libera/##covid-19/ Friday, 2021-02-12

BrainstormUpdates for Switzerland: +13 deaths (now 9729) since 8 hours ago00:13
BrainstormNew from The Atlantic: The Pandemic’s Deadly Winter Surge Is Rapidly Easing: Editor’s Note: The Atlantic is making vital coverage of the coronavirus available to all readers. Find the collection here . → https://is.gd/Czz2rC00:20
BrainstormNew from The Lancet (Online): [Comment] SARS-CoV-2 variants and ending the COVID-19 pandemic: The COVID-19 pandemic has devastated health-care systems, shut down schools and communities, and plunged the world into an economic recession. While 2020 was a challenging year, 2021 looks to be difficult with the emergence of multiple variants of severe acute [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/afyDLM00:33
BrainstormNew from Medical Xpress: Preventive blood thinning drugs linked to reduced risk of death in COVID-19 patients: Patients given preventive blood thinning drugs (prophylactic anticoagulants) within 24 hours of admission to hospital with COVID-19 are less likely to die compared with those who do not receive them, finds a study published by The BMJ today. → https://is.gd/wtALXM01:10
BrainstormNew from BMJ Open: Can routine blood tests be modelled to detect advanced liver disease in the community: model derivation and validation using UK primary and secondary care data: Objectives Most patients are unaware they have liver cirrhosis until they present with a decompensating event. We therefore aimed to develop and validate an algorithm to [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/nHikmr01:47
pigzuuhttps://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.02.06.21251283v1.full.pdf03:16
BrainstormUpdates for Saint Lucia: +278 cases (now 2415) since 9 hours ago — France: +23371 cases (now 3.4 million), +360 deaths (now 80803) since 23 hours ago — United Kingdom: +13412 cases (now 4.0 million) since 23 hours ago — Netherlands: +3024 cases (now 1.0 million), +57 deaths (now 14686) since 23 hours ago03:20
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Australian state of Victoria to go into Stage 4 Lockdowns from Midnight after 12 community transmission cases of UK COVID-19 Strain detected. → https://is.gd/Eh8woZ04:00
BrainstormUpdates for New Zealand: +2 cases (now 2326) since a day ago04:09
LjL%tell de-facto old question, new answer: "<de-facto[m]> dTal do you know if they sell those silicon mushrooms for the valves as replacement parts?" actually yes they do, apparently: https://www.amazon.de/dp/B07Z6VH519/04:10
BrainstormLjL, I'll pass de-facto your message when they are around.04:10
kreyrenIs it sane to take a blood plasma from a covid-19 survivor with 8.57 IgG and inject it to myself when i have covid-19 early symptoms?04:11
kreyrenafaik that's how trump was treated no?04:11
dTalhuh, wow04:11
kreyreno.o04:12
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Dan Andrews announces Victoria snap lockdown for 5 days, stage 4 restrictions apply to Melbourne, Australian Open → https://is.gd/ZsQBvB04:24
LjLkreyren, didn't you ask that before and i told you that no, he used the Regeneron antibody cocktail?04:35
kreyren<LjL "kreyren, didn't you ask that bef"> I asked three times already, but i am not aware of anyone responding to me O.o04:37
kreyrenLjL: afaik Regeneron is just a blood plasma from covid-19 survivor from what i was able to find?04:37
kreyrenand how it seems to be explained by news ppl x.x04:37
kreyrenand reading through https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casirivimab/imdevimab seems to support that claim?04:37
LjLkreyren, no, Regeneron is a mixture of a couple of monoclonal antibodies04:44
LjLplasma from survivors is full of all sorts of different antibodies04:44
LjLRegeneron contains a couple of monoclonal antibodies, which is a way of saying "always the same antibody" basically (created by the same cell)04:45
LjLand i don't know where you get from the article that it is obtained from blood plasma of survivors04:45
LjLeven if it were, though, it would be quite a different thing from unfiltered generic blood plasma from survivors04:45
kreyrenI see O.o So it's made from that plasma, but they are cherrypicking the antibodies that are known to work agains SARS-CoV-2 ?04:45
LjLi don't think it's made from that plasma at all04:46
