| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: PA admits some of its 1st vaccines went to gov't officials, soccer stars, Jordan → https://is.gd/gnlWHr | 00:10 |
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| de-facto | btw are those even positive soon enough? id assume the main infectious phase would be during the early reproduction in the upper respiratory tract and afaik it would then go down both respiratory tract as well as gastro-intestinal tract if not prevented by a immune response | 00:11 |
| LjL | i can answer? the italian is gone? appears to be | 00:12 |
| LjL | whew | 00:12 |
| LjL | so anyway | 00:12 |
| LjL | i don't know, i really don't. but i wish instead of automatic "ewwww China doing China things" knee-jerk reactions, someone actually looked at why they're using them and whether they have advantages | 00:12 |
| pwr22 | Hmm, looks like UK gov is now scrabbling to contain the Brazil variant over here | 00:12 |
| pwr22 | IMO they will fail, like they did with the SA variant | 00:13 |
| LjL | pwr22, we don't have to do that because we barely sequence so we have no idea whether we have it around! | 00:13 |
| pwr22 | ha ha ☹️ | 00:13 |
| de-facto | so would those feces samples even become positive soon enough to detect early infectious phase? or do they also take samples from nose and pharyngeal region? | 00:14 |
| pwr22 | I wonder if we will be first country to have exclusively have variants that are the most resistant since we are so heavily in on AstraZeneca | 00:14 |
| LjL | pwr22, well, that's the bad side of the UK's otherwise seemingly excellent vaccination rate. we'll have to see. | 00:15 |
| pwr22 | Yeah | 00:16 |
| pwr22 | Oh btw, had another blood test today and talked through the results on the previous one with the nurse | 00:16 |
| LjL | de-facto, yeah it would seem logically likely that it only detects more advanced infection, or even when you are no longer infectious (you'll remember there were studies showing the virus can be in feces a long time after infection). but i doubt they're doing it just to make people feel awkward, so i'd like to know details. | 00:16 |
| LjL | pwr22, any light shed? | 00:16 |
| pwr22 | There's some evidence my liver might be inflamed / fatty liver but the liver enzyme isn't related to the blood count stuff and the blood stuff looked normal | 00:16 |
| LjL | pwr22, do you take a lot of medications? | 00:17 |
| LjL | (thinking about reasons for inflamed liver) | 00:17 |
| pwr22 | I do take a fair amount, if things are still elevated in the new test then might have to do something | 00:17 |
| LjL | hmm | 00:18 |
| pwr22 | I would guess the main cause might be that I'm very overweight atm | 00:18 |
| LjL | i should probably get some blood tests too, including liver, but meh, our numbers are spiking, doesn't seem like the best of times | 00:18 |
| pwr22 | I didn't know they were even testing anything but kidney stuff in the last one (that was all fine btw - no potassium issues) but I'm glad they did | 00:19 |
| LjL | "NAFLD affects about 30% of people in Western countries and 10% of people in Asia." ← wow | 00:19 |
| pwr22 | The readings very narrowly out of range too btw, so there's probably nothing to be concerned about right now | 00:20 |
| LjL | "NAFLD affects about 10% of children in the United States." ← wow² | 00:20 |
| de-facto | LjL, yes it makes sense also in the light of that study you linked earlier about those reservoirs in the intesines that shed infectious virus for long time (that long covid suspicion) | 00:21 |
| LjL | right | 00:21 |
| de-facto | but i wonder if it also would be able to catch the most infectious phase, hence id suggest to not skip the normal nasal or pharyngeal swabs | 00:22 |
| LjL | pwr22, well, reading the page about fatty liver makes me say, get a stationary bike or a treadmill or something and make yourself less overweight because yikes that's scary :P | 00:22 |
| de-facto | both would be fine i guess, but not anal swabs instead of nasal ones | 00:23 |
| pwr22 | LjL: yeah I think losing weight is the best thing I can do for it by far | 00:23 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Bangladesh: +5280 cases (now 552081), +7 deaths (now 8423) since 23 hours ago — Spain: +38 deaths (now 69801) since 2 hours ago | 00:58 |
| Brainstorm | New from Ars Technica: Cuttlefish can pass the marshmallow test: Cuttlefish that were better at self-control also performed better on learning tests. → https://is.gd/Q7KUT1 | 01:12 |
| LjL | err, good to know | 01:12 |
| the-wes | now we just need to teach them how to do vaccine research | 01:15 |
| LjL | don't know about that, but i bet they'd obey lockdown rules better than us | 01:16 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for United Kingdom: +5930 cases (now 4.2 million) since 23 hours ago — Netherlands: +3878 cases (now 1.1 million), +44 deaths (now 15680) since 23 hours ago | 01:36 |
