libera/##covid-19/ Saturday, 2020-12-19

BrainstormUpdates for St. Martin: +117 cases (now 918) since 10 days ago — St. Barthelemy: +13 cases (now 175) since 10 days ago00:37
BrainstormNew from The Lancet (Online): [Correspondence] Calling for pan-European commitment for rapid and sustained reduction in SARS-CoV-2 infections: Across Europe, the COVID-19 pandemic is causing excess deaths, placing a burden on societies and health systems and harming the economy. European governments have yet to develop a common vision to guide the [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/1wCG4e00:42
BrainstormUpdates for Paraguay: +1268 cases (now 98296), +18 deaths (now 2050) since a day ago01:06
LjLyes, christmas is cancelled, i know01:28
BrainstormNew from FDA Press Releases: FDA Takes Additional Action in Fight Against COVID-19 By Issuing Emergency Use Authorization for Second COVID-19 Vaccine: Today, the FDA issued an emergency use authorization (EUA) for the second vaccine for the prevention of coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) caused by severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/Vu6Yw401:32
BrainstormUpdates for Canada: +6084 cases (now 494722), +113 deaths (now 14029) since 22 hours ago01:51
BrainstormNew from NPR: Moderna's COVID-19 Vaccine Becomes 2nd To Earn FDA Authorization: The Food and Drug Administration greenlights the biotech firm's vaccine for emergency use in the U.S. The move bolsters a vast inoculation effort that's already underway. → https://is.gd/nB2vX501:57
ap4lmtreeI live in los angeles.  what country you guys live in?  i survey how internet is country connected .... right now and that is just one question okay .... with internet current design as original .   i think the itnrenet is country net ,and i dont talk to europe people anymore like 90s... something look like it broken02:00
LjL18<25Brainstorm18> New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Green light to be given for the Oxford coronavirus vaccine before the New Year - UK → https://is.gd/dfrIQo02:03
LjLthis is ridiculous02:03
LjLthey don't REALLY know if it works02:03
LjLthey should wait for the new trial02:03
LjLwe should wait for the new trial02:03
LjL(and why did ap4lmtree get klined)02:03
BrainstormUpdates for France: +8584 cases (now 2.5 million) since 22 hours ago — Burundi: +9 cases (now 760), +1 deaths (now 2) since a day ago02:06
BrainstormNew from NPR: Stanford Apologizes After Vaccine Allocation Leaves Out Nearly All Medical Residents: Residents waged a protest on Friday, demanding to know why senior faculty were getting the vaccine before front-line workers who see COVID-19 patients. Stanford has agreed the plan was flawed. → https://is.gd/8Lo2xv02:09
jacklswwhat is k-lined?02:10
LjLbanned from all of freenode02:14
LjL(or a single server if this were any other network)02:14
BrainstormNew from Gazzetta Ufficiale italiana: DECRETO-LEGGE 18 dicembre 2020, n.172: Ulteriori disposizioni urgenti per  fronteggiare  i  rischi  sanitariconnessi alla diffusione del virus COVID-19. (20G00196) → https://is.gd/F90rY302:22
BrainstormNew from NPR: Maryland, Virginia To Send Extra COVID-19 Vaccine To D.C., Tripling Its Allotment: D.C.'s mayor urged the federal government to send more medicine to no avail. Now the states are sharing their supply to vaccinate health care workers who work in the capital but live elsewhere. → https://is.gd/TZcGAd02:47
CoronaBot04/r/covid19: FDA Takes Additional Action in Fight Against COVID-19 By Issuing Emergency Use Authorization for Second COVID-19 Vaccine (80 votes) | https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/fda-takes-additional-action-fight-against-covid-19-issuing-emergency-use-authorization-second-covid | https://redd.it/kfxm3m03:45
BrainstormUpdates for Netherlands: +42 deaths (now 10407) since 20 hours ago03:51
LjLBrainstorm18> New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Boris Johnson calls crisis meeting over new Covid strain → https://is.gd/8aqLWi03:58
