| Brainstorm | New from BBC Health: Covid: 16,000 coronavirus cases missed in daily figures after IT error: Public Health England says the unreported cases were added to Saturday's and Sunday's statistics, meaning they were "artificially high". → https://is.gd/HdJoLt | 00:01 |
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| Jigsy | Round of applause though for the UK breaking the half a million mark! | 00:03 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: New York Cracks Down on Hot Spots as Cases Surge: Virus Update → https://is.gd/brScg5 | 00:12 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for United Kingdom: +21642 cases (now 502978) since 17 hours ago — World: +120740 cases (now 35.5 million), +1594 deaths (now 1.0 million) since 4 hours ago — India: +48457 cases (now 6.6 million), +717 deaths (now 102714) since 6 hours ago — US: +13520 cases (now 7.6 million), +147 deaths (now 214571) since 4 hours ago | 00:21 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Harvard expert: Worst case COVID vaccine scenario is if people don't take it → https://is.gd/JWFjUp | 00:23 |
| Jigsy | %cases UK | 00:29 |
| Brainstorm | Jigsy: In United Kingdom, there have been 502978 confirmed cases (0.8% of the population) and 42350 deaths (8.4% of cases) as of 10 minutes ago. 25.0 million tests were performed (2.0% positive). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=United%20Kingdom for time series data. | 00:29 |
| Jigsy | Wonder if we'll hit 40 million by next week. | 00:30 |
| Brainstorm | New from BBC Health: Covid: 16,000 coronavirus cases missed in daily figures after IT error: Public Health England says the unreported cases were added to Saturday's and Sunday's statistics, meaning they were "artificially high". → https://is.gd/HdJoLt | 00:34 |
| LjL | > “We’ve been studying influenza for 102 years,” says Milton, referring to the 1918 flu epidemic. “We still don’t know how it’s transmitted and what the role of aerosols is.” nice ultimate takeaway of https://apnews.com/article/virus-outbreak-43fe5ca3fba1d4ebc05949a11643e03b | 00:45 |
| ryouma | zow | 00:51 |
| ryouma | so we should not expect that much for existing pandemics? | 00:51 |
| oriba | LjL: calculate your risk: https://www.microcovid.org/ | 00:54 |
| Brainstorm | oriba: At 2020-09-05 22:54:54 UTC, LjL told you: I'm adding TWIV to the bot's RSS, in general i only want articles i can read in there, but this seems like a prominent enough exceptions that many people want to follow | 00:54 |
| oriba | wtf! | 00:55 |
| oriba | this channel has become the testfield / sandbox for bot-programmers it seems. | 00:58 |
| oriba | I should automate my messages too. | 00:58 |
| LjL | ... | 01:01 |
| LjL | well get fucked, then | 01:01 |
| LjL | jesus fucking christ | 01:01 |
| LjL | go to ##coronavirus if you don't want bots | 01:02 |
| LjL | this channel has bots | 01:02 |
| LjL | deal with it | 01:02 |
| LjL | or don't | 01:02 |
| LjL | äloji | 01:02 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for World: +114312 cases (now 35.7 million), +1292 deaths (now 1.0 million) since 3 hours ago — Germany: +1882 cases (now 304424), +9 deaths (now 9615) since 4 hours ago — Spain: +42031 cases (now 852838), +139 deaths (now 32225) since 3 days ago — India: +31497 cases (now 6.7 million), +595 deaths (now 103600) since 3 hours ago | 21:37 |
| Brainstorm | New from WebMD: Why is Trump Taking Dexamethasone and Does It Work?: In general, the steroid is recommended for hospitalized patients who need supplemental oxygen or mechanical ventilation, according to COVID-19 treatment guidelines from the National Institutes of Health. → https://is.gd/Jjduje | 21:39 |
| Brainstorm | New from Medical Xpress: Diseases, Conditions, Syndromes: Trump's COVID-19 diagnosis is not slowing virulent anti-mask movement on Facebook → https://is.gd/XOVCBZ | 22:22 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Kansas, US: +1267 cases (now 63580), +8 deaths (now 706) since 10 hours ago — Connecticut, US: +823 cases (now 59120), +4 deaths (now 4517) since 2 days ago — World: +6176 cases (now 35.7 million), +49 deaths (now 1.0 million) since 50 minutes ago — US: +5075 cases (now 7.7 million), +39 deaths (now 214884) since 50 minutes ago | 22:23 |
| Brainstorm | New from Medical Xpress: Primary care visits dropped in early months of the pandemic: (HealthDay)—There has been a decrease in primary care office visits during the COVID-19 pandemic, according to a study published online Oct. 2 in JAMA Network Open. → https://is.gd/wvfMau | 22:33 |
| Brainstorm | New from Medical Xpress: 2018 to 2019 vaccine cut influenza A-linked hospitalizations: (HealthDay)—The 2018 to 2019 influenza vaccine effectiveness (VE) was about 40 to 60 percent for reducing pediatric influenza A-associated hospitalizations and emergency department visits, according to a study published online Oct. 5 in Pediatrics. → https://is.gd/gilkG7 | 22:44 |
| Jigsy | %cases UK | 22:53 |
| Brainstorm | Jigsy: In United Kingdom, there have been 515571 confirmed cases (0.8% of the population) and 45712 deaths (8.9% of cases) as of 4 hours ago. 25.9 million tests were performed (2.0% positive). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=United%20Kingdom for time series data. | 22:53 |
| Arsanerit | %cases Turkmenistan | 22:57 |
