| Brainstorm | Updates for Colombia: +17576 cases (now 1.7 million), +344 deaths (now 45067) since 23 hours ago | 00:01 |
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| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Israeli minister orders jails not to vaccinate Palestinian security prisoners → https://is.gd/GIThE2 | 00:09 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Lancet (Online): [Comment] Wakley–Wu Lien Teh Prize Essay 2020: passing the baton to the next generation of health workers: In 2020, health workers have worked tirelessly in response to COVID-19. For this year's Wakley–Wu Lien Teh Prize,1 we called for essays of the experiences of health professionals in China during the COVID-19 [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/ccsh5G | 00:34 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Netherlands: +8843 cases (now 851571) since 23 hours ago — Switzerland: +32 deaths (now 8178) since 7 hours ago | 01:21 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Germany: +21324 cases (now 1.9 million) since 9 hours ago | 03:20 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Boris Johnson says Covid deniers who claim pandemic is hoax need to 'grow up' → https://is.gd/Y3e6kX | 03:26 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: New Covid drugs ‘significantly’ reduce mortality in critically ill, study finds → https://old.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/kst5co/new_covid_drugs_significantly_reduce_mortality_in/ | 04:02 |
| LjL | %tell de-facto https://www.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/ksd9yq/moderna_ceo_says_vaccine_likely_to_protect_for/gihxcs7/ | 04:51 |
| Brainstorm | LjL, I'll pass de-facto your message when they are around. | 04:51 |
| mg0 | yep | 05:08 |
| gigasu_shida | and how long to native antibodies last? | 05:15 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine appears effective against mutation in new coronavirus variants -study → https://is.gd/LJpKiA | 05:15 |
| mg0 | not sure | 05:18 |
| LjL | gigasu_shida, probably less than the ones from the mRNA vaccines, given those numbers | 05:20 |
| LjL | but who knws | 05:20 |
| mg0 | did you get one yet? | 05:21 |
| LjL | i wish | 05:23 |
| LjL | it'll be months before i can get one | 05:23 |
| de-facto | %tell LjL https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2032195 | 05:25 |
| Brainstorm | de-facto: At 2021-01-08 03:51:25 UTC, LjL told you: https://www.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/ksd9yq/moderna_ceo_says_vaccine_likely_to_protect_for/gihxcs7/ | 05:25 |
| Brainstorm | de-facto, I'll pass LjL your message when they are around. | 05:25 |
| Brainstorm | New from Reddit (test): CoronaVirus_2019_nCoV: U.K. Imposes Mandatory Covid Tests on All Incoming Travelers → https://is.gd/nrxU34 | 05:27 |
| LjL | de-facto, still a pretty short followup time. but given these antibody levels, i do expect Pfizer/Moderna to last a decent amount of time | 05:28 |
| de-facto | yeah probably not too much difference id assume | 05:29 |
| LjL | i think the problem for me will be that when the time comes for me to get a vaccine, i'll be offered AZ or some other non-mRNA vaccines | 05:30 |
| LjL | which, so far, don't seem to be nearly as good | 05:30 |
| LjL | i hope my parents will be offered Pfizer | 05:31 |
| LjL | i know there is not a lot of data on older people, but AZ with its 50-70% efficacy just seems meh | 05:31 |
| LjL | i don't believe the 90% claim without more data | 05:31 |
| de-facto | id guess the Brits are working on it..? Remember its still in rolling in EMA | 05:32 |
| mg0 | my dad died today of covid complications. he was 82, but very healthy 2 weeks ago with no underlying conditions. He carried himself as a healthy 60 year old. The virus destroyed his lungs and kidneys. | 05:33 |
| mg0 | it's no joke | 05:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | slight decay? PAH!!! :-/ | 05:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | all-time highs | 05:34 |
| de-facto | im sorry to hear that mg0 | 05:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | moin! | 05:35 |
| mg0 | de-facto: thank you. he would of lived to 95 or beyond i am sure if it weren't for covid | 05:36 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | +31,849 F: +1,188 | 05:37 |
| mg0 | i bet it could effect a much younger individual the same way | 05:37 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | it does. Sorry, mg0 | 05:38 |
| de-facto | RKI Germany COVID-19 2021-01-08: Weekly incidence 136.5/100k, Infecitons +31849 (1866887 total), Fatalities +1188 (38795 total), COVID@ICU 5488 (incl. 3100 on ventilator) | 05:41 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | how's the ICU trend? | 05:46 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | vs yesterday | 05:47 |
| mg0 | i never knew what a ICU was until 2 weeks ago | 05:47 |
| mg0 | 😐️ | 05:48 |
| de-facto | 2021-01-07 COVID@ICU 5471 (incl 3091 on ventilator), 2021-01-08 COVID@ICU 5488 (incl. 3100 on ventilator) | 05:48 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | plateau | 05:49 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | the RKI numbers are still nogus, but today to the high side | 05:50 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | bogus even | 05:50 |
| LjL | mg0, were you able to say goodbye? | 05:51 |
| mg0 | yea, via facetime | 05:51 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Covid: Nurse 'angry' over positive test despite vaccination → https://is.gd/1xG3HK | 05:52 |
| LjL | awful | 05:52 |
| mg0 | was nice. he was unable to talk or see us. but i think he heard us | 05:52 |
| mg0 | then they took him off the vent | 05:52 |
| LjL | i'm going to bed now but i want to make it clear that while this channel is usually talking about scientific papers and vaccines and such, throwing a tantrum about loved ones who got hit by COVID or whatever you feel the need to say, it's all okay | 05:54 |
| mg0 | yes, i have no medical background. i am a dev. i will leave. thanks for your support | 05:55 |
| LjL | that's the opposite of what i meant :( | 05:56 |
| LjL | it seems i'm not very good at expressing what i mean | 05:59 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express: World: Japan declares state of emergency for Tokyo area as Covid-19 cases surge → https://is.gd/Brhzyq | 06:04 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Germany: +27029 cases (now 1.9 million), +1056 deaths (now 39167) since 12 hours ago | 06:07 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | LjL: I think psychological impact, both at large and subjectively, and results thereof, as well as personal experiences and observations, well within topic, no? | 06:08 |
| LjL-Matrix | Yes | 06:11 |
| LjL-Matrix | Psychological support is explicitly on topic | 06:12 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Belgium: +2923 cases (now 658655), +53 deaths (now 19936) since 22 hours ago | 06:26 |
