| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: The Burning Platform - Reddit's Censorship of The Great Barrington Declaration → https://is.gd/6N0HX3 | 00:01 |
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| Brainstorm | Updates for US: +2196 cases (now 7.9 million), +16 deaths (now 219243) since an hour ago | 00:20 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Florida says it is not releasing its daily coronavirus update because a lab submitted 400,000 previously-reported test results → https://is.gd/y9xLSK | 00:22 |
| ryouma | true but of course there are different hypotheses for any given event tinwhiskers spybert --- 00:23 <SphericalCow> this is what post-truth post-modern politics does | 00:23 |
| spybert | post truth - hehe | 00:25 |
| ryouma | same answer here too. are there historical examples of using a pandemic to do such, recently? (don't go as far back a syphilitic blankets. --- 00:07 <tinwhiskers> ryouma: there's always been nation | 00:28 |
| ryouma | which is the standard, to backdate or to release on same date? --- Coronavirus: Florida says it is not releasing its daily coronavirus update because a lab submitted 400,000 previously-reported test results → | 00:31 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Although the exact origins of the COVID-19 pandemic aren't clear, most researchers estimate the virus made the jump from bats to pangolins before infecting humans. Now, scientists worry the virus could make the jump from humans back into wild animal populations. → https://is.gd/1G2Vfg | 00:44 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Herd immunity letter signed by fake experts including 'Dr Johnny Bananas' : Open letter calling for new Covid-19 strategy also signed by ‘Prof Cominic Dummings’ → https://is.gd/EEHaDM | 00:55 |
| LjL | lol? | 01:05 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: COVID-19 and clean air: an opportunity for radical change → https://is.gd/4UUXwc | 01:06 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Mom loses hearing in one ear after mild COVID-19 infection → https://is.gd/8YYECQ | 01:27 |
| LjL | ugh | 01:33 |
| LjL | A team in Manchester, England, asked COVID-19 patients eight weeks after they'd been discharged from the hospital whether they'd experienced any hearing changes or ringing in their ears. Of the 138 patients in the study, published in the International Journal of Audiology, 13 per cent said yes. | 01:33 |
| LjL | but then again, 13% is consistent with general amount of population who has tinnits | 01:33 |
| LjL | tinnitus | 01:33 |
| LjL | will read the actual study i guess | 01:34 |
| LjL | i have tinnitus and, while i'm known to have a low tolerance for ailment in general, i find it fucking awful | 01:35 |
| LjL | Liam contracted COVID-19 in June, and had a fever, headache and was exhausted for weeks. After he started feeling better, he suddenly lost his hearing and had tinnitus, or ringing in the air. | 01:36 |
| LjL | After a round of steroids, he said he can now hear everything except high tones. The ringing has persisted, and he said his doctors tell him it might never go away. | 01:36 |
| LjL | "It's really dreadful," said Liam, who asked that his last name not be used to protect his privacy. | 01:36 |
| LjL | dreadful, it does sound like | 01:36 |
| LjL | most people who are deaf or hard or hearing have tinnitus, and conversely most people with tinnitus have some hearing deficit. it's probably something many people don't really suspect about deafness. | 01:36 |
| LjL | "Most of these patients are currently waiting for audiological assessment, delayed because of the ongoing pandemic." ← duh, of course we don't get to know about long-term consequences this way | 01:41 |
| Brainstorm | New from https://covid19.specops.network : ljl-covid: Add sequelae study about hearing/tinnitus → https://is.gd/bB8M7n | 01:49 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Florida halts release of new COVID-19 numbers after latest lab mix-up → https://is.gd/zg8vid | 02:21 |
| metreo | I got tinnitus following a bad fever when I was younger, it's gotten a bit better over time (or I'm more used to it) | 02:34 |
| LjL | metreo, i think i have some psychological issues also that make me "stubborn" or resistant to "getting used to it" | 02:39 |
| LjL | i must say it's not even objectively strong, daytime noise outdoors almost always cover it, with few exceptions in cases of spikes | 02:39 |
| LjL | but when i'm indoors and it spikes a bit it just kills my mood completely | 02:40 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Argentina COVID update: New cases: 12,414 → https://is.gd/nDk7Qm | 02:43 |
