| Brainstorm | Updates for Saint Lucia: +214 cases (now 2027), +1 deaths (now 19) since 2 days ago — Botswana: +932 cases (now 24435), +16 deaths (now 179) since 3 days ago | 00:15 |
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| pwr22 | Jigsy: thumbs? | 00:34 |
| Jigsy | No. | 00:38 |
| Jigsy | I woke up with a red ring around the knuckle of my thumb. | 00:38 |
| Jigsy | No idea why. | 00:38 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Lancet (Online): [Comment] Value from health data: European opportunity to catalyse progress in digital health: Innovations in digital health are expected to transform health care, health research, and public health in the years ahead. WHO's digital health strategy emphasises the potential for digital health to transform global health and [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/mV8pu8 | 00:38 |
| Jigsy | I'm hoping it's not Ringworm. | 00:38 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Mayotte: +1601 cases (now 11147), +2 deaths (now 65) since 4 days ago | 00:40 |
| pwr22 | 😧 | 00:44 |
| Jigsy | Doesn't itch, but it does hurt. | 00:47 |
| pwr22 | Hope it ends up ok | 00:50 |
| de-facto | i always have a bottle of povidone-iodine around, anytime i encounter something that might possibly be a local infection or such i just put that iodine on it, maybe it helps, surely it does not hurt if not applied to too large areas of the skin (probably some of the iodine gets absorbed) | 00:57 |
| de-facto | i guess its not time for Lyme borreliosis like in the summer | 01:00 |
| Jigsy | I only got it whilst I was asleep today. | 01:00 |
| Jigsy | So, no idea what the hell happened in those six hours. | 01:00 |
| de-facto | any strings from a pillow or such? | 01:02 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Iran cleric: People who are vaccinated for COVID have ‘become homosexuals’ → https://is.gd/SikbEv | 01:03 |
| Jigsy | Not that I know of. | 01:04 |
| de-facto | hmm i take the back, borreliosis can also happen in the winter | 01:06 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | >> Researchers engineer a tiny antibody capable of neutralizing the coronavirus → https://is.gd/M1PKen [8 Feb 2021 22:00:04] <semitones> Lil ^ that is a cool article<< YEP! | 01:08 |
| de-facto | but i still think thats unlikely maybe just sore from being pressed when sleeping on it with the head? pillow got knobs? | 01:11 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | borreliosis wouldn't happen at a knuckle, completely wrong place for a bite of tick | 01:11 |
| de-facto | i had one at the food knuckle, had to take doxycycline for 10 days | 01:12 |
| de-facto | that was in the summer though many years ago | 01:12 |
| de-facto | *foot | 01:12 |
| de-facto | dangit | 01:12 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | duh, weird tick. Don't they love dark damp locations with soft skin? | 01:13 |
| de-facto | idk maybe | 01:14 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | anyway I never heard a tick biting a finger knuckle | 01:15 |
| Jigsy | I took a picture... | 01:16 |
| Jigsy | https://x0.at/IOw.jpg | 01:16 |
| de-facto | hmm weird, nothing in the center? | 01:19 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ask your PD | 01:19 |
| de-facto | yeah | 01:19 |
| Jigsy | PD? | 01:19 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | doctor | 01:19 |
| Jigsy | Ah. | 01:19 |
| Jigsy | Not much point at this juncture. | 01:20 |
| Jigsy | Unless it's COVID-19 or life threatening, everything has more or less taken a backseat. | 01:20 |
| * Jigsy lives around a few doctors. | 01:20 | |
| Jigsy | Also live around a few police officers too, heh. | 01:20 |
| de-facto | here in Germany the normal house MDs (whatever they are called in English) are just continuing their normal consultations | 01:21 |
| ryouma | repairman 7m away from here, 2 windows open, he will be wearing "under armour" mask | 01:21 |
| ryouma | to fix electric dryer | 01:23 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Jigsy: my completely uneducated guess would be "unspecific joint inflammation. Those happen sometimes" - like my doc told me about my left shoulder when a few years ago I suddenly couldn't lift my left arm anymore | 01:24 |
| de-facto | idk, id put iodine on it and wait, if it does not get better ask your MD | 01:25 |
| Atque | de-facto: They're called "general practitioners" in the UK and many Commonwealth countries. In America, they're called physicians, family doctors or something. America is weird though so yea | 01:25 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | GP | 01:25 |
| de-facto | ah thanks, i did not know how to call them | 01:26 |
| ryouma | idk what the different specialties are in the usa actually. there are also internists. and functional medicine. | 01:26 |
