| Brainstorm | Updates for Rwanda: +127 cases (now 27434), +4 deaths (now 364) since 23 hours ago — Monaco: +3 cases (now 2511) since 6 days ago | 00:38 |
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| Brainstorm | Updates for Cameroon: +975 cases (now 79904), +27 deaths (now 1302) since 6 days ago — Guatemala: +1581 cases (now 263836), +26 deaths (now 8331) since a day ago — Kuwait: +1581 cases (now 320257), +3 deaths (now 1801) since a day ago | 01:40 |
| lavadonut | tilikum, are we not all merely captive orcas? In this Seaworld pen called life? | 02:19 |
| tilikum | uh, i guess | 02:27 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for United Kingdom: +5786 cases (now 4.5 million), +7 deaths (now 127979) since 23 hours ago — China: +32 cases (now 97251) since 23 hours ago — France: +35 deaths (now 110147) since 21 hours ago — Netherlands: +693 cases (now 1.7 million) since 23 hours ago | 02:30 |
| LjL | lavadonut, err, what spawned that question? | 02:30 |
| lavadonut | tilikum's nick | 02:31 |
| LjL | oh okay | 02:41 |
| LjL | can orcas get covid | 02:41 |
| lavadonut | A new study from scientists at Halifax’s Dalhousie University predicts that certain species of whales, dolphins, seals and other endangered marine mammals could be highly susceptible to infection from COVID-19. | 02:44 |
| lavadonut | The scientists say there have been no documented cases of COVID-19 in marine mammals to date, but both dolphins and beluga whales have been infected with related coronaviruses in the past. | 02:44 |
| tilikum | I've heard that | 02:46 |
| tilikum | perish the thought | 02:46 |
| LjL | :( | 02:46 |
| LjL | i suspect in future years we'll be vaccinating a bunch of mammals | 02:47 |
| tilikum | doge | 02:47 |
| LjL | (not for animal love, just because we don't want them to spill back) | 02:47 |
| LjL | eh dogs are not very susceptible apparently. cats on the other hand. | 02:47 |
| LjL | actually vaccines for pets are already being studied, a version of Sputnik in particular, because Sputnik is all about the PR | 02:48 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Martinique: +50 cases (now 12110), +1 deaths (now 98) since a day ago | 03:07 |
| LjL | <CarlSagan> [NPR - Science] The Highly Contagious Delta Variant Is On The Rise In the U.S. https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2021/06/08/1004597294/the-highly-contagious-delta-variant-of-covid-is-on-the-rise-in-the-u-s 2021-06-08T21:07:24 | 03:53 |
| LjL | <CoronaBot> /r/coronavirus: Fauci says us must vaccinate more people before Delta variant becomes dominant (1022 votes) | 03:54 |
| LjL | <CoronaBot> https://www.cnbc.com/2021/06/08/fauci-says-us-must-vaccinate-more-people-before-delta-becomes-dominant-covid-variant-in-america.html | https://redd.it/nv8zh0 | 03:54 |
| LjL | but *they* are vaccinating only with mRNA. what difference will that make? | 03:54 |
| LjL | i said it before, but i'll say it again, with particular respect to the Indian variant: i think AstraZeneca will prove to have been a terrible mistake | 04:00 |
| LjL | Pfizer protects from it, but only after two doses, with low protection after just one. my expectation is that protection from AZ will be marginal. | 04:01 |
| LjL | and i don't know if this is true but if "The variant, also known as B.1.617.2, is spreading rapidly in the U.K., and has quickly become the dominant strain there, responsible for more than 60% of infections and causing surges in some parts of England." then we'll realize that soon i guess | 04:01 |
| LjL | we quickly need a study from the UK on the effect of this variant on vaccinated people | 04:01 |
| LjL | https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/991343/Variants_of_Concern_VOC_Technical_Briefing_14.pdf | 04:10 |
| LjL | https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/991135/3_June_2021_Risk_assessment_for_SARS-CoV-2_variant_DELTA.pdf | 04:11 |
| LjL | "There is a high level of uncertainty around the magnitude of the change in vaccine effectiveness after 2 doses of Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine." | 04:11 |
| lavadonut | who here is not vaccinated? | 04:19 |
| LjL | depends what you mean. i am not "fully vaccinated", and effectively at this time i am fully susceptible. but i've had a jab. | 04:23 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for United Kingdom: +4479 cases (now 4.5 million), +9 deaths (now 127982) since 20 hours ago — France: +38 deaths (now 110166) since 20 hours ago — Netherlands: +357 cases (now 1.7 million), +3 deaths (now 17821) since 20 hours ago | 04:34 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Mexico: +3449 cases (now 2.4 million), +262 deaths (now 229100) since 23 hours ago | 05:11 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Nicaragua: +181 cases (now 7662), +1 deaths (now 188) since 6 days ago — Brunei: +2 cases (now 246) since 6 days ago | 05:36 |
| LjL | bot isn't really sending news since the move to Libera and i don't really know why | 05:37 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Pandemic propels Auckland to top of EIU’s most liveable cities ranking → https://is.gd/I9UHHm | 05:39 |
| LjL | okay maybe it is now. restarts do wonder | 05:40 |