| LjL | since when do daily updates end up in the feed just like that | 02:45 |
| LjL | that is pretty silly, who upvotes that | 02:45 |
| LjL | and who makes a bot that lets it be posted with just 4 upvotes | 02:46 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Florida Gators' Dan Mullen wants to have full crowd in 'The Swamp' vs. LSU Tigers → https://is.gd/hW2uU4 | 03:16 |
| ryouma | long covid a description of one case https://inews.co.uk/news/health/long-haul-covid-coronavirus-symptoms-months-after-effects-679023 | 03:16 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Covid-19: Father shares antibodies after daughter's death → https://is.gd/ajoki1 | 03:37 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Mother’s Little Helper Is Back, and Daddy’s Partaking Too: After the kids go to bed, the grown-ups are drinking and smoking pot to distract themselves from the hellscape that is pandemic parenting. → https://is.gd/sjg4Z5 | 04:10 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express: World: Trump is no longer a COVID-19 ‘transmission risk’ -White House doctor → https://is.gd/BlU3tv | 04:31 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: China has got rid of COVID-19, According to Wechat & Trip.com’s National Day Holiday data report → https://is.gd/B0uFwk | 05:04 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for France: +6781 cases (now 725654) since 7 hours ago — US: +3801 cases (now 7.9 million), +39 deaths (now 219282) since 4 hours ago — New Zealand: +1 cases (now 1871) since a day ago | 05:06 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Neutralizing antibodies from early cases of SARS-CoV-2 infection offer cross-protection against the SARS-CoV-2 D614G variant. → https://is.gd/p4RNJ3 | 05:15 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Home-Made Covid Vaccine Appeared to Work, but Questions Remained → https://is.gd/GRkm8H | 05:26 |
| CoronaBot | 04/r/coronavirus: Fauci says says Trump just accidentally proved face masks work (10323 votes) | https://bgr.com/posts/5877607/f732b3-fauci-says-says-trump-just-accidentally-proved-face-masks-block-coronavirus/ | https://redd.it/j8q8og | 05:34 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: ‘What are we so afraid of?’ → https://is.gd/7eWhN2 | 05:47 |
| Brainstorm | New from Scientific American: Neanderthal DNA May Be COVID Risk: A stretch of Neanderthal DNA has been associated with some cases of severe COVID-19, but it's unclear how much a risk it poses. Christopher Intagliata reports. -- Read more on ScientificAmerican.com → https://is.gd/eXNol8 | 05:58 |
| tinwhiskers | Aha. The Neanderthals are to blame. They must be held accountable. It's not Trump's fault for an appalling response. /s | 06:00 |
| tinwhiskers | It may be the section of DNA responsible for being averse to wearing a mask. | 06:02 |
| Brainstorm | New from This Week In Virology: TWiV 671: Prizes, polio, and a pandemic puzzle: Daniel Griffin provides a clinical report on COVID-19, then Amy joins us to discuss the 2020 Chemistry Nobel Prize for gene editing using CRISPR/Cas9, continuing circulation of poliovirus in Afghanistan, inborn errors of interferon in patients with severe COVID-19, and [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/kjsC5q | 06:09 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: 'Near extinction' of influenza in NZ as numbers drop due to lockdown → https://is.gd/6JCdDB | 06:31 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for | 07:07 |
| Brainstorm | New from BBC Health: BCG: Can a vaccine from 1921 save lives from Covid-19?: Vaccines may cause wide-scale changes in the immune system which can boost the body's protection. → https://is.gd/lHOmvl | 07:14 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Remdesivir for the Treatment of Covid-19 — Final Report (Shortens time to recovery. The actual paper finally out) → https://is.gd/848mNu | 07:36 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for United Kingdom: +1360 cases (now 592204) since 9 hours ago | 07:37 |
