libera/##covid-19/ Monday, 2021-02-15

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BrainstormNew from https://covid19.specops.network : ljl-covid: Add NERVTAG document confirming increased disease severity of VOC/B.1… → https://is.gd/J7g6Jc00:11
LjLde-facto, from your link... i only skimmed, but00:18
LjL"Even accounting for this expected increase in detection power, it is evident that a significant qualitative shift in selective pressures occurred ~11 months after SARS-CoV-2 cases were first reported in Wuhan city in December 2019. Specifically, during November 2020 this shift manifested in substantial increases in the numbers of SARS-CoV-2 codon sites that were detectably evolving under both positive and negative selection. This increase accelerated00:18
LjLthrough January 2021"00:18
LjLdo they make any hypotheses as to why there is this non-expected shift in selective pressures at a sudden point?00:18
LjLskipping down to the conclusion they basically just say again, there is, we see it00:18
LjLwithout alternative explanations i kinda want to go down the tinfoil rabbit hole of AZ trials having caused the mutations again *looks at DocScrutinizer05*00:19
BrainstormUpdates for Switzerland: +10 deaths (now 9765) since a day ago00:24
HarutoIzubakikeicovid is just-00:31
HarutoIzubakikeinot as bad as everybody makes it seem-00:31
LjLthat's not even a valid haiku00:32
BrainstormUpdates for France: +12742 cases (now 3.5 million), +167 deaths (now 81814) since 22 hours ago00:43
BrainstormNew from Derek Lowe: @EricTopol: RT by @Dereklowe: Important to add that this has been achieved with the B.1.1.7 strain accounting for almost all covid infections in Israel. → https://is.gd/iTCnqC00:47
CoronaBot/r/covid19: Emergence in late 2020 of multiple lineages of SARS-CoV-2 Spike protein variants affecting amino acid position 677 (80 votes) | https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.02.12.21251658v1 | https://redd.it/ljqzgd00:53
CoronaBot/r/coronavirus: Analysis of 1.2 million Israelis, half vaccinated by Pfizer, the rest un-vaccinated, reveals a 94% efficacy in preventing symptomatic disease. 92% drop in severe disease. (10017 votes) | https://www.maariv.co.il/breaking-news/Article-821843 | https://redd.it/ljsjys01:05
de-factoThey dont state a reason, they only describe their observations and conclude "We find evidence that the emergence of the 501Y lineages coincided with a marked global change in the selective environment within which SARS-CoV-2 is evolving."01:43
de-factothey dont speculate about the nature of the positive or negative selective pressure, but rather focus on the convergent mutations01:46
de-factothere probably is even more information in their data and graphs as they mention in the text, imho a very interesting first analysis on where we might be heading with all those mutations01:48
BrainstormUpdates for Netherlands: +3843 cases (now 1.0 million), +45 deaths (now 14865) since 23 hours ago — United Kingdom: +8837 cases (now 4.0 million) since 22 hours ago02:28
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Lockdown opponents call for arrest, assault and beheading of medical officer of health → https://is.gd/b55H0R02:36
CoronaBot/r/covid19: Anti-SARS-CoV-2 seropositivity among medical students in Copenhagen (80 votes) | https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.02.09.21251421v1 | https://redd.it/ljwyuq03:00
DocScrutinizer05LjL: >>AZ trials having caused the mutations<< it's just too obvious and plausible - can't be true ;-)03:06
de-facto[m]UK making 14 day hotel quarantine mandatory for travelers  from certain countries, eg Brazil and SA etc03:42
de-facto[m]travelers from other countries must quarantine 10 days at home with two negative tests03:43
gigasu_shidaim' feeling these days like the US constantly has some sort of big event going on that brings people together and spreads the virus03:52
gigasu_shidasuperbowl, valentines day, easter, memorial day03:53
pigughsgigasu_shida: and 1/2 the country doesn't wear masks04:04
gigasu_shidapeople just don't take anything very seriously anymore04:06
gigasu_shidaeven if there were an outbreak of ebola i think ppl would not take it seriously04:07
