| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Manipur-based Kishorechandra Wangkhem was arrested for saying that cow dung and cow urine do not cure COVID-19 → https://is.gd/6x3Kt3 | 00:00 |
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| CoronaBot | /r/coronavirus: Several states report zero COVID deaths for the first time in months (10067 votes) | https://www.axios.com/covid-deaths-zero-states-2ccdd285-6600-43a3-8734-3d5efa4ba912.html | https://redd.it/nf9fum | 00:29 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Lancet (Online): [Department of Error] Department of Error: Shaw RH, Stuart A, Greenland M, et al. Heterologous prime-boost COVID-19 vaccination: initial reactogenicity data. Lancet 2021; published online May 12. https://doi.org/10.1016/S0140-6736(21)01115-6—In this Correspondence, the affiliation details for RHS, AS, MG, XL, and MDS [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/Gbjfnd | 00:41 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Argentina: +23674 cases (now 3.4 million), +744 deaths (now 71771) since 22 hours ago | 01:10 |
| finely[m] | <ryouma "i was asked by an unhygienic per"> The wired article mentioned an article in nature, and the WHO changed its official advice. | 01:58 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Germany: +7604 cases (now 3.6 million) since 19 hours ago | 02:00 |
| Brainstorm | New from Reddit (test): nCoV: Covid-19: Nothing conclusive on changing roadmap, Boris Johnson says | 18MAY21 → https://is.gd/M0nDvb | 02:06 |
| LjL | <CarlSagan_> [Ars Technica - Science] Shake-up reported at the CDC; two high-profile officials depart https://arstechnica.com/?p=1765994 2021-05-18T23:41:44 | 02:16 |
| LjL | de-facto, https://old.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/nfpp1m/the_coronavirus_variant_that_first_emerged_in/gymyeg9/ | 02:34 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for France: +5140 cases (now 5.9 million) since 22 hours ago — Netherlands: +2755 cases (now 1.6 million), +8 deaths (now 17595) since 22 hours ago | 02:37 |
| de-facto | lovely, what they are breeding there in a halt vaccinated population, good start with such a virulent strain | 03:02 |
| de-facto | *half vaccinated | 03:02 |
| de-facto | .title https://covid19.sanger.ac.uk/lineages/raw?show=B.1.617.2&lineage=B.1.617.2&colorBy=p | 03:04 |
| Brainstorm | de-facto: From covid19.sanger.ac.uk: COVID-19 Genomic Surveillance â Wellcome Sanger Institute | 03:04 |
| de-facto | dark red and darker means its the dominant strain | 03:04 |
| de-facto | (over 50% proportion) | 03:05 |
| de-facto | LjL, your link is broken there | 03:11 |
| de-facto | and also this one is quite interesting | 03:11 |
| de-facto | https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/publications-data/threat-assessment-emergence-sars-cov-2-b1617-variants | 03:11 |
| de-facto | .title | 03:11 |
| Brainstorm | de-facto: From www.ecdc.europa.eu: Threat Assessment Brief: Emergence of SARS-CoV-2 B.1.617 variants in India and situation in the EU/EEA | 03:11 |
| LjL | oh :( | 03:17 |
| LjL | i guess no one but you actually clicked on the link ;( | 03:17 |
| LjL | but... wait, which link, sanger? because it works for me (and so does youtube really) | 03:18 |
| LjL | anyway i've changed my link to your link and added the ECDC | 03:24 |
| de-facto | nice | 03:28 |
| ryouma | which wired article? also which advice? thanks. --- 16:58 <finely[m]> <ryouma "i was asked by an unhygienic per"> The wired article mentioned an article in nature, and the WHO changed its official advice. | 03:28 |
| LjL | ryouma, they probably meant this Wired article https://www.wired.com/story/the-teeny-tiny-scientific-screwup-that-helped-covid-kill/?utm_source=pocket-newtab | 03:33 |
| LjL | and as to the WHO, near the concluding paragraphs of that article, it says "On Friday, April 30, the WHO quietly updated a page on its website. In a section on how the coronavirus gets transmitted, the text now states that the virus can spread via aerosols as well as larger droplets." | 03:34 |
| LjL | but it would take some archive.org sleuthing to spot the change, i guess, since neither the WHO nor the CDC (which also made a similar change) advertized it, they just did it silently | 03:34 |
| LjL | if you want "a scientific paper", i guess https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3829873 would be it | 03:35 |