| CoronaBot | 04/r/covid19: Coronavirus: A Possible Cause of Reduced Male Fertility (80 votes) | https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/andr.12907 | https://redd.it/j8w3sk | 07:46 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express: World: For Boris Johnson, and maybe Trump, covid as metaphor is hard to shake → https://is.gd/1n9Qgj | 07:47 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Transmission Dynamics by Age Group in COVID-19 Hotspot Counties — United States, April–September 2020 → https://is.gd/L6Zep3 | 08:09 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: A population-based cohort study of socio-demographic risk factors for COVID-19 deaths in Sweden → https://is.gd/QAnM7T | 08:20 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Exclusive: AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine trial in U.S. on hold until at least midweek - sources → https://is.gd/kEeyAQ | 08:41 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Canada coronavirus death toll is 9,608 → https://is.gd/mxZcSK | 08:52 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: US Covid cases climb as midwestern states report steep increases → https://is.gd/AUIPXZ | 09:03 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: India's coronavirus infections cross 7 million → https://is.gd/yUDnlm | 09:14 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for | 09:22 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: East China city reports 3 asymptomatic cases of COVID-19 - Xinhua → https://is.gd/4aWHcg | 09:46 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Coronavirus pandemic: Asthma patients less likely to die from virus; new test better at telling who is still infectious - health → https://is.gd/FVVfsw | 10:08 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Nevada reverses ban on rapid tests after federal pushback → https://is.gd/NSl5ZF | 10:30 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for | 10:37 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: COVID-19 deaths surpass 150,000 in Brazil, second only to U.S. → https://is.gd/9c7Fpu | 10:51 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for | 10:52 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for | 11:07 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express: World: New Zealand PM Jacinda Ardern touts success in tackling pandemic in poll push → https://is.gd/UIwPK5 | 11:34 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Russia Breaks Single-Day Record for Coronavirus Cases for 3rd Straight Day - The Moscow Times → https://is.gd/EiQOXG | 11:45 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: how do i see how many % positive as of today in europe per country? any help how to do this appreciated → https://is.gd/90GQac | 12:17 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Church in Bible Belt town Barneveld, Netherlands holding three church services today with 450 visitors each, despite urgent government call to limit to 30 people → https://is.gd/K1BFT2 | 12:50 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Uber Vehicles are breeding grounds for Covid-19 - Think about it. Uber needs an improved process. → https://is.gd/bxX8yP | 13:00 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Inhaled Vaccines Aim to Fight Coronavirus at Its Point of Attack: Vaccines sprayed into the nose or inhaled through the mouth won’t require needles and could be easier to roll out. They may be more effective too. → https://is.gd/3u2RJw | 13:21 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for | 13:23 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Greeley nursing home residents protest pandemic lockdown: 'I'd rather die of COVID than loneliness' → https://is.gd/tS7GAv | 13:32 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Boston Teachers Rally for Safer Schools → https://is.gd/ywmhFN | 14:15 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: U.S. CDC reports 213,037 deaths from coronavirus → https://is.gd/6EULS6 | 14:25 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express (Health): Health: How can you take care of a loved one recuperating from COVID-19? Find out → https://is.gd/Ul3gEv | 15:08 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Lebanon closes bars, nightclubs to curb coronavirus → https://is.gd/CtTUf6 | 15:30 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Morocco reports 3,443 new COVID-19 cases, 42 more deaths → https://is.gd/C7cxZY | 15:41 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Can we trust Chinese Covid-19 science? → https://is.gd/Hy3IPs | 15:51 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health: (news): Democrats and Republicans dismiss Trump's coronavirus stimulus offer, dimming hopes for a deal → https://is.gd/37PfB5 | 16:02 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for US: +3846 cases (now 7.9 million), +18 deaths (now 219300) since 11 hours ago | 16:08 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express: World: Lebanon orders lockdown for 169 towns, villages → https://is.gd/kBY5vI | 17:07 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Italy: +5456 cases (now 354950), +26 deaths (now 36166) since a day ago — US: +562 cases (now 7.9 million), +4 deaths (now 219304) since an hour ago | 17:08 |