| operational | hi | 01:52 |
| LjL | hi | 01:57 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Reunion: +709 cases (now 13125), +7 deaths (now 59) since 6 days ago | 02:13 |
| LjL | <Brainstorm> New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Virus variant races through Italy, especially among children → https://is.gd/u7ErnR | 02:39 |
| de-facto | let open schools | 02:53 |
| Brainstorm | New from Derek Lowe: @jameshamblin: RT by @Dereklowe: It’s March. By May the U.S. is expected to have enough vaccines for everyone. Cases are way down. But they’re still very high, and in a tenuous plateau. Ending precautions now is like entering the last miles of a marathon and taking off your shoes and eating several hot dogs. → https://is.gd/E3pOsX | 02:55 |
| de-facto | i wonder if the prevalence of the new VoCs shows a gradient towards airports or touristic areas where initial imports socialize with highest probability | 03:01 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Chinese delegates to propose vaccine passports at annual meetings: Global Times → https://is.gd/YJlgRA | 03:26 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express: World: Texas becomes biggest US state to lift COVID-19 mask mandate → https://is.gd/my1uOr | 03:36 |
| Brainstorm | New from Ars Technica: Science: Merck/J&J deal may help US get enough vaccine for all adults by end of May → https://is.gd/y67x1G | 03:57 |
| CoronaBot | /r/coronavirus: White House moves up vaccine supply timeline, says U.S. will have enough for every adult by end of May (10265 votes) | https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/02/white-house-moves-up-vaccine-supply-timeline-says-us-will-have-enough-for-every-adult-by-end-of-may.html | https://redd.it/lwd2xw | 04:01 |
| Brainstorm | New from Politico: German liberals rise from dead (again): Free Democrats have seen their fortunes turn as Germans become increasingly exasperated with months of lockdown restrictions. → https://is.gd/8sCoBs | 04:08 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express: World: Vaccine passports, COVID’s next political flashpoint → https://is.gd/r9jLOS | 05:11 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Might the pandemic pave the way for a universal basic income? → https://is.gd/Iy1GqG | 05:32 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express: World: Biden says will have enough COVID-19 vaccine for every US adult by May → https://is.gd/LHPQEC | 05:42 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Saint Lucia: +340 cases (now 3779) since 3 hours ago — France: +17154 cases (now 3.8 million) since 22 hours ago — United Kingdom: +4799 cases (now 4.2 million), +257 deaths (now 123327) since 22 hours ago — Netherlands: +2988 cases (now 1.1 million), +49 deaths (now 15696) since 22 hours ago | 06:15 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: COVID-19 vaccine recipient in Japan dies but connection uncertain → https://is.gd/VeV4Wz | 06:24 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express: World: India stands ready to work with UN to ensure supply of COVID-19 vaccines in Syria → https://is.gd/IrC3m9 | 06:58 |
| Brainstorm | New preprint: Trajectories of Clinical and Laboratory Characteristics Associated with COVID-19 in Hemodialysis Patients by Survival by Sheetal Chaudhuri et al, made available as preprint on 2021-03-02 at https://medrxiv.org/cgi/content/short/2021.02.28.21252383 [... want %more?] | 06:58 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Lima, Peru: +11805 cases (now 618517), +345 deaths (now 20499) since 2 days ago — Callao, Peru: +1000 cases (now 58532), +45 deaths (now 2484) since 2 days ago — La Libertad, Peru: +888 cases (now 45988), +29 deaths (now 2858) since 2 days ago — Loreto, Peru: +841 cases (now 32298), +23 deaths (now 1192) since 2 days ago | 07:29 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Daily Discussion Thread | March 03, 2021: The World Health Organization maintains up-to-date and global information. Please refer to our Wiki for additional information. You can find answers to frequently asked questions about Covid-19 and vaccines in our FAQ . → https://is.gd/cFdcmA | 09:02 |
| Brainstorm | New from Medical Xpress: SARS-CoV-2 immunization passports: A ticket to normal life?: Proof of immunization against severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) may soon be required in many parts of the globe. The authors discuss how immunization passports could work, what Canada needs to do, and potential barriers and limitations in a [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/fQx7m8 | 10:16 |