| de-facto | .title https://stopcovid19.metro.tokyo.lg.jp/en/ | 06:50 |
| Brainstorm | de-facto: From stopcovid19.metro.tokyo.lg.jp: Updates on COVID-19 in Tokyo | Tokyo Metropolitan Government COVID-19The Information website | 06:50 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express: World: Singapore PM receives first dose of COVID-19 vaccine → https://is.gd/zFeVai | 07:05 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Eritrea: +106 cases (now 1445) since 2 days ago — Mongolia: +87 cases (now 1395), +1 deaths (now 2) since 3 days ago | 07:09 |
| Brainstorm | New preprint: Protection against reinfection with D614- or G614-SARS-CoV-2 isolates in hamsters by Marco Brustolin et al, made available as preprint on 2021-01-07 at https://biorxiv.org/cgi/content/short/2021.01.07.425729 [... want %more?] | 07:22 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express: World: Australian city of Brisbane in lockdown after Covid-19 variant case → https://is.gd/s1sRqj | 07:29 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express: World: Brazilian study says Sinovac COVID-19 jab 78% effective → https://is.gd/yXdAGv | 07:41 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Parana, Brazil: +32436 cases (now 463309), +397 deaths (now 8630) since a day ago — New York, United States: +17588 cases (now 1.1 million), +206 deaths (now 39118) since a day ago — Indiana, United States: +7270 cases (now 546499), +80 deaths (now 8823) since a day ago — Missouri, United States: +4740 cases (now 423908), +71 deaths (now 6054) since a day ago | 07:47 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express (Health): Life-style: ‘Nobody knew it would be a virus’: Astrologers on the pandemic and 2021 → https://is.gd/PCtVC8 | 08:18 |
| IndoAnon | de-facto: also, an update from my side of the world | 08:24 |
| IndoAnon | workplace: 25% max occupancy; all retail store closed an 7pm... Java & Bali island. Total population ~ 160M | 08:26 |
| IndoAnon | *at | 08:26 |
| IndoAnon | for the next 2 weeks | 08:27 |
| gigasu_shida | IndoAnon: i thought ppl in indonesia still go to the kantor | 08:39 |
| gigasu_shida | just wear a mask in the office | 08:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | so cool https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Protein_translation.gif | 08:42 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | it has a phase (membrane transfer) that isn't shown - maybe due to timeout for playback - when I watch it in https://berthub.eu/articles/posts/reverse-engineering-source-code-of-the-biontech-pfizer-vaccine/ (ubercool, RECOMMENDED) | 08:44 |
| IndoAnon | gigasu_shida: Mate, everyone supposedly wear mask inside office | 09:04 |
| gigasu_shida | i know, but it doesn't make sense to reduce retail store occupancy | 09:05 |
| IndoAnon | It's just people had to replenished their energy by ingesting food | 09:05 |
| gigasu_shida | if they still allow people to go into the office | 09:05 |
| IndoAnon | well, consider this | 09:05 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Daily Discussion Thread | January 08, 2021: The WHO pages contain up-to-date and global information. Please refer to our Wiki for additional information. → https://is.gd/MPHlGZ | 09:05 |
| gigasu_shida | ini apa sih | 09:08 |
| IndoAnon | gigasu_shida: | 09:08 |
| IndoAnon | Lo gak bs baca moonrises? | 09:08 |
| gigasu_shida | nope lol | 09:08 |
| IndoAnon | Coba cek aj whitepapernya klo nggak | 09:08 |
| IndoAnon | kiri bawah | 09:08 |
| gigasu_shida | apa kamu orang jepang? | 09:09 |
| IndoAnon | nope | 09:09 |
| IndoAnon | lo orang indo ago? | 09:09 |
| IndoAnon | * ato? | 09:09 |
| gigasu_shida | iya pak | 09:09 |
| IndoAnon | oho | 09:09 |
| IndoAnon | Lg pake proxy? | 09:09 |
| gigasu_shida | yes | 09:09 |
| IndoAnon | wkwk | 09:09 |
| gigasu_shida | brb butuh the | 09:10 |
| gigasu_shida | teh* | 09:10 |
| IndoAnon | It's becoming apparent that the transmission occured because people didn't adhered to required safety procedures | 09:11 |
| jacklsw | hey neighbours xD | 09:12 |
| jacklsw | selamat petang | 09:12 |
| IndoAnon | Ye, petang kali ini sangat berawan | 09:12 |
| jacklsw | how's your country vaccination plan IndoAnon? | 09:13 |
| IndoAnon | jacklsw: On 13 Jan, the president will be the first person vaxxed, outside of research subjects | 09:14 |
| IndoAnon | Nevertheless, I expect sinovac unable to deliver hundred millions of vaxx to ID | 09:16 |
| IndoAnon | *by this year | 09:16 |
| jacklsw | even sg PM already taken the vaccine | 09:17 |
| jacklsw | malaysia will only start vaccination by end of feb | 09:17 |
| jacklsw | wth | 09:17 |
| de-facto | IndoAnon, interesting, its good that they do something about it, in Germany it seems incidence is so high that measures still dont really show effects | 09:19 |
| de-facto | closing stores earlier is not such a brilliant idea imho it condenses shopping to less time hence increases contact rates | 09:19 |
| IndoAnon | Jujur saja, memanggil benda tersebut sebagai "vaccine" tidaklah tepat. Karena, pembuatnya saja tidak menjamin ketiadaan transmisi setelah dua dosis | 09:20 |
| de-facto | 2 weeks is minimum time for some effects to begin to show in the daily numbers afaik | 09:20 |
| IndoAnon | de-facto: it's poorly planned and inadequate | 09:20 |
| jacklsw | now it's so called emergency use | 09:21 |
| jacklsw | hmm | 09:21 |
| jacklsw | IndoAnon: more like we sumbat covid to fight covid haha | 09:22 |
| jacklsw | some will develop immunity | 09:22 |
| de-facto | i read Japan also is on alert in Tokyo | 09:22 |
| IndoAnon | de-facto: pushing people to use online and phone shopping would be better... Pickup it on the store, and you could still pick some fresh produce walk in | 09:23 |
| de-facto | yeah stores should either be fully open (with limits to customer numbers according to floor area) or completely closed, restricting opening to less time is contra-productive imho | 09:24 |
| IndoAnon | Can't say much about immunity. Most of serologic test on people with severe symptoms--described on the journal--plummeted on third and fourth month | 09:24 |
| de-facto | do you think the COVID fatality counts are somewhat accurate? | 09:25 |
| de-facto | ~200 daily | 09:26 |
| IndoAnon | 8-10% spike on the annual death rate reflected thah | 09:26 |
| IndoAnon | >more like we sumbat covid to fight covid | 09:26 |
| de-facto | pretty young median age in Indonesia ~30< | 09:26 |
| de-facto | pretty young median age in Indonesia ~30y | 09:27 |
| IndoAnon | >SARS-CoV-2 RBD in vitro evolution follows contagious mutation spread, yet generates an able infection inhibitor | 09:27 |
| IndoAnon | 9,99>Using in vitro evolution to affinity maturate the receptor-binding domain (RBD) of the spike protein towards ACE2, resulted in the more contagious mutations, S477N, E484K, and N501Y to be among the first selected. This includes the British and South-African variants. Plotting the binding affinity to ACE2 of selected RBD mutations against their incidence in the population shows a strong correlation between the two99,99 | 09:27 |