LjLi believe it's produced in bioreactors04:46
LjLthis is exactly two antibodies04:46
kreyrenwell know.. they seem to be doing lab tests only04:46
LjLthere may other antibodies in plasma that "work against" the virus, but these are known to be neutralizing antibodies04:46
* kreyren is hoping to have course of action in case he gets covid-19 to harvest those antibodies in his lab04:46
LjLthey are not doing lab tests only04:46
LjLthey have an EUA, so they are being used04:46
LjL(to some extent)04:47
kreyrenhm i see O.o04:47
kreyrenAny research that shows the use of blood plasma from a covid-19 survivors or any course of action to increase the survivability of covid-19?04:48
kreyrenassuming vaccines not being distributed as needed04:49
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: CDC recommends double masks to help protect against COVID-19 → https://is.gd/EFfMC404:49
LjLkreyren, i haven't been followed that sort of research closely, but my impression is that convalescent plasma doesn't work great, and may come with risks04:51
KREYREENI see O.o04:52
* KREYREEN is sad, goes to buy more filters and plot a break in to steal the vaccine from gov then04:52
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: BBC World News Banned in China After criticizing pandemic → https://is.gd/oNHyPT05:51
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: 'Stop killing us': Attacks on Asians, Asian Americans highlight rise in hate incidents amid COVID-19 → https://is.gd/NGO3LT06:03
enatian[m]is canada going to increase its vaccine production?06:16
BrainstormUpdates for Belgium: +2149 cases (now 733100), +39 deaths (now 21551) since 22 hours ago06:20
BrainstormNew preprint: Differential roles of RIG-I-like receptors in SARS-CoV-2 infection by Duomeng Yang et al, made available as preprint on 2021-02-11 at https://biorxiv.org/cgi/content/short/2021.02.10.430677 [... want %more?]06:57
CoronaBot/r/covid19: A SARS-CoV-2 lineage A variant (A.23.1) with altered spike has emerged and is dominating the current Uganda epidemic (80 votes) | https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.02.08.21251393v1 | https://redd.it/lhzdqn07:03
BrainstormNew from BBC Health: Covid-19: UK 'not learning lessons of Australia quarantine': Hotel quarantine rules for people coming from "red list" countries seem less strict than those in Australia. → https://is.gd/omDHsN07:19
BrainstormNew from The Indian Express: World: Melbourne enters new lockdown, barring Australian Open crowds → https://is.gd/bpHi7z07:31
CoronaBot/r/coronavirus: Pfizer vaccine found to give strong immune response to new Covid variants (10029 votes) | https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/feb/11/pfizer-vaccine-strong-response-new-covid-variants | https://redd.it/lhtsyl07:40
BrainstormNew from WHO Euro: New WHO report reveals urgency of confronting tobacco use among women: A new report by WHO/Europe about women and the tobacco epidemic has been launched. The report, “Through a gender lens: women and tobacco in the WHO European Region”, has revealed that, although tobacco use among women is decreasing overall, the rate is going [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/jZaNWU07:44
BrainstormUpdates for Vinnytsia Oblast, Ukraine: +392 cases (now 29180), +2 deaths (now 552) since a day ago — France: +11637 cases (now 3.4 million) since 11 hours ago — Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada: +100 cases (now 610) since a day ago — United Kingdom: +5857 cases (now 4.0 million), +110 deaths (now 115639) since 12 hours ago08:12
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Brazil says Amazon COVID-19 variant three times more contagious → https://is.gd/gvH45V08:21
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Daily Discussion Thread | February 12, 2021: The World Health Organization maintains up-to-date and global information. Please refer to our Wiki for additional information. You can find answers to frequently asked questions about Covid-19 and vaccines in our FAQ . → https://is.gd/NFcx1D09:10
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Brazil: missionaries 'turning tribes against coronavirus vaccine' | Brazil → https://is.gd/0oXei310:24
BrainstormNew from The Indian Express: World: Brazil minister says Amazon coronavirus variant three times more contagious → https://is.gd/jcSWOM10:49