| Brainstorm | New from Medical Xpress: Kenya receives receives 1 million vaccines from COVAX: Kenya has received just over 1 million doses of a COVID-19 vaccine in the first batch from the global COVAX initiative that was created to ensure that low- and middle-income countries have fair access to vaccines. → https://is.gd/kwQZ9B | 10:47 |
| Brainstorm | New from StatNews: Health: Freight pilots are flying Covid-19 vaccines around the world — and calling for their turn to be vaccinated → https://is.gd/6s1GgJ | 10:57 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express (Health): Health: COVID vaccine: Know about the possible side effects → https://is.gd/7NU1bE | 11:28 |
| -Synapsestorm- ⭕ Σεισμός? Earthquake? M6+ estimated tremor, with 44 reports, 11 early, possibly occurred 13 minutes ago (10:16:07 UTC), during daytime, Greece (39.75, 21.69) ± 123 km, ↓1 km likely felt 330 km away (in Καρδιτσομαγούλα, Γιάννουλη, Καρδίτσα, Λάρισα, Ιωάννινα…) by 867600 people — Webcams: https://www.windy.com/webcams/1596305979 https://www.windy.com/webca | 11:29 | |
| -Synapsestorm- (www.seismicportal.eu) | 11:29 | |
| -Synapsestorm- ⭕ Σεισμός! Earthquake! 6.9 Mw tremor, registered by EMSC,alomax, with 46 reports, 14 early, occurred 17 minutes ago (10:16:07 UTC), during daytime, Greece (39.73, 22.17), ↓2 km likely felt 350 km away — Webcams: https://www.windy.com/webcams/1356254678 https://www.windy.com/webcams/1313694828 https://www.windy.com/webcams/1582215841 (alomax.free.fr) | 11:33 | |
| Brainstorm | New from BMJ: Increasing recruitment into covid-19 trials: fund nursing trials: One can only agree wholeheartedly with Darzi and colleagues’ call for better recruitment into SARS-COV-2 treatment trials.1 Sadly, no mention is made of trials for nursing care.Patient experience of... → https://is.gd/eYDgXK | 11:49 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Dutch Covid test centre hit by suspected bomb attack → https://is.gd/ir2Zdx | 12:00 |
| Brainstorm | New from Medical Xpress: Slovakia imposes overnight curfew to fight COVID: Slovakia imposed an overnight curfew from Wednesday, the health ministry said, as the ex-communist country battles the world's highest COVID mortality rate. → https://is.gd/fDHyDl | 12:10 |
| Brainstorm | New from Medical Xpress: Tactical shift: Europe seeks vaccine 'overdrive' to catch up: Slow off the blocks in the race to immunize its citizens against COVID-19, Germany faces an unfamiliar problem: a glut of vaccines and not enough arms to inject them into. → https://is.gd/y6bPXd | 12:21 |
| Brainstorm | New from ECDC: Methods for the detection and identification of SARS-CoV-2 variants: This technical guidance provides guidance to laboratories, microbiology experts and relevant stakeholders in making decisions on establishing or scaling up capability and capacity to detect and identify circulating SARS-CoV-2 variants, and in making decisions on which [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/9YAwSs | 12:31 |
| mobidrop | how is Israel doing by the way? I heard they got all vaccinated first | 12:34 |
| mobidrop | seems like there was a big spike in deaths after they started vaccinating: https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus/country/israel?country=~ISR#what-is-the-daily-number-of-confirmed-deaths | 12:37 |
| CoronaBot | /r/covid19: Merck to Help Produce Johnson & Johnson’s COVID-19 Vaccine; BARDA to Provide Merck With Funding to Expand Merck’s Manufacturing Capacity for COVID-19 Vaccines and Medicines (80 votes) | https://www.merck.com/news/merck-to-help-produce-johnson-barda-to-provide-merck-with-funding-to-expand-mercks-manufacturing-capacity-for-covid-19-vaccines-and-medicines/ | https://redd.it/lwn9dl | 13:05 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Explosion at Dutch COVID-19 test centre appears intentional, police say → https://is.gd/377wKZ | 13:55 |
| darsie | Is that better than accidental? | 14:00 |
| Arsanerit | no | 14:01 |
| Jan- | that github link in the topic is broken | 14:12 |
| Brainstorm | New from Virological.org: Latest posts: Tracking SARS-CoV-2 VOC 202012/01 (lineage B.1.1.7) dissemination in Portugal: insights from nationwide RT-PCR Spike gene drop out data: Update information including data from week 8, 2021 Weekly proportion of SGTF and SGTL positive samples among all TaqPath positive samples detected, between week 49 (2020) and [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/E2T3DD | 14:16 |
| asdflkj | > Is that better than accidental? < hopefully it means COVID tests aren't inherently explosive and dangerous and likely to explode in other centers | 14:21 |
| Jan- | I have what feels like a cold. But I suspect it's just a cold. | 14:25 |
| Jan- | I'm not sure there's any real way to tell the difference, other than a PCR test. | 14:26 |
| Jan- | I could get a lateral flow test but from what I read it's barely better than tossing a coin | 14:26 |