| ryouma | pediatricians for children | 01:26 |
| ryouma | physician refers to all | 01:27 |
| ryouma | (dunno about coroners though) | 01:27 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I just looked it up in my dictionary. thumbs-up for ding :-) | 01:27 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Ding: Dictionary Lookup Version 1.8.1 Copyright (c) 1999 - 2016 Frank Richter | 01:28 |
| ryouma | what else can i do to prepare or post-mortem the repairman visit? | 01:28 |
| ryouma | there is also osteopathy = DO which is supposedly equal in privileges or so. oral surgeons are not medical doctors though. | 01:29 |
| de-facto | air exchange, while door knobs with alc | 01:29 |
| de-facto | if you are extremely scared wear an FFP2 the time he is present till after he is gone and air exchanged | 01:30 |
| de-facto | *wipe door knobs with alcohol | 01:30 |
| * de-facto cant spell anymore, needs sleep | 01:30 | |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ryouma: wear FFP3 mask, ask repair man to wear mask. Open all windows | 01:36 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Netherlands: +3092 cases (now 1.0 million), +36 deaths (now 14472) since 22 hours ago | 01:36 |
| ryouma | too late to open door he closed it and i don't want anybody getting hta tclose | 01:36 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ryouma: https://www.microcovid.org | 01:37 |
| ryouma | he is wearing https://www.amazon.com/Under-Armour-Sports-Silver-X-Large/dp/B08FF1PQXD/ref=sr_1_1 | 01:37 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I guess it's a <50 microcovid situation ;-) | 01:38 |
| ryouma | he says he has an immunocompromised wife. and he said he wanted us to wear masks but trust8ing us that we were self isolating. holy fuck he is fast. he came and is now gone and has diagnosed it. | 01:38 |
| ryouma | is htat good? | 01:39 |
| ryouma | he comes back tomorrow with the belt | 01:39 |
| ryouma | he was quite right about being fast. i am impressed. but the dryer hose is super finicky. will be sure to tell him that. | 01:39 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Easter Island begins vaccinating residents against Covid-19 → https://is.gd/w48d0M | 01:39 |
| ryouma | (the guy was here for like 2 minutes. idk whether that is even poissible to diagnose anything we didn't already try and tell hij thee resuylts of) | 01:42 |
| ryouma | what was that 15m of exposure thing again? | 01:45 |
| KREYREEN | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_V4HaeKMeoE | 01:50 |
| KREYREEN | thoughs? | 01:50 |
| KREYREEN | apparently use of interfieron increases the survivability of covid-19 | 01:51 |
| KREYREEN | https://youtu.be/_V4HaeKMeoE?list=WL&t=75 | 01:51 |
| KREYREEN | and the use of colchicine | 01:52 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | WAAAH | 01:52 |
| KREYREEN | DocScrutinizer05, ikr O.o | 01:52 |
| * KREYREEN is trying to find the research paper from Jordan Feld | 01:54 | |
| ryouma | the original antimalarial? | 01:54 |
| KREYREEN | o.o | 01:54 |
| ryouma | is it similar to hydroxychloroquine etc.? | 01:54 |
| KREYREEN | ryouma, no this seems to be backed up by science published by a MD, MPH | 01:55 |
| KREYREEN | https://www.uhnresearch.ca/researcher/jordan-feld | 01:55 |
| ryouma | complex drug | 01:57 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I seem to recall back in the 1970 when weed farming went "scientific", some nerds experimented with causing mutations in weed seeds by colchicine. The advice was literally "WARNING! do not touch the substance or seed with plain skin, wear gloves, wash your ahnds!" | 01:59 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colchicine#Toxicity | 02:00 |
| KREYREEN | https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33242501/ apparently this is the research? | 02:01 |
| KREYREEN | that's like the only remotely close thing to what was said | 02:02 |
| Brainstorm | New from NPR: White House COVID-19 Adviser Andy Slavitt Says There Are No Vaccine 'Silver Bullets': Slavitt tells NPR that getting more vaccines out quicker will involve lots of "small steps." He says people will have to be "more patient than they want to be," but supplies are increasing. → https://is.gd/Pm9G80 | 02:02 |
| KREYREEN | maybe they get confused over Hepatitis C = SARS-CoV-2 ? | 02:02 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | >>With overdoses, colchicine becomes toxic as an extension of its cellular mechanism of action via binding to tubulin.[32] Cells so affected undergo impaired protein assembly with reduced endocytosis, exocytosis, cellular motility, and interrupted function of heart cells, culminating in multi-organ failure<< | 02:02 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | what could possibly go wrong? :-o | 02:03 |
