| Brainstorm | Updates for US: +4080 cases (now 8.3 million), +24 deaths (now 223569) since 37 minutes ago | 00:24 |
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| Brainstorm | New from The Lancet: [Editorial] Global health: time for radical change?: What strategies should governments adopt to improve the health of their citizens? Amid the COVID-19 syndemic it would be easy to focus attention on global health security—at a minimum, strong public health and health-care systems. WHO has based its global health strategy on [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/MUMBMV | 01:05 |
| CoronaBot | 04/r/covid19: New measures to support roll-out of vaccines in the UK (80 votes) | https://www.gov.uk/government/news/new-measures-to-support-roll-out-of-vaccines-in-the-uk | https://redd.it/jccnj5 | 01:14 |
| Jigsy | 3>I genuinely do believe some people in the UK will be vaccinated before the year is out. | 01:49 |
| Jigsy | Where the fuck do these people get their optimism from? | 01:49 |
| Jigsy | We don't even have a vaccine yet. | 01:49 |
| Jigsy | Let alone before the end of the year, which is two months from now. | 01:49 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for US: +5422 cases (now 8.3 million), +53 deaths (now 223622) since an hour ago — Canada: +355 cases (now 194659), +9 deaths (now 9740) since 2 hours ago | 01:54 |
| Jigsy | Also not entirely sure why everyone wants to get back to the way things were before. | 01:54 |
| Jigsy | Those days sucked. | 01:55 |
| dTal | kinda liked the aspect where you could kiss people and stuff | 01:55 |
| Jigsy | I don't mean that. | 01:56 |
| Jigsy | I mean the commute to work and stuff. | 01:56 |
| Jigsy | People are so eager to get back to a depressing 9->5 job where you spend most of the day commuting. | 01:56 |
| Jigsy | It's just bizarre. | 01:56 |
| dTal | I miss my commute | 01:57 |
| Jigsy | O_o | 01:57 |
| Jigsy | Maybe that's just a UK thing. | 01:57 |
| dTal | Nowadays I just live at work | 01:57 |
| Jigsy | COVID-19 has finally thrust the world into the 21 century (more or less), but (some) people in the UK are keen to stick with the old ways... | 01:58 |
| dTal | my commute was 25 minutes by bike and 30 minutes by train | 01:58 |
| dTal | so I got nearly an hour of exercise and an hour of reading per day | 01:58 |
| Jigsy | So you spend 2h of your life journeying daily? | 01:58 |
| dTal | I did | 01:58 |
| dTal | But at least an hour of that would be time I would be spending exercising in some way anyway | 01:59 |
| Jigsy | Exercise and reading aside, that just sounds depressing. | 01:59 |
| dTal | or would be, if I had the discipline | 01:59 |
| dTal | I'd shorten the train part by 15 minutes, maybe | 01:59 |
| dTal | it's nice to have part of your morning ritual be sitting around drinking coffee, watching the world go by | 02:00 |
| dTal | I'd do without that in the evening | 02:00 |
| dTal | nowadays I roll out of bed and I'm basically instantly in work | 02:01 |
| dTal | *that's* depressing | 02:01 |
| Jigsy | I'd prefer that to be honest. | 02:01 |
| Jigsy | You can eat whatever you want, drink coffee whenever. | 02:01 |
| Jigsy | Listen to whatever. | 02:01 |
| Jigsy | You don't have people constantly bothering you. | 02:02 |
| Jigsy | The days of "people in higher positions needing to have underlings" should die. | 02:02 |
| Jigsy | There's a term for it... | 02:03 |
| Jigsy | Something ism. | 02:04 |
| dTal | why wouldn't I have people constantly bothering me | 02:06 |
| dTal | I still, you know, have a job | 02:06 |
| Jigsy | Yeah, but they can just summarize that in an e-mail. :P | 02:06 |
| dTal | no, inperson | 02:06 |
| dTal | all I've lost is independent living, distance from my job | 02:07 |
| dTal | believe me, in my situation you would be *craving* a commute | 02:07 |
| dTal | because when the commute is over you are Not At Work Anymore | 02:08 |
| dTal | now? I'm in bed and I can literally be in the office in 2 minutes | 02:08 |
| dTal | you can't switch off, ever | 02:09 |
| Jigsy | Why not just set times of work (9->5) then ignore everything outside of those times? | 02:09 |
| dTal | I do try of course but that's not how brains work | 02:11 |
| dTal | or at least not how mine works | 02:11 |
