libera/##covid-19/ Thursday, 2021-05-06

BrainstormNew from The Indian Express: World: US backs waiving intellectual property rules on Covid-19 vaccines → https://is.gd/yvZ3nf00:14
BrainstormUpdates for South Africa: +2073 cases (now 1.6 million), +46 deaths (now 54557) since a day ago — Bulgaria: +1635 cases (now 407827), +164 deaths (now 16773) since 22 hours ago — Angola: +245 cases (now 27529), +9 deaths (now 618) since 19 hours ago — Guyana: +173 cases (now 13829), +2 deaths (now 308) since 22 hours ago00:31
BrainstormNew from The Lancet (Online): Mehreen S Datoo, Magloire H Natama, Athanase Somé, Ousmane Traoré, Toussaint Rouamba, Duncan Bellamy, Prisca Yameogo, Daniel Valia, Moubarak Tegneri, Florence Ouedraogo, Rachidatou Soma, Seydou Sawadogo, Faizatou Sorgho, Karim Derra, Eli Rouamba, Benedict Orindi, Fernando Ramos Lopez, Amy Flaxman, Federica Cappuccini, [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/VwlS7I00:35
ryoumaa lot of authors, so must be a great pap...oh, the lancet.  nm.00:35
de-facto"At the 6-month primary efficacy analysis, 43 (29%) of 146 participants in group 1, 38 (26%) of 146 participants in group 2, and 105 (71%) of 147 participants in group 3 developed clinical malaria. Vaccine efficacy was 74% (95% CI 63–82) in group 1 and 77% (67–84) in group 2 at 6 months. At 1 year, vaccine efficacy remained high, at 77% (67–84) in group 1. Participants vaccinated with R21/MM showed high titres of malaria-spe00:45
de-factocific anti-Asn-Ala-Asn-Pro (NANP) antibodies 28 days after the third vaccination, which were almost doubled with the higher adjuvant dose. Titres waned but were boosted to levels similar to peak titres after the primary series of vaccinations after a fourth dose administered 1 year later."00:45
de-factoprotecting 3 out of 4 malaria progressions... oh nm.00:45
de-facto.title https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(21)00943-0/fulltext00:46
Brainstormde-facto: From www.thelancet.com: Efficacy of a low-dose candidate malaria vaccine, R21 in adjuvant Matrix-M, with seasonal administration to children in Burkina Faso: a randomised controlled trial - The Lancet00:46
de-factobtw the same group that developed ADZ-1222 at Oxford afaik00:51
de-facto*AZD122200:52
BrainstormNew from Medical Xpress: Study sheds more light on rate of rare blood clots after Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine: A large study from Denmark and Norway published by The BMJ today sheds more light on the risk of rare blood clots in adults receiving their first dose of the Oxford-AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine. → https://is.gd/fosxdX01:06
BrainstormNew from BMJ: Thromboembolism and the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine: Medicine regulators, health professionals, and the public are anxious to know whether the available vaccines against covid-19 are safe, and in particular whether the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine causes... → https://is.gd/i2LQ9f01:26
BrainstormUpdates for Cyprus: +562 cases (now 67982), +1 deaths (now 327) since 22 hours ago — Trinidad and Tobago: +399 cases (now 12105), +4 deaths (now 189) since a day ago01:40
BrainstormNew from Shane Crotty: @profshanecrotty: R to @profshanecrotty: Is the variant protection all antibodies, or antibodies plus T cells, or mostly T cells? Undetermined. → https://is.gd/KkZ54M01:46
de-facto.title https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc210497401:51
Brainstormde-facto: From www.nejm.org: Effectiveness of the BNT162b2 Covid-19 Vaccine against the B.1.1.7 and B.1.351 Variants | NEJM01:51
de-facto.tell LjL https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc210497401:51
Brainstormde-facto, I'll pass LjL your message when they are around.01:51
dTal.tell dTal he's handsome01:57
BrainstormdTal, I'll pass DTal aka dTal your message when they are around.01:57
dTalyay01:58
* dTal coughs politely01:58
iphony.tell dtal dTal, I'll pass DTal aka dTal your message when they are around.01:59
Brainstormiphony, I'll pass DTal aka dTal your message when they are around.01:59
dTal:<02:00
BrainstormUpdates for Guadeloupe: +726 cases (now 15360) since 2 days ago — French Guiana: +196 cases (now 20078) since 23 hours ago — Mayotte: +40 cases (now 20134) since 3 days ago02:05
BrainstormNew from Shane Crotty: @profshanecrotty: R to @profshanecrotty: Moderna did both a 'regular' boost, or a boost with a B.1.351 specific vaccine."Following boost,... titers...against the wild-type, B.1.351, and P.1 variants increased to levels similar to or higher than the previously reported peak titers ..." → https://is.gd/g6f3X102:17