| Brainstorm | New from Science-Based Medicine: The Next Pandemic: COVID-19 may have been a dress-rehearsal for more serious pandemics to come. How do we prepare? The post first appeared on Science-Based Medicine . → https://is.gd/GlHWDh | 14:26 |
| iz | one thing fauci said, re: telling the diff btw just allergies or non-covid symptoms and covid is covid will tend to be coming from deep in your chest, while allergies or other stuff will be more coming from your face or sinuses or whatever. idk how useful that is for you, but it's helped me calm my mind when i've had allergies or like a cough | 14:33 |
| Jan- | This is all in my nose. | 14:36 |
| Jan- | The second I get chest symptoms, I'm off to the testing centre | 14:36 |
| Jan- | I mean the thing is, it's been so long now that I'd expect to have got a minor snuffle in the meantime anyway. | 14:36 |
| * iz nods, yeah sounds about right | 14:36 | |
| * Jan- notices there's a ten foot diameter circle around her with no people in it :/ | 14:37 | |
| Brainstorm | New from Medical Xpress: Single vaccine dose may offer protection to those who have had COVID-19: New research from UNC-Chapel Hill suggests that those who have previously experienced a SARS-CoV-2 infection develop a significant antibody response to the first dose of mRNA-based COVID-19 vaccine. In fact, one dose of the vaccine could give the same [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/Abzbx5 | 14:48 |
| Brainstorm | New from Medical Xpress: Vaccine nationalism will block our path out of the pandemic. How do we resist our tribal instinct?: Most nations are currently focusing their efforts to defeat the pandemic within their own borders, under pressure to help their citizens first. But this is a global problem and governments need to work together to eradicate [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/OGINTb | 15:09 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Switzerland: +1223 cases (now 559845), +25 deaths (now 10013) since 23 hours ago | 15:28 |
| CoronaBot | /r/covid19: Bharat Biotech Announces Phase 3 Results of COVAXIN®: India’s First COVID-19 Vaccine Demonstrates Interim Clinical Efficacy of 81% (80 votes) | https://www.bharatbiotech.com/images/press/covaxin-phase3-efficacy-results.pdf | https://redd.it/lwt85y | 15:29 |
| Brainstorm | New from StatNews: Pharma: STAT+: Pharmalittle: A race is on to find alternatives to syringes and needles for vaccines; FDA under pressure to inspect more plants → https://is.gd/M2IjvP | 15:30 |
| Brainstorm | New from Medical Xpress: COVID-19 vaccine deliveries to African nations pick up speed: More African countries received the long-awaited first deliveries of COVID-19 vaccines on Wednesday, with Kenya and Rwanda benefiting from the global COVAX initiative that aims to ensure doses for the world's low-and middle-income nations. → https://is.gd/XFP4O3 | 15:40 |
| Brainstorm | New from Medical Xpress: Coronavirus: What happens when a person is simultaneously infected with two variants?: Scientists in Brazil recently reported that two people were simultaneously infected with two different variants of SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19. This co-infection seemed to have no effect on the severity of patients' illness, [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/tsyi3A | 15:51 |
| CoronaBot | /r/covid19: The collateral cardiovascular damage of COVID-19: only history will reveal the depth of the iceberg (81 votes) | https://academic.oup.com/eurheartj/advance-article/doi/10.1093/eurheartj/ehab097/6149001 | https://redd.it/lw9k3p | 15:54 |
| Brainstorm | New from Medical Xpress: Dramatic decline seen in COVID-19 cases, deaths at U.S. nursing homes: New COVID-19 cases in U.S. nursing homes have fallen to their lowest number since the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS) started keeping track in May 2020, which suggests that vaccines are helping and that it might be possible to loosen some [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/LBoGMw | 16:13 |
| Brainstorm | New from Medical Xpress: Merkel, German governors mull way ahead on lockdown: German leaders are looking for ways to ease the country out of a long-running coronavirus lockdown, which they are expected to extend on Wednesday while also opening the door to relaxing some restrictions. → https://is.gd/BibKGx | 16:23 |
| Brainstorm | New from Medical Xpress: Austria plans vaccine drive in area hit by SA virus variant: Austrian officials said Wednesday that they plan to offer vaccinations to most residents in a district that has seen significant numbers of infections with the South African coronavirus variant. → https://is.gd/rPX1xp | 16:34 |
