| Brainstorm | New from ScienceNews: Pfizer’s COVID-19 vaccine is OK for kids 12 to 15 years old, FDA says: With the vaccine cleared for high schoolers and many middle schoolers, focus now turns to clinical trials testing COVID-19 vaccines in younger kids. → https://is.gd/lmP6va | 00:18 |
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| pwr22 | LjL: looks like Boris is starting up with his old ways. We are dropping masks in school classrooms which is against the scientific advisory he was given | 00:21 |
| pwr22 | LjL: which one is B.1.351 again? | 00:22 |
| LjL | pwr22, South Africa | 00:23 |
| de-facto | the south african evasive mutant | 00:23 |
| LjL | it's the only one so far that has very clear evidence of reduced vaccine activity | 00:23 |
| pwr22 | Ah ok, is there good data showing Pfizer clearly works better for that then? | 00:23 |
| LjL | (i bet some of the Brazilian and Indian lineages also do, but that's too much of a mess right now to find out) | 00:23 |
| pwr22 | I've yet to have my second jab and it's possible I might be able to get a Pfizer rather than an AZ given my age group and risk factors | 00:24 |
| LjL | pwr22, yes, latest study says it maintaines 75% efficacy (vs 22% or less with AZ) and 97% prevention of severe cases | 00:24 |
| LjL | which is less than 95%, for sure, but still a good result | 00:24 |
| LjL | pwr22, i can't take the responsibility of telling people what vaccine to take, obviously | 00:24 |
| LjL | but i'll say if i get offered AZ, at this point, i'll laugh and say "okay, see you when you have some Pfizer" | 00:25 |
| LjL | pwr22, if you want to see the study i think it's the last link or the one before the last in the pfizer section of the topic page | 00:27 |
| LjL | %links pfizer 75% | 00:27 |
| Brainstorm | LjL, https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2104974 (Effectiveness of the BNT162b2 Covid-19 Vaccine against the B.1.1.7 and B.1.351 Variants) shows that in Quatar, where vaccination with Pfizer/BioNTech is at an advanced state, most cases of COVID since March 2021 have been either B.1.1.7 (UK variant) or B.1.351 (South African variant), and the effectiveness against B.1.1.7 is [... want %more?] | 00:27 |
| LjL | uhm, it's not spelled Quatar though | 00:27 |
| LjL | %wik Qatar | 00:27 |
| Brainstorm | LjL, from English Wikipedia: Qatar (/ˈkætɑːr/,[10] /ˈkɑːtɑːr/ (listen), /ˈkɑːtər/ or /kəˈtɑːr/ (listen);[11] Arabic: قطر Qaṭar [ˈqatˤar]; local vernacular pronunciation: [ˈɡɪtˤɑr]),[12][13] officially the State of Qatar (Arabic: دولة قطر Dawlat Qaṭar), is a country located in Western Asia, [... want %more?] → https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qatar | 00:27 |
| LjL | but i think this is the first time %links actually gives me the thing i wanted | 00:27 |
| LjL | so yay | 00:28 |
| pwr22 | ha ha | 00:30 |
| pwr22 | Thanks for the link | 00:30 |
| pwr22 | Will take a look | 00:30 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Switzerland: +5 deaths (now 10715) since 9 hours ago | 00:30 |
| -RSSBot[LjLmatrix- Recent Commits to links:master: Correct spelling ( https://github.com/ljl-covid/links/commit/6f2ef037b6148a8a77be570387cd9b1d2ab6b5ac ) | 00:33 | |
| Brainstorm | New from https://covid19.specops.network : ljl-covid: Correct spelling → https://is.gd/JUZo37 | 00:40 |
| Brainstorm | New from WebMD: FDA Authorizes Pfizer COVID Vaccine for Kids 12-15: This is the first COVID-19 vaccine in the U.S. authorized for use in younger teens and adolescents. In late March, Pfizer released results from a study that showed high antibody responses and 100% effectiveness against COVID-19. → https://is.gd/AqgzOq | 01:34 |
| CoronaBot | /r/covid19: Just 2% of SARS-CoV-2−positive individuals carry 90% of the virus circulating in communities (80 votes) | https://www.pnas.org/content/118/21/e2104547118 | https://redd.it/n9f4wi | 01:40 |
| pwr22 | LjL de-facto : any good studies on mixing different types of vaccine? I know we're doing trials in the UK but no results yet afaik | 01:43 |
| LjL | pwr22, i haven't seen any results yet either | 01:43 |
| LjL | but all the vaccines we're using around these parts are based on injecting or producing the S-protein | 01:44 |
| LjL | so i'm quite hopeful that they will be "compatible" | 01:44 |
| de-facto | i think they are discussing such studies right now, because here in Germany its the same, AZ->BNT and no approved trials for that | 01:44 |
| LjL | of course hope is one thing, a successful clinical trial is another :P | 01:44 |
| de-facto | i am stubborn and insist on sticking to evidence based medicine, e.g. the approved trial schemes, but that does not mean that mixed vaccine schemes are a bad thing, on the contrary they might even be a good thing and might have some advantages, yet i am just as curious as you are about trials for that | 01:46 |
| de-facto | my speculative guessing would be that AZ->BNT works just fine | 01:47 |
