| de-facto | Janssen is a one dose scheme | 00:00 |
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| Brainstorm | Updates for Switzerland: +3 deaths (now 10728) since 22 hours ago | 00:03 |
| Brainstorm | New from Scientific American: CDC Says Vaccinated People Do Not Need to Wear Masks in Most Settings: Under new CDC guidance, vaccinated people will be able to ditch their masks in small outdoor gatherings. → https://is.gd/yK7U9f | 00:05 |
| LjL | de-facto, you'd like the governor of Veneto i think, even though somehow he belong to the League party | 00:17 |
| LjL | he just said that in his opinion all regions should have a minimum amount of PCR tests done, regardless of need/positivity | 00:17 |
| LjL | basically as a sample | 00:17 |
| LjL | i *think* that's something you've given up saying but you were saying for months :P | 00:17 |
| LjL | he's a doctor, by the way (well he was anyway) | 00:17 |
| LjL | but well that doesn't mean anything, there are doctors saying stupid things too | 00:18 |
| de-facto | yes i hoped we would finally get some kind of random sampling too, e.g. like that REACT-1 study in UK | 00:19 |
| de-facto | the more testing the better, i do a test every week, because its offered to me and i think it makes sense that everyone gets tested as much as possible | 00:20 |
| de-facto | Israel escalating more and more in Gaza, not good :/ | 00:22 |
| LjL | yeah | 00:25 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Curacao: +8 cases (now 12244), +1 deaths (now 118) since a day ago | 00:41 |
| de-facto | https://twitter.com/IDF "IDF air and ground troops are currently attacking in the Gaza Strip." | 00:44 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Argentina: +17666 cases (now 3.2 million), +298 deaths (now 69105) since 22 hours ago — South Africa: +3221 cases (now 1.6 million), +44 deaths (now 55012) since a day ago — Trinidad and Tobago: +397 cases (now 14814), +21 deaths (now 256) since 22 hours ago | 01:06 |
| Brainstorm | New from BBC Health: (news): Covid vaccines have saved 11,700 lives and 33,000 hospital admissions → https://is.gd/VDbM51 | 01:30 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Colombia: +19160 cases (now 3.1 million), +499 deaths (now 79760) since 22 hours ago — Nigeria: +53 cases (now 165612) since 22 hours ago | 01:30 |
| -Synapsestorm- 🏠 地震! Earthquake! 6.0 M tremor, registered by yurekuru, occurred 4 minutes ago (23:58:15 UTC), during daytime, Near East Coast Of Honshu, Japan (37.7, 141.8), ↓44 km likely felt 270 km away (in 仙台市, いわき市, 石巻市, 南相馬市, 福島市…) by 11.7 million people → https://twitter.com/yurekuru/status/1392992680955715586 — Webcams: https://www.windy.com/webcams/1475830280 https://www.wi | 02:03 | |
| -Synapsestorm- https://www.windy.com/webcams/1620087010 (www.kmoni.bosai.go.jp) | 02:03 | |
| Brainstorm | New from The Atlantic: Podcast: Share the Vaccine ‘Recipe’: When the Biden administration announced support for waiving COVID-19 vaccine patents last week, it was met with praise, relief, skepticism, and alarm by different groups—but surprise all around. Pharmaceutical giants have long fought efforts to have their intellectual property released [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/B20QH4 | 02:13 |
| -Synapsestorm- 🏠 地震! Earthquake! 6.0 Mw tremor, registered by EMSC, occurred 15 minutes ago (23:58:15 UTC), during daytime, Near East Coast Of Honshu, Japan (37.79, 141.73) likely felt 270 km away (in 仙台市, 石巻市, 南相馬市, 名取市, 相馬市…) by 1.8 million people — Webcams: https://www.windy.com/webcams/1475830280 https://www.windy.com/webcams/1612436409 https://www.windy.com/webcams/1327146700 (www.s | 02:14 | |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Greyhound ends Canadian operations after nearly a century, hit by pandemic → https://is.gd/XeUB4C | 02:23 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for United Kingdom: +1906 cases (now 4.5 million), +8 deaths (now 127776) since 21 hours ago — Guyana: +186 cases (now 14845), +2 deaths (now 333) since 22 hours ago — France: +10240 cases (now 5.9 million) since 21 hours ago — Netherlands: +4614 cases (now 1.6 million), +11 deaths (now 17539) since 21 hours ago | 02:33 |
