintroduce face masks indoors after virus spike: Czechs will have to wear face masks in most public indoor settings in a bid to slow a record spike in COVID-19 cases, the health minister said Wednesday. → https://is.gd/O0QG5z19:15
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: (news): Coronavirus live updates: WHO stresses safety and Dr. Fauci says pause in major vaccine trial is 'not uncommon' → https://is.gd/hi4pIE19:25
BrainstormNew from Medical Xpress: Masks make talking even tougher for people who stutter: (HealthDay)—Face masks may be invaluable in the fight against COVID-19, but they can make it difficult for people who stutter to communicate with others. → https://is.gd/rtCqYS19:35
BrainstormNew from Medical Xpress: Q&A: Lung cancer care during the COVID-19 pandemic: DEAR MAYO CLINIC: My father has been a heavy smoker for most of his life. He was diagnosed with lung cancer recently. He underwent surgery and several chemotherapy treatments prior to the outbreak of COVID-19. He is getting a bit agitated being home, and we are wondering if it [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/EJlqyI19:45
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LjLBut on a private conference call with investors Wednesday, AstraZeneca CEO Pascal Soriot confirmed that a UK woman, who had received the vaccine (not a placebo), had neurological symptoms consistent with transverse myelitis, according to a follow-up story by STAT. Soriot noted that she was improving and was expected to be released from the hospital as early as Wednesday.20:20
GomJabbarwtf is that20:25
GomJabbartransverse mileycyrus20:26
LjL"The incidence of TM is 4.6 in 1 million"20:35
livebrainincidence of TM ? LjL what is that 21:05
livebrain?21:05
LjLtransverse myelitis21:05
LjLthe Oxford vaccine trial was paused because someone got sick, and rumors are it's "compatible" with TM21:06
LjLpreviously, it had been paused because of what was eventually a diagnosis of multiple sclerosis21:06
LjLit may be random but i don't like that there's been *two* cases of demyelinating diseases21:06
LjL"A second individual familiar with the matter, who also spoke on condition of anonymity, said the finding is having an impact on other AstraZeneca vaccine trials underway — as well as on the clinical trials being conducted by other vaccine manufacturers."21:09
LjLthis is also not a great sign21:09
tinwhiskersit's a good sign in some ways21:09
tinwhiskersI mean, at least they didn't carry on and erode confidence in vaccines even further21:10
LjLtinwhiskers, the fact that the issue, whatever it is, may affect other vaccines makes me scared though21:11
tinwhiskersoh. yeah21:11
LjLwhat if it turns out when you try to create immunity against this particular virus you inevitably risk triggering some rather crappy response21:11
LjLi know, i always think of the worst case21:11
livebraini read it in the news, cant remember were, that labs wanted a "free pass" if vaccines created an adverse reaction on some ppl 21:12
livebrainnot being accountable21:12
tinwhiskersyeah, I don't know but think it's unlikely to affect all vaccine methods.21:12
tinwhiskerslivebrain: that's pretty normal21:12
tinwhiskerswhen you do business in the US you need some form of immunity. The thing is there is a known small risk of adverse events with vaccines. Knowing there is a risk and using it anyway is death by lawyer in the US.21:13
metroI think vaccines get a special exemption for adverse effects21:41
de-factothe question is if there are correlations to the vaccine or if those are unrelated backgronud cases just discovered now by the more tight diagnostics during the trial22:00
de-factoand yes i agree with tin, its a good sign that they did not try to hide it despite knowing about the impact on their stock values, it makes the trials more trustworthy that they investigate every possibility (even if it potentially may be unrelated)22:03
metroI don't see how it would be possible for them to cover-up negative outcomes from such visible and important work22:06
metroIf anything it creates more uncertainty overall and if they are positioning themselves as more diligent in some way it's only good PR22:07
metrocorrelation and causation.. that's a classic conundrum22:08
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tinwhiskerseven if it is causative but at a low rate the vaccine may still be used. Vaccines do have adverse reactions in some people.22:09
de-factoyes what if there was a hidden pre-condition that was now discovered by tight diagnostics during the trial? what if there was even a correlation but the vaccination was not causative for the condition? 22:09
de-factoyeah22:10
metrotheir statisticians will not accept mere correlation, it can be ruled out quantitatively22:10
tinwhiskersI'm not quite sure what you're getting at metro22:11
metrofwiw AZN:NASDAQ is holding steady22:11
metrotinwhiskers, with respect to what? mere correlation to a rare adverse outcome is highly unlikely to stop a treatment, these things crop up all the time22:12
tinwhiskersah. yes22:12
de-factoyeah no time for any conclusions, letting them do their work properly hopefully will reveal more information22:13
metroall eyes are on them22:13
de-factoindeed22:13
CoronaBot04/r/covid19: Serious Adverse Event Time (82 votes) | https://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archives/2020/09/09/serious-adverse-event-time | https://redd.it/ipg73z22:38
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: (news): Coronavirus live updates: NYC can resume indoor dining; Dems say Trump interferes with vaccine approvals → https://is.gd/hi4pIE22:46
BrainstormNew from Medical Xpress: Isolation, loneliness of lockdowns is tough on America's seniors: (HealthDay)—Seniors are among those most at risk for dying from COVID-19, and so they've been urged to socially distance during the pandemic. → https://is.gd/K2OtvH22:56
BrainstormNew from Medical Xpress: COVID-19 infections leap again at University of Georgia: Coronavirus infections continue to spread at the University of Georgia, with the school reporting more than 1,400 new cases of COVID-19 in the past week. → https://is.gd/m94qyO23:07
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BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: South Korea’s Christians losing faith amid coronavirus outbreaks linked to churches, pastors say → https://is.gd/UbeTwD23:37
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Reopening of US colleges is 'spreading COVID-19' → https://is.gd/0HKsCa23:47
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: U.S. power use to drop over 2% in 2020 due coronavirus → https://is.gd/isPwSd23:57

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