| de-facto | the thing is that mixing the shots might lead to some level of unknown immunity, e.g. how to know the level of protection and how long it lasts? (probably fine, but how do we know?) | 01:49 |
| de-facto | i think thats also why WHO is against doing that | 01:49 |
| de-facto | yet all this will probably become much more common, especially when first update shots are needed, e.g. since immunity also develops against the Adenovirus vectors those updates would have to be done with another platform anyhow | 01:51 |
| de-facto | .title https://www.nihr.ac.uk/news/worlds-first-covid-19-vaccine-alternating-dose-study-launches-in-uk/26773 | 01:52 |
| Brainstorm | de-facto: From www.nihr.ac.uk: World's first COVID-19 vaccine alternating dose study launches in UK | 01:52 |
| LjL | "Zero coronavirus deaths have been announced in England, Scotland and Northern Ireland on Monday." | 01:56 |
| LjL | (if it were Italy though, it'd just blame it on the Sunday slowness) | 01:56 |
| de-facto[m] | So that would mean if you would fit on one of those study arms you might know your level of protectuon... in 13 months | 02:04 |
| LjL | personally, of course this is just a personal choice based on gut feeling, if i had been given a dose of AZ, and then i were offered a dose of BNT as my second dose, i'd take it | 02:05 |
| LjL | they're right to do trials on it though | 02:06 |
| de-facto[m] | They speculate just like me above, there could be benefits, jet without data, how would we know? | 02:07 |
| LjL | but i think the very primary endpoint of such a trial would be safety. if safety endpoints are meet, i'd take effectiveness for granted, even if i didn't know the exact antibody titers and duration yet | 02:07 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Suga adviser under fire for downplaying COVID-19 situation in Japan → https://is.gd/d1aPdf | 02:07 |
| LjL | de-facto[m], what i know for sure is that AZ wouldn't protect me from the SA variant. getting a shot of BNT might. | 02:08 |
| LjL | and since i consider protections against that variant extremely important, i'd take the BNT if offered | 02:08 |
| de-facto[m] | i partly disagree, i assume AZ would also protext against severe progressions of SA mutant, at least for some time | 02:09 |
| rpifan | im still set on the chinese one | 02:09 |
| LjL | so when it's *your* gut feeling, the fact "you assume it" is fine, but when it's mine, it's not? :P | 02:09 |
| LjL | i assume AZ won't protect against severe progressions of the SA variant, so i would be much happier getting a shot of BNT | 02:09 |
| LjL | we don't have a certainty either way, but we do have a certainty that AZ efficacy on moderate disease is 22% or below, while it's 75% of above with BNT | 02:10 |
| de-facto[m] | I mean there is that whole spectrum of immunity, from sterilizing immunity over asymptomatic and symptomatic infection protection to protextion against hospitalization and finally against fatal outcome | 02:11 |
| LjL | yes, i realize | 02:12 |
| LjL | however there is no indication that AZ offers any protection against moderate disease with B.1.351, so that makes me infer that it's not very likely it'd protect from severe disease | 02:12 |
| LjL | usually, along the spectrum, you'd expect all kinds of severities to go down to varying degrees | 02:12 |
| LjL | there is that - and there is a vaccine just not working against a variant | 02:12 |
| LjL | the latter is an entirely possible thing | 02:13 |
| de-facto[m] | somewhere in that range the peak immunity from vaccination or recovery will fall, depending on many factors, and then will begi to wane off, towards allowing more and more of the severe problems | 02:14 |
| de-facto[m] | I think it would be very surprising if already a vaccine would have no effect at all against a variant, if that was the case we probably would see immunologists being alarmed | 02:16 |
| de-facto[m] | Hence i assume they all work, some better, others less but the more towards the severe effects protection the benchmark would bem the better the protective effect of vaccination | 02:18 |
| de-facto[m] | Yet i think they all need updates, also BNT | 02:18 |
| LjL | BNT just announced they don't think they need an update | 02:18 |
| LjL | so take it up with them i guess | 02:18 |
| pwr22 | I hold out hope that AZ will end up being better than 22% against SA as more data comes out | 02:19 |
| pwr22 | I kind of think it would be spreading more in the UK otherwise since most of our jabs by numbers are AZ | 02:19 |
| pwr22 | But we'll find out this winter I suppose | 02:19 |
| de-facto[m] | I am a bit puzzled by that BNT thinks no update needed, i think they change their mind as soon as they have something ready | 02:19 |
| pwr22 | If AZ is totally ineffective, it's not gonna be good for us here in the UK | 02:19 |
| LjL | pwr22, "more data"? it wasn't a very small study | 02:20 |
| pwr22 | de-facto: me too, I am especially sceptical of anything published directly from the manufacturer | 02:20 |