| Brainstorm | New from Virology.ws: A genetically stable attenuated poliovirus vaccine: Eradication of poliomyelitis appears to be on track: types 2 and 3 polioviruses have been declared eradicated, and in the past 12 months there have been just 338 cases of type 1 polio in Afghanistan and Pakistan. But there have also been 491 cases of polio caused by the type 2 [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/al4X5y | 02:45 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for French Guiana: +327 cases (now 21433) since 23 hours ago | 03:10 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: New study finds delaying the second dose of vaccine can save lives → https://is.gd/uYIAOE | 03:17 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Uruguay: +3799 cases (now 231901), +66 deaths (now 3318) since a day ago — Egypt: +1193 cases (now 242120), +59 deaths (now 14150) since a day ago | 03:35 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Timor-Leste: +253 cases (now 3879), +3 deaths (now 8) since a day ago — Suriname: +145 cases (now 11572), +1 deaths (now 221) since a day ago | 04:00 |
| Brainstorm | New from Politico: Vaccine envy and the world’s worst pub: Vaccination in Dracula's castle = good. A pint in a right-wing pub = bad. → https://is.gd/ghBWOH | 04:11 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for France: +9730 cases (now 5.9 million), +65 deaths (now 107219) since 21 hours ago — Netherlands: +4522 cases (now 1.6 million), +10 deaths (now 17542) since 21 hours ago — United Kingdom: +1996 cases (now 4.5 million), +8 deaths (now 127779) since 21 hours ago — Germany: +7781 cases (now 3.6 million) since 21 hours ago | 04:37 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for South Korea: +747 cases (now 130380), +2 deaths (now 1893) since a day ago | 05:02 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express: World: Indian-Americans have been pillar of support in fight against COVID-19: Ambassador Sandhu → https://is.gd/WkyLOP | 05:06 |
| finely[m] | <de-facto "i do not know that, i think in s"> Indian police handed out brutal beatings to migrant workers walking home hundreds of kilometers after the first lockdown. Many died. This guaranteed migrants left early this time fearing another lockdown. No social safety net in a pandemic = horrific outcomes. | 05:23 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express: World: Delayed second Pfizer COVID-19 shot produces more antibodies: Study → https://is.gd/INjtSf | 05:27 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Seychelles: +1012 cases (now 9184), +4 deaths (now 32) since 3 days ago | 05:39 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Peru: +7677 cases (now 1.9 million), +418 deaths (now 65316) since 23 hours ago | 06:04 |
| Brainstorm | New from Reddit (test): COVID19: Delaying second Pfizer vaccines to 12 weeks significantly increases antibody responses in older people, finds study → https://is.gd/GHxk7S | 06:21 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express (Health): Health: COVID-19 and kidney health: Some guidelines for people suffering from chronic kidney disease → https://is.gd/Pbo4ix | 06:32 |
| CoronaBot | /r/covid19: Delaying second Pfizer vaccines to 12 weeks significantly increases antibody responses in older people, finds study (96 votes) | https://www.birmingham.ac.uk/news/latest/2021/05/covid-pfizer-vaccination-interval-antibody-response.aspx | https://redd.it/nbz8u1 | 06:40 |
| semitones | When a vaccinated person gets COVID | 06:52 |
| semitones | Are they less contagious than a non vax | 06:52 |
| finely[m] | I'm not sure we have solid evidence yet, but if you get less severe disease (vaccines definitely do that), it stands to reason you will be shedding less viral particles. So probably less contagious, and likely any person you spread the disease to will have less severe COVID. | 07:00 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Belgium: +2890 cases (now 1.0 million), +15 deaths (now 24645) since a day ago | 07:06 |
| finely[m] | A Chinese conspiracy theory grifter writes a book. A Western conspiracy theory grifter writes another based on the first. "News" limited promotes the second book. Hilarious if it wasn't for the all the anti Asian hate crimes this spawns. | 07:12 |