pigughsmany people just get their news from their fb feeds, i've a sibling who just sends me the late night talk show hosts segments, sent me one where SNL was making fun on assange for example04:07
gigasu_shidahow FB became the internet04:11
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: New Zealand's Auckland COVID outbreak is UK variant, says PM Ardern → https://is.gd/t91HW304:14
LjLwell that's bad news for NZ :\04:19
LjL"In a country where many people are skeptical about vaccines, Japan sought additional tests to address safety concerns. But the tests were conducted on only 160 people, and some question whether it was worth it to delay the rollout." ← groan -.-04:22
LjL'https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/japan-formally-approves-covid-19-vaccine-7588753404:22
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Batch of homegrown coronavirus mutations seen in US → https://is.gd/65YFPa04:51
DocScrutinizer05yeah,japanese are nuts05:03
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Israeli study finds 94% drop in symptomatic COVID-19 cases with Pfizer vaccine → https://is.gd/JxQO4v05:04
DocScrutinizer050 deaths05:05
DocScrutinizer05but hey, all those 34k of phase3 study and the million in Israel all had a long nose, let's run our own japanese study with 200 real japanese05:07
BrainstormUpdates for United Kingdom: +8242 cases (now 4.0 million), +194 deaths (now 117212) since 21 hours ago — France: +8481 cases (now 3.5 million) since 21 hours ago — Netherlands: +2599 cases (now 1.0 million), +17 deaths (now 14870) since 21 hours ago — Canada: +2356 cases (now 827644) since 21 hours ago05:10
gigasu_shidaDocScrutinizer05: are you concerned about new variants?05:26
DocScrutinizer05gigasu_shida: quite a bit05:44
DocScrutinizer05not so much about those three existing ones but about those that are yet to come05:46
LjLi'm concerned enough about the SA variant given it appears to beat AZ05:51
LjLand the UK variant being both more contagious and more deadly isn't particularly cool05:52
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Wuhan's COVID-19 outbreak probably 500% bigger than first thought, WHO team tells CNN → https://is.gd/csgq3R05:54
BrainstormNew from The Indian Express: World: New Zealand in coronavirus lockdown as U.K. variant cases reported → https://is.gd/IxPPaL06:06
DocScrutinizer05de-facto: when number of new cases (4426) has dropped by ~400 aka 10% vs 7d ago, then how can incidences/100k7d *climb* by ~2% from 57.x to now 58.9%?07:06
DocScrutinizer05did german population shrink by 12+% within td?07:07
DocScrutinizer057d even07:24
BrainstormUpdates for United Kingdom: +9289 cases (now 4.0 million), +209 deaths (now 117276) since 13 hours ago — Lombardy, Italy: +1987 cases (now 563078), +21 deaths (now 27781) since a day ago — Belgium: +1516 cases (now 738631), +28 deaths (now 21662) since a day ago — Netherlands: +1730 cases (now 1.0 million), +11 deaths (now 14876) since 5 hours ago07:51
BrainstormNew from BBC Health: (news): Covid: New phase begins after first vaccine target hit in England → https://is.gd/ddPahZ08:33
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: China cracks down on spurious, illegal, pricey vaccines → https://is.gd/Fy4uXC08:46
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Daily Discussion Thread | February 15, 2021: The World Health Organization maintains up-to-date and global information. Please refer to our Wiki for additional information. You can find answers to frequently asked questions about Covid-19 and vaccines in our FAQ . → https://is.gd/jpN1JH09:11
BrainstormNew from The Indian Express: World: COVID conspiracy shows vast reach of Chinese disinformation → https://is.gd/mjkffz09:36
BrainstormNew from Medical Xpress: New Zealand virus outbreak is first of UK variant: officials: Two new coronavirus infections which sent New Zealand's biggest city into lockdown Monday are due to the UK variant of the disease, the first to be detected in the country, officials said. → https://is.gd/gslSlM09:49
Haley[m]%cases France09:50
BrainstormHaley[m]: In France, there have been 3.5 million confirmed cases (5.2% of the population) and 81814 deaths (2.4% of cases) as of an hour ago. 48.2 million tests were performed (7.2% positive). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=France for time series data.09:50