| Brainstorm | New from Medical Xpress: Forecast: The impacts of vaccines and variants on the U.S. COVID-19 trajectory: In a report summary released today Thomas McAndrew, a computational scientist and assistant professor at Lehigh University's College of Health includes probabilistic forecasts of the impact of vaccines and variants on the U.S. COVID trajectory over [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/zDJkUk | 16:45 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express (Health): Art and Culture: Artist Jatin Das captures migrants’ lockdown ordeal in dozens of paintings → https://is.gd/TROw56 | 16:55 |
| Brainstorm | New from Shane Crotty: @profshanecrotty: May! Impressive! Vaccine for every American adult. → https://is.gd/f76jeg | 17:06 |
| Brainstorm | New from ClinicalTrials.gov: (news): Role of Lymphocyte Subsets and Laboratory Measurements in COVID-19 Disease → https://is.gd/FiNQKu | 17:38 |
| Brainstorm | New from ClinicalTrials.gov: (news): Comparison of Remdesivir and Tocilizumab Versus Hydroxychloroquine and Tocilizumab Combination in COVID-19 Patients → https://is.gd/4Qbmd9 | 17:49 |
| Brainstorm | New from ClinicalTrials.gov: (news): Pregnancy Outcomes According to the Gestational Age of Acquiring COVID-19 → https://is.gd/edT4Os | 17:59 |
| Brainstorm | New from ClinicalTrials.gov: (news): Study of the Tolerability, Safety, Immunogenicity and Preventive Efficacy of the EpiVacCorona Vaccine for the Prevention of COVID-19 → https://is.gd/DvK2vs | 18:10 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Germany: +7074 cases (now 2.5 million) since 22 hours ago — Isle of Man: +17 cases (now 511) since 23 hours ago — Italy: +347 deaths (now 98635) since 22 hours ago | 18:16 |
| LjL | my sister was just offered AstraZeneca because she used to volunteer for the Red Cross... and now i discover that she had been offered Pfizer before, but refused, because she wanted the people who actually go on ambulances to get it instead. except... as the UK informed, when you "give up" your dose, chances are you just mess up the logistics and doses may go lost -.- and she has a (mild) autoimmune issue, and for those they specifically recommend mRNA | 18:19 |
| LjL | vaccines, and she's been on an immunosuppressant before | 18:19 |
| LjL | if i had known about this before, i'd have yelled at her to get it | 18:19 |
| LjL | ugh and the italian PM'd me again, what the fuck, leave me alone, we're not best pals just because you found another italian on the internet | 18:20 |
| LjL | now i'll run away from this channel every time i see him around | 18:20 |
| Brainstorm | New from NPR: Explosion Outside Dutch Coronavirus Testing Site, Police Say: Dutch police say the explosion went off outside of a coronavirus test center several miles north of Amsterdam. There were no injuries from the blast. → https://is.gd/Tud6Ei | 18:21 |
| pwr22 | LjL: I misread that as "The Italian PM has messaged me again" | 18:33 |
| pwr22 | 😀 | 18:34 |
| pwr22 | LjL: shame to hear that about your sister ☹️. Is she gonna accept the AZ one? | 18:34 |
| LjL | the italian PM hasn't actually spoken yet, he made the health minister speak | 18:35 |
| LjL | pwr22, she's like "omg what am i gonna do" but my parents already emailed her back "do it!" | 18:35 |
| pwr22 | LjL: maybe she can demand a mRNA one because of her condition? | 18:36 |
| LjL | pwr22, not according to the description of "immune conditions" i've read on the PDF. needs to be a bit more serious | 18:36 |
| pwr22 | Ah right | 18:36 |
| LjL | pwr22, anyway she has contacted the people who treat her condition, and also the hospital that will give the vaccine (or the Red Cross), about it | 18:37 |
| LjL | the former said "you can have it, no problem" | 18:37 |
| LjL | i expect the latter will say "you have a what?" | 18:37 |
| pwr22 | Ah right | 18:37 |
| pwr22 | I'm sure AZ will be better than nothing | 18:37 |
| pwr22 | I expect we'll see a AZ booster for the SA / Brazil variants this winter | 18:37 |
| pwr22 | Which won't be a booster but basically a new vaccine but whatever the gov wants to call it 🙄 | 18:38 |
| de-facto | i am pretty sure AZ is a lot better than its reputation | 18:39 |
| LjL | also | 18:40 |
| LjL | the consent PDF from the hospital actually says AZ has a 60% efficacy | 18:40 |
| LjL | so that's great since i thought we were left at 70% | 18:40 |
| de-facto | .title https://www.ed.ac.uk/files/atoms/files/scotland_firstvaccinedata_preprint.pdf "Effectiveness of first dose of COVID-19 vaccines against hospital admissions in Scotland: national prospective cohort study of 5.4 million people" | 18:42 |
| de-facto | .title https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.03.01.21252652v1 | 18:43 |
| de-facto | "Early effectiveness of COVID-19 vaccination with BNT162b2 mRNA vaccine and ChAdOx1 adenovirus vector vaccine on symptomatic disease, hospitalisations and mortality in older adults in England" | 18:43 |
| Brainstorm | de-facto: From www.medrxiv.org: Early effectiveness of COVID-19 vaccination with BNT162b2 mRNA vaccine and ChAdOx1 adenovirus vector vaccine on symptomatic disease, hospitalisations and mortality in older adults in England | medRxiv | 18:43 |