| finely[m] | https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/may/14/sharri-markson-exclusive-on-chinese-bioweapons-based-on-discredited-2015-book-of-conspiracy-theories | 07:12 |
| CoronaBot | /r/coronavirus: CDC plans to drop mask requirements for fully vaccinated people (10033 votes) | https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/cdc-plans-drop-mask-requirements-fully-vaccinated-people-n1267249 | https://redd.it/nbmt3d | 07:23 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express: World: Chinese firm’s COVID-19 drug claims draw scientists’ skepticism → https://is.gd/yoCblB | 07:26 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Bogota, Colombia: +7727 cases (now 852988), +131 deaths (now 16902) since a day ago — North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany: +6420 cases (now 780826), +86 deaths (now 16190) since a day ago — Bavaria, Germany: +4316 cases (now 622624), +53 deaths (now 14551) since a day ago — Pernambuco, Brazil: +3195 cases (now 434808), +79 deaths (now 14798) since a day ago | 07:31 |
| -RSSBot[LjLmatrix- Feed: Il Presidente Draghi agli Stati Generali della Natalità ( https://www.governo.it/it/articolo/il-presidente-draghi-agli-stati-generali-della-natalit/16854 ) | 08:03 | |
| finely[m] | Does anyone have any more info on the B.1.167.2 variant having an R nought of 8?! | 08:26 |
| finely[m] | https://www.abc.net.au/radio/programs/coronacast/does-the-617-variant-change-everything/13343632 | 08:26 |
| finely[m] | * Does anyone have any more info on the B.1.617.2 variant having an R nought of 8?! | 08:29 |
| finely[m] | https://www.abc.net.au/radio/programs/coronacast/does-the-617-variant-change-everything/13343632 | 08:29 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for India: +216997 cases (now 23.9 million), +3586 deaths (now 260880) since 15 hours ago | 08:33 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express: World: Pfizer got no response to offers to supply vaccine to Brazil last year, exec says → https://is.gd/0xHxkn | 08:42 |
| -Synapsestorm- ⭕ Gempa bumi! Lindu! Earthquake! 6.2 Mw tremor, registered by EMSC,HKOEARTHQUAKE5E,alomax, occurred 10 minutes ago (06:33:10 UTC), during daytime, Off W Coast Of Northern Sumatra (0.19, 96.81) ± 5 km, ↓3 km likely felt 330 km away (in Gunungsitoli…) by 139300 people (www.seismicportal.eu) | 08:43 | |
| vaio | Hello. Where does Brainstorm get it's case numbers ? | 08:45 |
| vaio | (+ from) | 08:45 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Daily Discussion Thread | May 14, 2021: Please refer to our Wiki for more information on COVID-19 and our sub. You can find answers to frequently asked questions in our FAQ , where there is valuable information such as our: → https://is.gd/GOqWzL | 09:04 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Taiwan: +34 cases (now 1290) since 22 hours ago | 09:11 |
| [Kraken | does this channel do earthquake announcements also? | 09:29 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Canada: +49 deaths (now 24825) since 14 hours ago | 09:36 |
| Brainstorm | New from Reddit (test): Covid2019: Just 12 People Are Behind Most Vaccine Hoaxes On Social Media, Research Shows → https://is.gd/IvPpys | 09:47 |
| genera | kraken, vaio, there are at least two bots here. Ask ljl when he appears | 09:50 |
| vaio | oh, sorry got my answer running the %case command in pv. thanks though :) | 09:51 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Tamil Nadu, India: +30621 cases (now 1.5 million), +297 deaths (now 16768) since a day ago — West Bengal, India: +20839 cases (now 1.1 million), +129 deaths (now 12857) since a day ago — Meghalaya, India: +591 cases (now 21576), +18 deaths (now 268) since a day ago — Tripura, India: +552 cases (now 39606), +2 deaths (now 426) since a day ago | 10:38 |
| Brainstorm | New from StatNews: Opinion: Setting the record straight: There is no ‘Covid heart’: In a world where success is measured by clicks, the idea that even mild cases of Covid-19 could pose a new and unprecedented threat to the heart took off, even… → https://is.gd/YVpbIc | 10:41 |