tempate%cases Spain09:55
Brainstormtempate: In Spain, there have been 3.1 million confirmed cases (6.5% of the population) and 64747 deaths (2.1% of cases) as of 2 days ago. 35.8 million tests were performed (8.5% positive). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=Spain for time series data.09:55
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Guinea declares Ebola epidemic after three deaths | With seven cases reported in the West African nation, including three deaths, officials declare new Ebola outbreak. → https://is.gd/zJjmky10:11
BrainstormNew from StatNews: STAT-Harris Poll: 1 in 4 Americans were unable to get a Covid-19 test when they wanted one: Nearly a quarter of Americans say they wanted to get tested for the coronavirus but were unable to do so, according to the latest survey from STAT and The Harris… → https://is.gd/dF4kcN10:36
BrainstormNew from BBC Health: Covid: When will I get the vaccine?: Two approved Covid vaccines are being rolled out across the UK, so when might you get one? → https://is.gd/VYjcP810:59
CoronaBot/r/covid19: Ivermectin vs. Placebo for the Treatment of Patients With Mild to Moderate COVID-19 (80 votes) | https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04429711 | https://redd.it/lje84r11:09
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Mexico Gets Over 800000 AstraZeneca Vaccines Doses From India → https://is.gd/excU8m11:11
BrainstormNew from BMJ: Covid-19: Are cloth masks still effective? And other questions answered: Are cloth masks still recommended?Early in the pandemic, major problems in the global supply of medical grade masks meant that the public was asked to avoid using these so that stock could be used to... → https://is.gd/n4MhPZ11:36
miscithrHi11:54
miscithrhelp me11:54
generahi12:00
BrainstormNew from The Indian Express: World: Tougher travel rules to contain spread of COVID-19 come into force in UK → https://is.gd/nLp4dO12:00
miscithrI have dry cough12:01
miscithrfor 3 weeks12:02
kreyren1miscithr: dry cough doesn't have to mean that it's covid12:02
kreyren1any other symptoms that you've noticed on yourself?12:02
miscithrwhenever I cough my head hurts12:02
kreyren1that's normal for cough12:03
kreyren1any temperature?12:03
kreyren1did you discussed this with your doctor?12:03
miscithr36.3 Celsius12:03
miscithrNot yet12:03
kreyren1Any reasoning for you to discuss this on IRC instead of with your doctor?12:03
miscithrnothing12:04
kreyren1Then you should discuss it with your doctor if you trust them.12:05
miscithrokay12:05
kreyren1and if you suspect to have covid-19 then wear a respirator FFP3 OR at least two masks.12:06
kreyren1and social distance from people and avoid crowded areas as you could cause fatalities there.12:06
miscithrI will12:07
miscithrthanks for help12:07
kreyren1np ask more questions if needed12:07
BrainstormNew from ScienceNews: In the social distancing era, boredom may pose a public health threat: Boredom contributes to pandemic fatigue and may account for why some people don’t follow social distancing rules. → https://is.gd/0ObZmB12:12
CoronaBot/r/covid19: Effect of High-Dose Zinc and Ascorbic Acid Supplementation vs Usual Care on Symptom Length and Reduction Among Ambulatory Patients With SARS-CoV-2 Infection The COVID A to Z Randomized Clinical Trial (81 votes) | https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2776305?utm_source=For_The_Media&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=ftm_links&utm_term=021221 | https://redd.it/lk0x2b12:34
BrainstormNew from ECDC: Using face masks in the community: first update - Effectiveness in reducing transmission of COVID-19: This technical report reviews the evidence that has been accumulated since the emergence of COVID-19, in addition to what has existed on this topic prior to the pandemic, and updates the ECDC opinion on the suitability of using face [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/fzO4MH12:37
BrainstormNew from The Indian Express (Health): Feelings: Indian Matchmaking’s Vyasar Ganesan finds love in pandemic → https://is.gd/4vSrZh13:14
BrainstormNew from BBC Health: (news): Coronavirus: Plan to exit lockdown 'cautious but irreversible', says Boris Johnson → https://is.gd/hDRf2G13:26
deegohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_v-U3K1sw9U13:28