| LjL | well, skeptical or not, it indicates their direction | 02:20 |
| LjL | they may be wrong but it's probably what they're going to do for now | 02:20 |
| pwr22 | LjL: when we have lots of studies from different countries I mean | 02:20 |
| pwr22 | Rarely do any two studies seem to corroborate much during covid times | 02:20 |
| pwr22 | It's more like a slow regression towards the mean | 02:20 |
| pwr22 | That said, if I could have a pfizer/bnt jab for my second dose I'd probably take it | 02:21 |
| pwr22 | I just hope the difference between them is less light and day than "useless and super useful" | 02:21 |
| LjL | pwr22, let me swap your remark about manufacturers around - when AZ admits "yep, it doesn't protect against mild and moderate disease with the SA variant", i think if they had *any* hint that the protection actually does exist, they'd try to point it out | 02:21 |
| LjL | (which they did by saying it had "100% protection against severe disease", which was then immediately pointed out as a bogus data point) | 02:22 |
| pwr22 | I dunno, AZ seem to be the least "evil" manufacturer in all this, they sell at cost etc | 02:22 |
| pwr22 | That said, if they came out and said "it's no good" I would probably trust that more than pfizer saying "it works super good" | 02:22 |
| LjL | yeah, too bad the Oxford patent was meant to be free for all and instead they decided to give it to AZ in the first place | 02:23 |
| pwr22 | mainly because 1) I trust AZ a little more, 2) there is no vested interest to misrepresent things | 02:23 |
| pwr22 | Yeah, I hear that the Gates Foundation was involved partially in that lobbying | 02:23 |
| pwr22 | IMO all the patents should be free atm | 02:23 |
| LjL | well they didn't say "it's no good" but they did say "it's no good against mild and moderate disease with B.1.351", which leaves open the question of severe diseease | 02:23 |
| pwr22 | Sure, I'm just simplifying | 02:24 |
| LjL | but their 20 vaccinated subjects who got COVID were all young and healthy, so the fact no case progressed to be severe doesn't mean anything | 02:24 |
| pwr22 | As far as I ever hear from our UK stuff we seem to think the AZ does work on SA | 02:24 |
| pwr22 | It's not published in peer reviewed stuff or whatever but according to our health service it seems as though AZ is still working for us against those variants | 02:24 |
| pwr22 | sufficiently that we aren't super worried about the variants | 02:24 |
| pwr22 | so I dunno what to believe | 02:25 |
| de-facto | wasnt that study mainly (or exclusively?) with young participants, hence given their small number of infecitons in the verum arm already having a very low probability for severe cases occurring among them? | 02:25 |
| pwr22 | I just know I don't trust big pharma | 02:25 |
| de-facto | i mean the AZ in SA | 02:25 |
| LjL | pwr22, as to AZ being angels and doing things for no profit, i don't remember where i saw this today so i'll just have to get a random article about it from google, but, https://www.marketwatch.com/story/astrazeneca-ceos-pay-package-contested-by-investors-11620651727 | 02:27 |
| de-facto | we probably will see how the variants will work out, Israel with BNT, UK with AZ | 02:27 |
| LjL | or https://www.fiercepharma.com/pharma/astrazeneca-investors-push-back-against-ceo-soriot-s-2021-pay-plan-amid-a-covid-vaccine or https://www.reuters.com/business/sustainable-business/astrazeneca-plan-beef-up-ceo-soriots-pay-packet-faces-scrutiny-agm-2021-05-10/ | 02:27 |
| de-facto | i guess noone really knows for sure until we begin to see some real world data from a whole population | 02:28 |
| de-facto | btw UK is doing all the interesting studies right now, afaik also about variants and breakthroughs, hence i assume they will ensure their population is covered | 02:29 |
| * LjL rolls eyes | 02:30 | |
| LjL | sure, they're great and they made no mistakes in the pandemic hence it's certain they will make no mistakes in the future either | 02:30 |
| LjL | i don't know de-facto, you're critical of most measures taken but then sometimes you're liable to a ton of wishful thinking :\ | 02:31 |
| LjL | the UK has done better than the EU with vaccinating, and sure they run interesting studies | 02:31 |
| de-facto | that is not what i meant, i just think their scientists do quite a good job currently, with what kind of studies they are doing there | 02:31 |
| LjL | how does that mean they have or will ensure that "their population is covered" in terms of variants? | 02:31 |
| LjL | yes, okay, the scientists make good studies | 02:31 |
| LjL | that does not translate to the government necessarily ensuring the population is covered | 02:31 |
| LjL | and you really should know this, you really should know there is often a disconnect between scientists and governments, you've complained about this... all the time | 02:32 |
| LjL | and the UK has at least as much of a disconnect as other countries do | 02:32 |