| KREYREEN | DocScrutinizer05, from what i understand they don't recommend colchicine, but seems to believe that it's composition it might lead to a treatment? | 02:04 |
| KREYREEN | also apparently use of haparin | 02:04 |
| KREYREEN | https://youtu.be/_V4HaeKMeoE?list=WL&t=98 | 02:04 |
| KREYREEN | that to me makes sense though assuming that post-covid patients seems to have blood cloths in their system? | 02:05 |
| KREYREEN | aldo afaik those "blood cloths" are just encased virus particles so blood thinner to me would make the whole thing worse? | 02:05 |
| KREYREEN | assuming that those virus particles are still live in that encased environment which seems to be the case? | 02:06 |
| ryouma | clot | 02:14 |
| KREYREEN | ah is it? x.x | 02:14 |
| de-facto | Jigsy, to me that looks like the histamine reaction of an insect bite (mosquito or such, hence weird its not itchy), it being not a red disk but a ring because the skin tightens over the knuckle, if it was mine it put iodine on it and maybe cool it a bit to prevent swelling. i never was a fan of antihistamine, but its probably what they would sell here in a pharmacy when asking about mitigation | 02:14 |
| de-facto | but i am a complete noob, not a MD or physician or any medical background, only my thoughts if it was my knuckle | 02:15 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | KREYREEN: re Heparin, there was a study linked by Brainstorm a few days ago that some regimens of administering Hep may benefit patients while others may even be detrimental | 02:15 |
| ryouma | to what degree is vascular obstruction part of hte worst parts of the disease? | 02:16 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and the knowledge about that changef a lot, almost to the opposite of what it been initially | 02:16 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | LjL commented >>it's not as simple as "give blood thinner"<< | 02:17 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://reisenweber.net/irclogs/freenode/__covid-19/__covid-19.2021-01-28.log.html#t2021-01-28T20:20:36 | 02:19 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for S. Sudan: +254 cases (now 4609) since 3 days ago | 02:19 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://reisenweber.net/irclogs/freenode/__covid-19/__covid-19.2021-02-02.log.html#t2021-02-02T15:09:31 | 02:19 |
| KREYREEN | DocScrutinizer05, i see O.o | 02:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | >>It’s important to note that these findings are in contrast to results announced last month...<< | 02:20 |
| ryouma | have doctors gotten better? | 02:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | >><ryouma> to what degree is vascular obstruction part << seems it's one of the key mechanisms causing multi organ failure in consequence | 02:25 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | KREYREEN: for sure it's not as simple as >>the virus is the "crystallization kernel" in each blood clot<< | 02:26 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | blood cloting probably is a commonly seen lateral effect of inflammations, as it's "meant" by evolution and your boody to "fix" injuries which first trigger a "sort of inflammation" which in turn causes fibrino-dunnowhat etc all part of immune system to stop bleeding | 02:29 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | s.boody.body. | 02:30 |
| KREYREEN | DocScrutinizer05, so you think that SARS-CoV-2 is causing a micro internal bleedings? | 02:30 |
| KREYREEN | i guess that would make sense assuming the presence on a scar tissue in covid/post-covid patients ? | 02:31 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | it's causing injuries of blood vessels aiui, yes | 02:31 |
| KREYREEN | and from these the blood clot forms and are redistributed through the body? Or how they end up in patient's blood stream? | 02:32 |
| KREYREEN | or are those blood cloths just masses or tissue encased in blood? | 02:33 |
| KREYREEN | well i guess micro-masses | 02:33 |
| KREYREEN | would make sense to me at least to why they aren't being dissolved | 02:33 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I guess they actually get loose from where they form and are moving along with the blood until they clog somewhere else | 02:33 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | or they are just staying where they form and it's actually the blood vessel "injuries" aka inflammation that occurs almost everywhere then | 02:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I can't tell how exactly blood clots are composed. I *assume* fibrino-blasts(?) blood cells are involved | 02:36 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fibroblast | 02:38 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fibroblast#Inflammation | 02:42 |