| dTal | work is *right there*, I've got something interesting going on with it because I enjoy my job to a large extent | 02:12 |
| dTal | how can I avoid thinking about it? | 02:12 |
| Jigsy | 3>because I enjoy my job to a large extent | 02:12 |
| Jigsy | Ah, one of the rare people. | 02:12 |
| dTal | I mean it's not perfect but if you don't like your job even a little what are you even doing with your life | 02:13 |
| Jigsy | I'm unemployed. :P | 02:14 |
| Jigsy | Though I believe most people hate their job. | 02:14 |
| Jigsy | People who love what they do are the rare few. | 02:15 |
| dTal | I didn't say I loved it | 02:15 |
| Jigsy | like/love* | 02:15 |
| dTal | but it does involve some degree of intellectual application which is nice | 02:16 |
| dTal | and a variety of physical tasks you can get zen about | 02:16 |
| dTal | to be honest, if I hated my job then this would 10 times more hellish | 02:17 |
| NGravity | pHD in Covid is a new task for Me | 02:17 |
| dTal | at least I'm trapped next to something interesting instead of something hateful | 02:17 |
| dTal | NGravity: as in phd about covid, or just obtained during covid times? | 02:17 |
| NGravity | Yeah 😜🤣🤣🤣🤣 | 02:18 |
| NGravity | All new 🤟😜👍 | 02:18 |
| Jigsy | [?] | 02:18 |
| LjL | god i wish we could go back to before the days of COVID, and emoji | 02:19 |
| Jigsy | I don't. | 02:20 |
| Jigsy | The old way of life sucked! | 02:20 |
| LjL | yes, the new one just sucks more | 02:20 |
| Jigsy | Only because of a killer virus at the moment. | 02:20 |
| Jigsy | But in time... | 02:20 |
| Jigsy | ... | 02:20 |
| Jigsy | Maybe I'm too optimistic about change. | 02:21 |
| LjL | in time we'll have dystopia and WW3 if the long-term consequences of prior pandemics are any indication | 02:21 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for France: +8122 cases (now 842892) since 4 hours ago — US: +546 cases (now 8.3 million), +5 deaths (now 223627) since 32 minutes ago — Netherlands: +16 deaths (now 6729) since 11 hours ago | 02:21 |
| Jigsy | Spanish Flu aside, was there a war after the Black Death? | 02:21 |
| LjL | well in those times there were always wars all over the place | 02:22 |
| LjL | so probably | 02:22 |
| LjL | also there wasn't really an "after", the black death just kinda kept coming back in waves | 02:22 |
| LjL | it just wasn't as bad anymore | 02:22 |
| Jigsy | Revolts, apparently. | 02:25 |
| ryouma | inequalities possibly rising during the pandemic. unknown direction of economies. businesses changing rapidly and some dying. polarization extreme in the us at least. resentments high. revanchism high. concerns about the world's superpower possibly not being a democracy (by some definition) any longer by jan 20. lots of folk with guns in the us, mostly correlated with partisanship. suppose militaries get vac | 02:35 |
| ryouma | cinated early. perhaps they will be used.\ | 02:35 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for US: +133 cases (now 8.3 million), +5 deaths (now 223632) since 17 minutes ago | 02:36 |
| ryouma | in addition, populations that are unwilling to even wear a mask much less do anything else. politicians unwilling to impose measures. uncertainty of vaccines working. uncertainty of treatments working. my gf decided to open packagets immediately and hold contents up to her chin and shirt without washing hands and won't even change clothes. | 02:37 |
| ryouma | so for 14d i will be very concerned | 02:39 |
| ryouma | i am not optimistic about the world, the us, my gf, or myself | 02:39 |
| ryouma | also some parts of command structures and populations and militaries possibly disrupted by virus thus considered opportune targets. idk historically. | 02:41 |
| metreo | I had to lookup 'revanchism' | 02:50 |
| metreo | I think the only people getting vaccinated before the end of the year are in clinical trials | 02:51 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for US: +1286 cases (now 8.3 million), +12 deaths (now 223644) since 17 minutes ago | 02:51 |
| tewn- | hi | 03:11 |
| metreo | hello | 03:16 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: US enters 3rd, possibly largest, coronavirus wave as new cases spike → https://is.gd/sOcKXi | 05:07 |
| de-facto | +7830 new infections in Germany | 05:16 |