| LjL | maybe Johnson got some neurons activated in his brain after getting COVID himself, though, i guess | 02:32 |
| de-facto | covered in terms of they will know what is going on in their population and hopefully will prepare to deal with problems that become apparent before they affect majorities, and yes there is where the hope starts | 02:32 |
| de-facto | yes LjL i agree with that, governments should base their decisions on science much more, and exactly there is the problem, usually. | 02:33 |
| de-facto | unfortunately i must say, its the main reason for our current problems here imho | 02:34 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Costa Rica: +5992 cases (now 271478), +65 deaths (now 3430) since 2 days ago — Netherlands: +4578 cases (now 1.6 million), +9 deaths (now 17461) since 22 hours ago — France: +3928 cases (now 5.8 million) since 22 hours ago — United Kingdom: +1621 cases (now 4.4 million), +2 deaths (now 127737) since 22 hours ago | 02:34 |
| pwr22 | Yeah the science here tends to be good, Boris just chooses to ignore it | 02:35 |
| de-facto | example: i am pretty sure if breakthrough AZ would occur with a VoC in UK we probably will see 3 studies popping up about every detail about it, if that means that government will address that in time, indeed that is another question | 02:35 |
| LjL | anyway don't get me wrong. there have been zero deaths yesterday in the UK except for Wales. i assume there will be more logged tomorrow, because, well, Monday comes after Sunday... but still, it's a great result, to squash the deaths, while we still have hundreds of deaths every day in Italy | 02:36 |
| LjL | and that result has been accomplished with BNT *and* AZ | 02:36 |
| LjL | i acknowledge that | 02:36 |
| LjL | but i think moving forward, BNT is proving to be a better vaccine, and the EU is moving more towards it (although it's mostly due to the lawsuit), and i'm happy about that, although i'm less happy that they plan to hike the prices | 02:37 |
| pwr22 | de-facto: there was a quite an aggressive response going on here when a variant was found in northern bristol | 02:37 |
| pwr22 | door to door surge testing afaik | 02:37 |
| LjL | i don't want to end up next winter with another, perhaps worse, pandemic, because B.1.351 seeps through | 02:37 |
| LjL | so the UK will do well if, as they announced, they boost people's protection in September | 02:37 |
| de-facto | pwr22, glad to hear they are learning and employing more aggressive containment, it will have MUCH more success rates | 02:37 |
| LjL | and they will do even better if they use either BNT for that, or a version of AZ that has been fine-tuned for the newer variants | 02:37 |
| pwr22 | LjL: yeah me either, I am thinking that we will have vaccine escapes in the UK this winter but hopefully I'm wrong | 02:37 |
| de-facto | i just wish we had MUCH more aggressive strategies here in Germany too, i really really would wish that | 02:38 |
| LjL | i don't think the *current* version of AZ is a suitable candidate for next autumn's boosters | 02:38 |
| pwr22 | Things actually feel pretty normal around here at the moment | 02:38 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: As COVID-19 wanes, employers are accelerating the use of robots. Where does that leave workers? → https://is.gd/tbhPPH | 02:38 |
| de-facto | pwr22, was there not some news about UK buying mRNA vaccines for update shots? | 02:39 |
| LjL | pwr22, remember where i'm coming from. things "felt normal" for the whole summer (and more) here last year, with just 200 cases per day, and few deaths. then we were all like "oh no we must not make this mistake again!" - and now... we're reopening for summer tourism, again. | 02:39 |
| de-facto | i mean they probably know that they cant use the same Adenovirus vector for that, when immunity also would avoid the Adenovirus vector itself to become ineffective | 02:39 |
| LjL | de-facto, i only read that they plan for a September booster on older people. didn't read what they plan to use | 02:40 |
| de-facto | i only faintly remember reading some headlines about that somewhere | 02:40 |
| LjL | yeah me too, it's the kind of thing where i go "well, that sounds like a good idea" but then i don't look at the details because the worse news take precedence | 02:41 |
| de-facto | https://www.unicef.org/supply/covid-19-vaccine-market-dashboard | 02:42 |
| LjL | freenode/##coronalinks/2021-03-27.log:[01:56:35] <Brainstorm> * Brainstorm → ##covid-19 → https://is.gd/bZIeus → Over-70s could get booster Covid jab from September - vaccines minister - BBC News | 02:43 |
| LjL | freenode/##coronalinks/2021-03-27.log:[06:36:15] <Brainstorm> * Brainstorm → ##covid-19 → https://is.gd/5wEipE → UK plans COVID-19 vaccine boosters for people over-70s from September - The Telegraph : worldnews | 02:43 |
| LjL | i thought i read about this recently though, but these are March logs... | 02:43 |