BrainstormUpdates for Netherlands: +7520 cases (now 1.5 million), +28 deaths (now 17360) since 23 hours ago — Uruguay: +2921 cases (now 209867), +57 deaths (now 2918) since 23 hours ago — United Kingdom: +2057 cases (now 4.4 million), +16 deaths (now 127687) since 23 hours ago — Sudan: +185 cases (now 33831) since 23 hours ago02:30
BrainstormNew from Derek Lowe: @Dereklowe: Meanwhile, I am not going to link to Tucker Carlson or even to the infuriating video of him. But he's out there tonight spreading still more destructive lies about the coronavirus vaccines. For money. For fame. For power. For fun. → https://is.gd/GsJXXj02:48
LjLde-facto, nice, these seem like very comforting results when compared with the data from AZ02:51
BrainstormLjL: At 2021-05-05 23:51:46 UTC, de-facto told you: https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc210497402:51
LjLnow if my family members *had got it* instead of AZ, i would also actually be comforted02:51
LjL75% efficacy with a CI lower bound of 70% is a lot of efficacy compared with 22% with CI lower bound of -40% or whatever it was02:52
BrainstormNew from Derek Lowe: @Dereklowe: For God’s sake. You’d get more useful perspectives on anything related to vaccination if you threw some pea gravel in a clothes dryer and listened to that instead. → https://is.gd/XLyXcG03:19
ryoumawho is this writer?03:21
ryoumawhat is he known for?03:21
LjLhe is the author of the In The Pipeline blog that the bot (as well as several people here) have been reporting from for... since the beginning pretty much. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derek_Lowe_(chemist) will tell you what he's known for03:22
-RSSBot[LjLmatrix- Recent Commits to links:master: Add Pfizer/BNT effectiveness results against variants in Qatar study ( https://github.com/ljl-covid/links/commit/ef42949eacc32383d5d4ad94f4af6a71c3b7f93f )03:25
CoronaBot/r/coronavirus: US parents excited over prospect of virus shots for children (10006 votes) | https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-lifestyle-coronavirus-vaccine-education-health-868b5ee6ad28bb42aee3f06324937384 | https://redd.it/n5d6vt03:28
BrainstormNew from https://covid19.specops.network : ljl-covid: Add Pfizer/BNT effectiveness results against variants in Qatar study → https://is.gd/fY2HjJ03:29
BrainstormUpdates for Egypt: +1102 cases (now 232905), +64 deaths (now 13655) since a day ago — Panama: +356 cases (now 365975), +4 deaths (now 6252) since 23 hours ago — Turks and Caicos: +4 cases (now 2400) since 23 hours ago03:32
finely[m]<Brainstorm "New from StatNews: U.S. will bac"> Amazing news! Still, the lobbyists only need to get one country to veto this.03:38
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: The leader of the world's biggest vaccine manufacturer said he fled India because of menacing threats → https://is.gd/BNBR3m03:50
CoronaBot/r/covid19: Moderna Announces Positive Initial Booster Data Against SARS-CoV-2 Variants of Concern (83 votes) | https://investors.modernatx.com/news-releases/news-release-details/moderna-announces-positive-initial-booster-data-against-sars-cov | https://redd.it/n5p7de03:52
finely[m]Good news everyone! Thanks to decades of publicly funded basic research, mRNA vaccine technology can make enough vaccine for everyone on earth.03:55
finely[m]https://aiche.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/amp2.1006003:55
* finely[m] < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/oCFPlZsUbdZrcvuVbgZMamed/message.txt >03:57
BrainstormUpdates for Mauritania: +39 cases (now 18542), +1 deaths (now 456) since 23 hours ago04:09
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: The US has thrown its support behind an initiative at the World Trade Organization (WTO) to waive intellectual property protections for coronavirus vaccines. → https://is.gd/1k0RLD05:12
ryoumai hope this is not a pre-planned theater to have it not work out at the end so that nobody tries again05:12
LjLi don't understand why the whole WTO needs to be on board in the first place05:15
LjLit's a rather unprecedented emergency, fuck process05:16
BrainstormUpdates for Paraguay: +2307 cases (now 288974), +76 deaths (now 6798) since a day ago05:36
BrainstormUpdates for Belgium: +4119 cases (now 1.0 million), +39 deaths (now 24406) since 23 hours ago06:01
BrainstormNew from The Indian Express: World: US supplies of vaccine components to India to enable manufacturing of two crore doses of Covishield → https://is.gd/urCJz806:03
BrainstormNew from This Week In Virology: TWiV 751: Sputnik spat and furin in ferrets: TWiV examines the claim by Brazil’s ANVISA that the Sputnik vaccine contains replication-competent adenovirus, and a role for the furin cleavage site in SARS-CoV-2 spike for efficient reproduction in the respiratory tract, evasion of antiviral IFITM proteins, and [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/xdMFsU06:14