| Brainstorm | de-facto, the URL could not be loaded | 18:44 |
| LjL | de-facto, i've seen the information about scotland. maybe not that from english. but my sister is young, her chances of recovery from COVID are excellent anyway, and she'd be very unlikely to be hospitalized. i mean, i know it's most likely still better than nothing, but i'm a bit bummed she could get Pfizer and just didn't | 18:45 |
| LjL | also i don't know if i should refresh my memory on AZ side effects by reading the studies | 18:46 |
| LjL | maybe it's best not to know, since i fret | 18:46 |
| LjL | oh | 18:47 |
| LjL | cancel what i've said! | 18:47 |
| LjL | they just wrote her that she'll get Pfizer due to the immune thing | 18:47 |
| de-facto | i stay with what i have said, AZ much better than its reputation and its an important vaccine in the immunization effort | 18:48 |
| de-facto | if its a little better or worse does not matter so much, they all are leaky to some extend hence will need some updates at some point in time | 18:48 |
| de-facto | and protection from severe or fatal trajectories is probably given by all of the approved vaccines and that is one very important factor especially for the risk groups | 18:49 |
| de-facto | btw meanwhile we have a minister president conference in Germany today about the strategy changes | 18:51 |
| de-facto | i suspect nothing good will come out of this, unfortunately. | 18:51 |
| de-facto | they are taking back restrictions and open for more contacts despite increasing infections, exactly the opposite of what we need | 18:53 |
| LjL | anyway now it didn't occur to me before (but conveniently just did) that she also has allergic reactions to a few things, especially "phenoxyethanol". i think Pfizer may have more risk of allergic reaction than AZ, is that right? also, do you know where i can find a full ingredient list for both vaccines? | 18:55 |
| LjL | the WHO says that phenoxyethanol is actually "the most commonly used preservative" in vaccines :\ | 18:55 |
| LjL | i tried googling it together with "pfizer", "bnt" and "astrazeneca", didn't find anything directly relevant | 18:55 |
| LjL | for AZ i guess i found it here https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/regulatory-approval-of-covid-19-vaccine-astrazeneca/information-for-uk-recipients-on-covid-19-vaccine-astrazeneca#what-you-need-to-know-before-you-receive-covid-19-vaccine-astrazeneca | 18:57 |
| LjL | anyway it's... i don't want to say absurd, but a bit debatable, that someone young and healthy (autoimmune quirks aside) will get vaccinated well before my parents do just because she volunteered with the Red Cross before. i mean, it's certainly a nice way to thank her, but meanwhile my parents are actually at risk and they have no idea when they'll get anything | 19:01 |
| Jan- | now I'm paranoid every time I cough. :/ | 19:07 |
| pwr22 | <LjL "they just wrote her that she'll "> Awesome | 19:08 |
| pwr22 | LjL: I seem to have a cough thing again yay | 19:08 |
| Jan- | I definitely have a cold of some kind | 19:09 |
| Jan- | whether I have covid or not is an open question at this point | 19:09 |
| pwr22 | de-facto: So what you're saying is... I should buy more AZ stock? 😎 | 19:09 |
| LjL | Jan-, if you have sniffles and stuff it's more likely to be a cold | 19:09 |
| Jan- | very mild nasal congestion. | 19:10 |
| Jan- | I coughed a bit yesterday but only for a morning | 19:10 |
| Jan- | problem is I'd normally expect to get a cold every 18 or so anyway, and it's been two thirds that damn long :/ | 19:10 |
| Brainstorm | New from Medical Xpress: Scientists discover why blood type may matter for COVID infection: (HealthDay)—A new study provides further evidence that people with certain blood types may be more likely to contract COVID-19. → https://is.gd/BOOeQ0 | 19:13 |
| * Jan- does not know her blood type | 19:14 | |
| bin_bash | it's interesting how few people know their blood type honestly | 19:24 |
| LjL | bin_bash, i also found it interesting how few people have something that to me is extremely basic like a thermometer | 19:27 |
| LjL | but i guess blood type is much more crytical if you need a transfusion | 19:27 |
| bin_bash | LjL: yeah idk how you could not have any thermometers | 19:28 |
| LjL | Jan-, cough is prominent with COVID. nasal congestion i think not so much. of course that's just statistics, could vary individually. do you often wear a mask? they can cause a bit of irritation sometimes. | 19:28 |
| bin_bash | nasal congestion is prominent afaik | 19:29 |
| LjL | oh | 19:29 |
| LjL | ignore me then, my memory is useless | 19:29 |
| bin_bash | my understanding is any cold/flu symptoms could be covid, but loss of smell and taste is almost certainly covid | 19:30 |