| Brainstorm | New from StatNews: Opinion: Make drug companies partners — not adversaries — to expand global Covid-19 vaccine access: Wealthy countries should do everything in their power to make vaccines more wildly available and at reasonable cost. Drug companies can be partners in this effort. → https://is.gd/kSEL8l | 10:52 |
| -RSSBot[LjLmatrix- Feed: Draghi incontra l’Inviato Speciale del Presidente USA per il Clima, John Kerry ( https://www.governo.it/it/articolo/draghi-incontra-l-inviato-speciale-del-presidente-usa-il-clima-john-kerry/16858 ) | 10:58 | |
| Brainstorm | New from The Lancet (Online): [Comment] India's COVID-19 crisis: a call for international action: India's current COVID-19 surge is an unprecedented public health crisis. With exponential growth in the number of daily COVID-19 cases since March, 2021, India reported more than 400 000 new cases daily on May 1, 2021.1 This number is likely to be an [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/piNjer | 11:03 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express (Health): Lifestyle: ‘Oxygen Concentrators’: Support Khalsa Aid’s efforts to save critical COVID-19 patients → https://is.gd/z7c5h9 | 11:24 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express (Health): Health: COVID-19 in children: How to manage asymptomatic or mild cases in home isolation → https://is.gd/FpL1hI | 11:35 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Russia: +9462 cases (now 4.9 million), +905 deaths (now 115116) since a day ago | 11:40 |
| Brainstorm | New from Emma Hodcroft: @firefoxx66: Transparency & open communication is *so key* in this pandemic.At @nextstrain we don't claim to be perfect - but you know who we are, how we work, & we try incredibly hard to have open conversations with the community: building trust & better research.#openscience #opensource → https://is.gd/gXTZN1 | 11:45 |
| finely[m] | Amazing how much damage a handful of determined bastards can do with technology. And shocking how profitable anti vaccine grifts can be. One is quoted as saying social media bans had cost then hundreds of thousands of dollars in donations. | 12:13 |
| finely[m] | https://www.nhpr.org/post/disinformation-dozen-test-facebooks-twitters-ability-curb-vaccine-hoaxes | 12:13 |
| Brainstorm | New from Politico: Coronavirus: Lithuania donates 200,000 vaccine doses to Eastern Partnership countries → https://is.gd/5jp21L | 13:32 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Singapore: +52 cases (now 61505) since 17 hours ago — Bangladesh: +848 cases (now 779535), +26 deaths (now 12102) since a day ago | 13:32 |
| Brainstorm | New from Emma Hodcroft: @firefoxx66: R to @firefoxx66: The purpose of this thread isn't to blow @nextstrain's horn - but to hold up what's hopefully an example of what we should be expecting from every major body that's critically involved in the pandemic: it's simply too important to not invest in transparency & communication! → https://is.gd/fIsKhg | 13:42 |
| Brainstorm | New from NPR: Mask Or No Mask? That Depends Where You Live: The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said vaccinated people still must follow existing state, local, or tribal laws on masks and social distancing. → https://is.gd/zAIGDY | 14:26 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Switzerland: +2300 cases (now 679510), +2 deaths (now 10729) since 18 hours ago — France: +159 deaths (now 107314) since 17 hours ago | 14:34 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express (Health): Health: Why is the second dose of COVID-19 vaccine so important? → https://is.gd/TjjYJe | 14:58 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Laos: +16 cases (now 1498), +1 deaths (now 2) since a day ago | 14:59 |
| Brainstorm | New from Virological.org: Latest posts: @Martin Martin Hölzer: Emergence of SARS-CoV-2 lineage A.27 in Germany, expressing viral spike proteins with several amino acid replacements of interest, including L18F, L452R, and N501Y in the absence of D614G → https://is.gd/hDrZ9K | 15:31 |