| Brainstorm | Arsanerit: Sorry, Turkmenistan not found. Either there aren't cases, or it's under a different name. | 22:57 |
| Arsanerit | %cases San Marino | 22:58 |
| Brainstorm | Arsanerit: In San Marino, there have been 735 confirmed cases (2.2% of the population) and 42 deaths (5.7% of cases) as of 4 days ago. 7755 tests were performed (9.5% positive). Fatality can be broadly expected to lie between 1.3% (assuming prevalence as in tests) and less than 5.8% (considering only deaths and recoveries). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=San%20Marino for time series data. | 22:58 |
| Arsanerit | Where can I find hospitalisation rates? | 22:58 |
| ryouma | %cases taiwan | 22:58 |
| Brainstorm | ryouma: In Taiwan, there have been 518 confirmed cases (0.0% of the population) and 7 deaths (1.4% of cases) as of 13 hours ago. 181922 tests were performed (0.3% positive). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=Taiwan for time series data. | 22:58 |
| ryouma | %cases china | 22:59 |
| Brainstorm | ryouma: In China, there have been 88553 confirmed cases (0.0% of the population) and 4739 deaths (5.4% of cases) as of a day ago. 160.0 million tests were performed (0.1% positive). Fatality can be broadly expected to lie between 0.6% (assuming prevalence as in tests) and less than 5.3% (considering only deaths and recoveries). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=China for time series data. | 22:59 |
| ryouma | is 0.3 percent positive going to get you a lot of false pos/neg? | 23:00 |
| molechild | so every 4-8 days the US matches all CV China deaths? | 23:00 |
| molechild | with China having 3-5x the population and emerging level health care | 23:01 |
| ryouma | the us dropped the ball at the beginning and consistently and is still doing so | 23:02 |
| ryouma | there is concern about us northern states, at least, or whole country, getting worse during winter | 23:02 |
| Arsanerit | China has more obedient population | 23:02 |
| Arsanerit | and more rigorous enforcement of more rigorous measures and they don't bother with privacy | 23:02 |
| the-wes | they also don't bother to report accurate numbers | 23:05 |
| ryouma | a lot of countries dropped the ball, of course | 23:05 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Costa Rica: +1947 cases (now 81129), +37 deaths (now 987) since 2 days ago — World: +12646 cases (now 35.8 million), +341 deaths (now 1.0 million) since 49 minutes ago — Brazil: +9213 cases (now 4.9 million), +258 deaths (now 146675) since an hour ago — South Africa: +926 cases (now 682215), +40 deaths (now 17016) since 22 hours ago | 23:08 |
| Brainstorm | New from Medical Xpress: 8 in 10 COVID-19 patients suffer neurological symptoms, study finds: (HealthDay)—As President Donald Trump battles the coronavirus, researchers reveal concerning new findings: Neurological symptoms occur in 8 of 10 hospitalized COVID-19 patients. → https://is.gd/FXIkaw | 23:16 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health: (news): CDC revises coronavirus guidance to acknowledge that it spreads through airborne transmission → https://is.gd/CtkLMf | 23:27 |
| ryouma | finally | 23:33 |
| Arsanerit | Huh? How did they say it spread before? | 23:36 |
| LjL | groan | 23:38 |
| Timvde | dude o_o https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1313186529058136070 | 23:45 |
| molechild | so if china's count isn't 4800 deaths what might it be? 200,000 ? | 23:46 |
| molechild | maybe china has law& order and no Qfox | 23:46 |
| ryouma | asia in general is said to have less of an individualistic orientation than the west. kind of like, they wear masks to protect others. although some in the west are much more like that than others. in asia there is a theory this derived from rice farming, which is sometimes done with the whole village or neighborhood pitching in. | 23:49 |
| molechild | This is accurate. White House communications aides Chad Gilmartin and Karoline Leavitt both have coronavirus, I’m told. Other mid-level staffers have tested positive, too, in recent days. | 23:52 |
| ryouma | (the rice farming hteory might be completely wrong or unprovable, and i am typically skeptical of such theories for htings, but just mentioning that some think it is significant, via, for example, if you don't plant quickly enough, you hold others back, etc.) | 23:54 |
| molechild | ryouma, harvard guy says you can blame or thank christiantiy “The WEIRDest People in the World: How the West Became Psychologically Peculiar and Particularly Prosperous” by Joseph Henrich, professor of human evolutionary biology at Harvard University, | 23:54 |
| ryouma | yeah i don't belive that one at all | 23:55 |
| ryouma | (i only read one article on it but it made little sense to me) | 23:55 |
| molechild | western educated industrialized rich democratic weird | 23:56 |
| ryouma | s/belive that one at all/buy that one | 23:56 |
| molechild | well he Is a harvard professor, but if you wanna chalk it up to growing rice, ok | 23:58 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health: (news): Mike Pence and Kamala Harris vice presidential debate to have plexiglass barrier because of coronavirus concerns → https://is.gd/C6UBco | 23:59 |
| ryouma | i like harvard a lot, and don't chalk it up to rice, but in the article i read, i sensed some agenda there that was not stated | 23:59 |
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