| LjL | tinwhiskers: https://np.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/j95hce/can_we_trust_chinese_covid19_science/g8hkd7k | 17:29 |
| metreo | Ljl, https://techcrunch.com/2019/02/11/reddit-300-million/ | 17:33 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for United Kingdom: +11512 cases (now 603716) since 10 hours ago — US: +3260 cases (now 8.0 million), +11 deaths (now 219315) since 34 minutes ago — Arizona, US: +597 cases (now 225575) since a day ago | 17:37 |
| Brainstorm | New from BBC Health: Covid: Second national lockdown possible, says top UK scientist: The UK is at a "precarious point" as coronavirus cases continue to rise, warns Prof Peter Horby. → https://is.gd/2eUawp | 17:39 |
| LjL | I knew that, but | 17:40 |
| LjL | > Reddit’s CEO Steve Huffman has had his own problems with attribution after the exec was caught editing users’ comments to mislead viewers into thinking they were insulting their Subreddit’s moderators. Huffman managed to get off with just an apology and vow not to do it again, though he seemed to laugh off and excuse the abuse of power by saying “I spent my formative years as a young troll on the Internet.” | 17:40 |
| LjL | Well that is nice | 17:40 |
| metreo | Reddit is a pretty large dumpster fire at the moment | 17:41 |
| metreo | They _really_ are promoting anti-Trump content, it's almost unbearable, and I say that as someone who likes a spicy meme | 17:42 |
| LjL | So are Americans voting on whether to be controlled by Russia or China next election | 17:43 |
| metreo | Haha | 17:45 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health: (news): Democrats and Republicans dismiss Trump's coronavirus stimulus offer, dimming hopes for a deal → https://is.gd/37PfB5 | 17:50 |
| tinwhiskers | LjL: that was not a bad article but I'm not sure it answered the question posed in its title. | 18:00 |
| LjL | tinwhiskers, i was pointing to the comment | 18:00 |
| tinwhiskers | Oh... | 18:00 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health: (news): Companies are offering benefits like virtual therapy and meditation apps as Covid-19 stress grows → https://is.gd/yPIlGA | 18:01 |
| LjL | today we have about the same number of cases (both in Italy and Lombardy in particular) as yesterday, only with substantially fewer tests. oh joy. | 18:03 |
| tinwhiskers | LjL: this comment is interesting: Just one question. China says the virus can be spread via international cold chain that ships sea food, the West says it cannot. Who do you believe? | 18:07 |
| LjL | i noticed it | 18:07 |
| tinwhiskers | I haven't heard about that. Have you ever seen anything on it? | 18:07 |
| LjL | i have | 18:07 |
| tinwhiskers | Oh, ok | 18:07 |
| LjL | interestingly enough i believe NZ was one of the countries that hypothized that | 18:08 |
| tinwhiskers | Yes | 18:08 |
| LjL | and China also since they did not know where some of their new cases came from | 18:08 |
| LjL | but i don't know if it's anything more substantial than conjecture | 18:08 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for US: +2236 cases (now 8.0 million), +13 deaths (now 219328) since 36 minutes ago | 18:09 |
| LjL | we do know the virus (like most) can stay viable longer in the cold | 18:09 |
| tinwhiskers | Ah. I see. | 18:09 |
| tinwhiskers | Yeah | 18:09 |
| de-facto | i think it can be spread via cold chain, i remember that i have read some studies where they tried to culture viruses and infect cell cultures (yet i dont remember the source anymore) | 18:09 |
| LjL | and generally you cook stuff before eating it, but that doesn't protect people who handle the stuff | 18:09 |
| tinwhiskers | It makes some sense. I thought maybe there was some research/data from China on it | 18:09 |
| de-facto | it already can stay infectious on metal surfaces for over a week without cooling, they were able to replicate virus from that | 18:10 |
| LjL | "The new guidelines also underscored cold chain food processing and trading to reduce the risk of spreading the epidemic in the cold chain, which caused a second wave of infection in Beijing and Tianjin." https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1201023.shtml | 18:10 |
| LjL | now to find the source of this certain-sounding "which caused" | 18:11 |
| tinwhiskers | Heh | 18:11 |