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: COVID-19 Vaccine Can Turn People Into "Crocodiles": Brazilian President → https://is.gd/5Jdvf104:16
DocScrutinizer05>>[19 Dec 2020 02:03:30] <LjL> (and why did ap4lmtree get klined)<< any news?04:29
LjLDocScrutinizer05, he posted the same thing he posted here in several other channel, and unsurprisingly, that got him k-lined. i did point out to #freenode that it was probably stupid as heck, but not malicious, but then it's up to staff04:30
DocScrutinizer05an /AMSG maybe?04:30
DocScrutinizer05yeah, the sigyn-gets-angry situation. Standard response by staff: >>THEY must send a email to helpme@freenode.whatever<<04:32
DocScrutinizer05>>  | /msg Sigyn unkline <nick> ( you must be opped - 30 minutes after kline max ) | https://freenode.net/news/spamfilter  <<04:33
LjLyes, i specifically noted that i was just pointing it out but it otherwise wasn't my business04:33
LjLbecause i really could do without the standard reply04:33
LjLwell we don't have sigyn here04:33
DocScrutinizer05indeed04:34
LjLi'm not a huge fan of sigyn, i've seen it misfire too often for my likings04:34
DocScrutinizer05though I'm not even sure if that's a prerequisite04:34
LjLwell it says "you must be opped" so presumably you must be opped in a channel that sigyn is in04:34
DocScrutinizer05makes sense indeed04:35
LjLanyway i'm guessing it will expire in 24h at worst04:35
LjLin which case he deserves it for doing something pretty dumb04:35
DocScrutinizer05:nod: also I don't know for sure (quite a few years since I been k-lined ;-D ) but iirc they jill comes with some help text by now04:39
DocScrutinizer05the kill*04:39
DocScrutinizer05the question itself vas pretty weird actially04:40
DocScrutinizer05>>COVID-19 Vaccine Can Turn People Into "Crocodiles": Brazilian President<< *headdesk*04:41
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Angela Merkel 'incredibly proud' of BioNTech founders: The German chancellor has voiced her appreciation for BioNTech, the small German firm behind the first coronavirus vaccine to get regulatory approval. Merkel said the shot will save "many lives." → https://is.gd/iMu4MZ04:54
BrainstormUpdates for Thailand: +34 cases (now 4331) since a day ago05:05
CoronaBot04/r/coronavirus: Frontline workers protest at Stanford after hospital distributed vaccine to administrators | The hospital was accused of prioritising administrators over some medical residents and nurses in first wave of vaccine distribution (10191 votes) | https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/stanford-vaccine-protest-hospital-workers-b1776403.html | https://redd.it/kfv03005:09
BrainstormNew from The Indian Express: World: France’s Emmanuel Macron blames his COVID on negligence, bad luck → https://is.gd/5xNV8A05:19
LjLwait when did Macron get COVID, i missed that one05:24
bin_basha day or two ago05:40
bin_bashmaybe 3 or 405:40
BrainstormUpdates for Belgium: +2835 cases (now 621039), +84 deaths (now 18455) since a day ago05:51
DocScrutinizer05I guess he *got* it while meeting with Merkel et al06:09
DocScrutinizer05LjL: ^^^ >>A fellow European leader who spent time with Macron at an EU summit last week, Slovak Prime Minister Igor Matovic, tested positive for the virus on Friday. Some other leaders present at the summit reported testing negative...<< (Merkel among the latter)06:14
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Covid 19 vaccine can turn people into crocodiles - Brazilian President → https://is.gd/EbOjc006:21
de-facto[m]RKI Germany 2020-12-19: weekly incidence 189.6, infections +31300 (1471238 total), fatalities +702 (25640 total), covid@icu 4859 (inc 2579 on ventilator)06:28
de-facto[m]Weekly accumulated incidence per 100k citizens that is06:29
de-facto[m]weekly accumulated incidence over 500/100k 8 areas in Saxony, one in Rhineland Palatinate and one in Bavaria06:34
de-facto[m]Again more deaths than USA on average and oer citizen06:36