| LjL | but then someone could reply "oh there's tons of papers with all sorts of viewpoints" so maybe best to just provide them the Wired article with all its references | 03:35 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for New Caledonia: +1 cases (now 125) since 16 days ago | 03:39 |
| LjL | de-facto, we're getting rid of curfew btw (slowly, it's moving to 23 then to 24 then going away) | 03:50 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID19 Vaccine Tracker: Shannon McKearnan: AnGes: AG0301-COVID19 → https://is.gd/HrYyfo | 03:51 |
| ryouma | thank you. recipient knows that it is aerosols but thinks short distances and indoors don't matter much. | 03:57 |
| ryouma | this looks like ineresting: "Part of medical rhetoric is understanding why certain ideas take hold and others don’t. So as spring turned to summer, Randall started to investigate how Wells’ contemporaries perceived him." | 03:57 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Sint Maarten: +15 cases (now 2307) since a day ago | 04:04 |
| LjL | ryouma, "aerosols" can be used to mean so many things, but the whole point in this article is that if you're indoors, there's no reason why it wouldn't travel relatively long distances, at least without proper air flow/filtration | 04:10 |
| ryouma | it looks like a good article. one case in question was unmasked unvaccinated outside just outside an open door. | 04:12 |
| Brainstorm | New from Politico: North Macedonia PM: EU risks losing sway in Balkans: Frustration over blocked membership talks and vaccine deliveries gives Russia and China a chance, Zoran Zaev says. → https://is.gd/MGlLzo | 04:12 |
| ryouma | i remember the whole thing being reported int his channel. so to read about it afterward with the possible source of it is inte3resting. although it was claimed at the time that it was deliberate misinformation for hcw. | 04:13 |
| ryouma | i.e. pretend it is not airborne so nobody hoards ppe like tp and then hcw and their supply lines will have time to catch hup and get in a supply of them or so. which is still lying. | 04:14 |
| ryouma | and fauci expressed no remorse saying it was the right decision much later in some interview but idr the claim for it then | 04:15 |
| LjL | ryouma, yeah, although the parts in this article where this researcher retells how she was rebuffed "rudely" by CDC people makes me wonder if it was to avoid PPE hoarding, or they were just too arrogant to admit they might be wrong | 04:17 |
| LjL | anyhow, i'm not impressed, since even if Fauci thought it was the right decision, well, i don't, i think lying to people (in a way they notice, too) doesn't pay off even if it's for a short-term "noble goal" | 04:18 |
| ryouma | i am inclined to agree | 04:18 |
| ryouma | it might come up in grand juries or parliamentary investigations for all we know | 04:19 |
| ryouma | although idk in detail what checks and balances exist for the who | 04:20 |
| ryouma | one thing about the cdc is it is insulated from criticism. it is in atlanta quite distant from practically everything else in md/dc/va. | 04:20 |
| LjL | an Italian WHO person said something in one of those old press conferences Italy had daily that seemed to indirectly be saying "the US CDC have members in the WHO and they're telling us what we can and canno say", to paraphrase a bit bluntly | 04:24 |
| ryouma | that is insane. perhaps slightly believable because the us has withheld funding from (idk which level) or so. | 04:25 |
| ryouma | that makes a mockery of the w | 04:26 |
| LjL | my paraphrasing might be extreme, let me see if i can find the actual (translated) quote, pretty sure i transcribed it on github | 04:26 |
| ryouma | the cdc definitely have EXTREMELY EXTREMELY EXTREMELY EXTREMELY arrogant members | 04:28 |
| ryouma | i can at least say that | 04:28 |
| ryouma | in any case the us does withhold from particular un agencies | 04:28 |
| LjL | i think this is the relevant part | 04:31 |
| LjL | Q: Every time Trump attacks the WHO, you are here at these press conferences. I don't know if it's coincidental. Concretely, what does the US withdrawing funding from the WHO changing? In the short term and the long? My other question is: the situation in Lombardy and Milan, despite mitigation, are probably even spiking more compared to other regions... My doubt is that maybe too many work activities have actually remained open, with self-certifications, | 04:31 |
| LjL | and exceptions... So the most productive and dynamic regions are still paying the highest toll. I find it hard to believe that the continued infections are just due to people jogging or shopping. | 04:31 |