| ubLIX[m] | KREYREEEN: blood vessels are lined with ACE2 receptors, which SARS2 attacks, contributing to damage of vessel walls; ACE2 controls (down regulates) inflammation, and inflammation also damages (is damage of) cells, so taking out ACE2 in this way is a compounding phenomenon; damaging blood vessel walls releases clotting factors, systemically once circulated in the bloodstream | 02:48 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: China's CanSino single shot vaccine shows 65.7 percent efficacy → https://is.gd/JUcHsV | 02:52 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ubLIX[m] to the rescue :-) Many thanks for helping me out, I was already swimming | 02:53 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for United Kingdom: +10592 cases (now 4.0 million), +250 deaths (now 112823) since 19 hours ago | 03:21 |
| Brainstorm | New from Derek Lowe: @ChemIsTry2351: RT by @Dereklowe: Are other labs having trouble finding PCR plates or other frequently used lab supplies? We talk about the pandemic affecting work-life balance and causing people to work odd hours but I'm curious about how it's affected lab supplies#chemtwitter @Chemjobber → https://is.gd/SkBbOx | 03:41 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express: World: China’s 2020 new births fall 15% as coronavirus weighs → https://is.gd/NzvCtJ | 04:06 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express: World: South Africa seeks new vaccine plan after halting AstraZeneca → https://is.gd/t72diV | 04:19 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for New Zealand: +2 cases (now 2322) since 2 days ago | 04:48 |
| ryouma | WITHOUT a respirator, how long until it is safe to enter a room that a contagious person has been in? | 05:19 |
| Brainstorm | New from Virology.ws: Trial By Error: New Biopsychosocial Paper on Long-Covid and Somatic Symptom Disorder: By David Tuller, DrPH Biopsychosocial Campaigners Target Long-Covid New papers from the biopsychosocial campaigners often provide opportunities to highlight unwarranted assertions, misleading use of data, and—in particular–associations [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/9dZfz0 | 05:20 |
| * DocScrutinizer05 is probably stupid, doesn't understand how "'low' incidences (<50/100k7d)" automatically may mean "lockdown finished" | 05:28 | |
| DocScrutinizer05 | isn't it like we want to KEEP IT at low incidences, and nobody publicly explained yet how incidences would stay at 48/100k7d if at reaching this number we say "hooray now let's start 'living' again". I think incidences would go up again immediately. To keep them low we need to assume we have to reach a state of health care containment scouts (that's what German T&C is called) sitting there bored with tracking only a 5/100k7d and then | 05:33 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | when we end lockdown they will get busy and have to work hard to keep incidences below 50/100k7d which happens to be the threshold defined as their capacity limit? | 05:33 |
| ryouma | i am finding nothing online that says how long a room is unsafe | 06:05 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Belgium: +873 cases (now 726483), +34 deaths (now 21423) since 22 hours ago | 06:09 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ryouma: with open windows max 30 min | 06:09 |
| ryouma | without respirator? | 06:14 |
| ryouma | this is an open plan with a hallway with an indent half-room for dryer. there are no windows there, but a window was open in the room the hallway is conected to.\ | 06:14 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | re >>[8 Feb 2021 02:17:39] <DocScrutinizer05> a random sidenote about non-representative observation: I see _a_lot_ more FFP2 masks lately, like compared to 3 weeks ago. Not only in shops but even walkers on pavement, bicycle drivers etc. It might look like Rt going down slightly since 7 days<< today's "new cases" is 45% less than one week ago. | 06:15 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ryouma: for reference (if applicable) consider how long you would ventilate the room to make any cigarette smell vanish | 06:18 |
| ryouma | havent' been able to smell since 1999 but from memory, that could be weeks | 06:19 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ohgosh | 06:19 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | >>today's "new cases" is 45% less... << in Germany. Sorry I forgot to mention | 06:27 |
| Brainstorm | New preprint: SARS-CoV-2 Transmission Risk from sports Equipment (STRIKE) by Thomas Edwards et al, made available as preprint on 2021-02-08 at https://medrxiv.org/cgi/content/short/2021.02.04.21251127 [... want %more?] | 06:58 |