| IndoAnon | 9,99>Further in vitro evolution enhancing binding by 600-fold provides guidelines towards potentially new evolving mutations with even higher infectivity. Yet, the high-affinity RBD is also an efficient drug, inhibiting SARS-CoV-2 infection. The 2.9A Cryo-EM structure of the high-affinity complex, including all rapidly spreading mutations provides structural basis for future drug development99,99 | 09:27 |
| IndoAnon | https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.01.06.425392v1 | 09:27 |
| de-facto | im asking because COVID fatalities are somewhat independent of testing (if they are accounted correctly ofc) | 09:27 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | IndoAnon: sorry, can't read that green stuff | 09:28 |
| IndoAnon | I'm confident that most of the death included on fatality toll are indeed caused, or triggered by corona | 09:28 |
| IndoAnon | DocScrutinizer05: just read the paper, mate | 09:29 |
| IndoAnon | diabetes, renal failure, cardiovascular, abcess, GERD | 09:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | why would I? to dind out what you sent in green letters? | 09:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | find* | 09:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | %title | 09:31 |
| Brainstorm | DocScrutinizer05: From www.biorxiv.org: SARS-CoV-2 RBD in vitro evolution follows contagious mutation spread, yet generates an able infection inhibitor | bioRxiv | 09:31 |
| de-facto | IndoAnon, yeah but what about the other way: are the covid fatalities somewhat complete or is there to be expected a dark number of unknown covid fatalities? | 09:32 |
| IndoAnon | DocScrutinizer05: wait | 09:34 |
| de-facto | lol | 09:36 |
| IndoAnon | de-facto: excess death is the soft-limit of unidentified covid fatalities | 09:36 |
| CoronaBot | 04/r/coronavirus: Police will fine Brits without face mask the first time they're caught from now on (10125 votes) | https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/police-will-fine-brits-without-face-mask-the-first-time-theyre-caught-from-now-on/ar-BB1cyKha | https://redd.it/ksp4yk | 09:36 |
| de-facto | IndoAnon, hmm well yay and nay because due to changes other fatality rates also get affected, hence maybe covid fatalities could hide under the average excess death rates from previous years | 09:38 |
| IndoAnon[m] | > * <@freenode_DocScrutinizer05:matrix.org> blames dang matrix bridge | 09:38 |
| IndoAnon[m] | DocScrutinizer05 , are you able to see the rest of content? | 09:38 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | you mean this? >> [8 Jan 2021 09:34:54] * IndoAnon[m] sent a long message: < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/PntBJyltQuUluwMIoerWbkLZ/message.txt > << | 09:38 |
| de-facto | "IndoAnon[m] sent a long message" <-- i dont like that matrix bridge doing that | 09:39 |
| IndoAnon | ye | 09:39 |
| de-facto | its a very stupid concept, people have to click the link and it does not even integrate into the logs | 09:40 |
| de-facto | they should split it into several chunks and send them rate limited | 09:40 |
| IndoAnon | ... | 09:42 |
| Brainstorm | New from Medical Xpress: Heading outdoors keeps lockdown blues at bay: A new study has found that spending time outdoors and switching off our devices is associated with higher levels of happiness during a period of COVID-19 restrictions. → https://is.gd/CzyeZ6 | 09:42 |
| de-facto | IndoAnon, the reason i am asking about how accurate the COVID fatalities in Indonesia may be is in order to be able to compare it somehow to other countries because testing probably is very different in every country | 09:44 |
| de-facto | so fatality rates should be normalizable with a countries demographic structure and the IFR[age] | 09:45 |
| de-facto | hence give an estimate for real infection numbers per capita | 09:45 |
| IndoAnon | Yes, we could extrapolate through statistical tricks | 09:48 |
| IndoAnon | I'm not sure on the true infected people... But, I'm confident at the death toll | 09:50 |
| de-facto | yeah thats what i meant, so the currently ~200 COVID fatalities per day are some what corrent then? | 09:51 |
| IndoAnon | Most of the time, the remains will be tested to rule out whether they harbour the pathogen or not... Yes, I'm confident | 09:51 |
| IndoAnon | >are some what corrent then? <^ | 09:52 |
| de-facto | ok good to know | 09:52 |
| IndoAnon | Using simple charting analysis, Indo's government doesn't rigged the data often. Accurate to 2-3% | 09:54 |
| gigasu_shida | malas gw vaksin | 09:54 |
| IndoAnon | Ngapain gan, itu gak menjamin lo gak bakal terinfeksi | 09:55 |
| IndoAnon | And | 09:56 |
| gigasu_shida | hooh kalo saya semoga dapat pfizer | 09:57 |
| IndoAnon | Semuanya kagak jelas.. Bohwat dah | 09:57 |
| IndoAnon | Lo biasa di reddit ato 4chan? | 09:57 |
| IndoAnon | Ato discord kek | 09:58 |
| gigasu_shida | hanya disini pak | 09:58 |
| IndoAnon | My acquaintence recently told me that his neighbour, 2-3 blocks away, 35 YO girl died with corona, presumably after complication with her TBC | 09:59 |
| IndoAnon | Oho | 09:59 |
| gigasu_shida | tbc? | 09:59 |
| IndoAnon | tubercolosis | 09:59 |
| gigasu_shida | oh shit | 09:59 |
| IndoAnon | Nasty, yes | 10:00 |
| gigasu_shida | sorry to hear about that | 10:00 |
| gigasu_shida | there's no doubt it's dangerous. sometimes young and healthy people have a crazy reaction to the virus | 10:00 |
| IndoAnon | That's why i always say "mungkin nyawa mereka murah" | 10:01 |
| IndoAnon | For those who're not vigilant against this virus | 10:01 |
| gigasu_shida | well the truth is people aren't even sure basic masks do anything to stop the virus | 10:02 |
| IndoAnon | Not all cloth mask are the same, some absorbent microfiber have 95% effectiveness | 10:03 |
| gigasu_shida | masker kain dasar ato masker non-N95 | 10:03 |
| IndoAnon | Hehe, lo nggak disini 11 bulan yg lalu sih | 10:03 |
| IndoAnon | Ada bahan kain yang bagus banget, kek lap motor gitu | 10:04 |
| gigasu_shida | haha really | 10:04 |
| IndoAnon | Hasil test bagus, orang2 banyak pake itu sebagai alternatif | 10:04 |
| IndoAnon | But, people are too stupid. They think all the mask are the same | 10:05 |
| Brainstorm | New from BBC Health: South Africa coronavirus variant: What is the risk?: Why experts are concerned about the emergence of this particular new version of coronavirus. → https://is.gd/HEe7Ut | 10:06 |
| IndoAnon | Anda tahu kan komplikasi2 lainnya yang bisa dibilang, nggak worthed | 10:06 |
| IndoAnon | >unable to taste nor smell | 10:06 |
| gigasu_shida | kamu dokter? | 10:07 |
| gigasu_shida | nggak worthed = not worth the risk (?) | 10:07 |
| gigasu_shida | worthed tidak ada di bahasa inggris | 10:08 |
| gigasu_shida | btw what is 'bohwat' ? | 10:09 |
| IndoAnon | mate https://www.thefreedictionary.com/worthed | 10:09 |