de-facto[m]This is absolutely unacceptable.06:37
de-facto[m]Active cases even increasing +14600 (360100) thats 0.4% of population06:39
de-facto[m]One in 230 got an active infection detected06:40
de-facto[m]real numbers probably 5-fold of that or more06:41
de-facto[m]Hence likely 2.2% or one in 46 currently active06:43
de-facto[m]This is just fucking crazy, i totally blame mismanagement.06:43
DocScrutinizer05wait, that can't be right06:45
DocScrutinizer05aah in saxony, not in wgole germany06:45
de-facto[m]Average detected new infections accumulated over a week in whole of Germany are 189.6/100k06:47
DocScrutinizer05no idea what those numbers are meant to be, but one thing I can tell for sure: when I look outside, I don't see 1 in 46 ill here06:51
de-facto[m]This is like an astronomical failure in management and should have fatal consequences for those that should be responsible to prevent something like this from happening.06:52
de-facto[m]If it was as easy as looking out the window to estimate prevalence we would need no statd06:53
de-facto[m]Wieler from RKI estimates a factor of 4-6 between real number of infections and those detected by testing06:57
de-facto[m]Hence my multiplication by 506:57
de-facto[m]We just dont have enough Testing capacity thanks to incompetent Jens Spahn not using the expensive time to increase it06:59
de-facto[m]Samples enqueue in labs 06:59
de-facto[m]One in 10 comes back positive thats fuckung ridiculous one oeder of magnitude too much07:00
de-facto[m]one order of magnitude07:00
DocScrutinizer05please, a tad less emotional07:02
de-facto[m]some regions 17 fold above traceable levels07:02
de-facto[m]Ok sorry i will stop07:02
BrainstormUpdates for Germany: +32830 cases (now 1.5 million) since 18 hours ago — St Martin, France: +117 cases (now 918) since 10 days ago07:05
de-facto[m]https://www.rki.de/DE/Content/Gesundheitsmonitoring/Studien/lid/lid_node.html07:09
DocScrutinizer05on a sidenote: seems at least in my town (and so probably originating in RKI and thus nation wide) they changed software used in health office during last days, which at least here caused massive bogus numbers in stats07:11
DocScrutinizer05%tr <de Fälle gesamt: 13.944 (+309)    ➡️ Verstorben: 184 (+67)    Wichtig: Der heutige hohe Anstieg der Anzahl der Todesfälle hat technische Gründe. Es gibt keine besondere Zunahme von Todesfällen in Nürnberg. ➡️ 42 Todesfälle sind Nachträge aus der letzten Zeit, bei denen die Totenscheine im Nachgang anders klassifiziert wurden. ➡️ 25 haben mit der Umstellung und Klassifizierung der neuen Software „Aeskulab21“ 07:11
DocScrutinizer05zu tun, mit der die Daten an LGL und RKI gemeldet 07:11
BrainstormDocScrutinizer05, German to English: Total cases: 13,944 (+309) ➡️ Deaths: 184 (+67) Important: Today's high increase in the number of deaths is due to technical reasons. There is no particular increase in deaths in Nuremberg. ➡️ 42 deaths are recent supplements in which the death certificates were subsequently classified differently. ➡️ 25 have started with the [... want %more?]07:11
BrainstormNew preprint: Household bubbles and COVID-19 transmission: insights from percolation theory by Leon Danon et al, published on 2020-12-18 at https://medrxiv.org/cgi/content/short/2020.12.16.20248311 — The Persistence of Vaccine Hesitancy: COVID-19 Vaccination Intention by Jagadish Thaker et al, published on 2020-12-18 at https://medrxiv.org/cgi/content/short/2020.12.16.20248139 [... want %more?]07:12
de-facto[m]http://www.klinikum.uni-muenchen.de/Abteilung-fuer-Infektions-und-Tropenmedizin/de/COVID-19/KoCo19/Aktuelles/index.html07:14
de-facto[m]"Seropositivity for SARS-CoV-2 specific antibodies was 1ꞏ82% (95% confidence interval (CI) 1ꞏ28-2ꞏ37%) as compared to 0ꞏ46% PCR-positive cases officially registered in Munich"07:17
de-facto[m]Thats 3.96 fold07:18
DocScrutinizer05so as expected07:19
DocScrutinizer05actually at low end of expected range07:19