| bin_bash | according to this nasal congestion is "sometimes" https://www.emersonhospital.org/articles/allergies-or-covid-19 | 19:30 |
| bin_bash | the people ive known who contracted it had nasal congestion but that could very well be a selection bias | 19:31 |
| bin_bash | as at least some of them ALSO have allergies so it couldve been a co-morbitiy | 19:31 |
| Brainstorm | New from Shane Crotty: @profshanecrotty: R to @profshanecrotty: The booster vaccination plan is reasonable, and such a variant booster vaccine could be available quite quickly with an immunogenicity and safety trial. (/2) → https://is.gd/dwaHwr | 19:34 |
| LjL | anyway, i guess like de-facto pointed out before, being "able" to get a cold means that you were exposed to potentially COVID, too | 19:40 |
| LjL | i.e. your mask wasn't effective enough or whatever | 19:40 |
| LjL | (although personally i think it's all probabilities, i don't think *any* mask offers absolute protection) | 19:40 |
| LjL | anyway the point just being, if you can get viral X, then you can probably also get viral Y | 19:40 |
| Brainstorm | New from Ars Technica: Science: CDC to release guide for life after vaccination—with normalcy still far off → https://is.gd/hqz9eV | 19:45 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Kuwait: +1409 cases (now 194781), +5 deaths (now 1097) since 23 hours ago | 19:50 |
| Brainstorm | New from Politico: Austerity: Coronavirus frees UK’s Rishi Sunak from a Brexit budget → https://is.gd/3Z0Q4n | 19:55 |
| bin_bash | LjL: yeah agreed | 19:55 |
| LjL | so... does anyone know where Italy's (or at least this particular consent form's) 60% figure for AstraZeneca, 59.5% actually, comes from? it doesn't match the interim data i've seen | 20:00 |
| Brainstorm | New from NPR: New Initiative By Health Insurers Aims To Help Vaccinate 2 Million Vulnerable Seniors: Officials said Wednesday that a coalition of health insurance providers will team up as part of a new "Vaccine Community Connectors" pilot program. → https://is.gd/Gj2Jne | 20:06 |
| de-facto | LjL, https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/regulatory-approval-of-covid-19-vaccine-astrazeneca/information-for-uk-recipients-on-covid-19-vaccine-astrazeneca#what-covid-19-vaccine-astrazeneca-contains | 20:07 |
| de-facto | LjL, https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/regulatory-approval-of-pfizer-biontech-vaccine-for-covid-19/information-for-uk-recipients-on-pfizerbiontech-covid-19-vaccine#ingredients | 20:08 |
| de-facto | pwr22, AstraZeneca does not make any profit from its vaccine afaik | 20:08 |
| pwr22 | Yeah I thought so but the publicity can't be bad 😁 | 20:12 |
| de-facto | if i had a cough id drink Green and Black Tea (normal amounts), maybe get some N-AcetylCysteine (ACC 600, NAC, 600mg/day), it might potentially beneficial for both a normal cold as well as in case of it being some form of COVID, newer papers even suggest it might be thrombolytic, also make sure you get enough Vitamin D3 (50-100µg/day) and maybe even some Aspirin (100-300mg/day) | 20:12 |
| -RSSBot[LjLmatrix- Feed: Conversazione telefonica Draghi - Von der Leyen ( http://www.governo.it/it/articolo/conversazione-telefonica-draghi-von-der-leyen/16348 ) | 20:12 | |
| de-facto | Jan-, but thats only what i would do, i dont have any medical background | 20:15 |
| de-facto | and of course strictly stay away from other people and get a test if i would think it might be COVID | 20:17 |
| de-facto | some countries even offer quicktests for free afaik | 20:17 |
| de-facto | .title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=as7llyajdh4 "Bund-Länder-Treffen: Pressekonferenz zu den neuen Beschlüssen zur Bekämpfung der Corona-Pandemie" <-- press conference today in German Language about the strategy, might start sometime this evening once they were able to agree on it with the ministers, tbh i expect nothing good from what one could hear in advance | 20:28 |
| Brainstorm | de-facto: From www.youtube.com: Bund-Länder-Treffen: Pressekonferenz zu den neuen Beschlüssen zur Bekämpfung der Corona-Pandemie - YouTube | 20:28 |
| Brainstorm | New from StatNews: STAT+: South Africa official explains why world trade rules should be waived to fight Covid-19: STAT spoke with Mustaqeem De Gama, counselor at the South African Mission in Geneva, about a proposal to waive world trade rules to make Covid-19 vaccines more accessible. → https://is.gd/NL3CKX | 20:37 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Spain: +484 deaths (now 70247) since 22 hours ago — France: +354 deaths (now 87486) since 22 hours ago | 20:46 |
| Brainstorm | New from WebMD: Why Blood Type May Matter for COVID Infection: A new study provides further evidence that people with certain blood types may be more likely to contract COVID-19. → https://is.gd/dm6DDM | 21:08 |