| LjL | A: (Laughter) Yes, well, every time there is a "muscle show" by someone, here I come, trying to reason. | 04:31 |
| LjL | First, we must see if this threat actually becomes reality. | 04:31 |
| LjL | Let me say something: there is a misunderstanding on self-control of the WHO. We have two control and government organs, which are both made up of member states. The WHO doesn't have decisional autonomy on what it wants to do: it can only decide based on what the World Health Assembly and the Executive Board indicate as priority, and that's decided by the states, those are the goals and benchmarks that the WHO gets measured on. | 04:31 |
| LjL | There are governance elements within the WHO that are extremely specific, both on financial aspects and results. | 04:31 |
| LjL | These are things that must be understood, or one thinks that the General Director can just declare a pandemic when he decides. Not so. There is a procedure, there is an emergency committee that evaluates things based on available information and evidence, and based on the informational system that members states make available. | 04:31 |
| LjL | Indications are provided on this basis. Now: the United States are the main contributor not just of economic resources, but also personnel! 25 people from the CDC are working at the WHO, integrated with the other personnel. It's a technical and scientific cooperation that never ends. We are in continuous contact with the American NIH about drugs, vaccines, research and so on... | 04:31 |
| LjL | So you know, one thing is what the administrator can release to the press, or request in terms of evaluations... The same happened with Ebola: asking an independent commission to go and see what actually happened, and improve the Agency's abilities, as we all want... that's not taboo. It was done in the past, but from my point of view it's secondary, as from my point of view, the Agency's actions are transparent and seen by everyone. | 04:32 |
| LjL | Ask yourselves a qusetion: what would have happened had the WHO not existed? | 04:32 |
| LjL | (whoops, looked shorter in github with unwrapped lines!) | 04:32 |
| LjL | "Now: the United States are the main contributor not just of economic resources, but also personnel! 25 people from the CDC are working at the WHO [...] So you know, one thing is what the administrator can release to the press, or request in terms of evaluations..." | 04:33 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express: World: US Congressman praises PM Modi’s efforts during Covid crisis → https://is.gd/NlIoZa | 04:34 |
| ryouma | who is talking? | 04:35 |
| LjL | %tr <it Ranieri Guerra (Verona, 5 giugno 1953) è un medico italiano. Ex direttore generale dell'ufficio di Prevenzione del Ministero della Salute, attualmente ricopre il ruolo di direttore vicario dell’Organizzazione Mondiale della Sanità[1]. | 04:37 |
| Brainstorm | LjL, Italian to English: Ranieri Guerra (born 5 June 1953) is an Italian physician. Former Director General of the Prevention Office of the Ministry of Health, he currently holds the role of vicar director of the World Health Organization. (MyMemory) [... want %more?] | 04:37 |
| ryouma | wired has good reporting ther eit seems. oh the writer is at stat news. | 04:38 |
| ryouma | (and a degree from the same place tuller is) | 04:39 |
| finely[m] | <LjL "ryouma, yeah, although the parts"> I would be inclined to be more generous. When the scientific consensus is wrong, it can take a a lot to change it. If the incorrect idea is taught by every institution for decades (as it was here) it becomes 'fact'. It took a historian to work out why this incorrect idea was orthodoxy before the consensus could change. See Kuhn's theory if scientific revolution. | 04:53 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express: World: Singapore rejects Kejriwal’s tweet on ‘very dangerous’ COVID-19 strain in the country → https://is.gd/LlYFz2 | 05:17 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Nicaragua: +107 cases (now 7193), +1 deaths (now 185) since 6 days ago | 05:31 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express (Health): Fitness: Pandemic fitness: Ankita Konwar shares what’s keeping her ‘sane’ in these times → https://is.gd/ztIC6n | 05:48 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Belgium: +1819 cases (now 1.0 million), +26 deaths (now 24749) since 23 hours ago | 06:08 |
| ryouma | i can't infer from the wired article what the cdc person's motivations were | 06:09 |