BrainstormNew from Medical Xpress: Portugal's relief at falling COVID-19 cases tempered by fear: Dr. Nuno Germano had a nagging fear when Portugal's January surge of COVID-19 cases threatened to overwhelm the public health system, forcing his intensive care unit at Lisbon's Curry Cabral Hospital to double its number of beds in a week. → https://is.gd/fnCISc11:14
BrainstormNew from BMJ: Covid-19: Is Manaus the final nail in the coffin for natural herd immunity?: Hospitals in the Brazilian Amazon collapsed for the second time in mid-January.A surge in patients with covid-19 exhausted hospital supplies of oxygen in the region’s capital of Manaus, forcing... → https://is.gd/Iz8wnb11:39
DocScrutinizer05[10 Feb 2021 15:13:34] <kreyren> Is it insane to take a blood from a person who has 8.47 IgG on SARS-CoV-2 and separate it to use the plasma when exposed to SARS-CoV-2 ?12:17
DocScrutinizer05[10 Feb 2021 15:13:55] <kreyren> afaik that's the treatment that they gave to trump right12:17
DocScrutinizer05WHAT THE...?=!??  (timestanmp!)12:17
kreyrenwhaaat12:17
kreyrentime stan mp? Sounds like an actor to me12:18
DocScrutinizer05[10 Feb 2021 15:59:00] <DocScrutinizer05> kreyren: I seem to recall plasma from recovered covid individuals has not performed up to expectations and been deprecated a few eeks ago12:18
DocScrutinizer05[10 Feb 2021 15:59:48] <DocScrutinizer05> I don't know exactly what Trump received but I'm quite sure monoclonal antibodies been part of it12:18
DocScrutinizer05[10 Feb 2021 16:01:15] <DocScrutinizer05> this, in my layman's point of view, would exclude such plasma therapy since they are pretty much competing approaches by same means: antibodies12:18
DocScrutinizer05[10 Feb 2021 16:05:33] <DocScrutinizer05> http://reisenweber.net/irclogs/freenode/__covid-19/__covid-19.2021-01-15.log.html#t2021-01-15T18:37:1512:18
kreyrenI see O.o12:19
* kreyren is reading12:19
kreyrenDocScrutinizer05: > and transfused into seriously ill patients. [...] --- What about giving that to people that have early symptoms?12:20
kreyrenafaik the antibody cocktail also doesn't work for seriously ill or people who has covid-19 for a long time12:21
DocScrutinizer05you were even highlighted on the direct and immediate answer to your question :-(12:21
kreyreno.o how didn't i get that message then!12:21
kreyrendid you highlight the correct person x.x12:21
kreyrenaldo looking at my calendar i was sleeping when you responded x.x12:22
-RSSBot[LjLmatrix- Feed: Progetto Bellezz@, modifica della Segreteria tecnico-amministrativa ( http://www.governo.it/it/articolo/progetto-bellezz-modifica-della-segreteria-tecnico-amministrativa/16176 )13:00
BrainstormNew from Emma Hodcroft: @firefoxx66: I would love to see concrete plans from funding bodies to help address both the current impact the pandemic is having on female researchers & the possible longer-term damage to CVs.And to hear how universities/research agencies will fairly handle pandemic "CV gaps" when hiring. → https://is.gd/TFy5J713:18
BrainstormNew from BBC Health: Covid: Virus cases are going down across the UK: The data provides more evidence that the lockdown is working to control even more infectious variants of the virus that are circulating. → https://is.gd/CRYAkf13:30
-RSSBot[LjLmatrix- Feed: Convocazione Consiglio dei Ministri n. 97 ( http://www.governo.it/it/articolo/convocazione-consiglio-dei-ministri-n-97/16177 )13:30
DocScrutinizer05>><kreyren> did you highlight the correct person x.x<< you look at the quote and backscroll/chanlog and tell me!13:37
DocScrutinizer05looking at >>[10 Feb 2021 15:59:00] <DocScrutinizer05> kreyren: I seem to recall<< I'd say I did, no?13:38
-RSSBot[LjLmatrix- Feed: Consiglio dei Ministri n. 97 ( http://www.governo.it/it/articolo/consiglio-dei-ministri-n-97/16178 )13:41
DocScrutinizer05thanks for the generic lesson though. I as well sometimes simply repost questions that I didn't see getting answerred. Now I notice how annoying that may feel to a somebody who might have given a reply, as well to bystanders. I will try to act less "lazy" from now on, asking if there been a reply I didn't notice or if there's sth wrong with my question :-)13:43
kreyren<DocScrutinizer05 "looking at >>[10 Feb 2021 15:59:"> yep seems like it O.o13:43