BrainstormNew from EurekAlert!: We need to build more EV fast-charging stations, researchers say: A team of engineers recommends expanding fast-charging stations for electric vehicles as campuses and businesses start planning for a post-pandemic world. The recommendation is based on a study of charging patterns for electric vehicles on the University of [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/HZVSLp06:24
BrainstormUpdates for Germany: +15131 cases (now 3.5 million), +55 deaths (now 84340) since 23 hours ago06:38
BrainstormNew from The Indian Express: World: Denmark, Norway study finds slightly raised blood clot rates after Astra COVID shot → https://is.gd/LmnIMA06:55
BrainstormNew from Science-Based Medicine: COVID vaccine manufacturers should explore legal action against anti-vaxxers spreading disinformation: Perhaps it's time for vaccine manufacturers to consider defamation suits against anti-vaxxers who spread false information about COVID vaccines. Lawsuits by voting technology companies against Fox and others over false [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/A1BPUs07:06
finely[m]For $156m up front capital and $780m a year vaccines could be made for everyone on earth.07:09
finely[m]0.000009% of world GDP a year.07:09
finely[m] Once COVID is under control, this new mRNA capacity could be used on other diseases.07:09
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: COVID-19: Japanese town Noto spends coronavirus relief funding on giant squid statue to boost tourism → https://is.gd/z8veFB07:27
BrainstormUpdates for Minas Gerais, Brazil: +9264 cases (now 1.4 million), +441 deaths (now 34837) since a day ago — Rio de Janeiro, Brazil: +7484 cases (now 761216), +349 deaths (now 45581) since a day ago — Rio Grande do Norte, Brazil: +7014 cases (now 1.2 million), +160 deaths (now 31124) since a day ago [... want %more?]07:40
BrainstormUpdates for Bolivia: +1835 cases (now 312407), +41 deaths (now 13123) since 13 hours ago08:05
BrainstormNew from The Indian Express: World: COVID curbs reinstated in Sydney as Australian officials trace mystery case → https://is.gd/25aoAQ08:18
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: China is ‘invincible’ despite world being in turmoil, Xi Jinping tells Communist Party. “We can clearly see who has done better” in the pandemic, he said → https://is.gd/kMa4jy08:39
BrainstormUpdates for India: +412262 cases (now 21.1 million), +5063 deaths (now 230168) since 18 hours ago — Uzbekistan: +452 cases (now 93176), +2 deaths (now 657) since 23 hours ago — Mongolia: +940 cases (now 42464), +12 deaths (now 142) since a day ago09:07
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Daily Discussion Thread | May 06, 2021: Please refer to our Wiki for more information on COVID-19 and our sub. You can find answers to frequently asked questions in our FAQ , where there is valuable information such as our: → https://is.gd/NvS38y09:11
BrainstormNew from BMJ: Covid-19: Sputnik vaccine rockets, thanks to Lancet boost: In August 2020 President Vladimir Putin announced Sputnik V, a vaccine developed by Russia’s Gamaleya National Center of Epidemiology and Microbiology. The president’s claim that it had gone through... → https://is.gd/dJN43O09:21
BrainstormNew from The Indian Express: World: COVID-19: Sri Lanka bans travellers from India with immediate effect → https://is.gd/bfX8GY09:32
BrainstormNew from Medical Xpress: First nation-wide data shows 2 doses of Pfizer vaccine highly effective against COVID infection, hospitalization, death: Two doses of the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine provide more than 95% protection against infection, hospitalisation, severe illness, and death, including among the elderly, according to the first [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/Bu1frp09:42
BlankspaceHi09:47
de-factoHi Blankspace09:48
CoronaBot/r/coronavirus: The Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine is incredibly effective against severe disease caused by two variants, study says. (10019 votes) | https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/05/science/pfizer-vaccine-variants-covid.html | https://redd.it/n5rtmu09:49
BlankspaceHi defacto09:49
BlankspaceI think I've lost my smelling ability09:49
BlankspaceHow do I check09:49
de-factohmm not sure if there is a standard test for that, i guess smell different things and compare to memory?09:50
BlankspaceAre you doctor09:51
de-factono i have other background in non-medical science09:53
BlankspaceIs CT scan harmful09:54
de-factoit exposes to some radiation dose, but only one scan is not considered harmful as far as i know, cells can repair that themselves09:56