| gigasu_shida | nobody says 'worthed' tho | 10:10 |
| gigasu_shida | they say "not worth it" or "not the worth the risk" | 10:11 |
| gigasu_shida | isn't it? | 10:11 |
| IndoAnon | gigasu_shida: worthwhile also works | 10:11 |
| gigasu_shida | i think so, yeah | 10:11 |
| gigasu_shida | what is bohwat? | 10:11 |
| IndoAnon | Itu slang bro | 10:12 |
| IndoAnon | kyk "capek" | 10:12 |
| gigasu_shida | is it like pusing? | 10:12 |
| gigasu_shida | oh yeah, like tired/overwhelmed | 10:13 |
| gigasu_shida | i don't know where you're from but that seems like strange slang | 10:13 |
| IndoAnon | That's true | 10:14 |
| IndoAnon | Jadetabek | 10:15 |
| IndoAnon | 9,99>#China's Sinopharm vaccine 'most unsafe in world' with 73 side effects | 10:15 |
| gigasu_shida | efek samping pembesaran alat kelamin =| | 10:15 |
| IndoAnon | Klo ada, mak erot dkk bs bangkrut | 10:16 |
| IndoAnon | >2) Shanghai-based vaccine expert, Tao Lina (陶黎納), uploaded a digital version of the vaccine's instruction manual & counted the conditions listed in the 'adverse reactions' column." He found that there were 73 local/systemic adverse reactions associated with the vaccine. | 10:17 |
| Brainstorm | New from Medical Xpress: UK virus strain triggers snap lockdown in Australia's Brisbane: Australia's third-largest city headed into lockdown and borders were set to tighten nationwide Friday, after a cleaner at a quarantine hotel contracted the UK coronavirus strain that appears to be more infectious. → https://is.gd/Ck2hbQ | 10:18 |
| gigasu_shida | maybe a lot of people participated in the trial | 10:20 |
| gigasu_shida | if that's the case, more side effects will show up | 10:20 |
| IndoAnon | >The vaccine expert found that in addition to pain in the injection site and headache, there were severe side effects listed that were "more likely to occur," such as high blood pressure, loss of vision, loss of taste, delayed menstruation, and urinary incontinence. | 10:21 |
| IndoAnon | >He wrote that the 73 adverse reactions to the vaccine listed on the manual make it what he describes as the "most unsafe vaccine in the world in one fell swoop." | 10:21 |
| IndoAnon | >Tao wrote that no inactivated vaccine has more types of adverse reactions than this product. He also asserted that this number of adverse reactions is "absolutely unprecedented." | 10:21 |
| gigasu_shida | whoa | 10:21 |
| IndoAnon | >He stated that other doctors jokingly described the manual as "one long disclaimer." However, he alleged that as long as the side effects are listed in the manual, recipients are not entitled to compensation if they occur. | 10:23 |
| IndoAnon | wkwk | 10:23 |
| IndoAnon | >Tao, 43, has been working in the Shanghai Center for Disease Control and Prevention (SCDC) since August of 2000 and is responsible for vaccine management. In late December of last year, Beijing Business Today interviewed him on issues related to the COVID-19 vaccine. | 10:24 |
| IndoAnon | >His Weibo account was quickly deleted by authorities. His page now states "this content cannot be viewed due to violation of regulations." | 10:24 |
| gigasu_shida | ugh | 10:25 |
| IndoAnon | tau darlin in.the franxx? | 10:26 |
| gigasu_shida | huh? | 10:26 |
| IndoAnon | https://myanimelist.net/anime/35849 | 10:29 |
| Brainstorm | New from Medical Xpress: Two Chinese cities sealed off to squash virus outbreak: China has sealed off two cities south of Beijing, cutting transport links and banning millions of residents from leaving, as authorities move to stem the country's largest COVID-19 outbreak in six months. → https://is.gd/wuRIe0 | 10:30 |
| gigasu_shida | wkwk i haven't stayed up-to-date on my anime | 10:33 |
| IndoAnon | ... | 10:35 |
| Brainstorm | New from Medical Xpress: COVID surges dim hopes for speedy end to pandemic: The United States reported a daily record of COVID-19 deaths and Brazil's toll passed the bleak milestone of 200,000 Thursday as new surges of the coronavirus dimmed hopes for respite from the pandemic anytime soon. → https://is.gd/wNXl08 | 10:42 |
| Brainstorm | New from Medical Xpress: Fraught history haunts Japan virus vaccine roll-out: A history of vaccine controversies in Japan may cast a long shadow over the coronavirus jab roll-out, experts warn, even as the country battles a severe third wave of infections. → https://is.gd/N4Rahf | 10:55 |
| IndoAnon | RFC | 10:57 |
| IndoAnon | >the adenovirus ones are pretty safe because much research is behind those vectors. also, when your body makes antibodies from the shot, it's producing immunity to the adenovirus, not the coronavirus. for that reason, these vaccines are not so great for immunity because many people already have immunity to adenovirus 5. i think for china's vaccine it was around ~1/3 would have innate immunity already. | 10:57 |
| IndoAnon | >i think adenovirus vaccines are pretty safe (all vaccines have side effects) but are not enough alone to build population immunity. since the beginning, it's been obvious the plan is "start here" then "we'll find another one" but somewhere down the line things changed and they went straight to mRNA | 10:57 |
| gigasu_shida | interesting | 10:59 |
| gigasu_shida | but i don't get it lol | 10:59 |
| IndoAnon | >it's producing immunity to the adenovirus, not the coronavirus. for that reason, these vaccines are not so great for immunity | 11:02 |
| gigasu_shida | "disebutkan alat vitalnya memanjang sampai tiga inchi" hmmmm wkwk | 11:02 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | sorry, this is not legible to me even in black on white | 11:05 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express: World: ‘I don’t trust them’: Iran’s top leader bans Covid vaccines from US, Britain → https://is.gd/muEyA0 | 11:06 |
| gigasu_shida | thanks for the info about the adenovirus thing | 11:07 |
| gigasu_shida | i have to go now IndoAnon | 11:07 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | adeno is AZ, right? | 11:08 |
| gigasu_shida | not sure | 11:08 |
| gigasu_shida | but i will look into it tomorrow | 11:08 |
| gigasu_shida | i am rather curious | 11:08 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | %vaccines | 11:08 |
| Brainstorm | DocScrutinizer05: Specify search keywords! | 11:08 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | %vaccines astra-zeneka | 11:09 |
| Brainstorm | DocScrutinizer05, no such vaccine found. Try checking https://covidvax.org | 11:09 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | %papers astra-zeneka | 11:09 |
| Brainstorm | DocScrutinizer05: An error occurred while searching. | 11:09 |
| IndoAnon | gigasu_shida: no worries | 11:10 |
| gigasu_shida | kamu dokter IndoAnon ? | 11:10 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | https://covid19.specops.network/#oxford-astrazeneca | 11:10 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | >>the Oxford/AstraZeneca adenovirus-vectored vaccine<< | 11:11 |
| gigasu_shida | nevermind | 11:11 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | %vaccines astrazeneca | 11:13 |