| de-facto | https://www.politico.eu/article/uk-buys-extra-60-million-doses-of-biontech-pfizer-covid-19-vaccine/ | 02:43 |
| LjL | https://old.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/me7ehv/uk_plans_covid19_vaccine_boosters_for_people/gsfky79/ | 02:44 |
| de-facto | hopefully both UK and US will start exporting at some point | 02:46 |
| LjL | check that reddit comment, i'm not sure which "actual article" they mean, but it's some pretty specific predictions | 02:47 |
| Atque | de-facto: They are already exporting. | 02:47 |
| LjL | (though from March) | 02:47 |
| LjL | what, freedom and democracy? | 02:49 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: More than 30 corpses wash up on banks of Ganges river as COVID-19 ravages India → https://is.gd/uJHZOt | 03:03 |
| de-facto | Atque, really that would be awesome, do you have some source? | 03:05 |
| de-facto | i think i remember somewhere that US plans to export their AZ shots and evaluates if that is possible according to law | 03:09 |
| de-facto | anyhow i have to get some sleep, gn8 | 03:10 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: WHO classifies triple-mutant Covid variant from India as global health risk → https://is.gd/5SHZBP | 03:14 |
| Atque | de-facto: Yeah, Australia bought pfizer doses and don't manufacture them domestically. | 03:35 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for French Guiana: +278 cases (now 20644), +2 deaths (now 106) since 3 days ago — Mozambique: +71 cases (now 70283), +2 deaths (now 825) since a day ago | 03:37 |
| LjL | ah, Australia, the country notoriously in dire need of vaccines... | 03:39 |
| LjL | (also Atque didn't say who they import them from) | 03:39 |
| LjL | "Australia managed to import just 1.57 million doses of COVID-19 vaccine by the end of March – a fraction of the federal government’s early target." | 03:40 |
| LjL | whoever they imported them from seems very generous :P | 03:40 |
| LjL | https://www.smh.com.au/national/how-much-vaccine-does-australia-have-and-where-is-it-all-20210401-p57fw6.html | 03:40 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Egypt: +1150 cases (now 238560), +68 deaths (now 13972) since a day ago | 04:02 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express: World: Malaysia declares nationwide lockdown as COVID-19 cases spike → https://is.gd/nyGiKH | 04:18 |
| [kraken | LjL: apparently Biden wants to keep / build a stockpile | 04:28 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Belize: +14 cases (now 12700) since 3 days ago | 04:29 |
| CoronaBot | /r/coronavirus: FDA permits use of the Pfizer-BioNTech Covid vaccine in kids ages 12 to 15 (10038 votes) | https://www.cnbc.com/2021/05/10/pfizer-covid-vaccine-fda-clears-use-in-kids-ages-12-to-15.html | https://redd.it/n9g9y6 | 04:35 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Indian doctors warn against cow dung as COVID cure → https://is.gd/F2rN4f | 04:51 |
| Brainstorm | New from Science-Based Medicine: Should COVID-19 vaccines be administered to children under an emergency use authorization?: Recently, Wesley Pegden, Vinay Prasad, and Stefan Baral argued in The BMJ that "COVID-19 vaccines for children should not get emergency use authorization." Their argument is lacking, and they left out a number of relevant facts. [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/RtYMyF | 05:22 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for San Marino: +16 cases (now 5083) since 7 days ago | 05:38 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express: World: US authorises Pfizer/BioNTech Covid-19 vaccine for children 12 to 15 → https://is.gd/GGOXJU | 05:55 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Thailand: +1919 cases (now 86924), +31 deaths (now 452) since a day ago — Belgium: +1267 cases (now 1.0 million), +32 deaths (now 24583) since 23 hours ago | 06:02 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Doctors in India are warning against the practice of using cow dung in the belief it will ward off COVID-19, saying there is no scientific evidence for its effectiveness and that it risks spreading other diseases → https://is.gd/7sQTu4 | 06:06 |
| [kraken | I think this is poor grammar, The Health Ministry of the archipelago off of Africa’s east coast said today that the number of active cases had more than doubled since last week to 2,486 people, and 37% of those have received two vaccine doses. | 06:18 |