| de-facto | but to be honest i think its an unlikely source of infection, so probably not significant unless the pathogen is almost or completely contained | 18:11 |
| tinwhiskers | de-facto: agreed | 18:11 |
| LjL | "China has repeatedly found traces of the pathogen on packaging and food" https://www.insurancejournal.com/news/national/2020/10/09/585998.htm (so why has the WHO insisted so much, and so has my government, that packages *from* China are safe? i don't want to randomly accuse China tinwhiskers, but they never stressed to us that packages from Belgium were safe) | 18:12 |
| Brainstorm | New from BBC Health: Covid: Second national lockdown possible, says top UK scientist: The UK is at a "precarious point" as coronavirus cases continue to rise, warns Prof Peter Horby. → https://is.gd/2eUawp | 18:12 |
| LjL | “We know that viruses usually can survive being frozen. So that means in theory it’s possible that infection could spread that way,” said Benjamin Cowling, head of epidemiology and biostatistics at the University of Hong Kong. “But in reality, it’s a very low risk that that would happen because so many steps would need to be involved.” | 18:12 |
| CoronaBot | 04/r/covid19: Anosmia is associated with lower in-hospital mortality in COVID-19 (88 votes) | https://www.jns-journal.com/article/S0022-510X(20)30499-8/fulltext | https://redd.it/j95h1e | 18:13 |
| tinwhiskers | Hrm. | 18:13 |
| LjL | "Food transmission evidence has been disclosed in China early July 2020 by the detection of SARS-CoV-2 on frozen foods, including their packaging materials and storage environments, with two re-emergent outbreaks linked to contaminated food sources." https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10311-020-01101-x | 18:14 |
| LjL | maybe this is more interesting | 18:14 |
| LjL | "While data are lacking on long-term survival and infectivity under these conditions, ample evidence has been shown on other coronaviruses, including SARS-CoV-1" | 18:14 |
| LjL | and yet what did the WHO say? "It is highly unlikely that people can contract COVID-19 from food or food packaging. [...] There is no evidence to date of viruses that cause respiratory illnesses being transmitted via food or food packaging." | 18:15 |
| LjL | so either there is evidence for SARS, or there isn't | 18:15 |
| LjL | either the WHO lies or the rest of this paper lies, uh? | 18:16 |
| tinwhiskers | Typical WHO response. They tend to treat absence of evidence as evidence of absence. | 18:16 |
| LjL | aside from the fact that, as usual, absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence, but the WHO must definitely have been absent the day they were explaining that | 18:16 |
| LjL | jinx | 18:16 |
| tinwhiskers | Heh | 18:17 |
| LjL | "The presence of SARS-CoV-2 was detected on frozen foods, including packaging materials and storage environments, with 9 incidents reported by health authorities across the country between early July and mid-August 2020." | 18:18 |
| LjL | even if it happens *rarely*, if you have a country of more than a billion people which is supposedly COVID-free now, even it happening just *once* can make an outbreak come back | 18:18 |
| tinwhiskers | Oh. Right... Right | 18:19 |
| tinwhiskers | It appears slightly more likely that NZ became reinfected that way than I thought then. | 18:20 |
| tinwhiskers | Given it was also a new serotype as well | 18:20 |
| tinwhiskers | Wait, is serotype the right term there? Phenotype. | 18:21 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health: (news): Democrats and Republicans dismiss Trump's coronavirus stimulus offer, dimming hopes for a deal → https://is.gd/37PfB5 | 18:23 |
| LjL | the two most upvoted comments in that whole thread are the ones that say "No" without any explanation whatsoever -.- | 18:27 |
| tinwhiskers | Heh | 18:33 |
| tinwhiskers | Of course that cold chain issue is pretty important for us here in Tonga as well. We import a lot of frozen chicken, mostly from Brazil. There's never been a case here but if there is an outbreak it's unlikely we can contain it and unlikely the medical system could cope at all. It would likely be a disaster. I wonder what the odds are. | 18:36 |
| LjL | tinwhiskers, well, at least we'd know for sure that it can happen! | 18:37 |
| tinwhiskers | Lol | 18:37 |
| tinwhiskers | I guess it might be safer to be back home in NZ where they've demonstrated an ability to handle it despite two outbreaks compared to here that is likely to handle it poorly but has never had an outbreak. | 18:40 |