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Portuguese politician implies Jewish finance behind Israel vaccine push → https://is.gd/Z183AB13:39
BrainstormNew from BBC Health: Covid: Concern at vaccine disparity in BAME health staff: A new study finds fewer South Asian and black health workers have come forward for a Covid-19 jab. → https://is.gd/eNz1jy14:17
BrainstormNew from Emma Hodcroft: @firefoxx66: R to @firefoxx66: So what does all this mean? Mostly, I think it's a reminder that just as our own responses to #SARSCoV2 adapt & change, the virus continues to adapt, too. And that we have a lot to learn from a better upstanding of why we see some mutations again & again.13/17 → https://is.gd/145Udo14:30
BrainstormUpdates for Qatar: +888 cases (now 158132) since a day ago — Switzerland: +2480 cases (now 543207), +11 deaths (now 9776) since 14 hours ago — Germany: +4208 cases (now 2.3 million) since 23 hours ago15:06
BrainstormNew from Derek Lowe: @Dereklowe: Too many people (and too many governments) have been too eager to lie about the pandemic:https://apnews.com/article/pandemics-beijing-only-on-ap-epidemics-media-122b73e134b780919cc1808f3f6f16e8https://is.gd/1RCwOk15:45
BrainstormNew from BBC Health: (news): Covid: Equalities watchdog urged to investigate UK's pandemic response → https://is.gd/b2AjzV16:18
BrainstormNew from Medical Xpress: When will kids get the COVID vaccines?: For parents with questions about COVID-19 vaccines and children, Johns Hopkins Medicine experts offer answers. → https://is.gd/RjidX316:43
CoronaBot/r/covid19: Risk compensation and face mask mandates during the COVID-19 pandemic (80 votes) | https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-021-82574-w | https://redd.it/lkbwu116:47
BrainstormNew from Medical Xpress: Diseases, Conditions, Syndromes: Herd immunity is the end game for the pandemic, but the AstraZeneca vaccine won't get us there → https://is.gd/VW4jj516:56
BrainstormNew from Medical Xpress: DR Congo starts Ebola vaccination after new outbreak: Health workers in eastern DR Congo have begun an Ebola vaccination drive after four cases, two of them fatal, surfaced just three months after the country's last outbreak of the disease, the UN said. → https://is.gd/FdH5XO17:09
BrainstormNew from ClinicalTrials.gov: CoronaVac in Patients With Autoimmune Rheumatic Diseases and HIV/AIDS: Conditions :    Rheumatic Disease;   HIV Infections;   AIDS;   Safety Issues;   Immunogenicity;   COVID-19 → https://is.gd/LB1EfL17:21
BrainstormNew from ClinicalTrials.gov: (news): BRAC Institute of Governance and Development-Hygiene Behavioural Change and Coalition → https://is.gd/m7g8vJ17:34
BrainstormNew from ClinicalTrials.gov: (news): Status of People With Cerebral Palsy and Their Caregivers During COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/0K39LQ17:46
BrainstormNew from ClinicalTrials.gov: (news): Comparison of Chest CT Findings Related to COVID-19 With RSNA and BSTI Guidelines → https://is.gd/jxSDI518:11
BrainstormNew from ClinicalTrials.gov: (news): Assessment of the Impact of COVID-19 Pandemic on Residents Training and Mental Health in Poland → https://is.gd/Qpt3qD18:36
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Israel: Tel Aviv University awards $1 million prize to Dr. Anthony Fauci for 'speaking truth to power' amid Pandemic → https://is.gd/vekxHh18:48
CoronaBot/r/covid19: Groundbreaking COVID-19 treatments to be fast-tracked through clinical trials (80 votes) | https://www.gov.uk/government/news/groundbreaking-covid-19-treatments-to-be-fast-tracked-through-clinical-trials?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=govuk-notifications&utm_source=bf8185de-d2c2-48c0-9a0c-7214d0b690e4&utm_content=daily | https://redd.it/lkeag419:00
BrainstormNew from BBC Health: Covid-19: PM urges optimistic but patient approach to pandemic: Boris Johnson hails the success of the vaccine rollout but says we must keep our "foot to the floor". → https://is.gd/bxMyAq19:00
BrainstormUpdates for Italy: +7344 cases (now 2.7 million), +258 deaths (now 93835) since 23 hours ago — United Kingdom: +10174 cases (now 4.0 million), +228 deaths (now 117394) since 21 hours ago — Germany: +4804 cases (now 2.3 million) since 23 hours ago — Samoa: +1 cases (now 3) since 2 months ago19:08