| de-facto | for yesterday | 05:17 |
| ryouma | article says rural counties are being hit in us | 05:20 |
| ryouma | or, at least low population counties. idk what it is actually saying. | 05:20 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express: World: Belgium imposes Covid-19 curfew, closes bars and restaurants → https://is.gd/cqAqad | 05:41 |
| ryouma | it almost seems like western and eastern hemisphere stuff | 05:42 |
| ryouma | wrt measures | 05:42 |
| de-facto | Belgium following Netherlands example? | 05:46 |
| de-facto | I really do hope they can contain it, they were the country with most fatalities per capita in Europe | 05:47 |
| de-facto | fatalities already tripled during Oct in Belgium | 05:50 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express: World: Scientists defend trial questioning Remdesivir’s covid benefits → https://is.gd/9CNnqp | 06:26 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Belgium: +10192 cases (now 202151), +32 deaths (now 10359) since a day ago — France: +6272 cases (now 849164) since 4 hours ago — Netherlands: +936 cases (now 212874), +4 deaths (now 6733) since 4 hours ago — Canada: +84 cases (now 194743), +5 deaths (now 9744) since 5 hours ago | 07:07 |
| CoronaBot | 04/r/covid19: The SOLIDARITY Data (83 votes) | https://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archives/2020/10/16/the-solidarity-data | https://redd.it/jccdzk | 07:33 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Lombardy, Italy: +2419 cases (now 121130), +7 deaths (now 17044) since a day ago — France: +6336 cases (now 855500), +11 deaths (now 33314) since 33 minutes ago — Netherlands: +2006 cases (now 214880), +4 deaths (now 6737) since 33 minutes ago — United Kingdom: +1426 cases (now 690683) since 14 hours ago | 07:38 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express: World: Andorra becomes IMF’s 190th member as coronavirus pandemic hits tourist entries → https://is.gd/9ZsD84 | 07:55 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express (Health): Destination of the week: Pandemic puja prompts (adventurous) Bengalis to discover charms of Bengal this vacation season → https://is.gd/wBfEAX | 08:06 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health: (news): WHO concerned about Europe's coronavirus outbreak as ICU beds near capacity in some regions → https://is.gd/f2pAz9 | 08:39 |
| CoronaBot | 04/r/covid19: Early induction of SARS-CoV-2 specific T cells associates with rapid viral clearance and mild disease in COVID-19 patients (84 votes) | https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.10.15.341958v1 | https://redd.it/jcifsb | 08:58 |
| CoronaBot | 04/r/coronavirus: Denver requires mask-wearing outdoors, limits gathering to five people as coronavirus cases rise (10077 votes) | https://coloradosun.com/2020/10/16/denver-coronavirus-restrictions-rising-cases/ | https://redd.it/jchfj3 | 09:04 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express: World: Austrian foreign minister tests positive for COVID-19 after EU meeting → https://is.gd/jc3piR | 09:35 |
| darsie | oops | 09:44 |
| Brainstorm | New from Medical Xpress: Study reveals kidney disease or injury is associated with much higher risk of mortality for COVID-19 patients in ICU: New research published in Anaesthesia (a journal of the Association of Anaesthetists) reveals the much higher risk of mortality faced by COVID-19 patients in intensive care who have chronic kidney disease (CKD) [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/Kg9z9Y | 09:46 |
| Brainstorm | New from Medical Xpress: As US battles COVID-19, flu shot misinfo spreads: US health officials are pushing Americans to get vaccinated against the flu to help prevent hospitals already busy battling COVID-19 from being overwhelmed this winter, but false claims are threatening their efforts. → https://is.gd/C1bO9v | 10:08 |
| CoronaBot | 04/r/covid19: 1 in 3 excess deaths in the US not directly caused by COVID-19 (81 votes) | https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/1-in-3-excess-deaths-in-the-us-not-directly-caused-by-covid-19 | https://redd.it/jcpvnv | 10:46 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: SADS-CoV: Swine coronavirus could jump to humans, finds study → https://is.gd/2n3eI6 | 11:37 |