| ryouma | it's clear however just looking at the cdc website that it is not about to declare loudly that it was wrong | 06:16 |
| ryouma | that is not something the cdc does. and it is something tha tthe cdc should do. | 06:16 |
| Brainstorm | New from Reddit (test): CoronaVirus_2019_nCoV: COVID vaccine protection may be weaker in some cancer patients. But experts say they should still get vaccinated. → https://is.gd/tf504o | 06:20 |
| finely[m] | <ryouma "that is not something the cdc do"> Yes, especially when the stakes are so high. Pandemics absolutely need clear, consistent, correct messaging. And a willingness to change the message when better evidence comes in. | 06:23 |
| ryouma | and change it loudly, not on the sly | 06:23 |
| ryouma | or maybe more accurately transparently firmly clearly or so | 06:24 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Germany: +188 deaths (now 86850) since 23 hours ago | 06:33 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Tokyo doctors call for Olympics to be cancelled over COVID surge → https://is.gd/e4Tsai | 06:42 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Mato Grosso, Brazil: +3887 cases (now 651577), +96 deaths (now 16615) since 23 hours ago — Santa Catarina, Brazil: +3703 cases (now 933324), +119 deaths (now 14584) since 23 hours ago — Goias, Brazil: +3252 cases (now 584152), +132 deaths (now 16246) since 23 hours ago — Vaestra Goetaland, Sweden: +2239 cases (now 182679), +2 deaths (now 2331) since 4 days ago | 07:35 |
| Brainstorm | New from Reddit (test): Covid2019: New Data from Vaxart Oral COVID-19 Vaccine Phase I Study Suggests Broad Cross-Reactivity against Other Coronaviruses | showed cross-reactivity against diverse endemic coronaviruses such as 229E, NL63, HKU1, and OC43 → https://is.gd/8HaDHY | 07:35 |
| Brainstorm | New from Reddit (test): CoronaVirus_2019_nCoV: A COVID-19 long-hauler's journey: How vaccines are giving hope for full recovery → https://is.gd/NkguJ9 | 08:07 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Bolivia: +2617 cases (now 337441), +69 deaths (now 13635) since a day ago | 08:13 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express: World: Why is COVID killing so many young children in Brazil? Doctors are baffled → https://is.gd/TgZbZ9 | 08:28 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: India | Manipur based journalist arrested for saying cow dung and cow urine do not cure Covid-19 → https://is.gd/tsYP7w | 08:39 |
| Brainstorm | New from Reddit (test): China_Flu: Coronavirus: Taiwan raises alert level for entire island after 267 more local cases reported. Covid-19 has spread to at least five hospitals, including the island’s top medical centre, National Taiwan University Hospital. → https://is.gd/wma1V5 | 08:49 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for India: +267334 cases (now 25.5 million), +4072 deaths (now 281748) since 16 hours ago | 09:02 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Daily Discussion Thread | May 19, 2021: Please refer to our Wiki for more information on COVID-19 and our sub. You can find answers to frequently asked questions in our FAQ , where there is valuable information such as our: → https://is.gd/EZXLk6 | 09:11 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: COVID-19 second wave: India loses 269 doctors so far; Bihar, UP, Delhi report most casualties → https://is.gd/BQaAcW | 09:32 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Taiwan: +273 cases (now 2533) since a day ago | 09:40 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express (Health): Health: What to do when post-Covid symptoms linger months after recovery → https://is.gd/yH95NW | 09:53 |
| Brainstorm | New from Medical Xpress: After six months, French cafes, museums and cinemas reopen: The French are expected to flock to restaurants, museums and cinemas when they reopen on Wednesday, but bad weather and social distancing may cast a pall over scenes of people toasting a return to semi-normality after months of COVID-19 curbs. → https://is.gd/NX0tQV | 10:15 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: India's holiest river Ganges is swollen with Covid victims → https://is.gd/Jb4pFR | 10:26 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Meghalaya, India: +906 cases (now 24872), +19 deaths (now 355) since 23 hours ago — Tripura, India: +879 cases (now 42776), +5 deaths (now 450) since 23 hours ago — Arunachal Pradesh, India: +356 cases (now 22462), +3 deaths (now 88) since a day ago — Lakshadweep, India: +226 cases (now 5212), +1 deaths (now 15) since 23 hours ago | 10:30 |
