| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: South Africa faces third COVID wave, returns to stricter lockdown → https://is.gd/ZiGBnd | 00:14 |
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| Brainstorm | Updates for Canada: +1872 cases (now 1.4 million), +27 deaths (now 25491) since 22 hours ago | 00:36 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Sudan: +206 cases (now 35495), +30 deaths (now 2630) since 5 days ago | 02:03 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Netherlands: +2208 cases (now 1.7 million), +5 deaths (now 17755) since 22 hours ago — United Kingdom: +2366 cases (now 4.5 million), +5 deaths (now 127908) since 22 hours ago | 02:40 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Wuhan Lab Leak Called Viable Possible Cause for COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/nbZIYL | 02:41 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Vietnam detects new COVID-19 variant, hybrid of India, U.K. strains → https://is.gd/Mmukpf | 03:45 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express: World: Mass vaccination creates healthy oasis in Brazilian city → https://is.gd/DBxH3t | 04:06 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express: World: British intelligence believes COVID-19 lab leak theory ‘feasible’: Report → https://is.gd/m8ckug | 04:49 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Belgium: +1437 cases (now 1.1 million), +19 deaths (now 24940) since 23 hours ago — Guinea-Bissau: +5 cases (now 3766) since a day ago | 05:34 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express: World: As COVID rampages across Nepal, workers pay the price → https://is.gd/HPW8TQ | 06:03 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Australia's Victoria COVID-19 cluster swells to 51, next few days 'critical' → https://is.gd/VEA4GS | 06:14 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: COVID-19 sent Australia’s carbon emissions plummeting in 2020 to lowest levels in 30 years → https://is.gd/maVSC6 | 06:46 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express: World: ‘Like a dream’: Latin Americans head to US for COVID shots → https://is.gd/4LenOW | 06:57 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Taiwan approves $15.2 bln in new spending to deal with COVID-19 impact → https://is.gd/7JC2SS | 07:08 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Covid-19 has no credible natural ancestor: Study → https://is.gd/B1oYvI | 07:30 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Santander, Colombia: +1391 cases (now 132938), +42 deaths (now 4534) since a day ago — Buryatia, Russia: +83 cases (now 38417), +1 deaths (now 895) since a day ago — Arkhangel'sk, Russia: +70 cases (now 72954), +4 deaths (now 1190) since a day ago — Tambov, Russia: +56 cases (now 32797), +2 deaths (now 534) since a day ago | 07:33 |
| Brainstorm | New from Reddit (test): Covid2019: COVID-19 cases and deaths are down but rate of infection is the same as it was in December for unvaccinated → https://is.gd/f32OE2 | 07:40 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for India: +152734 cases (now 28.0 million), +3124 deaths (now 328066) since 15 hours ago | 08:41 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Brazil tops 400,000 COVID-19 deaths as coronavirus pandemic soars → https://is.gd/jF2Kcf | 08:54 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Daily Discussion Thread | May 31, 2021: Please refer to our Wiki for more information on COVID-19 and our sub. You can find answers to frequently asked questions in our FAQ , where there is valuable information such as our: → https://is.gd/tLsE2M | 09:05 |
| Brainstorm | New from Science-Based Medicine: The origin of SARS-CoV-2, revisited: Since early in the pandemic, scientists have overwhelmingly concluded that the evidence makes a natural origin for SARS-CoV-2, the coronavirus that causes COVID-19, a far more likely explanation for the pandemic than a laboratory origin. Over the last three weeks or so, however, [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/Y9txYG | 09:16 |
| Brainstorm | New from BBC Health: Covid-19: UK in early stages of third wave - scientist: Prof Ravi Gupta says there has been exponential growth in the number of new coronavirus cases. → https://is.gd/iI3scf | 09:48 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Taiwan: +351 cases (now 8511), +14 deaths (now 124) since 23 hours ago | 10:02 |
| jacklsw | damn, there's still waves of covid :( | 10:08 |
| zutt | unfortunately, yeah | 10:08 |