| ryouma | please no | 11:49 |
| darsie | Please go vegan. | 12:02 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express (Health): Health: More people reporting computer vision syndrome amid pandemic: ASSOCHAM → https://is.gd/nQLj7X | 12:11 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for US: +3023 cases (now 8.3 million), +37 deaths (now 223681) since 11 hours ago | 14:24 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Netherlands: +5172 cases (now 220052), +8 deaths (now 6737) since 7 hours ago | 14:39 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health: (news): U.S. is staring down a 'substantial third wave' of coronavirus cases. Here are the numbers → https://is.gd/tuoW8s | 15:29 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Daily Discussion Post - October 17 | Questions, images, videos, comments, unconfirmed reports, theories, suggestions → https://is.gd/3oi6nn | 16:02 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health: Bringing the outside into the office: Coronavirus bolsters push towards healthier building design: The coronavirus pandemic has bolstered corporate interest in redesigning work space to simulate nature, have better air filtration systems and use more sustainable materials, according to some office designers. → https://is.gd/zdkeHn | 16:13 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express: World: German president in quarantine after bodyguard tests positive for COVID-19 → https://is.gd/qxrpTq | 16:25 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health: U.S. reports highest number of new coronavirus case since late July as total climbs above 8 million: The U.S. has now reported more than 8 million Covid-19 cases and at least 218,600 Covid-19 deaths since the beginning of the pandemic, according to Johns Hopkins University data. → https://is.gd/zitoNX | 16:47 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for US: +4947 cases (now 8.3 million), +49 deaths (now 223730) since 2 hours ago — Netherlands: +1970 cases (now 222022), +19 deaths (now 6756) since 2 hours ago | 16:50 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Italy: +10925 cases (now 402536), +47 deaths (now 36474) since 23 hours ago — US: +100 cases (now 8.3 million), +2 deaths (now 223732) since 20 minutes ago | 17:05 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Tory council hands £50k of Covid-19 bailouts to fox hunting groups → https://is.gd/x3E6aI | 17:53 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: After praise for her COVID response, Jacinda Ardern wins election landslide in New Zealand → https://is.gd/ymwOKw | 18:04 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for United Kingdom: +14745 cases (now 705428) since 10 hours ago — US: +9675 cases (now 8.3 million), +153 deaths (now 223885) since an hour ago — Arizona, US: +921 cases (now 230407), +18 deaths (now 5824) since 22 hours ago — Canada: +807 cases (now 196192), +24 deaths (now 9746) since 10 hours ago | 18:05 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for US: +2482 cases (now 8.3 million), +31 deaths (now 223916) since 16 minutes ago | 18:20 |
| CoronaBot | 04/r/coronavirus: Slovakia to perform a full-scale COVID-19 testing. The entire population of the country is to be tested over 2 weekends. (10167 votes) | https://dennikn.sk/minuta/2092868/?ref=mpm | https://redd.it/jct25w | 18:25 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Frozen food package polluted by living coronavirus could cause infection, China's CDC says → https://is.gd/mAmt4p | 18:27 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for US: +754 cases (now 8.3 million), +11 deaths (now 223927) since 16 minutes ago | 18:35 |
| CoronaBot | 04/r/covid19: COVID-19 exposure risk for family members of healthcare workers: An observational study (81 votes) | https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1201971220305415 | https://redd.it/jcvnt2 | 18:43 |
| jacklsw | %cases malaysia | 18:45 |
| Brainstorm | jacklsw: In Malaysia, there have been 19627 confirmed cases (0.1% of the population) and 180 deaths (0.9% of cases) as of 6 hours ago. 1.9 million tests were performed (1.1% positive). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=Malaysia for time series data. | 18:45 |