| Brainstorm | New from Politico: Coronavirus: WHO chief: Vaccination of kids a ‘moral catastrophe’ as health workers await jabs → https://is.gd/Nc8IOc | 15:53 |
| Brainstorm | New from StatNews: Pharma: STAT+: Pharmalittle: Congress grills U.S. trade representative over Covid-19 IP waiver; Pfizer shot was target of conspiracy theories → https://is.gd/vUUc3F | 16:05 |
| Brainstorm | New from BMJ: GPs should return to offering face-to-face appointments without prior triage, says NHS: The NHS has told general practices to return to offering patients face-to-face appointments without needing prior telephone or online triage, reversing a policy that has been in place since the start... → https://is.gd/ogsWu8 | 16:27 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Nepal: +8467 cases (now 439658), +203 deaths (now 4669) since a day ago | 16:39 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Atlantic: We Can’t Hide in Our Bubble of Immunity Forever: The United States is rapidly encasing itself in a bubble of immunity. Heading into a quite possibly wonderful summer , more than half of adults are at least partly vaccinated against COVID-19, and their masks are coming off . Some will be rewarded with a million-dollar prize. The [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/Py7ODk | 16:49 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Germany: +114 deaths (now 85910) since 23 hours ago | 17:04 |
| lordxenonargon | Hi | 17:11 |
| jacklsw | hi lordxenonargon | 17:13 |
| jacklsw | stay safe from covid | 17:13 |
| lordxenonargon | ye, ty, you take care jacklsw :) | 17:14 |
| lordxenonargon | %cases India | 17:15 |
| Brainstorm | lordxenonargon: In India, there have been 23.9 million confirmed cases (1.8% of the population) and 261020 deaths (1.1% of cases) as of 11 minutes ago. 311.3 million tests were performed (7.7% positive). Fatality can be broadly expected to lie between 0.2% (assuming prevalence as in tests) and less than 1.3% (considering only deaths and recoveries). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=India for time series data. | 17:15 |
| Brainstorm | New from Reddit (test): Friday 14 May 2021 Update: submitted by /u/HippolasCage to r/CoronavirusUK → https://is.gd/PnuWBM | 17:22 |
| Brainstorm | New from Derek Lowe: @Dereklowe: Trying to keep up with the number and variety of anti-vaccine arguments has me feeling like Father Brown in "The Innocence of Israel Gow". Shedding proteins? Magnets sticking to arms? It never stops. → https://is.gd/qDsA6u | 17:32 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Canada: +5889 cases (now 1.3 million), +52 deaths (now 24828) since 23 hours ago | 17:41 |
| LjL | vaio: it takes the cases from Covidly currently | 17:44 |
| LjL | [Kraken: this channel only announces very big earthquakes under the rationale they may impact management of the pandemic. ##earthquakes announces more earthquakes | 17:46 |
| LjL | I saw someone asked about the Indian variants having R=8. Now I've lost it in the back scroll. I don't know about that but we just saw yesterday that the Indian variant is doubling less than every week in the UK, which is a country where the more contagious B.1.1.7 variant is already nearly universal, so unfortunately it stands to reason that B.1.617 is even more contagious than that :/ | 17:50 |
| -RSSBot[LjLmatrix- Feed: Riunione del Consiglio Supremo di Difesa ( https://www.governo.it/it/articolo/riunione-del-consiglio-supremo-di-difesa/16861 ) | 17:58 | |
| Brainstorm | New from The Atlantic: America Is Already on the Vaccine Honor System: If you have been fortunate enough to receive a COVID-19 vaccine, you also possess an essential, high-tech tool for proving your immunity to others. → https://is.gd/EGPpxg | 18:05 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Myanmar: +31 cases (now 143035) since 21 hours ago | 18:06 |
| Brainstorm | New from StatNews: 5 pressing questions about the New York Yankees’ breakthrough Covid-19 infections: How did it happen? Was there a variant involved? And other pressing questions about the Covid-19 outbreak among vaccinated members of the New York Yankees. → https://is.gd/ITeqqY | 18:38 |