| Brainstorm | New from Reddit (test): CoronaVirus_2019_nCoV: Buttigieg to quarantine after security agent gets COVID-19 → https://is.gd/12BQzE | 07:48 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express: World: Japan minister: EU approved first shipment of Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine to Japan → https://is.gd/jtlWx4 | 08:00 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for United Kingdom: +5759 cases (now 4.0 million), +108 deaths (now 112906) since 14 hours ago — France: +9253 cases (now 3.4 million), +331 deaths (now 79497) since 11 hours ago — Lombardy, Italy: +895 cases (now 550380), +51 deaths (now 27504) since a day ago — Netherlands: +3218 cases (now 1.0 million), +31 deaths (now 14485) since 15 hours ago | 08:06 |
| CoronaBot | /r/coronavirus: Moderna's COVID-19 vaccine effective against emerging variants (10115 votes) | https://www.news-medical.net/news/20210208/Modernas-COVID-9-vaccine-effective-against-emerging-variants.aspx | https://redd.it/lfqi4t | 08:49 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Daily Discussion Thread | February 09, 2021: The World Health Organization maintains up-to-date and global information. Please refer to our Wiki for additional information. You can find answers to frequently asked questions about Covid-19 and vaccines in our FAQ . → https://is.gd/sV2aHo | 09:03 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Israel is shirking its moral and legal responsibility by not vaccinating Palestinians → https://is.gd/hrKcKN | 09:51 |
| Brainstorm | New from StatNews: Hospitals’ Covid-19 heroics have them poised for power in the new Washington: For frontline health care workers at hospitals, the Covid-19 pandemic has been a punishing slog. But for their lobbyists in Washington, the picture couldn’t be rosier. → https://is.gd/csliX3 | 10:40 |
| Brainstorm | New from StatNews: Health: A Q&A with WHO’s emergencies chief on Covid-19, why he’s hopeful, and when normalcy might return → https://is.gd/J4tyFf | 10:52 |
| Brainstorm | New from BBC Health: (news): Covid: Which areas are being mass tested for the South Africa variant? → https://is.gd/fYDauG | 11:04 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: COVID-19: Novel coronavirus 'could have been circulating outside Wuhan before first reported cases' → https://is.gd/CNT6VR | 11:41 |
| Brainstorm | New from EMA: What's new: Orphan: Orphan designation: human anti-promyostatin monoclonal antibody (apitegromab), Treatment of spinal muscular atrophy, 14/12/2018, Positive → https://is.gd/pJvQZy | 12:05 |
| Brainstorm | New from Medical Xpress: WHO mission says lab leak virus theory 'extremely unlikely': Experts from the WHO on Tuesday all but eliminated a controversial theory that COVID-19 came from a laboratory in the Chinese city of Wuhan. → https://is.gd/6qX7or | 12:18 |
| -RSSBot[LjLmatrix- Feed: Premio Giacomo Matteotti, il bando della XVII edizione ( http://www.governo.it/it/articolo/premio-giacomo-matteotti-il-bando-della-xvii-edizione/16173 ) | 12:25 | |
| Brainstorm | New from BMJ: Helen Salisbury: Everyone wants to feel useful: It’s been a hard year. As we’re bombarded with daily images of desperately ill patients and exhausted intensive care staff, it’s not surprising that we’re fearful and anxious. The pandemic has left... → https://is.gd/41nNM3 | 12:40 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: WHO says coronavirus unlikely to have leaked from China lab → https://is.gd/Y5kq7t | 12:53 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Malta: +250 cases (now 19063) since 23 hours ago | 13:11 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: WHO expert in Wuhan says lab leak 'very unlikely' as COVID source → https://is.gd/1wvFbl | 13:18 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express: World: Tanzania’s COVID-19 denial risks pulling Africa back → https://is.gd/iRhKrj | 13:30 |
| Brainstorm | New from Scientific American: Vaccines Aren't the Only Thing We Need to Safely Reopen: Testing, tracing and isolation are just as important as ever -- Read more on ScientificAmerican.com → https://is.gd/3rA3ME | 14:07 |
| -RSSBot[LjLmatrix- Feed: Comunicato stampa del Consiglio dei Ministri n. 96 ( http://www.governo.it/it/articolo/comunicato-stampa-del-consiglio-dei-ministri-n-96/16174 ) | 14:10 | |
| DocScrutinizer05 | >> The findings showed that antibodies were effective at neutralizing all variants, whether they were generated following natural infection or vaccination. The team observed no significant reduction in levels of neutralizing antibodies against any of the variants.<< https://www.news-medical.net/news/20210208/Modernas-COVID-9-vaccine-effective-against-emerging-variants.aspx | 14:51 |