| Brainstorm | New from BBC Health: Covid: Second national lockdown possible, says top UK scientist: The UK is at a "precarious point" as coronavirus cases continue to rise, warns Prof Peter Horby. → https://is.gd/2eUawp | 18:45 |
| LjL | tinwhiskers, i feel that's a guess with a very wide margin of error | 18:48 |
| LjL | seen it differently, you could say that both in Tonga and in NZ you are among the safest places in the world | 18:48 |
| LjL | that's a rosier way to view it | 18:48 |
| LjL | someone on the github page for our list of links gave me https://preview.zbmed.de/ | 18:49 |
| LjL | it seems potentially powerful, although i haven't played with it yet | 18:49 |
| CoronaBot | 04/r/coronavirus: Inhaled Vaccines Aim to Fight Coronavirus at Its Point of Attack: Vaccines sprayed into the nose or inhaled through the mouth won’t require needles and could be easier to roll out. | 18:50 |
| CoronaBot | They may be more effective too. (10022 votes) | https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-10-11/covid-19-inhaled-vaccines-may-be-more-effective-than-injections?utm_campaign=socialflow-organic&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&cmpid=socialflow-twitter-business&utm_content=business | https://redd.it/j93ijw | 18:50 |
| LjL | it has an API so that might be interesting for me to hook into the bot | 18:53 |
| tinwhiskers | LjL: yeah, looks interesting | 18:59 |
| LjL | i was hoping the API could provide a feed so that i could spam this place with EVERY new study but apparently not, search only :P | 19:00 |
| tinwhiskers | Awwww | 19:00 |
| LjL | anyway it's the first time i get anyone interact with the github thing at all! | 19:01 |
| tinwhiskers | Heh | 19:01 |
| Brainstorm | New from https://covid19.specops.network : ljl-covid: Add ZBMED preVIEW (site and API) → https://is.gd/FSS14Y | 19:07 |
| Brainstorm | New from CDC: Coronavirus [CoV]: Cases & Deaths by County → https://is.gd/yJtqEF | 19:17 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health: (news): Democrats and Republicans dismiss Trump’s coronavirus stimulus offer, dimming hopes for a deal → https://is.gd/37PfB5 | 19:28 |
| LjL | i'm doing it. removing CNBC for now. i see too much boringly US-specific stuff. if you disagree with removing it, speak now or forever hold your peace (well actually no, i can bring it back) | 19:30 |
| genera | hehe | 19:32 |
| LjL | it won't go away immediately anyway, i can't restart the bot between like 19 and 21 CEST or i will be yelled at by someone due to missing updates for something | 19:33 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: He called it a 'scamdemic.' Then his family fell ill, one by one. → https://is.gd/VD6O5W | 19:50 |
| metreo | I don't much care for the CNBC coverage personally | 19:56 |
| Jigsy | Someone reported that the number of UK cases today is the *exact* same number as last Sunday. | 19:56 |
| Jigsy | Guessing somebody royally fucked up again. | 19:57 |
| Jigsy | %cases UK | 20:00 |
| Brainstorm | Jigsy: In United Kingdom, there have been 603716 confirmed cases (0.9% of the population) and 45712 deaths (7.6% of cases) as of 2 hours ago. 27.0 million tests were performed (2.2% positive). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=United%20Kingdom for time series data. | 20:00 |
| Jigsy | Yup. | 20:01 |
| Jigsy | Even deaths are the same number. | 20:01 |
| Jigsy | How suspicious... | 20:01 |
| metreo | Excel failure? | 20:01 |
| LjL | :| the UK isn't doing a great job with their Excel sheels | 20:02 |
| LjL | sheets | 20:02 |
| metreo | It's been a royal mess, possibly scandalous considering the importance of the task | 20:02 |
| blkshp | sheesh | 20:02 |
| blkshp | Even we don't use excel anmore | 20:02 |
| Jigsy | They probably forgot to unhide a sheet. | 20:06 |
| metreo | Where did you crossreference the data from? I've been using scripts into this repo: https://github.com/neherlab/covid19_scenarios/tree/master/data | 20:07 |
| metreo | It pulls from here: https://github.com/neherlab/covid19_scenarios/blob/master/data/sources.json | 20:08 |
| metreo | There is at least several days of lag for most locations | 20:08 |
| metreo | So they won't provide information from today until later next week | 20:09 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health: (news): Democrats and Republicans dismiss Trump’s coronavirus stimulus offer, dimming hopes for a deal → https://is.gd/37PfB5 | 20:11 |
| Jigsy | [19:07:35] <metreo> Where did you crossreference the data from? | 20:14 |
| Jigsy | Basically I looked at today's data and the data from the 3rd on offloop. | 20:15 |