| de-facto | .title https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/sites/default/files/documents/Emergence-of-SARS-CoV-2-B.1.617-variants-in-India-and-situation-in-the-EUEEA.pdf | 18:41 |
| Brainstorm | de-facto: From www.ecdc.europa.eu: Emergence of SARS-CoV-2 B.1.617 variants in India and situation in the EU/EEA (European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control) | 18:41 |
| -RSSBot[LjLmatrix- Feed: Global Health Summit ( https://www.governo.it/it/articolo/global-health-summit/16863 ) | 18:48 | |
| de-facto | .title https://imgur.com/a/AtgaZKQ https://i.imgur.com/7GVCuFj.png source: https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/sites/default/files/documents/Emergence-of-SARS-CoV-2-B.1.617-variants-in-India-and-situation-in-the-EUEEA.pdf | 18:51 |
| Brainstorm | de-facto: From imgur.com: COVID India: evolution of SARS-CoV-2 linages over time - Album on Imgur | 18:51 |
| de-facto | so it seems even in India its the B.1.617.2 that increases with time | 18:52 |
| de-facto | .title https://imgur.com/a/19yTTqi https://i.imgur.com/Z3q52UC.png source: https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/sites/default/files/documents/Emergence-of-SARS-CoV-2-B.1.617-variants-in-India-and-situation-in-the-EUEEA.pdf | 19:02 |
| Brainstorm | de-facto: From imgur.com: COVID EU: SARS-CoV-2-VoC B.1.617.2 increase over time per country - Album on Imgur | 19:02 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Chile: +6915 cases (now 1.3 million), +127 deaths (now 27647) since 22 hours ago | 19:08 |
| de-facto | "No studies evaluating immune escape potential are currently available for lineage B.1.617.2." | 19:13 |
| de-facto | they have a small but important comment in that report | 19:14 |
| de-facto | "Targeted testing of arrivals from India to the UK and countries in the EU/EEA may have caused an overrepresentation of these variants and further data is needed to assess the true incidence and transmissibility of this lineage." | 19:14 |
| de-facto | LjL maybe that ECDC pdf could be something for the link collection? | 19:16 |
| de-facto | (though i hope it wont be relevant i fear it might become) | 19:17 |
| LjL | de-facto, but the site we looked at yesterday specifically indicated that they were *excluding* sequences from UK arrivals, in order to get a random sample | 19:21 |
| de-facto | yeah they stated that there indeed | 19:29 |
| de-facto | title https://covid19.sanger.ac.uk/lineages/raw | 19:29 |
| de-facto | .title https://covid19.sanger.ac.uk/lineages/raw | 19:29 |
| Brainstorm | de-facto: From covid19.sanger.ac.uk: COVID-19 Genomic Surveillance â Wellcome Sanger Institute | 19:29 |
| de-facto | .title https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/jmv.27062 | 19:29 |
| Brainstorm | de-facto: From onlinelibrary.wiley.com: Preliminary report on SARS‐CoV‐2 Spike mutation T478K - Di Giacomo - - Journal of Medical Virology - Wiley Online Library | 19:29 |
| de-facto | interesting mutation because of this: | 19:30 |
| de-facto | "B.1.617.1 is defined by the spike protein amino acid changes L452R, E484Q, D614G, P681R, and Q1071H (some viruses also carry V382L)." | 19:30 |
| de-facto | "B.1.617.2 is defined by spike protein changes T19R, Δ157-158, L452R, T478K, D614G, P681R, and D950N." | 19:30 |
| de-facto | "B.1.617.3 is defined by the spike protein changes T19R, Δ157-158, L452R, E484Q, D614G, P681R, and D950N." | 19:30 |
| de-facto | note: T478K only appears in B.1.617.2 and that one dominates over the other two e.g. in India | 19:31 |
| de-facto | founders effect or increased transmissibility? | 19:31 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: 123,000 death certificates issued in last 71 days in Indian state of Gujarat. Government registered only 4218 covid deaths. → https://is.gd/RL08Aq | 19:32 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Italy: +7562 cases (now 4.1 million), +182 deaths (now 123927) since 23 hours ago | 19:33 |
| de-facto | "The location of S:T478K in the interaction complex with human ACE2 may affect the affinity with human cells and therefore influence viral infectivity." | 19:35 |
| LjL | de-facto, 123000 death certificates against against 58000 in the same period last year, so 65000 likely COVID deaths in Gujarat, compared to the official number of 4218, would be 15x as much | 19:36 |