| jacklsw | rising cases in malaysia >.< | 18:45 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for US: +4494 cases (now 8.3 million), +24 deaths (now 223951) since an hour ago | 19:36 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Coronavirus in Germany: Angela Merkel urges people to stay home 'whenever possible' → https://is.gd/LHJkO8 | 20:07 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for US: +3006 cases (now 8.3 million), +21 deaths (now 223972) since 52 minutes ago | 20:21 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for France: +11697 cases (now 867197), +89 deaths (now 33392) since 13 hours ago — US: +3740 cases (now 8.3 million), +27 deaths (now 223999) since 18 minutes ago — Canada: +294 cases (now 196486) since 2 hours ago | 20:36 |
| de-facto | %title https://www.bundeskanzlerin.de/bkin-de/mediathek/bundeskanzlerin-merkel-aktuell/podcast-coronavirus-1799292 Appeal in German from Merkel calling on citizens to help contain the virus spread | 20:37 |
| Brainstorm | de-facto: From www.bundeskanzlerin.de: Coronavirus: Merkel appelliert an die Bürgerinnen und Bürger. | 20:37 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Global coronavirus cases rise by one-day record of 400,000 → https://is.gd/gCHxAI | 20:40 |
| de-facto | thats interesting Slovakia performing mass testing | 21:31 |
| de-facto | https://dennikn.sk/minuta/2092868/?ref=mpm | 21:31 |
| bin_bashtober | smart | 21:43 |
| bin_bashtober | the US should be doing that but cheetoh man | 21:44 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: UK deaths up by 150 as UN chief warns divided world is failing Covid challenge → https://is.gd/dG8GPs | 22:09 |
| Brainstorm | New from Medical Xpress: Slovakia to test whole country for coronavirus: Slovak Prime Minister Igor Matovic said Saturday the eurozone member will test every resident ages 10 and up for the coronavirus, amid an uptick in infections. → https://is.gd/ejWH9B | 22:20 |
| Brainstorm | New from Medical Xpress: Italy's Lombardy region orders new anti-virus measures: The Italian region of Lombardy, the first European epicentre of the coronavirus pandemic, has ordered all bars to shut at midnight from Saturday as it battles a second wave of the disease. → https://is.gd/SYRNS6 | 22:31 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for US: +10743 cases (now 8.3 million), +165 deaths (now 224164) since 2 hours ago — Netherlands: +5 cases (now 222027), +1 deaths (now 6757) since 5 hours ago | 22:36 |
| Brainstorm | New from Medical Xpress: Iran announces its virus death toll passes 30,000: Iran announced Saturday that its death toll from the coronavirus has passed the milestone of 30,000, in what has been the Mideast region's worst outbreak. → https://is.gd/7MMhEK | 22:42 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for US: +3026 cases (now 8.3 million), +76 deaths (now 224240) since 20 minutes ago | 22:51 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health: (news): U.S. is staring down a 'substantial third wave' of coronavirus cases. Here are the numbers → https://is.gd/tuoW8s | 22:53 |
| de-facto | So Australia needs 1623 tests to find one positive case, that would be (100 - 100/1623) % = (100 - 0,06161) % = 99.93 % negative tests then, hence their false positive rates must be way below 0.06161% | 23:23 |
| de-facto | (100 - 100/1623) % = (100 - 0,06161) % = 99.94 % negative tests | 23:24 |
| de-facto | is there even any probability > 0% for false positives with PCR? | 23:25 |
| LjL | de-facto: in theory I don't know, in practice yes, from contamination | 23:33 |
| ryouma | "Stare down definition is - to cause to waver or submit by or as if by staring." | 23:34 |
| de-facto | yeah of course they would have to work clean | 23:34 |
| ryouma | stare at would work. stare down does not. | 23:35 |
| dTal | It can mean staring at something intimidating | 23:47 |
| dTal | if we're gonna argue about wording | 23:47 |
| dTal | although I can't substantiate that | 23:49 |
| ryouma | huh. i just copied m-w. | 23:55 |
| ryouma | stare down the barrel or so is plausible | 23:56 |
| ryouma | but htat's different | 23:56 |
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