| Jigsy | But the numbers are coincidentally suspicious. | 20:15 |
| metreo | What number do you see for today, I'm not familiar with offloop | 20:16 |
| Jigsy | Offloop doesn't have today's numbers. | 20:16 |
| Jigsy | Yet. | 20:16 |
| Jigsy | https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/cases | 20:17 |
| Jigsy | https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/deaths | 20:17 |
| metreo | On the 4th for the UK there were 12,871 new cases according to my data | 20:17 |
| bin_bashtober | haven't seen this here yet: https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/09/k-overlooked-variable-driving-pandemic/616548/ | 20:18 |
| metreo | and 49 ICU recoveries | 20:18 |
| Brainstorm | New from BBC Health: Covid-19 virus 'survives on some surfaces for 28 days': Researchers find SARS-Cov-2 survives on glass, paper and stainless steel for longer than thought. → https://is.gd/i8ERuI | 20:33 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Coronavirus cases in world rising by 1 million every three days → https://is.gd/9QPE7v | 20:54 |
| Brainstorm | New from BBC Health: Covid-19 virus 'survives on some surfaces for 28 days': Researchers find SARS-Cov-2 survives for longer than thought - but only under certain conditions. → https://is.gd/i8ERuI | 21:16 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Hydroxychloroquine does not counter SARS-CoV-2 in hamsters, but a high dose of favipiravir does → https://is.gd/mLvv0e | 21:37 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: COVID Misinformation Is Killing People → https://is.gd/nl7fZb | 21:48 |
| bin_bashtober | https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(20)30561-2/fulltext | 21:57 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: ZShield: Unproven Protection from SARS-CoV-2 Infection, Especially for Kids → https://is.gd/lbKsEs | 21:59 |
| Brainstorm | New from BBC Health: Covid-19 virus 'survives on some surfaces for 28 days': Researchers find SARS-Cov-2 survives for longer than thought - but only under certain conditions. → https://is.gd/i8ERuI | 22:09 |
| whytek | bin_bashtober, hey, that is a very interesting concept - that contact tracing logic has been wrong, it should be retrospective. | 22:41 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: California kept prison factories open. Inmates worked for pennies an hour as COVID-19 spread → https://is.gd/S5iSXq | 22:53 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for US: +30641 cases (now 8.0 million), +347 deaths (now 219675) since 4 hours ago — France: +9320 cases (now 734974), +42 deaths (now 32683) since 17 hours ago | 22:54 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: MPs launch legal action over COVID contracts after the UK government has failed to account for £3bn spent on private contracts since the start of lockdown → https://is.gd/0aOmOy | 23:03 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Bill Gates Warns There Are ‘Lots Of Additional Deaths Coming’ In America Unless Coronavirus Response Improves → https://is.gd/qUsOSB | 23:14 |
| Brainstorm | New from Medical Xpress: India cases cross 7 million as experts warn of complacency: India's confirmed coronavirus toll crossed 7 million on Sunday with a number of new cases dipping in recent weeks, even as health experts warn of mask and distancing fatigue setting in. → https://is.gd/YRLg6K | 23:25 |
| bin_bashtober | whytek: yeah I was shocked that it was only forward | 23:26 |
| Brainstorm | New from Medical Xpress: Soaring virus infection puts more French cities on alert: Two more French cities on Sunday joined Paris and Marseille and four others in maximum alert status to fight back the coronavirus, surgical strikes with strict new measures to stop the spread of infections. → https://is.gd/bgez4R | 23:36 |
| LjL | but speaking of bot commands (which nobody is doing except me elsewhere), let's see | 23:41 |
| LjL | %papers assessing age specificity infection | 23:41 |
| Brainstorm | LjL, 3 papers: ASSESSING THE AGE SPECIFICITY OF INFECTION FATALITY RATES FOR COVID-19: META-ANALYSIS & PUBLIC POLICY IMPLICATIONS by Andrew T Levin et al, published on 2020-07-24 at http://medrxiv.org/cgi/content/short/2020.07.23.20160895 [... want %more?] | 23:41 |
| LjL | de-facto, ↑ | 23:41 |
| LjL | %papers date:yesterday | 23:42 |
| Brainstorm | LjL, 2 papers: Kidney injury molecule-1 is a potential receptor for SARS-CoV-2 by Chen Yang et al, published on 2020-10-10 at https://biorxiv.org/cgi/content/short/2020.10.09.334052 [... want %more?] | 23:43 |
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