kreyrenDocScrutinizer05: rather i have multiple nicks so i though you highlighted wrong one13:43
DocScrutinizer05don't worry, I already chilled :-)13:43
kreyrenthat shoudn't matter though x.x13:44
kreyrenok o.o13:44
kreyreni guess it's possible that i got tor disconnect in the exact same time as you replied to me13:45
* kreyren feels like he's making DocScrutinizer05 to hate him x.x13:50
DocScrutinizer05don't worry, you allowed me to learn a valuable lesson for myself13:54
kreyrenhmm O.o13:55
* kreyren waits for a virtual headpat then13:55
* DocScrutinizer05 patpats kreyren13:55
kreyren^-^13:55
BushDid1337covid-19.513:56
BushDid1337herd immunity13:57
DocScrutinizer05kreyren: pro tip: chanlog https://is.gd/xpld3l - comes even with pretty convenient search function14:05
kreyrenOne more step14:05
kreyrenPlease complete the security check to access is.gd14:05
kreyrenx.x14:05
DocScrutinizer05alas no regex (maybe in a moody moment I might try to fix this flaw)14:06
kreyrenhmm O.o14:06
DocScrutinizer05hm, is.gd acting up for you? TBH I got no clue what is gd (pun intended)14:07
kreyrenDocScrutinizer05: ye it's using cloudflare x.x14:07
kreyrenthese don't like tor users too much14:07
BrainstormNew from Reddit (test): nCoV: When to Quarantine | 11FEB21 → https://is.gd/xuj3SK14:07
DocScrutinizer05here you are: bookmark-able http://reisenweber.net/irclogs/freenode/__covid-19/latest.log.html14:08
kreyrenmy browser can't have bookmarks because fingerprinting concerns x.x14:08
DocScrutinizer05no https no cloudflare justplain old http :-D14:08
kreyrenhmm O.o14:09
kreyrenwhy not put that in topic14:09
DocScrutinizer05too long?14:09
kreyrenhmm x.x14:09
BushDid1337I heard doing meth will keep you from getting carona14:10
kreyrenBushDid1337: how would that even work14:10
DocScrutinizer05anybody fit with "web programming"? I'd appreciate a patch for https://mg.pov.lt/irclog2html/ by mgedmin, to allow regex search14:11
BushDid1337salinity increased in blood14:11
kreyrenBushDid1337: i ain't aware of that helping14:11
BushDid1337virus isn't used to ph change14:11
BushDid1337jk I just made that up14:12
DocScrutinizer05I guess that's been a meth head who came up with that story ;-D14:12
* kreyren waited to raise a hand on that web programming, but then he struggles with gitea frontned contrib that lowered his confidence 14:12
kreyren<BushDid1337 "jk I just made that up"> you should do a research on that ^-^14:12
BushDid1337lol14:12
BushDid1337that sounds like a wild goose chase14:13
BushDid1337I'm all in14:13
kreyreno.o14:14
* kreyren goes to hide back to his code editor14:14
DocScrutinizer05re chanlog search patch: it's python and I hope I spotted correctly it's this https://github.com/mgedmin/irclog2html/blob/master/src/irclog2html/irclogsearch.py file. Patches for regex search highly welcome14:16
DocScrutinizer05LjL: ^^^ interested? yo dawg, heard you like python14:17
* kreyren saw python and runs away14:20
kreyreni had interesting discussion about python in https://community.fsfe.org/t/fsfe-defined-coding-standards/597/12  recently~14:20
BrainstormNew from Reddit (test): nCoV: PAHO: COVID-19 cases in the Americas rose 14% since Jan. 15, but increase is lower than previous period - PAHO/WHO | 11FEB21 → https://is.gd/RnUuBh14:20
BrainstormUpdates for Switzerland: +1253 cases (now 540727) since 22 hours ago14:31
BrainstormNew from Reddit (test): nCoV: 1,962 people should receive the second dose against the coronavirus in Ecuador from this Thursday 11 | 11FEB21 → https://is.gd/NSTU6M14:33
BrainstormNew from Medical Xpress: Research trial of 'smart' hand sanitizers to help hand hygiene in offices: "Smart" hand sanitisers that can provide data on workplace hand hygiene are being trialed across the country, as part of research by the Universities of Sheffield and Leeds into how best to engage people with the latest COVID-19 workplace hand hygiene guidance. → https://is.gd/hVNmMt15:09
BrainstormNew from Medical Xpress: CDC says masks must fit tightly – and two are better than one: On Feb. 10, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention released new mask guidelines based on a study of how mask fit affects the wearer's exposure to airborne particles. With more transmissible COVID-19 strains emerging around the world, it is important to [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/TNHdJW15:23