| Brainstorm | New from StatNews: Health: How the Covid pandemic ends: Scientists look to the past to see the future → https://is.gd/jGycTA | 10:36 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Lancet (Online): [Correspondence] An acute-on-chronic health crisis in Gaza: The Palestinian Gaza Strip is a 365 km2 piece of land on the eastern coast of the Mediterranean, inhabited by more than 2 million Palestinians. This open-air enclave has been under siege for the past 14 years, which has left the health system jeopardised by [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/BNh1CY | 10:47 |
| Brainstorm | New from StatNews: Opinion: Beyond a symbolic gesture: What’s needed to turn the IP waiver into Covid-19 vaccines: Turning an intellectual property waiver for Covid-19 vaccines into vaccine doses will require mobilization, investment, and advocacy for tech transfers, upgraded manufacturing capability, and strengthened supply chains. → https://is.gd/NIxdtM | 10:58 |
| Brainstorm | New from EMA: What's new: PIP: Opinion/decision on a Paediatric investigation plan (PIP): SARS-CoV2 prefusion Spike delta TM (CoV-2 preS dTM) adjuvanted with AS03, decision type: , therapeutic area: , PIP number: P/0201/2021 → https://is.gd/xwnsWy | 11:32 |
| Brainstorm | New from EMA: What's new: PIP: Opinion/decision on a Paediatric investigation plan (PIP): Comirnaty,highly purified single-stranded, 5’-capped mRNA encoding full-length SARS-CoV-2 spike protein (BNT162b2), decision type: , therapeutic area: , PIP number: P/0179/2021 → https://is.gd/JRqfHM | 11:42 |
| Brainstorm | New from BMJ: Post-covid reforms: can we avoid fighting the last war?: Covid-19 has exposed glaring gaps in the global system for preventing, detecting, and responding to potential pandemics. Attention to, and political momentum for, reform is building with a series of... → https://is.gd/lDwgIe | 11:53 |
| Brainstorm | New from NPR: Do People Need To Know Which COVID-19 Vaccine They're Getting? One Country Says No: The Philippines is going "brand agnostic" after a vaccination site was swarmed this week when people found out Pfizer doses were to be given out. → https://is.gd/7AqM6a | 12:03 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Finland: +289 cases (now 90687) since a day ago | 12:09 |
| localjo[m] | <Brainstorm "New from NPR: Do People Need To "> This makes sense. There's a lot of drama in Europe about which vaccines are "accepted" or not. It's making people hold out for "better" vaccines, when people could be getting vaccinated much faster to put an end to the pandemic. | 12:10 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Malaysia: +6075 cases (now 485496), +46 deaths (now 2040) since 22 hours ago | 12:34 |
| Brainstorm | New from BBC Health: Malawi burns thousands of Covid-19 vaccine doses: Health officials hope the event will increase public confidence in getting the vaccination. → https://is.gd/r9xS69 | 12:58 |
| Brainstorm | New from WHO Euro: Anticipating health workforce and hospital needs to plan for a better COVID-19 response in Kyrgyzstan: Two WHO tools, developed to forecast requirements for health workforce surge capacity and hospital bed availability during the COVID-19 pandemic, were tailored to fit the context of the response in Kyrgyzstan. → https://is.gd/Gvqo8Q | 13:09 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express (Health): Destination of the week: Grand day for the French: Cafe and bistro terraces reopen → https://is.gd/kvoSgx | 13:31 |
| Brainstorm | New from BBC Health: Covid: WHO urges Wales to delay giving children jabs: Wales asked to donate vaccines to low-income countries by the World Health Organization. → https://is.gd/NuqTBb | 14:04 |
| Brainstorm | New from Science-Based Medicine: The Causes of Vaccine Hesitancy: The vaccine hesitant are now the front lines of the battle to contain COVID. The post first appeared on Science-Based Medicine . → https://is.gd/G2GCJr | 14:15 |
| Brainstorm | New from Politico: All the different travel advice UK ministers have given: The government has been accused of sending mixed messages as a new 'traffic light' system for COVID got going. → https://is.gd/RRbxQi | 14:26 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Switzerland: +2794 cases (now 684954) since 23 hours ago — Bangladesh: +1089 cases (now 783218), +37 deaths (now 12248) since 22 hours ago | 14:39 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express (Health): Health: COVID-19: Doctors explain why young people are getting more affected in second wave → https://is.gd/sRd6oA | 14:59 |