| Brainstorm | DocScrutinizer05, AZD 1222 is a Non-replicating viral vector vaccine developed in UK by Oxford University + AstraZeneca + Cobra Biologics + Oxford Biomedica + Merck KGaA + Halix BV + Pall Corporation + SGS + India's Serum Institute + Catalent Biologics + CSL Limited, which began its distribution on date January 2021 with participants → https://covidvax.org/covid19-vaccine/OxfordUni | 11:13 |
| IndoAnon | Most of the regulars here read more journal than average doctor | 11:14 |
| IndoAnon | *medical journal | 11:14 |
| Brainstorm | New from Medical Xpress: EU doubles BioNTech/Pfizer vaccine order to 600 mn jabs: The EU has struck a deal to double its supply of BioNTech/Pfizer vaccine against COVID-19 to a total of 600 million doses, European Commission chief Ursula von der Leyen said on Friday. → https://is.gd/ZwX9Qz | 11:19 |
| Brainstorm | New from Medical Xpress: Travellers to England, Scotland will need negative COVID tests: Travellers arriving in England and Scotland will soon be required to show negative coronavirus tests, officials said on Friday, as they try to curb the spread of new strains. → https://is.gd/rftxDS | 11:31 |
| Brainstorm | New from Medical Xpress: Bhutan records first coronavirus death: The Himalayan kingdom of Bhutan on Friday recorded its first coronavirus death after 10 months of seeking to isolate itself from the global pandemic. → https://is.gd/q106ch | 11:43 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Indonesia: +10617 cases (now 808340), +233 deaths (now 23753) since a day ago | 11:48 |
| J35P3R4D0 | Are we all ready for our implantable nano transponders? | 11:56 |
| Brainstorm | New from EMA: What's new: News: Extra dose from vials of Comirnaty COVID-19 vaccine → https://is.gd/CY0OSH | 12:08 |
| Brainstorm | New from Emma Hodcroft: @firefoxx66: It didn't have to be like this.It doesn't have to continue like this.But we must have a plan. Be ready to act swiftly.And be willing to bring cases down, to save lives and livelihoods.#SARSCoV2#LivesAndLivelihoods → https://is.gd/2uyymJ | 12:44 |
| Brainstorm | New from Medical Xpress: BioNTech says vaccine 'neutralises' key mutation in UK, S.Africa strains: German company BioNTech said Friday a preliminary study shows that its vaccine works against the key mutation in coronavirus variants uncovered in Britain and South Africa which experts have said is more contagious than the original COVID-19 strain. → https://is.gd/Ss8R6C | 12:56 |
| Brainstorm | New from Scientific American: Coronavirus News Roundup, January 2-January 8: Pandemic highlights for the week -- Read more on ScientificAmerican.com → https://is.gd/Rk3oyY | 13:09 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Senegal: +296 cases (now 20672), +8 deaths (now 446) since 19 hours ago — Germany: +27628 cases (now 1.9 million), +1056 deaths (now 39219) since 19 hours ago | 13:09 |
| Brainstorm | New from BBC Health: Third Covid vaccine approved in the UK: The vaccine is made by Moderna and works in a similar way to the Pfizer jab already being offered. → https://is.gd/rVFyCv | 13:21 |
| Brainstorm | New from StatNews: Health: Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine not affected by mutation seen in contagious coronavirus variant, study indicates → https://is.gd/a9Hibz | 13:57 |
| CoronaBot | 04/r/covid19: Butantan vaccine reaches 100% effectiveness for moderate and severe cases (84 votes) | https://www.saopaulo.sp.gov.br/sala-de-imprensa/release/vacina-do-butantan-atinge-100-de-eficacia-para-casos-moderados-e-graves/ | https://redd.it/kt076p | 14:02 |
| Brainstorm | New from ScienceNews: Health & Medicine: A new polio vaccine joins the fight to vanquish the paralyzing disease → https://is.gd/52cDbh | 14:10 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express: World: Indonesia clerics declare China COVID vaccine ‘halal’ → https://is.gd/Cmi3mz | 14:22 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Zambia: +1029 cases (now 25326), +18 deaths (now 441) since 21 hours ago — Bhutan: +1 deaths (now 1) since 21 hours ago | 14:42 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express: World: UK approves Moderna vaccine for rollout against Covid-19 → https://is.gd/pEQpLP | 14:47 |
| Brainstorm | New from EMA: What's new: Medicine: Human medicines European public assessment report (EPAR): Prevenar 13, pneumococcal polysaccharide conjugate vaccine (13-valent, adsorbed), Pneumococcal Infections,Immunization, Date of authorisation: 09/12/2009, Revision: 40, Status: Authorised → https://is.gd/rEQxR0 | 15:12 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | >>Butantan vaccine reaches 100% effectiveness<< HMMMM doesn't sound legit | 15:32 |
| Brainstorm | New from StatNews: Pharma: STAT+: Pharmalittle: Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine seems to work against Covid-19 mutation; Sarepta gene therapy shows mixed results → https://is.gd/bs6pgV | 15:36 |
| mjensen[m] | "100% effective for grave and moderate cases", I'm not sure exactly what that means but it sounds like wordsmithing by the BR govt | 15:55 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Switzerland: +3219 cases (now 477983) since 22 hours ago — Germany: +29542 cases (now 1.9 million), +1090 deaths (now 39289) since 22 hours ago | 15:57 |
| mjensen[m] | The article says they didn't have one extreme case of covid-19 in the volunteers immunized with that vaccine. They don't define what "extreme" is, it sounds subjective. | 15:58 |
| Brainstorm | New from Medical Xpress: Ready, set, vaccinate! But how can the government boost coverage?: The rapid availability of effective COVID-19 vaccines is a good thing, and the government has launched a nationwide campaign to promote vaccination. But will that campaign work? Florian Heine, researcher at Tilburg University, believes it will, provided the [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/bilw8w | 16:00 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Portugal: +10176 cases (now 466709), +118 deaths (now 7590) since 22 hours ago — Chile: +4205 cases (now 633381), +61 deaths (now 16974) since 22 hours ago | 16:03 |
| Brainstorm | New from Medical Xpress: Record number of COVID cases, deaths reported in U.S. again: A record-shattering number of coronavirus infections and deaths were reported Thursday in the United States, as health officials fretted about a new, more contagious variant that has now been detected in eight states. → https://is.gd/ESEQ4T | 16:12 |
| Brainstorm | New from Medical Xpress: NFL urges teams to offer stadiums as vaccination centers: The National Football League is asking teams to use their stadiums as places people can go to get vaccinated for COVID-19, CBS News reported Wednesday. → https://is.gd/6zes9J | 16:25 |