BrainstormNew from Emma Hodcroft: @firefoxx66: You can eyeball 👀 this newly designated lineage on the dedicated #SARSCoV2 S:E484 build here (in green):https://nextstrain.org/groups/neherlab/ncov/S.E484?c=gt-S_484,888&r=countryhttps://is.gd/OgEmRS15:36
BrainstormUpdates for Germany: +8498 cases (now 2.3 million) since 23 hours ago16:04
CoronaBot/r/coronavirus: It works: 0 deaths, only 4 severe cases among 523,000 fully vaccinated Israelis (10106 votes) | https://www.timesofisrael.com/hmo-sees-only-544-covid-infections-among-523000-fully-vaccinated-israelis/ | https://redd.it/li9jg817:13
DocScrutinizer05LjL: around?17:23
DocScrutinizer05meh, @anybody: please test new python-regex feature in http://reisenweber.net/irclogs/freenode/__covid-19/search?q=%5CbTEST%5Cb%28%3Fi%2917:24
DocScrutinizer05https://docs.python.org/3/howto/regex.html17:26
BrainstormNew from ClinicalTrials.gov: (news): Oxidative Stress Parameters, Trace Element and Quality of Life in Men Before and After Covid-19 Vaccines → https://is.gd/Zt8o8S17:27
BrainstormNew from ClinicalTrials.gov: (news): Effects of COVID-19 Hospitalization on Physical Performance → https://is.gd/kwm4Lb17:39
-RSSBot[LjLmatrix- Feed: Comunicato stampa del Consiglio dei Ministri n. 97 ( http://www.governo.it/it/articolo/comunicato-stampa-del-consiglio-dei-ministri-n-97/16180 )17:40
BrainstormNew from ClinicalTrials.gov: (news): Prognosis and Course of COVID-19 Infection in Hospitalised Patients → https://is.gd/nDPLMs17:52
BrainstormNew from ClinicalTrials.gov: (news): Efficacy of a Dietary Supplementation in Reducing Hospital Admissions for COVID-19. Randomized Clinical Trial → https://is.gd/CPyeow18:05
BrainstormNew from BBC Health: England 'on track' for vaccinating Covid priority groups: The aim is to offer a vaccine against Covid to the most vulnerable people by Monday. → https://is.gd/h4eb7z18:17
Arsaneritis it safe to let arbitrary people insert regex?18:51
BrainstormNew from Medical Xpress: WHO chief: all hypotheses still open on COVID origins: The head of the World Health Organization said Friday that all hypotheses on the origins of the COVID-19 pandemic remained on the table, following an investigation mission in China. → https://is.gd/4zC5KE18:52
BrainstormUpdates for United Kingdom: +15144 cases (now 4.0 million), +758 deaths (now 116287) since 22 hours ago — Netherlands: +2750 cases (now 1.0 million), +59 deaths (now 14745) since 15 hours ago — Germany: +8662 cases (now 2.3 million), +556 deaths (now 64544) since 23 hours ago — Canada: +3486 cases (now 819866), +90 deaths (now 21117) since 23 hours ago18:53
CoronaBot/r/covid19: Four potential COVID-19 therapeutics enter Phase 2/3 testing in NIH ACTIV-2 trial (82 votes) | https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/four-potential-covid-19-therapeutics-enter-phase-2-3-testing-nih-activ-2-trial | https://redd.it/licl7h18:56
BrainstormUpdates for Italy: +316 deaths (now 93045) since 23 hours ago19:11
LjLnice DocScrutinizer05, it does seem to work19:33
LjL<CarlSagan> [Ars Technica - Science] Arthritis drug cuts COVID deaths and hospital stays in big randomized trial https://arstechnica.com/?p=1741901 2021-02-12T17:37:1219:35
LjLthis is tocilizumab19:35
LjLhadn't another trial of this drug been stopped because it seemed to *cause* deaths?!19:35
LjL"Among hospitalized patients requiring oxygen in the trial, there were 596 deaths in the group of 2,022 patients randomly assigned to take tocilizumab—29 percent died—and 694 deaths in the group of 2,094 patients randomly assigned to standard care—33 percent died. That’s an absolute difference of 4 percent in deaths and a 14 percent drop in the relative rate of death."19:36
LjLhow exciting :\19:36
LjLhow can that possibly be significant? it doesn't *look* significant to me19:37
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: China refuses to give WHO raw data on early COVID-19 cases - WSJ → https://is.gd/AmNMha19:39
BrainstormNew from BBC Health: Covid: Wales 'first in UK to hit February vaccine target': Everyone in top four priority groups will have been offered a Covid jab by Friday, ministers claim. → https://is.gd/YwqF0H20:15
BrainstormUpdates for Spain: +14581 cases (now 3.1 million), +530 deaths (now 64747) since 23 hours ago20:21
JigsyI thought there were channels missing from my window.20:43