| * darsie is off to irc.libera.chat . bye. | 15:27 | |
| rpifan | yea | 15:28 |
| dTal | good luck, it's dead | 15:30 |
| rpifan | i cannot connect | 15:31 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Nepal: +8064 cases (now 480418), +246 deaths (now 5657) since a day ago | 16:06 |
| Brainstorm | New from Medical Xpress: Malaysia logs record virus cases, warns situation 'dire': Malaysia on Wednesday reported a record 6,075 coronavirus cases in a single day, with authorities warning of a "dire" situation as hospitals rapidly fill up in the worst-hit areas. → https://is.gd/dC6dpa | 16:17 |
| rpifan | im on | 16:18 |
| CoronaBot | /r/covid19: SARS-CoV-2 infects human pancreatic β-cells and elicits β-cell impairment (82 votes) | https://www.cell.com/cell-metabolism/fulltext/S1550-4131(21)00230-8 | https://redd.it/ng2853 | 16:24 |
| Brainstorm | New from StatNews: STAT+: Emergent was aware of vaccine manufacturing issues even as it collected $27 million a month from U.S.: Emergent BioSolutions was paid $27 million in monthly “reservation fees” to maintain its “readiness” to make Covid-19 vaccines, even as it was aware of manufacturing issues. → https://is.gd/FWEDqi | 16:28 |
| bin_bash | LjL: will this be moving to libera | 16:32 |
| rpifan | it should | 16:33 |
| rpifan | im already on that chan | 16:33 |
| bin_bash | same but he's the owner and owns the bots i believe | 16:38 |
| Brainstorm | New from Medical Xpress: Number of U.S. kids hospitalized with COVID is likely overcounted: The actual number of U.S. children hospitalized due to COVID-19 may be lower than current figures suggest, a new study indicates. → https://is.gd/CFEB5I | 16:39 |
| xrogaan | LjL: ping, you around? | 16:51 |
| xrogaan | oops | 16:51 |
| xrogaan | somebody already did ping | 16:51 |
| Brainstorm | New from Medical Xpress: 3 lessons the COVID-19 pandemic can teach us about preventing chronic diseases: Forty-four percent of Canadian adults live with at least one chronic health condition such as heart disease, diabetes or a mood disorder. Up to 80 percent of these conditions can be prevented. → https://is.gd/xqbIAG | 17:00 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Germany: +181 deaths (now 86869) since 23 hours ago | 17:08 |
| Brainstorm | New from Reddit (test): nCoV: Explainer: The science behind Covid-19 being found in Wellington's wastewater | 17MAY21 → https://is.gd/3UlJmo | 17:12 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Sri Lanka: +3835 cases (now 150771) since 21 hours ago | 17:33 |
| Brainstorm | New from WebMD: First Case of COVID-19 Triggering Recurrent Clots in Arm: The report offers new insight into how the damage of inflammation caused by COVID-19 can linger and how best to treat recurring clots → https://is.gd/WLFALV | 17:35 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Italy: +350 cases (now 4.2 million) since 22 hours ago | 18:10 |
| Brainstorm | New from BBC Health: Third dose of Covid jab to be trialled in UK: The findings will help scientific advisers decide if re-vaccinating some people in the autumn is necessary. → https://is.gd/9hShlh | 18:19 |
| kreyren | LjL: are you also going to migrade ##covid-19 from freenode? https://www.kline.sh/ | 18:33 |
| LjL | kreyren, i am not in full knowledge of the situation yet so i cannot answer, but ##covid-19 is already registered there, and you can join if you want | 18:34 |
| kreyren | yaaay | 18:34 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Portugal: +511 cases (now 843278), +2 deaths (now 17013) since 22 hours ago — Uganda: +164 cases (now 43094), +1 deaths (now 350) since 19 hours ago — Zambia: +110 cases (now 92630) since 17 hours ago — Dem. Rep. Congo: +88 cases (now 30708) since a day ago | 18:35 |
| Brainstorm | New from Derek Lowe: @Dereklowe: The origin of the coronavirus pandemic is still very much an open question - it's important to realize that. I hope that we get an answer, but I also wonder if we ever will:https://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archives/2021/05/19/coronavirus-origins → https://is.gd/kS6jRX | 18:51 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Canada: +26 deaths (now 25015) since 23 hours ago | 19:00 |
| Brainstorm | New from Medical Xpress: Less than 1 percent of COVID-19 patients experience recurrence: (HealthDay)—For every 10,000 confirmed COVID-19 cases, there are approximately 4.3 recurrent cases, according to a study published online May 4 in PLOS ONE. → https://is.gd/ozv8kV | 19:13 |