de-facto[m]Chest scan is about 7mSv equivalent to two years of average background radiation10:01
de-facto[m]Adults can tolerate that more easily than children10:03
BrainstormUpdates for Lithuania: +1392 cases (now 254091), +7 deaths (now 4000) since 23 hours ago — Saint Lucia: +17 cases (now 4602), +1 deaths (now 75) since 23 hours ago — Taiwan: +13 cases (now 1173) since a day ago10:10
BrainstormNew from The Indian Express: World: Australia’s Covid-19 travel  ban on citizens returning home from India challenged in court → https://is.gd/y3HKvW10:34
BrainstormUpdates for Maharashtra, India: +57640 cases (now 4.9 million), +920 deaths (now 72662) since 23 hours ago — Karnataka, India: +50112 cases (now 1.7 million), +346 deaths (now 16884) since 23 hours ago — Kerala, India: +41953 cases (now 1.7 million), +58 deaths (now 5565) since 23 hours ago [... want %more?]10:34
BrainstormNew from StatNews: Opinion: Dollar stores: gateways to equitable Covid-19 vaccine distribution: Partnering with dollar store chains whose business models involve operating in lower-income areas could provide a jumpstart to reaching people who want to get Covid-19 vaccines but haven't been able… → https://is.gd/TA4vcD10:55
BrainstormNew from EMA: What's new: Medicine: Human medicines European public assessment report (EPAR): Aflunov, zoonotic influenza vaccine (H5N1) (surface antigen, inactivated, adjuvanted), Influenza, Human,Immunization,Disease Outbreaks, Date of authorisation: 28/11/2010, Revision: 13, Status: Authorised → https://is.gd/0FQJY711:16
CoronaBot/r/covid19: Delayed production of neutralizing antibodies correlates with fatal COVID-19 (81 votes) | https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-021-01355-0 | https://redd.it/n5nr3111:25
BrainstormNew from Emma Hodcroft: @firefoxx66: Fascinating work coming out of @fredhutch from scientists I'm honoured to know & work with!@nicfelm @wcassias @pavitrarc Jover Lee @LouiseHMoncla @databae_ @misja_ilcisin @trs @trvrb!Highlights the importance of mobility & human behaviour in #SARSCoV2 transmission & spread! → https://is.gd/LGQwqK11:27
BrainstormUpdates for Poland: +6427 cases (now 2.8 million), +511 deaths (now 68993) since a day ago — Singapore: +18 cases (now 61286) since 23 hours ago11:37
BrainstormNew from Medical Xpress: The WTO waiver battle over Covid jab IP rights: Sudden US backing for a global waiver on patent protections for COVID-19 vaccines offers hope to poor nations struggling for doses—but the big pharma industry thinks the notion misguided. → https://is.gd/D9zaRA12:10
BrainstormUpdates for Finland: +280 cases (now 88078) since 23 hours ago12:39
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: US backs waiver on intellectual property rights for COVID-19 vaccines → https://is.gd/W0z3MO12:52
BrainstormUpdates for Romania: +1632 cases (now 1.1 million), +94 deaths (now 28710) since a day ago13:04
BrainstormNew from The Indian Express (Health): Health: Steep rise in number of post-Covid patients with hair loss: Doctors → https://is.gd/6Ni0rK13:13
BrainstormUpdates for Indonesia: +5647 cases (now 1.7 million), +147 deaths (now 46496) since a day ago — Latvia: +773 cases (now 121509), +12 deaths (now 2178) since a day ago — Papua New Guinea: +357 cases (now 11630) since 2 days ago — Puerto Rico: +11 deaths (now 2348) since a day ago13:41
BrainstormNew from Derek Lowe: @matthewherper: RT by @Dereklowe: Waiver of patent rights on Covid vaccines may be mostly symbolic, for nowFrom ⁦@damiangarde⁩, ⁦@HelenBranswell⁩ and me. https://www.statnews.com/2021/05/06/waiver-of-patent-rights-on-covid-19-vaccines-in-near-term-may-be-more-symbolic-than-substantive/https://is.gd/n32RZR14:05
BrainstormUpdates for Belarus: +1219 cases (now 364951), +10 deaths (now 2602) since 23 hours ago — Laos: +105 cases (now 1177) since a day ago14:06
BrainstormNew from Virology.ws: Early Immune Responses to Herpes Simplex Virus Type I Infection: Early interactions of herpes simplex virus type 1 with the immune system involve both Langerhans cells and a newly characterized dendritic cell. Understanding the dynamics of these initial interactions of the virus with cells of the immune system may result in better [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/YL7O7J14:15
BrainstormNew from Medical Xpress: How do we actually investigate rare COVID-19 vaccine side-effects?: Investigations are under way to determine whether the deaths of two people in New South Wales who developed blood clots are linked to the AstraZeneca vaccine. → https://is.gd/zYlqlF14:47
BrainstormUpdates for Denmark: +1012 cases (now 256482), +1 deaths (now 2493) since 23 hours ago15:08