JigsyI was right!20:43
LjL%cases UK20:44
BrainstormLjL: In United Kingdom, there have been 4.0 million confirmed cases (6.0% of the population) and 116287 deaths (2.9% of cases) as of an hour ago. 81.0 million tests were performed (5.0% positive). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=United%20Kingdom for time series data.20:44
Jigsy>Government scientific advisers say UK may need to debate on whether to let Covid rip and cause a 'big wave' once all over-50s have been vaccinated20:45
JigsyI see "herd immunity" is still at the top of the deck.20:46
LjLsigh20:46
LjLas if no Manaus20:46
de-factosuggestion: lets call it "herd breeding (evasion mutants)"21:06
Brainstormde-facto: At 2021-02-12 03:10:55 UTC, LjL told you: old question, new answer: "<de-facto[m]> dTal do you know if they sell those silicon mushrooms for the valves as replacement parts?" actually yes they do, apparently: https://www.amazon.de/dp/B07Z6VH519/21:06
de-factooh nice thanks LjL havens seen those on amzn21:07
DocScrutinizer05>><LjL> nice DocScrutinizer05, it does seem to work<< ok, beautified it a bit more. And added link and a hint that now it's case-sensitive search by default and how to search case-insensitive with appending (?i)21:18
DocScrutinizer05like  http://reisenweber.net/irclogs/freenode/__covid-19/search?q=new+from+bbc+health%28%3Fi%2921:19
DocScrutinizer05even http://reisenweber.net/irclogs/freenode/__covid-19/search?q=brainstorm+new+from+bbc+health%28%3Fi%2921:21
de-factoHey DocScrutinizer05 thats neat :)21:33
DocScrutinizer05thanks! :-)21:33
DocScrutinizer05http://reisenweber.net/irclogs/freenode/__covid-19/search?q=%5CBtest%5Cb%28%3Fi%29   vs  http://reisenweber.net/irclogs/freenode/__covid-19/search?q=%5Cbtest%5CB%28%3Fi%2921:40
DocScrutinizer05hope it helps21:41
BrainstormNew from Derek Lowe: @Dereklowe: I've been getting a lot of questions about antibody-dependent enhancement with coronavirus vaccines, so I've done another post on the subject. Good news: there's no evidence that I can find that it's happening at all.https://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archives/2021/02/12/antibody-dependent-enhancement-and-the-coronavirus-vaccineshttps://is.gd/Hj2CZC22:13
BrainstormUpdates for Netherlands: +2764 cases (now 1.0 million) since 19 hours ago — Switzerland: +18 deaths (now 9747) since 22 hours ago22:25
BrainstormNew from Medical Xpress: Virus expected to last long-term despite global vaccine rollout: The head of the EU's disease control agency warned Friday that the novel coronavirus could last indefinitely even as global infections slowed by nearly half in the last month and vaccine rollouts gathered pace in parts of the world. → https://is.gd/3Y2U9P22:48
DocScrutinizer05Tirol practices lockdown-Mk2, everything open, everybody around locks the frontiers completely22:57
DocScrutinizer05unteresting approach, I hope it won't go viral (pun intended)22:58
generasouth or north or both?22:58
DocScrutinizer05at least north since bavaria closes frontiers22:59
de-factowas Tirol not having problems with the naste SA evasive mutant?22:59
de-facto*nasty23:00
DocScrutinizer05in austria, military controls the federal borders23:00
DocScrutinizer05de-facto: yep, that's why23:00
de-factothat makes a lot of sense23:00
DocScrutinizer05actually they refuse to act accordingly, that's why23:00
DocScrutinizer05they could have opted for _not_ insisting in terminating lockdown completely23:01
DocScrutinizer05they gad the choice, they have picked this option. I hope they will survivie it and feel happy with it23:02
DocScrutinizer05I just wonder how long until we need same mess with one of the 17 german federal states23:04
DocScrutinizer05I also wonder if we would see military vlovk streets then, or police will have a lot of new vacant positions then23:06
DocScrutinizer05block*23:06
rpifanis the order with bayern closed?23:16
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Germany closes Austrian and Czech borders as Covid anxieties rise | Unilateral move to stop spread of variants highlights difficulties posed by Schengen → https://is.gd/BNCgfZ23:44
de-factohopefully they will enforce it with military and weapons23:45
BrainstormUpdates for France: +645 deaths (now 81448) since 20 hours ago23:59

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