| Brainstorm | New from EurekAlert!: CIA's misleading inoculation drive led to vaccine decline in Pakistan: A new paper in the Journal of the European Economic Association indicates that distrust generated by a 2011 CIA-led vaccination campaign ruse designed to catch Osama Bin Laden resulted in a significant vaccination rate decline in Pakistan. → https://is.gd/t4Bxh1 | 06:27 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express (Health): Life-style: ‘Friends are very anxious’: Manish Malhotra on the impact of COVID-related news → https://is.gd/8TOoVd | 06:38 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Moscow, Russia: +2896 cases (now 1.1 million), +56 deaths (now 18893) since 23 hours ago — Cundinamarca, Colombia: +1140 cases (now 135994), +21 deaths (now 3615) since 23 hours ago — Louisiana, United States: +1095 cases (now 462868), +5 deaths (now 10438) since 2 days ago — Galicia, Spain: +537 cases (now 123811), +1 deaths (now 2381) since 2 days ago | 07:29 |
| Brainstorm | New from New Scientist: CIA's hunt for Osama bin Laden fuelled vaccine hesitancy in Pakistan: The CIA’s efforts to capture Osama bin Laden via a fake vaccination drive in Pakistan led to a significant decline in vaccine uptake in the country → https://is.gd/mefX67 | 07:33 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: WHO classifies B1617 variant, first identified in India, as global variant of concern → https://is.gd/qv4z3p | 08:28 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for India: +219934 cases (now 22.9 million), +3836 deaths (now 248711) since 23 hours ago | 08:32 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express (Health): Life-style: ‘It takes immense mental courage to withstand such crisis’: Doctors on COVID duty → https://is.gd/1L9uY2 | 09:12 |
| de-facto | "Australia bought Pfizer doses" probably produced in Belgium or Germany then, i dont think USA exports those | 09:32 |
| Brainstorm | New from BBC Health: Covid in Scotland: FM expected to ease rules on indoor visits: First Minister Nicola Sturgeon is due to make an announcement on further relaxing Covid restrictions. → https://is.gd/UVXImN | 09:33 |
| de-facto | and btw "Pfizer doses" meaning BNT162b2 with "BNT" probably standing for BioNTech, the company in Germany/Mainz that developed that vaccine, funded by German taxpayers money | 09:34 |
| de-facto | not sure how many Americans know that | 09:34 |
| de-facto | fun fact: BioNTech address in Mainz is "An der Goldgrube 12, 55131 Mainz" literally meaning "At the gold mine" | 09:36 |
| de-facto | just the street name of course | 09:40 |
| Brainstorm | New from EMA: What's new: News: EMA working on COVID-19 during closure on 13 and 14 May 2021 → https://is.gd/VAzBsn | 09:44 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Anguilla: +10 cases (now 109) since 3 days ago | 10:11 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Tamil Nadu, India: +28978 cases (now 1.4 million), +232 deaths (now 15880) since 23 hours ago — West Bengal, India: +19445 cases (now 1.0 million), +134 deaths (now 12461) since 23 hours ago — Assam, India: +5803 cases (now 298171), +77 deaths (now 1753) since 23 hours ago — Tripura, India: +466 cases (now 38158), +3 deaths (now 413) since 23 hours ago | 10:36 |
| Brainstorm | New from StatNews: CDC’s slow, cautious messaging on Covid-19 seems out of step with the moment, public health experts say: Public health officials say the conservative nature of the CDC's approach to Covid is a marked departure from how it deals with other major public health issues, like HIV and… → https://is.gd/WY9ujk | 10:38 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express (Health): Art and Culture: Italy’s La Scala reopens to public after seven-month pandemic-led closure → https://is.gd/aH4Lfx | 11:11 |
| Brainstorm | New from Il Sole 24 Ore: Covid-19, gli anticorpi durano per almeno 8 mesi dopo infezione: La ricerca fornisce indicazioni sulla durata dell'immunità al coronavirus e suggerisce i pazienti a maggior rischio per le forme gravi della malattia → https://is.gd/Q7WupQ | 11:33 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Fiji: +12 cases (now 152) since 16 hours ago | 11:38 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: ‘Dracula’s castle’ offers tourists Covid shots. Visitors to Bran Castle in Romania offered vaccines – with a free trip to the ‘torture chamber’ thrown in. → https://is.gd/uwOcw3 | 11:54 |
| Brainstorm | New from ScienceNews: Science & Society: Vaccine hesitancy is nothing new. Here’s the damage it’s done over centuries → https://is.gd/U9OmXq | 12:05 |
| Brainstorm | New from BMJ: Supporting teams through the pandemic: nephrologist Reza Motazed: Times of adversity can bring out the best in people, and the work of the healthcare team at Croydon Health Services NHS Trust during the covid-19 pandemic has left Reza Motazed feeling increasingly... → https://is.gd/v5YTsT | 12:27 |
| finely[m] | The pharma fuckheads WANT variants of concern to arise in unvaccinated poor countries because it will be super profitable to sell a booster vaccine evey year to the rich countries. | 12:59 |
| finely[m] | https://mattstoller.substack.com/p/why-joe-biden-punched-big-pharma | 12:59 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express (Health): Health: Soaked raisins, fresh juice, plenty of sleep: Sameera Reddy on what helped her make post-Covid recovery → https://is.gd/SEx2Rh | 13:22 |