de-facto[m]Yeat i just wanted to give some references to my assumed factor of 5 fold07:19
de-facto[m]This 4 fold probably is the lower limit07:21
DocScrutinizer05the study been done (tests performed) 12. Juni 202007:22
de-facto[m]Yup so quite  old07:23
de-facto[m]Probably right now we got even more undetected given labs enqueue samples despite 10% positive quote07:25
de-facto[m]Idk how to predict upper limit, hopefully not like 10 fold or such07:26
de-facto[m]If i remember correctly there was another seroprevalence study done in munich schools in summer showing 6 fold undetected07:28
de-facto[m].title https://www.cell.com/med/fulltext/S2666-6340%2820%2930020-907:30
Brainstormde-facto[m]: From www.cell.com: A Public Health Antibody Screening Indicates a 6-Fold Higher SARS-CoV-2 Exposure Rate than Reported Cases in Children: Med07:30
de-facto[m]https://www.helmholtz-muenchen.de/aktuelles/uebersicht/pressemitteilungnews/article/48939/index.html07:31
de-facto[m]Oh nice quite a LOT more https://www.rki.de/EN/Content/infections/epidemiology/outbreaks/COVID-19/AK-Studien-english/Sero_General.html07:33
de-facto[m]%title07:33
Brainstormde-facto[m]: From www.rki.de: RKI - COVID-19 - Seroepidemiological studies in the general population07:33
de-facto[m]%title https://www.rki.de/EN/Content/infections/epidemiology/outbreaks/COVID-19/AK-Studien-english/Sero_List.html07:34
Brainstormde-facto[m]: From www.rki.de: RKI - COVID-19 - Seroepidemiological studies in Germany07:34
de-facto[m]%title https://serohub.net/en/07:38
Brainstormde-facto[m]: From serohub.net: LEOSS.sero-survey07:38
de-facto[m]%title https://serohub.net/en/studies/07:41
Brainstormde-facto[m]: From serohub.net: Seroprevalence studies | LEOSS.sero-survey07:41
BrainstormUpdates for Baden-Wurttemberg, Germany: +4284 cases (now 206397), +97 deaths (now 3892) since a day ago — Gelderland, Netherlands: +1816 cases (now 70010), +7 deaths (now 1164) since a day ago — Moscow Oblast, Russia: +1485 cases (now 135130), +34 deaths (now 2645) since a day ago — Brandenburg, Germany: +1328 cases (now 33715), +34 deaths (now 710) since a day ago08:05
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Asia Today: Sydney beach suburbs in lockdown as cases rise → https://is.gd/HI9BPz08:13
de-factothats quite interesting the paper from Brainstorm earlier08:20
de-facto%title https://medrxiv.org/cgi/content/short/2020.12.16.2024831108:20
Brainstormde-facto: From medrxiv.org: Household bubbles and COVID-19 transmission: insights from percolation theory | medRxiv08:20
DocScrutinizer05lockdown in Sydney australian summer? :-o08:44
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Daily Discussion Thread | December 19, 2020: The WHO pages contain up-to-date and global information. Please refer to our Wiki for additional information. → https://is.gd/NiziGp09:03
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: COVID-19: New coronavirus strain spreading faster than previous variant, UK government scientists warn ministers → https://is.gd/W2dRAR09:53
BrainstormNew from Medical Xpress: COVID-19 models plot dire scenarios for California hospitals: When Gov. Gavin Newsom provided a dire view of California's out-of-control surge of coronavirus cases and hospitalizations this week, he referred to projection models of future death and misery that he said were becoming "alarmingly" more accurate. → https://is.gd/6HQlM510:43
DocScrutinizer05>>New coronavirus strain spreading faster<< :-/10:47
BrainstormNew from StatNews: First Opinion: Opinion: As the pandemic rages, demoralization deflates health care workers → https://is.gd/Klt9Xj10:56
BrainstormNew from The Indian Express: World: China to vaccinate ‘key groups’ over winter, spring – official → https://is.gd/su055W11:33
BrainstormNew from Ars Technica: Science: A clever strategy to deliver COVID aid—with satellite data → https://is.gd/xsrjZe12:24