| Brainstorm | New from Medical Xpress: Brisbane's COVID lockdown has a crucial difference: it aims to squash an outbreak before it even starts: Greater Brisbane's 72-hour COVID lockdown, which takes effect at 6pm on Friday, has a crucial difference from the months-long lockdown endured by Melbourne earlier this year, or the current restrictions aimed at stamping out [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/iR9SEo | 16:37 |
| Brainstorm | New from Medical Xpress: Test change for travellers to UK as virus cases mount: All travellers to Britain will need pre-departure coronavirus tests, the government said Friday, as it tries to curb spiralling infection rates that are stretching health services to the limit. → https://is.gd/QpK8JX | 16:49 |
| LjL-Matrix | mjensen: anyway keep in mind that the amount of cases they've had in the vaccine arm (with most vaccines, so far) is really tiny. If you have 10 cases in total and none of them are severe, do you really feel statistically comfortable saying "the vaccine prevents severe cases"? | 16:59 |
| Brainstorm | New from ClinicalTrials.gov: (news): A Real World Study of Bamlanivimab in Participants With Mild-to-moderate Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) → https://is.gd/DlG7NH | 17:02 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Lesotho: +819 cases (now 5170), +3 deaths (now 79) since 15 hours ago — Netherlands: +8664 cases (now 860211), +87 deaths (now 12175) since 23 hours ago | 17:17 |
| Brainstorm | New from ClinicalTrials.gov: (news): poSt Covid-19 Infection centraL Sensitisation 2 → https://is.gd/d3emJY | 17:27 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for United Kingdom: +25564 cases (now 2.9 million), +483 deaths (now 78991) since 23 hours ago | 17:36 |
| genera | and a siebentagsinzidenz above 1000 | 17:50 |
| Brainstorm | New from ClinicalTrials.gov: (news): A Real World Study of Bamlanivimab in Participants With Mild-to-moderate Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) → https://is.gd/DlG7NH | 17:52 |
| Brainstorm | New from Medical Xpress: Q&A: Childhood vaccinations during the pandemic: DEAR MAYO CLINIC: My son is turning 6 soon, and we usually schedule a well-child visit with his pediatrician around his birthday. I know he needs several vaccinations, but with COVID-19 still being around, I'm wondering if I should postpone the appointment. Is it safe for him to [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/BsPYBz | 18:06 |
| Brainstorm | New from Medical Xpress: London mayor seeks help as UK sees record new virus deaths: London's mayor declared the capital's COVID-19 situation to be critical Friday, reflecting deteriorating conditions for beleaguered hospitals, as the country recorded its highest daily death toll in the pandemic. → https://is.gd/3vhQhu | 18:18 |
| de-facto | "the adenovirus ones are pretty safe because much research is behind those vectors. also, when your body makes antibodies from the shot, it's producing immunity to the adenovirus, not the coronavirus." <-- this is a wrong statement imho | 18:28 |
| de-facto | the very *goal* of vaccinations against COVID-19 is to produce both antibodies and cellular immunity against SARS-CoV-2 | 18:29 |
| Brainstorm | New from Medical Xpress: Vaccine rollout hits snag as health workers balk at shots: The desperately awaited vaccination drive against the coronavirus in the U.S. is running into resistance from an unlikely quarter: Surprising numbers of health care workers who have seen firsthand the death and misery inflicted by COVID-19 are refusing shots. → https://is.gd/ajzsFi | 18:30 |
| de-facto | that vector vaccines (e.g. those Adenovirus ones) also produce some antibodies against the viral vector (hence the Adenovirus) is an unwanted sideeffect | 18:30 |
| LjL | IndoAnon, what de-facto said... whoever wrote that seems to have a slightly convoluted understanding of how adenovirus-based vaccines work. of course producing immunity to the adenovirus is a potential problem, and at least something that wasn't wanted, and of course if you're already immune to the adenovirus that's likely to make the vaccine less effective. BUT for sure the vaccine is meant mainly to produce immunity to the coronavirus. that person sounds | 18:34 |
| LjL | like they think that, magically, the immunity to the adenovirus also gives some "inferior" immunity to the coronavirus. it doesn't. | 18:34 |
| LjL | it just doesn't give any immunity to the coronavirus: that's accomplished by the adenovirus having DNA in it that instructs your cells to produce the spike protein, *and then* you gain immunity to that | 18:34 |
| pigughs | https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/In-Cuba-All-International-Travelers-to-Receive-Nasalferon-20210107-0020.html | 18:38 |
| pigughs | interferon ? | 18:39 |
| Brainstorm | New from Medical Xpress: UK reports record 1,325 coronavirus deaths over 24 hours: Britain on Friday reported a record 1,325 deaths over a 24 period from people testing positive for coronavirus, as a surge in cases piled pressure on overstretched health services, forcing London to declare a major incident. → https://is.gd/S3vgna | 18:43 |
| de-facto | yup LjL i just had to comment on that because if people read it they should not spead the wrong version of it | 18:44 |
| IndoAnon | That's why I add *RFC* | 18:44 |
| de-facto | what does RFC mean? | 18:45 |
| de-facto | RequestForComments? | 18:47 |
| de-facto | (sorry im not so familiar with those abbreviations) | 18:48 |
| LjL | that's what i assumed | 18:49 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Canada: +9141 cases (now 641973), +148 deaths (now 16649) since 23 hours ago | 18:50 |
| LjL | pigughs, interesting. i think i've heard of other possible nasal things that can be administered but iirc they were different things, not interferon | 18:52 |
| IndoAnon[m] | LjL de-facto | 18:53 |
| LjL | well from what you quoted it seemed this person was making confusion, with more context it may make more sense, i dunno | 18:53 |
| Brainstorm | New from Medical Xpress: Under-fire European officials step up vaccine push: Authorities in the EU and Britain on Friday ramped up COVID-19 vaccine announcements as they tried to dampen criticism over the slow pace of jabs amid stubbornly high infection figures. → https://is.gd/6xvoSd | 18:56 |
| de-facto | all I wanted to correct is that the vector vaccines of course do produce immunity against SARS-CoV-2 (the main goal) but also do against the viral vector (unwated sideeffect) | 18:56 |
| IndoAnon | For the record https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/301104556/#q301112124 | 19:00 |
| de-facto | that is the reason the Russian Sputnik V vaccine employs two distinct Adenovirus vectors (Ad26 and Ad5, former less common later more common), the Janssen (J&J) vaccine tries to do it in one shot with Ad26 vector, and the AstraZeneca vaccine uses the Chimp Adenovirus from Oxford ChAdOx1 (never was in humans) | 19:01 |
| Jigsy | Heh. | 19:01 |
| Jigsy | Police guidelines now classify walking with a coffee as a "picnic" during the pandemic. | 19:01 |