| Brainstorm | New from EMA: What's new: General: EMA’s governance during COVID-19 pandemic → https://is.gd/nXWOeq | 13:32 |
| Brainstorm | New from Emma Hodcroft: @firefoxx66: The first step to solving a problem is understanding it: while a year old, many of the issues raised are likely still relevant.We have a global pandemic: we aren't going to be able to tackle it until we have a global picture through global [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/sssxSz | 14:06 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Switzerland: +9 deaths (now 10719) since 23 hours ago | 14:32 |
| Brainstorm | New from NIH Director's blog: How Severe COVID-19 Can Tragically Lead to Lung Failure and Death: More than 3 million people around the world, now tragically including thousands every day in India, have lost their lives to severe COVID-19. Though incredible progress has been made in a little more than a year to develop effective vaccines, diagnostic [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/uAedb4 | 15:01 |
| CoronaBot | /r/covid19: CDC: The risk of complications for healthy children is higher for flu compared to COVID-19 (84 votes) | https://www.cdc.gov/flu/symptoms/flu-vs-covid19.htm#anchor_1595599512 | https://redd.it/n9tbrg | 15:22 |
| Brainstorm | New from StatNews: Pharma: STAT+: Pharmalittle: U.K. says IP waiver is insufficient for Covid-19 vaccine access; EU sues AstraZeneca over vaccine supply — again → https://is.gd/d3K5i3 | 15:34 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Nepal: +9317 cases (now 413111), +225 deaths (now 4084) since 23 hours ago — Bangladesh: +1230 cases (now 776257), +33 deaths (now 12005) since a day ago | 15:34 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express (Health): Health: Pandemic health: 7 things women must do to keep their heart healthy → https://is.gd/A6iUgl | 16:20 |
| Brainstorm | New from Shane Crotty: @profshanecrotty: R to @profshanecrotty: The CDC vaccine advisory committee will meet on Wednesday about recommending the vaccine for 12-15 year olds, and availability will likely depend on that decision. → https://is.gd/i9Nbf9 | 16:43 |
| xrogaan | Is there any data on efficacy when being vaccinated by two different type of vaccines? | 16:45 |
| xrogaan | Two doses of different types, that is. | 16:45 |
| Brainstorm | New from Emma Hodcroft: @firefoxx66: Super-interesting investigation of #SARSCoV2 on a college campus, plus wonderful to see the @nextstrain pipeline was able to help create subsampled focused builds to investigate! 🔍 → https://is.gd/CJWfYr | 16:53 |
| Brainstorm | New from Trevor Bedford: @trvrb: R to @trvrb: The observed rapid growth of this (sub)-lineage in India and elsewhere would suggest that this virus is potentially highly transmissible. If faster growth than B.1.1.7 in India and in the UK is conclusive, it would suggest that this lineage will spread widely. 10/10 → https://is.gd/boiKUY | 17:05 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Germany: +29337 cases (now 3.5 million) since 23 hours ago — Puerto Rico: +10 deaths (now 2384) since 22 hours ago | 17:08 |
| Brainstorm | New from LitCovid: (news): Social Estrangement and Psychological Distress before and during the COVID-19 Pandemic. → https://is.gd/kA1vLt | 17:16 |
| Brainstorm | New from LitCovid: (news): Immunological Interfaces: The COVID-19 Pandemic and Depression. → https://is.gd/6BhoNI | 17:28 |
| finely[m] | <xrogaan "Is there any data on efficacy wh"> Not that I know of. It is being tested in the UK, I think. | 17:30 |
| -RSSBot[LjLmatrix- Feed: Comunicato stampa del Consiglio dei Ministri n. 17 ( https://www.governo.it/it/articolo/comunicato-stampa-del-consiglio-dei-ministri-n-17/16811 ) | 17:31 | |
| -RSSBot[LjLmatrix- Feed: Comunicato stampa del Consiglio dei Ministri n. 17 ( https://www.governo.it/it/articolo/comunicato-stampa-del-consiglio-dei-ministri-n-17/16812 ) | 17:31 | |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Canada: +45 deaths (now 24671) since 23 hours ago | 17:33 |
| Brainstorm | New from ClinicalTrials.gov: (news): Response of Haemodialysis Patients to BNT162b2 mRNA Cov-19 Vaccine → https://is.gd/n72FzI | 18:02 |
| Brainstorm | New from ClinicalTrials.gov: (news): Long-Term Functional, Quality-of-Life, Neuropsychological and Cognitive Outcomes in COVID-19 Critical Illness Survivors → https://is.gd/BwJun8 | 18:14 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Seven arrested in UP, India, for stealing clothes from dead Covid patients. → https://is.gd/4ScNGm | 18:36 |
| -RSSBot[LjLmatrix- Feed: Question time del Presidente Draghi alla Camera ( https://www.governo.it/it/articolo/question-time-del-presidente-draghi-alla-camera/16814 ) | 18:51 | |