| Brainstorm | New from Politico: French politicians celebrate ‘art de vivre’ as outdoor dining reopens: Paris reopened its terraces after months of coronavirus shutdown — and Macron's ministers were quick to grab a seat. → https://is.gd/AJ5YFC | 19:24 |
| Brainstorm | New from Medical Xpress: Case study suggests young people may be susceptible to chronic fatigue following COVID-19: With more adolescents and young adults being treated for COVID-19, clinicians are concerned that these people also will start showing post-COVID—or "long haul"—symptoms from their bouts with the virus. A recent Johns Hopkins Medicine [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/OB0dDc | 19:45 |
| Brainstorm | New from Gazzetta Ufficiale italiana: MINISTERO DELLA SALUTE - ORDINANZA 19 maggio 2021: Ulteriori misure urgenti in materia di contenimento e gestionedell'emergenza epidemiologica da COVID-19 in relazione alla finale diCoppa Italia «Tim Vision 2020/2021». (21A03151) → https://is.gd/kUycja | 20:17 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Spain: +6080 cases (now 3.6 million), +66 deaths (now 79568) since a day ago | 20:40 |
| Arsanerit | LjL: The end of the topic is broken off, at least for me it ends in (see https:// | 20:50 |
| LjL | Arsanerit: okay thank you, I will fix it later though because I'm outside on mobile now | 20:52 |
| Arsanerit | (I know what this is about though) | 20:53 |
| -RSSBot[LjLmatrix- Feed: Conferenza stampa del Presidente Draghi con i Ministri Franco e Orlando ( https://www.governo.it/it/articolo/conferenza-stampa-del-presidente-draghi-con-i-ministri-franco-e-orlando/16896 ) | 20:53 | |
| Brainstorm | New from NPR: Vaccinated Travelers Can Visit Europe, EU Ambassadors Decide: The new policy is expected to allow EU members to admit travelers from the U.S. and other countries where people have received vaccines that are authorized in the EU. → https://is.gd/JPyzee | 21:00 |
| rpifan | hm | 21:08 |
| LjL | pfft | 21:17 |
| de-facto | hey LjL hope you are not in too much stress, thank you for all your efforts | 21:18 |
| LjL | de-facto, i don't handle pressure very well. i just had a walk. not really relaxed. but it's a small thing in the grand scheme of things. | 21:25 |
| LjL | thanks for asking | 21:25 |
| -RSSBot[LjLmatrix- Feed: Consiglio dei Ministri n. 20 ( https://www.governo.it/it/articolo/consiglio-dei-ministri-n-20/16893 ) | 21:28 | |
| -RSSBot[LjLmatrix- Feed: Convocazione del Consiglio dei Ministri n. 20 ( https://www.governo.it/it/articolo/convocazione-del-consiglio-dei-ministri-n-20/16894 ) | 21:28 | |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Germany: +175 deaths (now 86895) since 23 hours ago — France: +94 deaths (now 107934) since 23 hours ago | 21:30 |
| Brainstorm | New from StatNews: Pharma: STAT+: Republican lawmakers tell Biden to reverse ‘disastrous decision’ to support Covid-19 IP waiver → https://is.gd/6zwOWe | 22:05 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for India: +269042 cases (now 25.5 million), +4246 deaths (now 283041) since 23 hours ago | 22:07 |
| ryouma | note the headline. long covid is not being tired and the very first par more or less said so. --- 10:45 <Brainstorm> New from Medical Xpress: Case study suggests young people may be susceptible to chronic fatigue following COVID-19... | 22:17 |
| ryouma | not -> not the same as | 22:18 |
| ryouma | if the lc population did not have smart and informed members, copllaborating with knowledgeable disease populations, it would be extremely screwed | 22:19 |
| ryouma | (although first par also got stuff wrong) | 22:20 |
| Brainstorm | New from Reddit (test): CoronaVirus_2019_nCoV: Bikers and students: India's COVID volunteers → https://is.gd/bnkgmS | 22:37 |
| Brainstorm | New from CIDRAP: News Scan for May 19, 2021: Long-haul COVID-19 COVID-19 racial disparities CWD at deer carcass dump site → https://is.gd/DyaZDD | 22:49 |
| Brainstorm | New from CIDRAP: COVID hot spots persist in Latin American countries: Lisa Schnirring | News Editor | CIDRAP News May 19, 2021 Argentina reported record deaths, as COVID activity continues to flare in places like Brazil, some apots in Central America, and some Caribbean islands. → https://is.gd/pTcRbF | 22:59 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for South Africa: +3522 cases (now 1.6 million), +167 deaths (now 55507) since a day ago | 23:40 |
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