| LjL | btw, the consent form for the vaccines here include the ominous "long-term effects are not currently known" | 21:12 |
| LjL | that might scare some people | 21:12 |
| LjL | but well it's true | 21:12 |
| de-facto | i think its essential to be transparent and honest with all informations to deserve the trust of people, hence its good if they mention such things | 21:19 |
| de-facto | but they also maybe should mention that from experience most longterm effects tend to show up in the first weeks and months after vaccination (because thats the time when the reaction to the vaccine settles, in both wanted and unwanted effects) | 21:22 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for United Kingdom: +3291 cases (now 4.2 million), +183 deaths (now 123479) since 19 hours ago | 21:23 |
| de-facto | side effects even are published on regular basis by the approving agencies for everyone publicly | 21:23 |
| de-facto | i think they do very well and deserve the trust of people | 21:23 |
| de-facto | i linked a few of those here in past discussions | 21:24 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: No, the vaccine will not make you a 'genetically modified human' — how communities are battling misinformation → https://is.gd/Y8srWh | 21:39 |
| de-facto | .title https://www.tagesschau.de/newsticker/liveblog-coronavirus-mittwoch-181.html | 21:52 |
| Brainstorm | de-facto: From www.tagesschau.de: Coronavirus-Pandemie: ++ Corona-Gipfel unterbrochen ++ | tagesschau.de | 21:52 |
| Brainstorm | New from ProPublica: After a Wave of Violent Threats Against Election Workers, Georgia Sees Few Arrests: by Sonam Vashi ProPublica is a nonprofit newsroom that investigates abuses of power. Sign up to receive our biggest stories as soon as they’re published. On Nov. 30, 2020, as Georgia slogged through the second recount of its presidential election [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/yTvxMI | 21:59 |
| Brainstorm | New from Medical Xpress: New coronavirus variant out of Brazil now in 5 U.S. states: (HealthDay)—The first U.S. case of a Brazilian COVID-19 variant that doctors fear can re-infect the previously sick surfaced in Minnesota in early January 2021, and the more infectious variant has since been found in four other states, a new government report says. → https://is.gd/KUdr9z | 22:10 |
| Brainstorm | New from Emma Hodcroft: @firefoxx66: R to @firefoxx66: This also changes how Per Country plots work - only Variants are plotted now, to avoid overlap between variants that share mutationsBut - the 3 Variants of Concern are now broken down in plots!6/8 → https://is.gd/IQlPNW | 22:20 |
| de-facto | .title https://imgur.com/a/9FIlxmc https://i.imgur.com/r192bcX.png "COVID-19 Germany: Cases and Reproduction" source: https://www.rki.de/DE/Content/InfAZ/N/Neuartiges_Coronavirus/Projekte_RKI/Nowcasting.html | 22:21 |
| Brainstorm | de-facto: From imgur.com: COVID-19 Germany: Cases and Reproduction - Album on Imgur | 22:21 |
| de-facto | .title https://imgur.com/a/Or8BwqM https://i.imgur.com/8gTgev8.png "COVID-19 Germany: Cases and Reproduction (zoomed)" source: https://www.rki.de/DE/Content/InfAZ/N/Neuartiges_Coronavirus/Projekte_RKI/Nowcasting.html | 22:26 |
| Brainstorm | New from Politico: Czech Republic to get Chinese vaccines: Beijing 'immediately' agreed to sending vaccines to the second EU recipient after Hungary → https://is.gd/gsMOpY | 22:31 |
| de-facto | .title https://www.rki.de/DE/Content/InfAZ/N/Neuartiges_Coronavirus/DESH/Berichte-VOC-tab.html | 22:31 |
| Brainstorm | de-facto: From www.rki.de: RKI - Coronavirus SARS-CoV-2 - Berichte zu Virusvarianten von SARS-CoV-2 in Deutschland, insbesondere zur Variant of Concern (VOC) B.1.1.7 | 22:31 |
| de-facto | https://www.rki.de/DE/Content/InfAZ/N/Neuartiges_Coronavirus/DESH/Bericht_VOC_2021-03-03.pdf?__blob=publicationFile | 22:31 |
| de-facto | In Germany we now have 46.1% of new infections by the B.1.1.7 (UK VOC) SARS-CoV-2 variant | 22:38 |
| de-facto | for week 8 of 2021 | 22:39 |
| Brainstorm | New from WebMD: Houston Has a Problem: All the COVID Variants of Concern: A team of researchers in Houston has sequenced the genomes of coronavirus from 20,400 COVID-19 patients treated at a single health system there, and they've found cases of all the major variants that public health experts say could increase the transmission of the virus or the [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/lvgukj | 22:51 |
| Arsanerit | Are they still going on with the Corona-Gipfel? | 23:03 |
| Brainstorm | New from ScienceNews: People who have had COVID-19 might need only one shot of a coronavirus vaccine: Antibody levels in health care workers who had COVID-19 and got vaccinated were more than 500 times higher than those vaccinated but never infected. → https://is.gd/ZAboFZ | 23:55 |
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