BrainstormNew from EMA: What's new: Medicine: Veterinary medicines European public assessment report (EPAR): Prevexxion RN, Marek's disease vaccine (live recombinant), Date of authorisation: 20/07/2020, Status: Authorised → https://is.gd/rvjxeO15:08
BrainstormNew from NPR: New Zealand Pauses 'Travel Bubble' With Australia Amid Coronavirus Outbreak In Sydney: Less than three weeks after launching quarantine-free travel between the two countries, New Zealand is temporarily suspending flights from Australia after new cases were found there. → https://is.gd/idph9e15:19
BrainstormUpdates for Nepal: +8970 cases (now 368580), +54 deaths (now 3529) since a day ago — Switzerland: +1687 cases (now 669067), +11 deaths (now 10694) since 18 hours ago15:33
BrainstormNew from The Indian Express: World: Russia authorises single-dose Sputnik Light COVID vaccine for use → https://is.gd/a79mnd15:40
rpifany16:11
BrainstormUpdates for Zambia: +97 cases (now 91946), +1 deaths (now 1256) since 23 hours ago16:11
-RSSBot[LjLmatrix- Feed: Dichiarazione del Presidente del Consiglio Mario Draghi ( https://www.governo.it/it/articolo/dichiarazione-del-presidente-del-consiglio-mario-draghi/16788 )16:19
CoronaBot/r/covid19: Researchers Tie Severe Immunosuppression to Chronic COVID-19 and Virus Variants (82 votes) | https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2779850?utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=content-shareicons&utm_content=article_engagement&utm_medium=social&utm_term=050521#.YJM4kz9cbTc.twitter | https://redd.it/n5yeop16:27
BrainstormUpdates for Iraq: +6233 cases (now 1.1 million), +33 deaths (now 15673) since 23 hours ago — Saudi Arabia: +1090 cases (now 423406), +14 deaths (now 7032) since 21 hours ago — Germany: +71 deaths (now 84356) since 23 hours ago16:35
BrainstormNew from The Indian Express: World: How the world reacted to US backing patent rules waiver on Covid vaccines → https://is.gd/xc2FBV16:45
BrainstormNew from Medical Xpress: Comparison of COVID-19 response in 113 countries finds poorer nations most harmed by lockdown approach: As the COVID-19 pandemic took hold of the world last spring, many nations enacted similar lockdown policies intended to restrict movement and halt transmission—yet some countries fared far better than others. → https://is.gd/4Q2lDy16:56
BrainstormNew from ClinicalTrials.gov: (news): tDCS for Post COVID-19 Fatigue → https://is.gd/txzHYh17:07
BrainstormNew from ClinicalTrials.gov: (news): Clinical Characteristics of Deceased With COVID-19 → https://is.gd/NSM4WH17:32
BrainstormNew from ClinicalTrials.gov: (news): Seroprevalence of the Anti-SARS-CoV-2 Antibodies in Kidney Transplant Recipients in Severely Affected Region → https://is.gd/1ZgZxx17:44
-RSSBot[LjLmatrix- Recent Commits to links:master: Add Moderna press release about variant vaccine Phase 2 results ( https://github.com/ljl-covid/links/commit/e3f01a1521e79428f6f7b81b24e76022f3e6eaa7 )17:45
LjL<Brainstorm> New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Turks feel belittled after Turkish FM says Ankara will vaccinate 'anyone that tourists can see' → https://is.gd/y1vikG17:47
BrainstormNew from LitCovid: (news): Can nutraceuticals assist treatment and improve covid-19 symptoms? → https://is.gd/ATIQXA18:06
BrainstormNew from Derek Lowe: @rvenkayya: RT by @Dereklowe: It was good to discuss this with @HelenBranswell. Patents aren't a constraint to access. These things are:🔹Lack of capacity at originators to support more tech transfers;🔹Partners w/proven global vaccine manufacturing experience; and🔹Raw material/component shortages. 1/ → https://is.gd/m2oAPj18:28
BrainstormNew from BBC Health: (news): Covid-19: Complaints after England booking site reveals vaccine status → https://is.gd/f9Rs8319:01
CoronaBot/r/covid19: Arterial events, venous thromboembolism, thrombocytopenia, and bleeding after vaccination with Oxford-AstraZeneca ChAdOx1-S in Denmark and Norway: population based cohort study (83 votes) | https://www.bmj.com/content/373/bmj.n1114 | https://redd.it/n5zrnu19:04
BrainstormNew from Medical Xpress: Patents not 'limiting factor' for vaccine production: BioNTech: German firm BioNTech said Thursday that patent protection for COVID-19 vaccines is not holding back production or supply of the jabs that it developed with Pfizer. → https://is.gd/w2rQqI19:23
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Introducing user flairs to show off your vaccination status! Bring your "I got my vaccine" sticker game to r/Coronavirus with these new user flairs!: Hello, r/Coronavirus community! We've decided to test out a new feature for the subreddit to help users spread the word about getting vaccinated against COVID-19. Just like those [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/wHxHva19:33