| -RSSBot[LjLmatrix- Feed: Il Presidente Draghi incontra il Primo Ministro libico Dabaiba ( https://www.governo.it/it/articolo/il-presidente-draghi-incontra-il-primo-ministro-libico-dabaiba/16959 ) | 10:09 | |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Manipur, India: +1032 cases (now 49882), +17 deaths (now 793) since a day ago | 10:40 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Around 2,000 foreigners, including U.S. soldiers in South Korea hold no-mask parties on Busan beach amid pandemic → https://is.gd/v67AfG | 11:34 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: North Korea still claiming it’s COVID-free in latest WHO report → https://is.gd/O3bbLt | 12:51 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express (Health): Health: A vaccine side effect leaves women wondering: why isn’t the pill safer? → https://is.gd/cuL8XQ | 13:35 |
| de-facto | .title https://www.mdpi.com/1999-4915/13/6/1043 | 14:19 |
| Brainstorm | de-facto: From www.mdpi.com: Viruses | Free Full-Text | Evaluation of Production Lots of a Rapid Point-of-Care Lateral Flow Serological Test Intended for Identification of IgM and IgG against the N-Terminal Part of the Spike [...] | 14:19 |
| Brainstorm | New from ECDC: Data on the daily number of new reported COVID-19 cases and deaths by EU/EEA country: The downloadable data file is updated daily and contains the latest available public data on COVID-19. Each row/entry contains the number of new cases and deaths reported per day and per country in the EU/EEA. → https://is.gd/tBASDi | 14:39 |
| yuta | de-facto: The Indian mutant strain accounts for 6.7% of those infected in Tokyo. | 15:32 |
| de-facto | oh ok well thats better than the graphs we talked about last time, those indicated a lot more indian strain | 15:43 |
| de-facto | is that representative (e.g. randomly taken from all positive tests in Tokyo)? | 15:44 |
| yuta | de-facto: no , worse. | 15:45 |
| yuta | de-facto: we talked about UK mutant. not indian. | 15:45 |
| yuta | replaced :P | 15:46 |
| -RSSBot[LjLmatrix- Feed: Il Presidente Draghi in visita in Emilia Romagna ( https://www.governo.it/it/articolo/il-presidente-draghi-visita-emilia-romagna/16962 ) | 15:49 | |
| de-facto | no we talked about B.1.617.2 from https://covariants.org/per-country the big green increase being https://covariants.org/variants/21A.S.478K hence B.1.617.2 (Indian mutant version 2 also on the rise on other countries unfortunately) | 15:51 |
| de-facto | UK variant is B.1.1.7 from https://covariants.org/per-country the big red peak that is https://covariants.org/variants/S.501Y.V1 (UK Variant B.1.1.7) | 15:53 |
| de-facto | so acutally we talked about both then :) | 15:54 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express: World: Singapore to start vaccinating 12-18 year-olds as PM outlines reopening plans → https://is.gd/cqPZNv | 15:55 |
| yuta | hold on de-facto | 15:58 |
| yuta | we don't know. really . that parcentage of india mutant.a | 15:59 |
| yuta | sad | 15:59 |
| de-facto | this is another example from Germany, the Indian Mutant B.1.617.2 also on the rise (the brown in the plot) | 16:01 |
| Arsanerit | Does B.1.617.2 escape the mRNA vaccines to a worrisome level? | 16:01 |
| de-facto | .title https://imgur.com/a/qD8nxBd https://i.imgur.com/qaqCmix.png source: https://www.rki.de/DE/Content/InfAZ/N/Neuartiges_Coronavirus/DESH/Bericht_VOC_2021-05-26.pdf?__blob=publicationFile | 16:01 |
| Brainstorm | de-facto: From imgur.com: COVID Germany: SARS-CoV-2-VoCs prevalence evolution - Album on Imgur | 16:01 |
| de-facto | Arsanerit, i dont think so | 16:01 |
| de-facto | btw that is somewhat representative, they took random samples afaik | 16:02 |
| yuta | brown is indian mutant? | 16:02 |
| yuta | green is another indian mutant ? | 16:02 |
| yuta | de-facto: | 16:02 |
| Arsanerit | I don't see from the covariants.org data if the B.1.617.2 variant is on the rise, seems to be still at 1%, which may indicate insufficient sampling | 16:02 |
| Arsanerit | But at 1% it seems to be too low to know for sure if there is community transmission? | 16:02 |
| Arsanerit | Why are there so few overall samples in the week starting 2021-05-17 for Germany? | 16:03 |
| de-facto | .title https://covid19.sanger.ac.uk/lineages/raw?show=B.1.617.2&lineage=B.1.617.2&colorBy=p <-- this here the Indian Mutant B.1.617.2 on the rise in UK | 16:03 |
| Brainstorm | de-facto: From covid19.sanger.ac.uk: COVID-19 Genomic Surveillance â Wellcome Sanger Institute | 16:03 |
| Arsanerit | I can see that B.1.617.2 is on the rise in the UK, and it's a shame it got imported in Germany, but I haven't seen data showing it's on the rise in Germany. | 16:04 |
| Brainstorm | New from Scientific American: Health: As the Pandemic Wanes, Sexually Transmitted Infections Are Likely to Rise → https://is.gd/C16EqR | 16:06 |