BrainstormNew from StatNews: Opinion: In the shadow of Covid-19 lurks the threat of a fearful measles outbreak: Wars have been halted to allow global vaccination campaigns to continue. Protection against potentially deadly childhood illnesses like measles must not be forgotten in the fight against Covid-19. → https://is.gd/HEs03713:14
BrainstormNew from The Indian Express: World: Covid-19: These countries have started rolling out vaccines; check full list here → https://is.gd/CAjYPp13:52
BrainstormUpdates for Channel Islands: +137 cases (now 2526), +3 deaths (now 52) since 12 hours ago14:05
BrainstormNew from Ars Technica: Policy: As expected, FDA authorizes use of the Moderna COVID vaccine → https://is.gd/lxdXLS14:16
BrainstormUpdates for Germany: +710 deaths (now 26036) since 23 hours ago14:37
BrainstormNew from WebMD: The Vaccine Was Fast. Here's How to Make it Faster: The most ambitious vaccine deployment in history promises to stop a pandemic that has already claimed 1.67 million lives. But what if a vaccine for COVID-19 had been available sooner, say as early as March? → https://is.gd/PIUCtJ14:42
BrainstormUpdates for US: +253870 cases (now 17.9 million) since 22 hours ago — Switzerland: +41 deaths (now 6582) since 23 hours ago14:51
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Switzerland approves use of Covid-19 vaccine by Pfizer-BioNTech. It's over 90% effective in all age brackets. → https://is.gd/8MZgD715:31
CoronaBot04/r/covid19: Antibody-Dependent Enhancement (80 votes) | https://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archives/2020/12/18/antibody-dependent-enhancement | https://redd.it/kfr4li15:43
drytrumpetq15:55
drytrumpetclose15:55
BrainstormNew from The Indian Express (Health): Health: Stroke, altered mental state increase death risk for COVID-19 patients: Study → https://is.gd/DDNfoc15:57
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: If Canada has excess COVID-19 vaccines they 'absolutely' will be shared: PM → https://is.gd/9WWv3C16:09
BrainstormNew from StatNews: Health: A side-by-side comparison of the Pfizer/BioNTech and Moderna vaccines → https://is.gd/xuL8EX16:59
BrainstormUpdates for Canada: +5002 cases (now 497703), +75 deaths (now 14067) since 23 hours ago17:08
BrainstormUpdates for United Kingdom: +27052 cases (now 2.0 million), +534 deaths (now 67075) since 22 hours ago17:22
BrainstormUpdates for Netherlands: +12217 cases (now 676673), +52 deaths (now 10459) since 13 hours ago — Italy: +16305 cases (now 1.9 million), +553 deaths (now 68447) since 18 hours ago17:36
BrainstormNew from Reddit (test): Saturday 19 December Update: submitted by /u/HippolasCage to r/CoronavirusUK → https://is.gd/xR6EFs17:49
BrainstormUpdates for Cuba: +131 cases (now 10024) since a day ago17:50
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: New coronavirus strain up to 70% more transmissible, government says → https://is.gd/NRX87Q18:02
CoronaBot04/r/covid19: Statement from Chief Medical Officer, Professor Chris Whitty about new strain of Covid-19 (85 votes) | https://www.gov.uk/government/news/statement-from-chief-medical-officer-professor-chris-whitty-about-new-strain-of-covid-19 | https://redd.it/kg9x8018:08
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Leaked Documents Show How China’s Army of Paid Internet Trolls Helped Censor the Coronavirus → https://is.gd/OcazDj18:15
de-factoVery interesting article about Antibody-Dependent Enhancement by Derek Lowe https://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archives/2020/12/18/antibody-dependent-enhancement18:24
BrainstormNew from StatNews: Operation Warp Speed leader takes sole responsibility for Covid-19 vaccine distribution confusion: The military leader of Operation Warp Speed said Saturday that he takes sole responsibility for last week’s confusion over the allotment of the Pfizer-BioNTech Covid-19 vaccine to states. → https://is.gd/pO5Zst18:40
darsieWhat does it mean to take responsibility?18:54