BrainstormNew from StatNews: Pharma: STAT+: The U.S. opened pandora’s box on IP waivers for Covid-19 vaccines. What happens now? → https://is.gd/ln3JdD19:43
BrainstormNew from Medical Xpress: COVID-19 vaccine delivery by age may mitigate deaths and severe health impacts: Strategic vaccine delivery is critical to reducing COVID-19 transmission, mortality and long-term health impacts. A study published in PLOS Computational Biology by Sam Moore, Matt Keeling and colleagues at University of Warwick, United Kingdom [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/83SHwr20:05
BrainstormUpdates for Italy: +11798 cases (now 4.1 million), +258 deaths (now 122263) since a day ago — Chile: +6299 cases (now 1.2 million), +169 deaths (now 26895) since a day ago — Greece: +3418 cases (now 355445), +83 deaths (now 10847) since a day ago — Cuba: +1060 cases (now 112714), +7 deaths (now 701) since a day ago20:07
BrainstormUpdates for Dominican Rep.: +623 cases (now 269184), +5 deaths (now 3514) since a day ago — Spain: +7960 cases (now 3.6 million), +160 deaths (now 78726) since a day ago — Burundi: +24 cases (now 4093) since a day ago — France: +155 deaths (now 105758) since 23 hours ago20:32
BrainstormNew from Medical Xpress: 'Back to life' on cafe terraces still a tiny COVID risk: experts: A return to enjoying drinks with friends on a cafe terrace, so eagerly anticipated after seemingly interminable closures because of the COVID-19 pandemic, still poses a relatively small risk of contagion, experts warn, suggesting a variety of safeguards. → https://is.gd/Zvcp8R20:37
ArsaneritI am happy. because I have two appointments for a vaccination against Coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID 19).20:38
de-factoArsanerit, congratz :)20:39
de-factoeat extra healthy and ensure regular sleep, completely cancel any alcohol or anything that may keep the liver busy20:41
de-factoalso maybe take broad spectrum supplements in order to reduce probability of any unknown deficiency20:42
ArsaneritDoes eating extra healthy and getting regular sleep improve the effectivity of the vaccine?  The appointment is on a Sunday morning at 08:00.  Normally I'm still sleeping at that time, so getting plenty of sleep may be a challenge.20:42
ArsaneritI sleep regularly on most nights, though.20:42
de-factoyes i think i read that insomnia can reduce efficiency by quite some two digit percentages in some cases20:42
de-factothe better the condition of your body when you receive the vaccine the more immunity will develop (at least in a probabilistic model)20:43
de-factoalcohol or anything causing free radicals may be very harmful20:44
de-factoto the immunity developing i mean20:44
de-facto.title https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanres/article/PIIS2213-2600(21)00126-0/fulltext20:47
Brainstormde-facto: From www.thelancet.com: The Lancet | The best science for better lives20:47
de-facto"For instance, 10 days after vaccination against the seasonal influenza virus (1996–97), IgG antibody titres in individuals who were immunised after four consecutive nights of sleep restricted to 4 h were less than half of those measured in individuals without such sleep deficits."20:48
de-factothats quite a lot i gues20:48
de-facto*I guess20:48
de-facto"Since the immune system exhibits marked circadian rhythmicity, the timing of vaccination might also affect the immune response to COVID-19 vaccines. For instance, one study found that administering hepatitis A and influenza vaccines in the morning instead of the afternoon results in an almost twofold higher antibody titre 4 weeks later, an effect only seen in men. Thus, it is possible that administering COVID-19 vaccines in the morning20:51
de-factomight result in higher antibody titres."20:51
de-factothats interesting i did not know that yet20:51
de-factonote their conditional tense though, its a conjecture20:52
de-factonot sure about sports, i guess one should not do anything more than regular?20:53
de-factomaybe less if exhausted and sleep more?20:54
de-factowould be interesting to hear the opinion of an immunologist about this20:54
de-factoand food is self explanatory, any deficit could restrict immune system cells to do what their function is supposed to contribute to developing long lasting high levels of immunity20:56
de-factoArsanerit, then go to bed early and wake up tomorrow already at same time as you would have to on Sunday20:57
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generaeat more, no sports, get out of bed late; anything else i have to do to be healthy? :-)21:06
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Arsaneritde-facto: My appointment is in ten days, not this Sunday.  But thanks for the hint, I'll make sure I get enough sleep.  I usually get 7 hours.21:13