| de-facto | Arsanerit, have you looked at my link above? | 16:07 |
| de-facto | the brown area is increasing hence its on the rise | 16:07 |
| de-facto | unfortunately | 16:07 |
| Arsanerit | de-facto: The covariants.org one? I thought B.1.617.2 was the green area. | 16:08 |
| Arsanerit | You've posted 6 links in the past 15 minutes so I'm not entirely sure which one you mean. | 16:08 |
| de-facto | the imgur one | 16:09 |
| de-facto | another example would be the place where it was seen first; India itself | 16:09 |
| de-facto | .title https://imgur.com/a/AtgaZKQ https://i.imgur.com/7GVCuFj.png source: https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/sites/default/files/documents/Emergence-of-SARS-CoV-2-B.1.617-variants-in-India-and-situation-in-the-EUEEA.pdf | 16:09 |
| * de-facto pokes Brainstorm | 16:10 | |
| * Brainstorm starts to nauseate de-facto with some high-risk motormouth | 16:10 | |
| de-facto | lol post the title Brainstorm | 16:10 |
| de-facto | "COVID India: evolution of SARS-CoV-2 linages over time" | 16:10 |
| de-facto | so it pretty much is on the rise everywhere | 16:11 |
| yuta | de-facto: brown = africa mutant. green = india mutant. | 16:12 |
| Arsanerit | I'm looking at the Bericht from RKI. I see it in Table 2 now. So it's the B.1.617.2 that's increasing, but B.1.617.1 apparently no longer observed recently | 16:12 |
| de-facto | hmm ECDC moved their link its now here: https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/publications-data/threat-assessment-emergence-sars-cov-2-b1617-variants | 16:13 |
| Arsanerit | Not sure if 1.9% to 2.2% is a statistically significant increase at those sample sizes | 16:13 |
| de-facto | yeah B.1.617.2 is the worrisome | 16:13 |
| de-facto | its the first indication of possibility for a trend | 16:13 |
| Arsanerit | The increase from 0.1% to 1.9% is worrisome indeed. | 16:14 |
| de-facto | yuta South African Mutant is B.1.351, UK Mutant it B.1.1.7 and Indian Mutant is B.1.617.2 (and .1 and .3 which are irrelevant) | 16:14 |
| Arsanerit | I guess they're getting less samples when total infection rates are going down. | 16:16 |
| de-facto | yes hence proportions | 16:17 |
| de-facto | to be fair its not clear how much is breakthrough and how much happening in social bubbles that are not vaccinated yet (e.g. in UK) | 16:18 |
| de-facto | afaik tests showed vaccines work against it | 16:18 |
| de-facto | so most likely B.1.617.2 is even more reproductive than B.1.1.7 (as it dominates it in countries where immunity is not a major selective factor yet) and vaccine efficacy is a bit reduced (but maybe not as much as with B.1.351) | 16:20 |
| de-facto | in the end only time will tell (and maybe neutralization assays) | 16:21 |
| Arsanerit | even adenovirus vaccines? | 16:21 |
| Arsanerit | I thought adenivirus vaccine was only ~10% effective against it | 16:21 |
| Arsanerit | bbl | 16:21 |
| de-facto | hard to compare because all vaccines would have to be compared to the same Mutant at same time with same cohorts etc | 16:24 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express: World: UK may be in third wave of Covid: Experts warn govt ahead of ease in restrictions → https://is.gd/j4A18M | 16:50 |
| jacklsw | almost everywhere in the world has covid third wave | 16:50 |
| dTal | duh we're in a third wave look at the case graph | 16:56 |
| dTal | the last thing we want to be doing is opening back up | 16:56 |
| dTal | paradoxically I don't think the good weather is helping - I think it's pushing people into gatherings | 16:57 |
| Jigsy | %cases UK | 17:01 |
| Brainstorm | DBRunRecoveryError: (-30973, 'BDB0087 DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run database recovery -- BDB0060 PANIC: fatal region error detected; run recovery') (file "/usr/lib/python2.7/bsddb/__init__.py", line 270, in <lambda>) | 17:01 |
| Jigsy | ... | 17:01 |
| finely[m] | <Arsanerit "Does B.1.617.2 escape the mRNA v"> Anecdote of it infecting two Singaporean patients that had both Pfizer jabs in the recent airport cluster. | 17:12 |
| yuta | dTal> paradoxically I don't think the good weather is helping - I think it's pushing people into gatherings | 17:15 |
| yuta | dTal> paradoxically I don't think the good weather is helping - I think it's pushing people into gatherings | 17:15 |
| yuta | agree . | 17:15 |
| Brainstorm | New from Reddit (test): Monday 31 May 2021 Update: submitted by /u/HippolasCage to r/CoronavirusUK → https://is.gd/fsBoKs | 17:22 |
| Brainstorm | New from Emma Hodcroft: @mvankerkhove: RT by @firefoxx66: Today, @WHO announces new, easy-to-say labels for #SARSCoV2 Variants of Concern (VOCs) & Interest (VOIs)They will not replace existing scientific names, but are aimed to help in public discussion of VOI/VOCRead more here (will be live soon): [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/ZWwA2Y | 17:44 |