| de-facto | ugh that would be astronomically more than the stats suggest | 19:39 |
| -RSSBot[LjLmatrix- Feed: Concorso a 40 (elevati a 60) posti di referendario di T.A.R. anno 2021: rinvio del diario delle prove scritte ( https://www.governo.it/it/articolo/concorso-40-elevati-60-posti-di-referendario-di-tar-anno-2021-rinvio-del-diario-delle-prove ) | 19:53 | |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Did the coronavirus escape from a lab? The idea deserves a second look, scientists say → https://is.gd/dvMxjc | 19:53 |
| LjL | and a third | 19:54 |
| LjL | reminder of what WHO used to tweet: "FACT: #COVID19 is NOT airborne." | 19:57 |
| dTal | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27151905 | 20:00 |
| Brainstorm | New from Politico: Coronavirus: Boris Johnson hints at ‘hard choices’ as Indian coronavirus variant spreads → https://is.gd/0zQSie | 20:04 |
| LjL | de-facto, dTal, meanwhile, Italy is reopening in all regions except one from Monday, and it is also re-allowing foreigners from Schengen *and the UK* to enter without a quarantine | 20:05 |
| * pwr22 uploaded an image: (257KiB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/shortestpath.dev/BIfKQyWSyOugDUOfFmUxuVrs/Screenshot_20210514-190017.jpg > | 20:05 | |
| LjL | let's get that Indian variant going | 20:05 |
| pwr22 | LjL de-facto /\ | 20:06 |
| pwr22 | Hopefully it'll be possible to change the reply format in here soon! | 20:06 |
| dTal | what do you mean | 20:06 |
| LjL | pwr22, i hope so... but even more importantly the editing behavior | 20:06 |
| pwr22 | 😄 | 20:07 |
| LjL | pwr22, this is a screenshot i took yesterday to demonstrate to that person how atrocious their *one* message ended up looking on IRC: https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/huKZxJtJvZylaECZJQEVmlZg/Screenshot%20from%202021-05-14%2000-19-38.png | 20:08 |
| LjL | and when i asked them (nicely) to avoid that, someone else also connecting from matrix went "aren't you like the only irc user in here that is active?" | 20:08 |
| LjL | which i'm not, but also, that's an *IRC channel*, with only a Matrix room i created myself for convenience | 20:09 |
| pwr22 | Lol how many times did they edit that? | 20:09 |
| LjL | it rubs me the wrong way that people end up taking that as an excuse to be able to say they're now the majority and so who cares if IRC users end up screwed, even though a lot of "Matrix users" just started using it as an IRC bridge | 20:09 |
| pwr22 | That is terrible yeah | 20:09 |
| LjL | i have a feeling at some point Matrix and freenode will break up and then i don't know what will happen to all the plumbed rooms | 20:10 |
| pwr22 | I avoid edits and replies in bridged rooms | 20:10 |
| bin_bash | i hate matrix which is why i have *!*@*matrix* banned from my channel lol | 20:10 |
| pwr22 | That's nice | 20:11 |
| LjL | pwr22, but you're a drop in the sea. i think it would be sensible to make edits and replies (but especially edits) an opt-outable feature per-room | 20:11 |
| LjL | for example i don't think edits are a good thing in a chat, even regardless of the IRC "issue" | 20:11 |
| LjL | so in my rooms i would just disable that. but i can't. | 20:11 |
| pwr22 | <LjL "Peter, but you're a drop in the "> Yeah, I mean it's not even clear which rooms are bridged and stuff and a lot of people won't understand that they are | 20:11 |
| LjL | bin_bash, i think that (and stating it like that) doesn't help make things any friendlier | 20:12 |
| pwr22 | Which is kind of ok and the aim, but not if it makes it a harder time for other platforms | 20:12 |
| LjL | pwr22, yes that's why when i point it out to people like that person yesterday (the original one, not the one who objected later), they usually apologize and then i tell them there is no need to apologize because they just didn't know. but it's a little dance that can end up having to happen a bit too often | 20:13 |
| LjL | i put it in the topic of that particular room now, but IRC experience teaches that nobody reads topics :P | 20:13 |