| Brainstorm | New from Derek Lowe: @Dereklowe: In case you missed it - from late yesterday on the blog, a long post about how to make an adenovirus vector vaccine:https://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archives/2021/02/08/how-you-make-an-adenovirus-vaccine → https://is.gd/x7PZSt | 14:54 |
| Brainstorm | New from NIH Director's blog: Mapping Which Coronavirus Variants Will Resist Antibody Treatments: You may have heard about the new variants of SARS-CoV-2, the coronavirus that causes COVID-19, found in other parts of the world and which now have been detected in the United States. These variants, particularly one called B.1.351 that was first [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/58iPK2 | 15:07 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Switzerland: +1363 cases (now 536516), +57 deaths (now 9670) since 23 hours ago | 15:09 |
| de-facto | Vaccine manufacturing: "Fast, Cheap, Good: Pick Any Two" <-- id go with Fast and Good :) | 15:27 |
| de-facto | btw very interesting article from Derek Lowe https://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archives/2021/02/08/how-you-make-an-adenovirus-vaccine | 15:38 |
| Brainstorm | New from StatNews: Pharma: STAT+: Pharmalittle: House to hold hearing on Covid-19 vaccine production; tug-of-war rages over who will be the next FDA commissioner → https://is.gd/saFNjR | 15:43 |
| Arsanerit | de-facto: isn't "pick one" more realistic? | 15:56 |
| de-facto | probably | 16:06 |
| Arsanerit | also "practical in use" is an aspect (single dose at room temperature vs. two doses at -80°C) | 16:08 |
| genera | and eco friendly. no needles. | 16:10 |
| Brainstorm | New from Medical Xpress: Blueprint for understanding the pandemic: Scientific and public health experts have been raising the alarm for decades, imploring public officials to prepare for the inevitability of a viral pandemic. Infectious epidemics seemingly as benign as "the flu" and as deadly as the Ebola virus provided ample warning, yet government [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/LAPVhw | 16:17 |
| zutt | %cases sweden | 16:18 |
| Brainstorm | zutt: In Sweden, there have been 596174 confirmed cases (5.8% of the population) and 12188 deaths (2.0% of cases) as of an hour ago. 5.5 million tests were performed (10.8% positive). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=Sweden for time series data. | 16:18 |
| zutt | %casee finland | 16:18 |
| zutt | .. | 16:18 |
| zutt | %cases finland | 16:18 |
| Brainstorm | zutt: In Finland, there have been 48407 confirmed cases (0.9% of the population) and 703 deaths (1.5% of cases) as of 2 hours ago. 3.0 million tests were performed (1.6% positive). Fatality can be broadly expected to lie between 0.8% (assuming prevalence as in tests) and less than 2.2% (considering only deaths and recoveries). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=Finland for time series data. | 16:18 |
| Brainstorm | New from Medical Xpress: New recommendations on social distancing after vaccination are coming: Fauci: New guidance on what social distancing measures are best for people who are fully vaccinated is on the way, Dr. Anthony Fauci said Monday. → https://is.gd/cOETTc | 16:51 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Kuwait: +1002 cases (now 172996), +6 deaths (now 975) since a day ago — Germany: +4697 cases (now 2.3 million), +429 deaths (now 62557) since 22 hours ago | 16:55 |
| mobidrop | do the vaccinated people only have to wear 2 masks and the unvaccinated have to wear 5 masks? | 16:59 |
| Brainstorm | New from ClinicalTrials.gov: (news): Pilot Study of Antithrombin as Prophylaxis of Acute Respiratory Distress Syndrome in Patients With COVID-19 → https://is.gd/M4hmBT | 17:04 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Canada: +3629 cases (now 810100), +68 deaths (now 20844) since 23 hours ago — Netherlands: +65 deaths (now 14522) since 23 hours ago | 17:13 |
| Arsanerit | genera: are there vaccines without needles? | 17:20 |
| Jigsy | %cases UK | 17:46 |
| Brainstorm | Jigsy: In United Kingdom, there have been 4.0 million confirmed cases (6.0% of the population) and 112906 deaths (2.8% of cases) as of 9 hours ago. 78.2 million tests were performed (5.1% positive). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=United%20Kingdom for time series data. | 17:46 |
| Jigsy | Polio comes to mind. | 17:47 |
| Jigsy | Don't they administer it on a lump of sugar? | 17:47 |
| Jigsy | Or at least to kids? | 17:47 |
| de-facto | what do you mean? | 18:01 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for United Kingdom: +5742 cases (now 4.0 million), +398 deaths (now 113221) since 14 hours ago | 18:09 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: WHO: 'Very Unlikely' Coronavirus Leaked From Lab, More Study Needed To Trace Source → https://is.gd/ysAKxi | 18:21 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | moin! Germany: Sandra Ciesek (virologist, Coronavirus Update podcast aka "Drosten podcast") today: >>Baden-Wuerttemberg this week 12% B.1.1.7<< | 18:22 |