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Mexico Gets Over 800,000 AstraZeneca Vaccine Doses From India → https://is.gd/vXbT6F19:25
BrainstormNew from Medical Xpress: Vaccine shortage forces Rio to suspend Covid jabs: Rio de Janeiro will suspend its COVID-19 vaccination campaign until next week because the Brazilian city has run out of doses, Mayor Eduardo Paes said Monday. → https://is.gd/8bo25x19:37
BrainstormNew from Medical Xpress: Existing heart failure drug may treat potential COVID-19 long-hauler symptom: In a new study out of University of California San Diego School of Medicine, researchers found a drug used for heart failure improves symptoms associated with postural orthostatic tachycardia syndrome, otherwise known as POTS. This complex, [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/Zfrd5j20:02
BrainstormNew from Virological.org: Latest posts: Preliminary in silico assessment of the specificity of published molecular assays and design of new assays using the available whole genome sequences of 2019-nCoV: Updated to 507,323 COVID-19 WGS from GISAID. Table 1. Results from PSET analysis. The five Noblis assays were compared alongside the four assays from [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/davdCB20:14
BrainstormUpdates for Spain: +30251 cases (now 3.1 million), +702 deaths (now 65449) since 2 days ago20:16
LjL%tell ryouma New from Medical Xpress: Existing heart failure drug may treat potential COVID-19 long-hauler symptom: In a new study out of University of California San Diego School of Medicine, researchers found a drug used for heart failure improves symptoms associated with postural orthostatic tachycardia syndrome, otherwise known as POTS. This complex, [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/Zfrd5j20:25
BrainstormLjL, I'll pass ryouma your message when they are around.20:25
BrainstormNew from Derek Lowe: @Dereklowe: I'd have to think this is a big effect as well. But in my experience, the anti-vaccine side makes more (deliberately) attention-getting arguments than the pro-vaccine one, and organizes to do so. → https://is.gd/VUQ1Wm21:16
xrogaanRelevant. https://xkcd.com/2425/21:18
BrainstormNew from Derek Lowe: @Dereklowe: I love this quote from @angie_rasmussen:  " "Hey I’m sick of stupid SARS-CoV-2 winning evolutionary Powerball all the time.” Me too. So let’s stop selling it tickets." → https://is.gd/6UlwM821:28
* DocScrutinizer05 didn't know "in silico" was a thing now21:31
generahas been a while21:35
* genera listens to Twiv and thus knows everything^^21:36
BrainstormUpdates for France: +27288 cases (now 3.5 million), +491 deaths (now 82138) since 23 hours ago21:55
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: China refused to hand over key data to WHO team probing pandemic’s origin → https://is.gd/eOVF5O22:18
BrainstormNew from Medical Xpress: Colombia gets first shipment of coronavirus vaccines: Colombia received its first shipment of coronavirus vaccines on Monday and will soon begin to vaccinate its population of 50 million people, the third largest in Latin America. → https://is.gd/svMdG923:08
BrainstormNew from Science-Based Medicine: Lipid nanoparticles in COVID-19 vaccines: The new mercury to antivaxxers: When it comes to antivaccine misinformation and the COVID-19 pandemic, every old is new again, at least if you haven't been paying attention. This time around, it's the resurrection of an old favorite antivaccine trope, the "toxins" gambit. Truly, [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/EmxJ7h23:20
LjLubLIX[m]: that SBM article above... I think it could help it to be a little less histrionic, it has the same sort of tone as the things it wants to debunk. Plus, maybe it's because I didn't click on all the links, but after reading it I'm more scared by the (im)possibilities quoted than reassured they won't happen23:42
ubLIX[m]whoever wrote that intro paragraph ("When it comes to antivaccine...") needs shot in the face23:54
ubLIX[m]oops quiet part out loud23:54
ubLIX[m]oh, hrm. a surgical oncologist. well. smh23:58
de-factohmm loss of smell they say? i am going to arrange for a test tomorrow :(23:59
LjLde-facto: you lost smell?23:59

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