| bin_bash | LjL: well, to be fair i'm not concerned with friendliness | 20:13 |
| pwr22 | That's also nice 😅 | 20:14 |
| LjL | :\ | 20:14 |
| bin_bash | i'm a nice person, but i don't know if i'd be considered a friendly person. i'm more standoffish | 20:16 |
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| Brainstorm | New from Bloom Lab: @NKWhiteman: RT by @jbloom_lab: I fully agree with this letter from @jbloom_lab @ras_nielsen @StearnsLab and others on need for a scientific inquiry on origins of SARS-CoV-2: "We must take hypotheses about both natural and laboratory spillovers seriously until we have sufficient data." https://science.sciencemag.org/content/372/6543/694.1 → https://is.gd/dyInrK | 21:50 |
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| CoronaBot | /r/coronavirus: First real world data out of Italy, based on 37,000 vaccinated people. One dose of AZ has 99% efficacy against severe disease/hospitalization, and 100% efficacy against death (only 1 vaccinated person died and was 96 years old). (10080 votes) | https://www.repubblica.it/cronaca/2021/05/13/news/primi_dati_sull_efficacia_dei_vaccini_in_italia_contagi_giu_del_95_casi_gravi_del_99_-300820163/ | https://redd.it/nc5nd3 | 22:28 |
| Brainstorm | New from FDA Press Releases: FDA: Coronavirus (COVID-19) Update: May 14, 2021 → https://is.gd/dVJcBh | 22:33 |
| gigasu_shida | wow, 99% efficacy | 22:44 |
| de-facto | thats why i keep saying, efficacy against death or severe progression is much better than against symptomatic or asymptomatic infections | 22:55 |
| gigasu_shida | yes | 22:56 |
| gigasu_shida | damn i didn't think it would be that good being that it's not a mRNA vax | 22:56 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Rwanda: +182 cases (now 26033), +3 deaths (now 343) since 20 hours ago — Zimbabwe: +67 cases (now 38535) since 21 hours ago — Eswatini: +14 cases (now 18511) since a day ago | 23:04 |
| de-facto | .title https://www.italy24news.com/covid-19/52534.html | 23:04 |
| Brainstorm | de-facto, the URL could not be loaded | 23:04 |
| de-facto | Efficacy of 95% of vaccines against Covid-19 with peaks of 100% already with the first dose of AstraZeneca”. The first Italian study on real-world data conducted by the University of Ferrara | 23:05 |
| Arsanerit | Is there anything known yet about efficacy against long covid? | 23:10 |
| de-facto | but 100% makes me a bit suspicious, there is no such thing as 100% in science | 23:10 |
| de-facto | i want ot see their data | 23:11 |
| LjL | Italians talking about things being 100%, what's not to believe | 23:16 |
| LjL | The Genoa bridge was 100% safe | 23:16 |
| LjL | Have you also evaluated the effectiveness on the basis of the number of doses administered? | 23:23 |
| LjL | Yes, with a single dose the effectiveness of Pfizer decreased, reaching about 70%, while that of Moderna remained very high even with one dose. As for AstraZeneca (which was 100% effective) we only tested one dose because no one had been vaccinated with two doses (the vaccine was approved later). | 23:23 |
| LjL | I find that quite hard to believe | 23:23 |
| Brainstorm | New from Reddit (test): Covid2019: ovid: Indian variant poses threat to 21 June lockdown easing, Boris Johnson - BBC News → https://is.gd/7lHRaD | 23:26 |
| rpifan | good | 23:26 |
| de-facto | LjL, havent found their paper with a quick google search | 23:28 |
| de-facto | maybe still in the pipeline? | 23:28 |
| LjL | Maybe they have the data in their minds but have yet to write it down :p | 23:31 |
| LjL | Also, note the above thing about Boris Johnston's announcement | 23:31 |
| LjL | Contrast that with Italy reopening to Britons without a quarantine | 23:31 |
| LjL | Slow clap to Italy | 23:31 |
| Arsanerit | The Genoa bridge was a lot more than 99.99% safe! | 23:32 |
| LjL | Not false | 23:34 |
| de-facto | lol you guys :P | 23:39 |
| waitingformagic | Good evening | 23:54 |
| LjL | hi | 23:55 |
| waitingformagic | I trust this message finds you well ? | 23:55 |
| LjL | my government (and others) are trying hard to thwart that, but i seem to be okay for now | 23:56 |
| waitingformagic | jolly good show | 23:56 |
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