| CoronaBot | /r/covid19: Semen impairment and occurrence of SARS-CoV-2 virus in semen after recovery from COVID-19 (86 votes) | https://academic.oup.com/humrep/advance-article/doi/10.1093/humrep/deab026/6125160 | https://redd.it/lg3jbb | 18:22 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Jamaica: +403 cases (now 17701), +1 deaths (now 359) since 23 hours ago — Switzerland: +30 deaths (now 9681) since 19 hours ago | 18:34 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: No scientific evidence to prove 5G mutates coronavirus, scientists reiterate → https://is.gd/BqOrcY | 18:44 |
| Brainstorm | New from Bloom Lab: @jbloom_lab: NIH Director's blog post nicely summarizes our study prospectively mapping which #SARSCoV2 mutations escape lead clinical antibodies. Study led by @tylernstarr w/ @AllieGreaney, Amin Addetia, Will Hannon, @AdamDingens, @Dr_MChoudhary, @DrJLi: → https://is.gd/EJehIK | 18:57 |
| de-facto | DocScrutinizer05, yikes | 19:14 |
| de-facto | does she provide sources? | 19:18 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | nope, except "BW does massive sequencing" | 19:19 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | unrelated: 2 leerdenker aeh querdenker domos worked as superspreader events and caused 21000 infections [Humboldt University study] | 19:21 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | demos* | 19:21 |
| Brainstorm | New from Medical Xpress: SARS-CoV-2 antibodies detected six months after infection: (HealthDay)—For many individuals, severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) antispike antibodies remain for at least six months after infection, according to a report published by the U.K. Biobank. → https://is.gd/fvmQLE | 19:21 |
| de-facto | its always hard to tell how biased (or targeted) the sequencing is: once they find one VOC they probably will trace more than if it only turns out to be "SARS-CoV-2 classic" | 19:21 |
| de-facto | yeah those Querdenker are criminals imho | 19:22 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I think - while Ciesek is often a tad 'boring' and fuzzy in her statements and explanations - she will have a pretty good idea about bias and take account for it | 19:23 |
| de-facto | DocScrutinizer05, is it this here? https://www.zew.de/publikationen/spreading-the-disease-protest-in-times-of-pandemics | 19:27 |
| de-facto | DocScrutinizer05, i dont think bias can be easily estimated | 19:27 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Bolsonaro is Pushing Quack COVID Cures Instead of the Vaccine → https://is.gd/25xzQV | 19:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | .tr <de >>eine studie der Humboldt Uni und des Zentrums fuer Europaeische Wirtschaftsstudien laesst aufhorchen...<< https://www.zdf.de/live-tv 19:15:50 https://i.imgur.com/VbSfObm.png | 19:35 |
| Brainstorm | DocScrutinizer05, German to eine: | 19:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yes ZEW sounds like a fitting source | 19:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | .tr <de eine studie der Humboldt Uni und des Zentrums fuer Europaeische Wirtschaftsstudien laesst aufhorchen...<< https://www.zdf.de/live-tv 19:15:50 https://i.imgur.com/VbSfObm.png | 19:35 |
| Brainstorm | DocScrutinizer05, German to English: A study by the Humboldt University and the Center for European Economic Studies makes you sit up and take notice ... << https://www.zdf.de/live-tv 19:15:50 https://i.imgur.com/VbSfObm.png (MyMemory, Google) [... want %more?] | 19:35 |
| de-facto | i hope society will not tolerate the presence of Querdenker anymore, words cant describe how much their existence infuriates me | 19:36 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Albania: +1239 cases (now 87528), +16 deaths (now 1488) since 23 hours ago — Italy: +10612 cases (now 2.7 million), +422 deaths (now 92002) since 23 hours ago | 19:36 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | SchwerDenker | 19:37 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | translates like "thinking impaired person" | 19:38 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | >> Democrats are usually more willing to reduce mobility and voluntarily engage in social distancing; Republicans are less likely to do so [...] Barbieri and Bonini (2020) and Mellacher (2021) show evidence that individual mobility and COVID-19 related deaths are higher in areas where populist parties enjoy larger vote shares. Our study documents this relationship for Germany, the largest economy and democracy in Europe and a country | 19:55 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | where the biggest populist party systematically downplays the threat of COVID-19. << | 19:55 |