| IndoAnon | https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/301104556/#q301110751 | 19:03 |
| IndoAnon | Did I somehow misrepresented that person? I pulled a quote, and that's it | 19:03 |
| de-facto | Jigsy, maybe they should start selling masks with drinking straw for them :P | 19:04 |
| CoronaBot | 04/r/coronavirus: The US has recorded over 4,000 COVID-19 deaths in one day for the first time (10008 votes) | https://www.sbs.com.au/news/the-us-has-recorded-over-4-000-covid-19-deaths-in-one-day-for-the-first-time | https://redd.it/kt1m32 | 19:04 |
| CoronaBot | 04/r/covid19: Moderna vaccine becomes third COVID-19 vaccine approved by UK regulator (80 votes) | https://www.gov.uk/government/news/moderna-vaccine-becomes-third-covid-19-vaccine-approved-by-uk-regulator | https://redd.it/kt1gem | 19:04 |
| Jigsy | This is the same police department that warned people about walking their dogs last year. | 19:06 |
| Jigsy | Until the gov't stepped in and went "Uh, no." | 19:06 |
| Jigsy | So I have a feeling a lot of these fines are just going to be dismissed. | 19:06 |
| LjL | IndoAnon, they mean one thing, but they wrote another, and now they insist they wrote what they meant. nothing unusual there | 19:07 |
| IndoAnon | My brain suddenly simulated migraine after reading your text lol | 19:08 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Italy: +17529 cases (now 2.2 million), +620 deaths (now 77911) since 23 hours ago — Cuba: +344 cases (now 13823) since 23 hours ago | 19:09 |
| LjL | let me guess, we had fewer tests than yesterday | 19:09 |
| LjL | oh, actually not | 19:10 |
| LjL | but still based on the trends, we should be ramping testing way back up | 19:11 |
| IndoAnon | I guess test kit manufacturers are having issue with scaling | 19:12 |
| LjL | https://pic.infini.fr/6CCVCzoM/qsG6r080.png | 19:13 |
| LjL | gray is tests, red is cases, black is cases/tests | 19:13 |
| LjL | you see how the testing followed the positivity rate before 2021, but now the positivity rate is going back up yet tests are staying down? | 19:14 |
| IndoAnon | Yeah? your gov totally have to test more people | 19:17 |
| LjL | yeah, even at the maximum of around 260k tests, it's still fewer daily tests than "virtuous" countries | 19:18 |
| IndoAnon | At least 10% ffs | 19:18 |
| LjL | IndoAnon, and consider those are *total tests*, they actually include multiple tests made on the same person | 19:19 |
| LjL | it's worse if you consider per capita | 19:19 |
| LjL | between around 30% and 40% | 19:20 |
| IndoAnon | Most of place here also require 2 negative test-- for those who were infected-- to enter employment or school again | 19:20 |
| LjL | we used to require 2 negative tests to end self-quarantining, but i think one test and no symptoms is enough now | 19:21 |
| Brainstorm | New from Medical Xpress: In vaccine-sceptic France, some medics also hesitate: As the French government seeks to ramp up its lagging COVID-19 vaccination campaign, it faces a tricky challenge: convincing all doctors to back the jabs, even though some share the same hesitations as the general population. → https://is.gd/DARtdU | 19:21 |
| LjL | or even just 14 days being over, i'm not sure | 19:21 |
| IndoAnon | Oh wow, and people are surprised why the number went up again | 19:22 |
| IndoAnon | Deep shit. I can't tell whether it's the work of cult of bugchaser or just plain dumb | 19:22 |
| de-facto | LjL, afaik for Germany they stated that the real incidence could only be seen from ~mid of Jan hence unaffected by Xmess and New Years | 19:32 |
| de-facto | so probably similar in other EU countries id assume | 19:32 |
| de-facto | numbers for Germany are back to ~32k infections and ~1.2k fatalities per day so meh :( | 19:34 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express: World: Sweden moves closer to shutting businesses with new lockdown law → https://is.gd/iSRNHR | 19:46 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Spain: +25456 cases (now 2.1 million), +199 deaths (now 51874) since 23 hours ago | 19:59 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Ireland: +8227 cases (now 135884), +20 deaths (now 2327) since 22 hours ago — Lebanon: +5440 cases (now 210139), +4 deaths (now 1570) since a day ago | 20:11 |
| Brainstorm | New from Medical Xpress: Baby leaves Spain hospital after 70 days fighting COVID: A barely three-month-old baby left a Spanish hospital this week after spending nearly all of his short life fighting COVID-19, including a stint in intensive care, the hospital said. → https://is.gd/oz62kZ | 20:11 |
| SrPx | I've not been following it closely, is it possible for me to buy a vacine already, or is it only being given to select individuals / research / etc? | 20:16 |
| LjL | select | 20:16 |
| LjL | in countries i know of, at least | 20:16 |
| LjL | did you have your COVID test? | 20:17 |
| SrPx | I see | 20:17 |
| SrPx | LjL: nope, I woke up yesterday and made a nice breakfast and it tasted amazing | 20:17 |
| LjL | ah, good | 20:17 |
| SrPx | the food from that day was actually tasteless lol | 20:18 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | LjL: >>i've heard of other possible nasal things that can be administered<< carageen | 20:42 |
| LjL | right | 20:42 |
| bree33 | anyone here have an opinion about "covid toes" ? | 20:46 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | LjL: https://pic.infini.fr/6CCVCzoM/qsG6r080.png is there a phase skew aka 2 to 5 day delay between test count reports and positive case reports for the same test? this would explain the black curve quite a lot | 20:49 |
| LjL-Matrix | DocScrutinizer05: I don't think so because usually on days with few tests, the ratio is higher, while on days with many tests, there are also more positives but the ratio is lower. This is what I would expect if the actual days for the cases and for the test corresponded... | 20:51 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yeah, looking closer the skew I thought I seen is vanishing | 20:52 |
| Brainstorm | New from ProPublica: CDC Shut Down a Lab Involved in Making Faulty Coronavirus Tests: by James Bandler , Patricia Callahan and Sebastian Rotella ProPublica is a nonprofit newsroom that investigates abuses of power. Sign up to receive our biggest stories as soon as they’re published. With no public notice, the Centers for Disease Control and [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/BLCdpP | 21:01 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | lol | 21:03 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | >>ProPublica is a...<< website that has some lessons to learn, about web design | 21:05 |
| bree33 | 99% of websites are trash | 21:07 |
| bree33 | but that's just because the web is trash | 21:07 |
| bree33 | a hacked together mess | 21:07 |
| bree33 | that causes a great deal of unnecessary frustration | 21:09 |
| bree33 | it never should have been uses for applications or dynamic content | 21:09 |