| Brainstorm | New from EMA: What's new: Herbal: Herbal medicinal product: Vaccinii macrocarpi fructus, Vaccinii macrocarpi fructus, P: Draft published → https://is.gd/gQwuNi | 17:55 |
| charade | "15,000 people will die per month and 175,000 in one year" in the US ; in '18/'19 est deaths from Flu were 35k/year | 18:07 |
| Arsanerit | jacklsw: Isn't 4th wave more common than 3rd wave by now? | 18:42 |
| Arsanerit | finely[m]: Not sure what anecdotes are worth. | 18:43 |
| Spec_ | no, we're still in the 3rd wave coffee movement, 4th wave is later | 18:44 |
| Brainstorm | New from EuroNews: (news): Fully vaccinated travellers should be exempted from restrictions, says Brussels → https://is.gd/1hgitk | 18:49 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express (Health): Destination of the week: Egypt bets on ancient finds to pull tourism out of pandemic → https://is.gd/veAXTD | 19:11 |
| finely[m] | <Arsanerit "finely: Not sure what anecdotes "> That's all we have at the moment until we get studies. Breakthrough could happen with any vaccine, but two happening at the same time for a variant is concerning. | 19:13 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: WHO announces Greek Alphabet labelling system for Covid-19 variants to remove stigma → https://is.gd/0PpVEn | 20:14 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: WHO announces new naming system for variants of Covid-19, using Greek letters: "We're not saying replace B.1.1.7, but really just to try to help some of the dialogue with the average person," Maria Van Kerkhove says → https://is.gd/0p7yae | 20:35 |
| LjL | oh lord | 20:37 |
| LjL | more naming systems, that's what we need! | 20:38 |
| Brainstorm | New from Medical Xpress: WHO switches to Greek alphabet for virus variant names: COVID-19 variants are to be known by letters of the Greek alphabet to avoid stigmatizing nations where they were first detected, the World Health Organization announced Monday. → https://is.gd/KaUuZ9 | 20:46 |
| whytek | <Brainstorm> DBRunRecoveryError: (-30973, 'BDB0087 DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run database recovery -- BDB0060 PANIC: fatal region error detected; run recovery') (file "/usr/lib/python2.7/bsddb/__init__.py", line 270, in <lambda>) | 20:59 |
| whytek | Good to see Brainstorm taking a welcome break from the usual :) | 21:00 |
| whytek | "fatal region error detected" hehe | 21:00 |
| whytek | That would be... | 21:00 |
| whytek | Gaza? | 21:01 |
| Arsanerit | LjL: https://xkcd.com/927/ | 21:24 |
| LjL | Hehe kind of yeah | 21:24 |
| IndoAnon | LjL: really, WHO is led by retards | 22:10 |
| IndoAnon | now everyone have to learn how to write Greek letter like American sorority girls | 22:12 |
| LjL | Uh, well, that could easily be avoided by writing down *names* of Greek letters (which most literate people know) without the letters themselves, but even if it entailed learning the Greek alphabet, I don't think that would be the biggest tragedy | 22:20 |
| IndoAnon | soon, CJK characters | 22:29 |
| IndoAnon | https://web.archive.org/web/20210531203609/https://meaww.com/amp/scientist-danielle-anderson-facebook-factchecker-covid-19-leak-theory-worked-in-wuhan-lab | 22:37 |
| Brainstorm | New from Gazzetta Ufficiale italiana: MINISTERO DELLA SALUTE - ORDINANZA 30 maggio 2021: Ulteriori misure urgenti in materia di contenimento e gestionedell'emergenza epidemiologica da COVID-19. (21A03430) → https://is.gd/ZaE3pL | 22:58 |
| LjL | IndoAnon, CJK characters *are* formally used by the WHO for things like disease naming. they promulgate them in English, French, Arabic, and Chinese, IIRC. | 23:12 |
| Brainstorm | New from Gazzetta Ufficiale italiana: LEGGE 28 maggio 2021, n.76: Conversione in legge, con modificazioni, del decreto-legge 1° aprile2021, n. 44, recante misure urgenti per il contenimento dell'epidemiada COVID-19, in materia di vaccinazioni anti SARS-CoV-2, di giustiziae di concorsi pubblici. (21G00086) → https://is.gd/DZI1jo | 23:19 |
| de-facto | αlpha variants are the new βeta blockers? :D | 23:28 |
| IndoAnon | LjL: Well, I mean assigning one CJK character for one particular strain | 23:39 |
| Brainstorm | New from NPR: The 'Time Has Come' For A Global Pandemic Treaty, WHO's Tedros Says: Pathogens can blossom from an outbreak into a pandemic because they "exploit our interconnectedness and expose our inequities and divisions," the World Health Organization's leader says. → https://is.gd/Y8sLsY | 23:40 |
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