| Brainstorm | New from Medical Xpress: Spain tops three million virus cases: The total number of confirmed coronavirus cases in Spain, one of Europe's hardest-hit nations, has topped three million since the start of the pandemic, the health ministry said Tuesday. → https://is.gd/4ot5QD | 19:57 |
| Brainstorm | New from Shane Crotty: @ljiresearch: RT by @profshanecrotty: New from @AntonyJKing: What do T cell studies from @SetteLab and others say about our ability to fight #SARSCoV2 variants? https://bit.ly/3aVacoa @TheScientistLLC #COVID19 #coronavirus #immunity #vaccines #immunology → https://is.gd/F5hUCK | 20:10 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | .tell ljl 21k infections due to 2 demonstrations in Germany https://www.zew.de/publikationen/spreading-the-disease-protest-in-times-of-pandemics | 20:22 |
| Brainstorm | DocScrutinizer05, I'll pass LjL your message when they are around. | 20:22 |
| Brainstorm | New from Medical Xpress: Was it T-cells or prayer? 116-year-old nun survives COVID-19: Whether it was the power of her prayers or her T-cells that did it, 116-year-old French nun Lucile Randon has survived COVID-19. → https://is.gd/JDbcbi | 20:22 |
| Brainstorm | New from StatNews: STAT+: Atul Gawande says Haven experience is helping shape his Covid-19 response work: The storied health tech startup Haven may have shuttered, but its famous former CEO, Atul Gawande, says the experience is still informing his current efforts to tackle Covid-19. → https://is.gd/svbUe0 | 20:35 |
| Brainstorm | New from Shane Crotty: @profshanecrotty: R to @profshanecrotty: 1) The protective efficacy of a COVID vaccine may last for one year before needing a booster immunization (and may differ between vaccines). 2) The SARS2 virus may mutate enough to require an updated vaccine to fully protect against a particular variant. → https://is.gd/g6O4aH | 20:48 |
| Arsanerit | I wonder how much the virus spreads in other protests, with masks, with or without distancing. | 21:06 |
| de-facto | good question | 21:22 |
| de-facto | Querdenkers were actively denying to wear masks or distance though | 21:23 |
| de-facto | many infections probably also occur on the traveling, in the bus and train etc | 21:24 |
| Brainstorm | New from Emma Hodcroft: @firefoxx66: “It might seem like it burst onto the public stage. But in the scientific community, this discussion about, ‘How do we talk about it? What nomenclature do we use?’ has been brewing for a while,” says Emma HodcroftMore #SARSCoV2 nomenclature [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/3IgnqL | 21:24 |
| LjL | well i see with the new nitter, more tweets get posted | 21:34 |
| LjL | which is good news on an otherwise pretty meh day | 21:34 |
| Brainstorm | New from Baric Lab: @Baric_Lab: Excited to share our latest #COVID19 study with the Garcia lab. @LisaGralinski and co-authors show that mice with human lung organoid implants can be infected by #SARSCoV2 and block virus replication w oral delivery of EIDD-2801. @UNC_SOM @UNCpublichealth [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/6inHaC | 21:49 |
| de-facto | oh the fatal mutation cascade? | 22:10 |
| pigzuu | hope it is ok if post this: https://twitter.com/NatCounterPunch/status/1359182929935486980?s=20 | 22:11 |
| pigzuu | 100 million doses of Sovereign II are being prepared, enough to immunize all 11 million Cubans, beginning in March or April. The 70 million remaining doses will go to Vietnam, Iran, Pakistan, India, Venezuela, Bolivia, and Nicaragua | 22:13 |
| de-facto | haha the reply to it, i wonder if the name refers to a mental state :P | 22:14 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Spain: +16402 cases (now 3.0 million), +766 deaths (now 63061) since a day ago — France: +12012 cases (now 3.4 million), +636 deaths (now 79955) since 23 hours ago — Germany: +5469 cases (now 2.3 million), +558 deaths (now 62745) since 23 hours ago — United Kingdom: +10140 cases (now 4.0 million), +1027 deaths (now 113850) since 18 hours ago | 22:18 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Switzerland: +17 deaths (now 9687) since 8 hours ago | 23:26 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | gosh, that counterpunch is pathetic | 23:28 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | even more so are the twitter replies | 23:29 |
| Brainstorm | New from StatNews: STAT+: House Democrats slip drug-pricing proposal into Covid-19 relief bill: SCOOP: House Democrats are planning to slip a drug-pricing policy insulin makers despise into their Covid-19 stimulus package. → https://is.gd/9vD9yt | 23:45 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | TV empfehlung: ARD jetzt - Schroeder | 23:45 |
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