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: In shock move, US backs waiving patents on COVID vaccines → https://is.gd/S1W99o21:19
ArsaneritWhy isn't the vaccination centre giving me the advice you are giving me?21:21
de-factoits not only enough sleep its also the regular periodicity as metabolism profits from always the same time pattern, so if you have 10 days you perfectly can adjust it to that timeslot there21:22
ArsaneritYes, I can.  It's not radically earlier than I'm used to on weekdays.21:22
de-factoi am not sure if its established consensus yet, but i think it would not hurt to assume there are such effects21:23
de-factoit its in 10 days maybe you even could go to pharmacy and buy something like zentrum a-z21:24
ArsaneritIt can never hurt to eat and sleep well, and I never drink alcohol anywa.y21:24
de-factoperfect than you probably already are in good shape21:24
ArsaneritI'm not sure about taking supplements based on either advice on IRC or self-medication online, but I do intend to continue eating well and continuing my regular sleep pattern.  I usually sleep around 00:30 - 07:30, I can make that 23:30 - 07:00 the nights before I get the vaccine.21:26
de-factoyup sounds like a plan, i just was mentioning it as option of course21:27
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Germany rejects US push to waive COVID vaccine patents: The German government said while they support global vaccine supplies, "the protection of intellectual property is a source of innovation and must remain so in the future." → https://is.gd/rwBmZE21:30
rpifangermany is a shit hole nation21:40
rpifanconstantly proved itself to be21:40
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Covid-Induced "Black Fungus" Cases Reported In Delhi Hospital → https://is.gd/t00Brz21:41
rpifanomg21:42
rpifanits really turning into the rain21:42
BrainstormNew from WebMD: Survey: Parents to Wait to Get Kids’ COVID Vaccine: Three-quarters of parents don’t plan to vaccinate their kids against COVID-19 when the FDA gives the go-ahead for younger children, according to a new survey. → https://is.gd/j303ql21:51
de-factoexcept the source of innovation is publicly funded research at universities etc21:56
de-factobut yeah, whatever increases vaccine production rates MUST be done IMMEDIATELY21:56
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ryoumai would be cautious about circadian effects.  there is variation, such as night owls and morning larks.  you might be fighting your natural rhythm.  there are also non-24h, phase delay, reversed phase, hypersomnia, sleep-onset latency, nocturia, and more.  imo there need to be blood tests and also studies.23:07
LjL<CarlSagan> [Ars Technica - Science] 9,000 fliers may have had reused swabs jammed up their noses in Indonesia https://arstechnica.com/?p=1763266 2021-05-06T20:10:0123:08
ryoumathere are also many different circadian processes in the body.  some might be advanced while others delayed.  for a given purpose you might need different ests.23:09
BrainstormNew from CIDRAP: Global Fund fast tracks $75 million for India's COVID battle: Lisa Schnirring | News Editor | CIDRAP News May 06, 2021 In other developments, mixed reactions swirled on the proposed IP vaccine waiver and more Asian countries took steps to battle virus spread. → https://is.gd/IJgSo623:14
de-factohow about no passenger flights at all? how about no tests and mandatory masks and absolutely strict quarantine?23:21
de-factoIndoAnon, https://arstechnica.com/?p=176326623:24
LjLhow about you stop repeating that unless there happens to be an EU MEP or an airline executive in here?23:28
LjLljl@ljlbox:~/.znc/users/ljl/moddata/log$ grep "<de-facto" freenode/*covid-19*/202* | grep "absolute\(ly\)\? strict.*" | wc -l23:30
LjL1623:30
IndoAnonde-facto: That...23:32
IndoAnonIs a better way handling this than passenger flight and mass testing23:32
IndoAnonI can attest that mass testing is problematic during 60-80% peak23:33
ryoumaif the ip outcome is different from what the us claims to want, i'd like to see investigative reporters find out if it was theater with pre-determined outcome23:33
IndoAnonToo much people, not much of space23:34
IndoAnonhmm, and i have to call my fren about that..23:35
IndoAnonkimia farma23:35
ArsaneritHow would a waiver be decided?  Does there need to be unanimity, or can Germany be overruled?  There are elections coming up in Germany and the conservative party wants/needs backing from its friends in industry.23:36
IndoAnonall the big party is rotten to the core23:37
IndoAnonYou can't rely on legislative branch to make sensible choice...23:38
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rpifanwell thats always how germany has been23:39