CoronaBot04/r/coronavirus: The U.S. has recorded 250,000 cases in a day for the first time. (10287 votes) | https://www.nytimes.com/live/2020/12/18/world/covid-19-coronavirus/the-us-has-recorded-over-250000-cases-in-a-day-for-the-first-time | https://redd.it/kg75fh19:03
BrainstormUpdates for Arizona, US: +5560 cases (now 448231), +118 deaths (now 7937) since a day ago19:08
de-facto"Dr Emma Hodcroft" https://twitter.com/firefoxx6619:17
de-factoshe is fastest with anything about mutations19:19
de-factohttps://virological.org/t/preliminary-genomic-characterisation-of-an-emergent-sars-cov-2-lineage-in-the-uk-defined-by-a-novel-set-of-spike-mutations/56319:20
de-facto%title19:20
Brainstormde-facto: From virological.org: Preliminary genomic characterisation of an emergent SARS-CoV-2 lineage in the UK defined by a novel set of spike mutations - nCoV-2019 Genomic Epidemiology - Virological19:20
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: New COVID-19 variant that is 70% more transmissible threatens UK. London suddenly put on lockdown and Christmas is canceled. → https://is.gd/POjmR119:31
BrainstormNew from NPR: Warp Speed Official: 7.9 Million Doses Of Vaccine Ready For Distribution Next Week: The top military official with the federal vaccine effort spoke less than 24 hours after Moderna's COVID-19 vaccine became the second to win an emergency use authorization from the FDA. → https://is.gd/bHnZw020:08
BrainstormNew from "Cluster 5" on Wikipedia: Rich Farmbrough: /* International reactions */: International reactions ← Previous revision Revision as of 19:20, 19 December 2020 Line 32: Line 32: == International reactions == == International reactions == − On 6 November, the United Kingdom announced that Denmark would be removed from the "corridor" [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/74bzDF20:33
BrainstormUpdates for Switzerland: +36 deaths (now 6597) since 20 hours ago20:36
BrainstormNew from "Cluster 5" on Wikipedia: Rich Farmbrough: Copyedit.: Copyedit. ← Previous revision Revision as of 19:39, 19 December 2020 Line 16: Line 16: == Timeline == == Timeline == − === Discovery === === Discovery === On 4 November 2020, Prime Minister of Denmark [[Mette Frederiksen]] stated that a mutated coronavirus was being transmitted to [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/74bzDF20:46
BrainstormUpdates for Germany: +307 deaths (now 26279) since 23 hours ago20:50
BrainstormNew from "Cluster 5" on Wikipedia: Rich Farmbrough: /* External links */: External links ← Previous revision Revision as of 19:53, 19 December 2020 Line 35: Line 35: ==References== ==References== {{Reflist}} {{Reflist}} + ⚫ {{Use dmy dates|date=November 2020}} + ==External links== + * + {{COVID-19}} {{COVID-19}} + {{Authority control}} ⚫ {{Use [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/74bzDF20:58
BrainstormNew from "Cluster 5" on Wikipedia: AnomieBOT: Dating maintenance tags: {{Update-inline}}: Dating maintenance tags: {{Update-inline}} ← Previous revision Revision as of 20:13, 19 December 2020 Line 31: Line 31: == International reactions == == International reactions == − On 6 November, the United Kingdom announced that Denmark would be removed from [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/74bzDF21:23
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Millions forced to cancel Christmas as 'new variant' of coronavirus spreads in U.K. → https://is.gd/STPHF922:01
BrainstormNew from NPR: Congress Stuck, Again, In Quest To Pass COVID Relief: Congressional leaders returned to familiar ground Saturday, digging in on opposite sides of a stalemate over a coronavirus relief package they all is badly needed to help struggling Americans. → https://is.gd/gMVeFK22:26
BrainstormUpdates for Colombia: +13990 cases (now 1.5 million), +249 deaths (now 40268) since 23 hours ago23:08
BrainstormNew from StatNews: Health: CDC advisory panel unanimously recommends use of Moderna Covid-19 vaccine → https://is.gd/SNKUBk23:54

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