| Brainstorm | New from ScienceNews: As the COVID-19 pandemic evolves, we answer 7 lingering vaccine questions: As U.S. vaccination efforts shift to get shots to the hard-to-reach, we take a look at some big questions about vaccines that still remain. → https://is.gd/kldoJD | 18:58 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Eritrea: +64 cases (now 3818) since 22 hours ago | 19:00 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: India’s Super Rich Want Ordinary Citizens to Donate to Their COVID Fundraisers → https://is.gd/1RjxXZ | 19:19 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Italy: +6943 cases (now 4.1 million), +251 deaths (now 123282) since 23 hours ago | 19:31 |
| CoronaBot | /r/covid19: Cannabidiol Inhibits SARS-CoV-2 Replication and Promotes the Host Innate Immune Response (80 votes) | https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.03.10.432967v1 | https://redd.it/n9qzdv | 19:42 |
| Brainstorm | New from Reddit (test): COVID19: Coronavirus variants are spreading in India — what scientists know so far → https://is.gd/0TiHqq | 19:51 |
| Brainstorm | New from Virological.org: Latest posts: Preliminary in silico assessment of the specificity of published molecular assays and design of new assays using the available whole genome sequences of 2019-nCoV: Updated to 1,081,736 high coverage COVID-19 WGS from GISAID using BLASTDB version 5. Run Date: 05/7/2021 Table 1. PSET analysis using SARS-CoV-2 as [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/3A6AcG | 20:02 |
| LjL | the "Coronavirus variants are spreading in India" post is a Nature article, has a few references | 20:03 |
| LjL | just pointing it out since you know, most articles are trash :P | 20:03 |
| Arsanerit | "In just a few weeks, the B.1.617 variant has become the dominant strain across India and has spread to about 40 nations, including the United Kingdom, Fiji and Singapore" — why is it still spreading around the world so much? Have we still not learned after a year of pandemic? | 20:25 |
| oxek | nobody wants to shut down air traffic | 20:31 |
| oxek | end of story | 20:31 |
| oxek | would need another iceland volcano to blow up | 20:32 |
| Brainstorm | New from WebMD: Meat Production Is Polluting the Air You Breathe: A new study estimates airborne particles generated by food production kill nearly 16,000 Americans each year. → https://is.gd/blcbmG | 20:35 |
| rpifan | no srprise | 20:36 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Spain: +3268 cases (now 3.6 million), +138 deaths (now 79033) since 23 hours ago — France: +138 deaths (now 106822) since 18 hours ago | 20:39 |
| CoronaBot | /r/covid19: Coronavirus variants are spreading in India — what scientists know so far (80 votes) | https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01274-7 | https://redd.it/na1zbb | 20:42 |
| rpifan | will any of those variants kills us in the west? | 20:43 |
| rpifan | speaking of india i just asked my india roommate how his family was doing | 20:52 |
| rpifan | his mom got the vaccine but everything else is falling apart he tells me | 20:52 |
| rpifan | and he canceled his flgith | 20:52 |
| rpifan | in may | 20:53 |
| LjL | he definitely shouldn't fly to india at this stage | 20:53 |
| rpifan | yea | 20:53 |
| Arsanerit | German public TV doesn't have journalists in India any more. | 20:54 |
| rpifan | oh really? | 20:54 |
| Arsanerit | they came home a couple of weeks ago because they considered the situation too dangerous | 20:54 |
| rpifan | since he mentioned his mom, i suppose his dad is either not in the picture or died previously | 20:54 |
| Brainstorm | New from CIDRAP: Those with mild COVID-19 seek more primary care than uninfected peers: Mary Van Beusekom | News Writer | CIDRAP News May 11, 2021 COVID-19 patients visited their GPs 20% more often and clinics 10% more often. → https://is.gd/hFHRwT | 21:40 |
| Brainstorm | New from CIDRAP: COVID-19 Scan for May 11, 2021: Pregnant women and COVID death COVID-19 superspreaders Real-world COVID vaccine impact → https://is.gd/qTU9Cu | 22:02 |
| CoronaBot | /r/coronavirus: McDonald’s to promote vaccine information on coffee cups (10265 votes) | https://www.theguardian.com/business/2021/may/11/mcdonalds-promote-vaccine-information | https://redd.it/n9ye5v | 22:31 |
| Brainstorm | New from FDA Press Releases: FDA: Coronavirus (COVID-19) Update: May 11, 2021 → https://is.gd/NTx42u | 23:06 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Switzerland: +6 deaths (now 10721) since 22 hours ago | 23:08 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Ontario will no longer give AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine as 1st dose due to blood clot risk → https://is.gd/M0Hlxy | 23:23 |
| Brainstorm | New from Derek Lowe: @Dereklowe: R to @Dereklowe: mass.gov/info-details/covid-… → https://is.gd/GmYzl4 | 23:32 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Maldives: +1501 cases (now 38520) since 23 hours ago | 23:34 |
| Brainstorm | New from Ars Technica: Science: Rare, flesh-eating “black fungus” rides COVID’s coattails in India → https://is.gd/LVk0ZA | 23:49 |
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