| bree33 | used* | 21:09 |
| bree33 | i understand why that happened historically, but it's a joke that we're stuck with this nonsense today | 21:10 |
| de-facto | .title https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.01.07.425740v1 | 21:39 |
| Brainstorm | de-facto: From www.biorxiv.org: Neutralization of N501Y mutant SARS-CoV-2 by BNT162b2 vaccine-elicited sera | bioRxiv | 21:39 |
| de-facto | .title https://investors.biontech.de/news-releases/news-release-details/vitro-study-shows-pfizer-biontech-covid-19-vaccine-elicits | 21:40 |
| Brainstorm | de-facto: From investors.biontech.de: An In Vitro Study Shows Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine Elicits Antibodies that Neutralize SARS-CoV-2 with a Mutation Associated with Rapid Transmission | BioNTech | 21:40 |
| de-facto | .title https://investors.biontech.de/news-releases/news-release-details/statement-regarding-european-commissions-proposal-purchase | 21:41 |
| Brainstorm | de-facto: From investors.biontech.de: Statement regarding European Commission’s Proposal to Purchase Additional Doses of BioNTech-Pfizer Vaccine | BioNTech | 21:41 |
| de-facto | "While the virus tested in this experiment did not include the full set of spike mutations found on the rapidly spreading strains in the U.K. or South Africa, neutralization of virus with the N501Y mutation by the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine-elicited human sera is consistent with preserved neutralization of a panel of 15 pseudoviruses bearing spikes with other mutations found in circulating SARS-CoV-2 strains." | 21:48 |
| de-facto | "This indicates that the key N501Y mutation, which is found in the emerging U.K and South Africa variants, does not create resistance to the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine induced immune responses." | 21:48 |
| de-facto | ""The ratio of the 50% neutralization GMT of the sera against the Y501 virus to that against the N501 virus was 1.46, indicating no reduction in neutralization activity against the virus bearing the Y501 spike (Supplementary material)."" | 21:48 |
| de-facto | (from the paper) | 21:48 |
| de-facto | "We are in talks with the European Commission (EC) about an amendment to our existing supply agreement for COMIRNATY®, the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine. " | 21:49 |
| de-facto | "The amendment being discussed is for a firm order for an additional 200 million doses of COMIRNATY® to be supplied to the 27 EU member states, with an option for the EC to request an additional 100 million doses. This amendment would add to the 300 million doses that have already been committed to the EU through 2021 under the original supply agreement signed last year. | 21:49 |
| de-facto | " | 21:49 |
| de-facto | "The additional doses would be delivered starting in the second quarter of 2021. This would bring the total number of doses to be delivered to EU member states by the end of 2021 to 500 million doses, with the potential for an additional 100 million if the option is exercised. The substance of the ongoing conversations or any further details from them remain confidential." | 21:50 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Airbus keeps top spot in coronavirus-blighted jet market → https://is.gd/3fsM2E | 21:50 |
| Brainstorm | New from Scientific American: Could New COVID Variants Undermine Vaccines? Labs Scramble to Find Out: Paramedics assess a Covid-19 patient in Lenasia, Johannesburg, on January 4, 2021. Currently suffering a second wave of infections, of which the majority are a new variant of the coronavirus, South Africa is the hardest hit country on the African continent. → https://is.gd/OcHg45 | 22:28 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for South Africa: +21980 cases (now 1.2 million), +616 deaths (now 32425) since 23 hours ago — Malawi: +314 cases (now 7925), +5 deaths (now 208) since a day ago — Chad: +61 cases (now 2419), +1 deaths (now 106) since 23 hours ago — France: +17994 cases (now 2.7 million) since 23 hours ago | 22:34 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Opposition slams Ontario premier for 'game show tactics' in response to escalating COVID-19 crisis | Ontario shattered its COVID-19 record Friday → https://is.gd/su0T5s | 22:40 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Canadian senator co-signed order barring international travel during pandemic — then went to Mexico → https://is.gd/4LpnS7 | 23:05 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | de-facto: the miracle of vanishing vax doses. Traunstein officials tell: >>first we were announced 2000 doses and we thought "that gets tough", then they announced we'll get 1000 which was fine, we could do this within 4 days. Then they told us "you get 500" and we sent out invitations. Then we got 100 and had to uninvite people<< WTF?! | 23:13 |
| de-facto | hmm thats weird indeed, 20-fold less than planed | 23:16 |
| de-facto | btw afaik federal states should have gotten an additional 700k doses to the 1.3M they got last year | 23:16 |
| de-facto | half of them being put into storage it would mean enough to give ~1M ppl the first dose? | 23:17 |
| de-facto | yet only 476959 have been given nation wide | 23:19 |
| de-facto | Vaccinations in Germany per 100k people: de: 573.5; bw: 442.35; by: 677.47; be: 719.61; bb: 455.25; hb: 661.33; hh: 458.57; he: 731.64; mv: 1496.14; ni: 402.45; nw: 505.94; rp: 507.88; sl: 745.58; sn: 382.93; st: 883.87; sh: 823.17; th: 374.71 | 23:21 |
| de-facto | hence 1k/100k being equivalent to 1% | 23:22 |
| de-facto | worldwide according to https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations | 23:24 |
| de-facto | Israel: 19.55; United Arab Emirates: 9.52; Bahrain: 4.25; Northern Ireland: 2.15; Scotland: 2.08; England: 1.94; United Kingdom: 1.91; United States: 1.79; Denmark: 1.76; Wales: 1.57; Iceland: 1.43; Slovenia: 0.79; Italy: 0.75; | 23:24 |
| de-facto | Portugal: 0.69; Canada: 0.62; Croatia: 0.61; Estonia: 0.60; Spain: 0.59; Germany: 0.57; Russia: 0.55; Poland: 0.50; Romania: 0.48; Cyprus: 0.45; Hungary: 0.44; Sweden: 0.40; Slovakia: 0.36; Greece: 0.33; Norway: 0.32; Malta: 0.32; | 23:24 |
| de-facto | China: 0.31; Ireland: 0.31; Oman: 0.29; Saudi Arabia: 0.29; Latvia: 0.28; World: 0.23; Finland: 0.20; Costa Rica: 0.19; Luxembourg: 0.19; Czechia: 0.19; Bulgaria: 0.16; France: 0.12; Argentina: 0.09; Netherlands: 0.09; Lithuania: 0.08; Austria: 0.07; Chile: 0.06; Kuwait: 0.06; Mexico: 0.05; Belgium: 0.01 | 23:24 |
| de-facto | vaccinations per 100 people, hence percent | 23:25 |
| Arsanerit | vaccinations or provided vaccine doses? | 23:27 |
| Arsanerit | or people vaccinated? | 23:27 |
| de-facto | id guess provided vaccine doses since second dose would have to wait for 3 weeks | 23:30 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Biggest Czech crematorium overwhelmed by pandemic deaths → https://is.gd/qp5QEp | 23:41 |
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