rpifanbig corporaticracy23:39
rpifanthe more i learn the less i like it23:39
IndoAnonde-facto: It's truly scandalous. We more or less trust corp. with a face... But, people won't trust them from now on for testing23:40
rpifanwell do you think the greens have any chance?23:41
IndoAnonYeah, i think all the german on the net that I have met, from far right to far left, detest merkel23:41
LjLit isn't *only* far right and far left bt any chance?23:42
LjL(not even sure anything else exists these days)23:42
ryoumathe us in practice has 2 parties.  does germany do it like that or do the bigger parties have to form coalitions with less popular parties?23:43
LjLthere are coalitions23:43
ryoumadoes that reduce extremism?23:44
LjLi dunno23:44
ryouma(r increazs it)23:44
LjLi think the US system reduces actual choice23:44
LjLthat difference may be orthogonal to extremism23:44
LjLor related in a way i'm not sure of23:44
IndoAnonLjL: Yes, from those antifa, to hippie archtype, to regular dudes, to those on /pol/23:44
de-factoyeah with recycling cotton swabs they not only endanger those that were negative and tested, also a lot of people wont trust testing23:45
de-factothis is causing a lot of damage, i hope they are treated accordingly23:45
BrainstormNew from CIDRAP: Three vaccines show promise against COVID variants: Mary Van Beusekom | News Writer | CIDRAP News May 06, 2021 The vaccines show either effectiveness or a strong immune response against variants of concern. → https://is.gd/511mDf23:46
IndoAnonye, they're fucking insane. unless they're dipping that in alcohol for >5 minutes... I'm not sure it would be safe to re-use23:46
ArsaneritThe far left is tiny in Germany.23:47
de-factopeople will be scared getting tested and wont trust positive results, can you imagine any more damage they could casue?23:47
rpifanall i can tell you is germany is a total failure23:47
rpifandespite what you may think23:47
de-factothat is outright criminal of them, actually maybe even beyond, they are saboteurs23:47
IndoAnonDo anyone remember about Sweden scandal? where all the lab give negative results?23:47
ArsaneritWhat would "beyond criminal" be?23:47
ArsaneritI emigrated to Germany twice.  I like it here.23:48
de-factowhat i meant is that their personal profit is the most irrelevant thing about all of this23:48
IndoAnons/all the lab give/ the lab give all23:48
IndoAnonConcessions23:48
rpifanyou must be in a very small niche of societ then23:48
ArsaneritThe houses are warm, bright, and relatively affordable.  There is plenty of forest and public administration is bureaucratic, but not a total mess.23:49
rpifanid say that opposite23:49
ArsaneritThe infrastructure is pretty good and train tickets are cheap.23:49
IndoAnonThe food is cheap, yeah... but other stuff? so-so23:49
ArsaneritMy rent here is only €10/m²/month and for that I'm right in the centre of a city.23:50
ArsaneritYet due to compact housing, I'm only 1 km from the forest.23:50
ArsaneritThe forests are some of the best managed in the world (although struggling with climate change and other problems).23:50
ArsaneritThe politics is not run by childish loonies.23:51
ArsaneritI don't agree with Merkel politically, but I think she is generally quite competent.23:51
LjLunless it's somewhat directly related to COVID, can we keep "this country is absolute trash" sort of stuff to, i dunno, ##coronavirus-vox if it's welcomed there, or elsewhere?23:52
ArsaneritI will stop now.23:52
IndoAnonBefore that, I still think that total lockdown has terrific long-term disadvantages...23:53
ryoumait is relevant to long covid that the germans have policies against certain disease populations and that could transfer over to long covid.  and the history of those policies is potentially ... something germany has been known for.23:53
ryoumait can depend on teh state but also the medical association23:54
IndoAnonWell, maybe they should reason why curfew is beneficial...23:56
rpifani wish we had a longer lockdwon23:56
rpifanspeaking of which has the curfew been working?23:56
rpifanr our numbers down?23:56
IndoAnoni think it lower the infection a bit, but not by much23:57
LjLryouma, yes, i'm sure anything political can *somehow* be tied to COVID, but i just don't think i'm comfortable with blanket-bashing of countries23:57
ArsaneritGerman numbers are going down.23:57
ryoumaLjL: is what i said on topic or off topic23:58
ryoumawhat i said was not meant to amplify or be related to the other comments23:59
LjLthere is no hard line on what's on-topic in this channel but if you really need to know what bothered me it was a couple of comments by rpifan which sort of spawned this discussion23:59

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