| LjL | <CoronaBot> /r/covid19: Molecular evidence of SARS-CoV-2 in New York before the first pandemic wave (85 votes) | https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-021-23688-7 | https://redd.it/nvcgny | 05:47 |
| Brainstorm | New from Reddit (test): CoronaVirus_2019_nCoV: Pharmacist who 'intentionally' destroyed 500 Covid vaccine doses gets three years in prison → https://is.gd/DkTA2A | 06:00 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Belgium: +904 cases (now 1.1 million), +10 deaths (now 25051) since a day ago | 06:01 |
| lavadonut | Yet, who among us would not have done the same in his position? | 06:16 |
| LjL | me? lots? | 06:24 |
| Brainstorm | New from EurekAlert!: Speech droplets drive transmission of SARS-CoV-2: A new review published in the Journal of Internal Medicine indicates that unmasked speech in confined spaces poses the greatest risk of spreading SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, to others. → https://is.gd/nD4euJ | 06:32 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express (Health): Health: Experiencing mood swings, anxiety post Covid? Expert suggests simple ways to feel better → https://is.gd/DVkaTN | 06:53 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Indian Bar Association Threatens to Sue WHO Chief Scientist for Spreading COVID-19 Misinformation → https://is.gd/TXjIYZ | 07:04 |
| Brainstorm | New from Il Sole 24 Ore: Vaccini: un italiano su quattro è contrario, solo il 50% è sicuro: La propensione più alta a vaccinarsi è tra i giovanissmi, ma poi cala nella fascia 25-44 anni. Il 41% è disposto a immunizzarsi ogni anno. Pesano timori e dubbi, manca un piano di comunicazione → https://is.gd/3jTbov | 07:25 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express: World: Pandemic propels Auckland to top of EIU’s most liveable cities ranking → https://is.gd/vTw5Od | 07:36 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Parana, Brazil: +5587 cases (now 1.1 million), +181 deaths (now 27349) since a day ago — England, United Kingdom: +5168 cases (now 4.0 million), +13 deaths (now 112453) since a day ago — Moscow, Russia: +3817 cases (now 1.2 million), +62 deaths (now 20590) since a day ago — Para, Brazil: +2073 cases (now 525675), +40 deaths (now 14764) since a day ago | 07:40 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Study shows nearly 50,000 live animals on sale in China's Wuhan before COVID-19 began → https://is.gd/m4UjZk | 08:08 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for India: +121270 cases (now 29.1 million), +2185 deaths (now 352798) since 23 hours ago — El Salvador: +842 cases (now 74983) since 21 hours ago | 08:30 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express: World: For Asian Americans wary of attacks, reopening is not an option → https://is.gd/KTcJDR | 09:00 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Daily Discussion Thread | June 09, 2021: Please refer to our Wiki for more information on COVID-19 and our sub. You can find answers to frequently asked questions in our FAQ , where there is valuable information such as our: → https://is.gd/XlRcRt | 09:12 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: G7 economies could shrink twice as much as they did during pandemic due to climate change: study → https://is.gd/tpwSde | 09:33 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Taiwan: +274 cases (now 11968), +25 deaths (now 333) since 23 hours ago | 10:09 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express: World: New Zealand’s successful fight against Covid-19 made Auckland the most liveable city of 2021 → https://is.gd/URpzI1 | 10:16 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Kyrgyzstan: +459 cases (now 108173), +5 deaths (now 1864) since a day ago | 10:34 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Russia: +10407 cases (now 5.2 million), +399 deaths (now 124895) since 23 hours ago | 10:59 |
| Brainstorm | New from Politico: Cities: Coronavirus pandemic made European cities less livable: Report → https://is.gd/p5OYqL | 11:21 |
| Brainstorm | New from BMJ: Anaesthetist training: UK “must double numbers” to combat NHS waiting lists: Anaesthetic training places must be doubled to enable the NHS to deal with the huge backlog of surgical procedures created by the covid pandemic, the Association of Anaesthetists has said.In open... → https://is.gd/vLzras | 11:54 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Austria: +366 cases (now 647688), +3 deaths (now 10650) since 23 hours ago | 12:01 |
| Brainstorm | New from Scientific American: Covid, Quickly: A Pop-Up Podcast: Every two weeks, Scientific American’s senior health editors Tanya Lewis and Josh Fischman catch you up on the essential developments in the pandemic: from vaccines to... -- Read more on ScientificAmerican.com → https://is.gd/bVogVO | 12:05 |
| Brainstorm | New from BBC Health: (news): Covid: Greater Manchester and Lancashire in testing and vaccine push → https://is.gd/KqivZ3 | 12:38 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Indonesia: +7725 cases (now 1.9 million), +170 deaths (now 52162) since a day ago | 12:38 |
| applegal | hey | 12:46 |
| applegal | guys | 12:46 |
| applegal | they found the origin of the deadly virus | 12:46 |
| applegal | https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-report-concluded-covid-19-may-have-leaked-from-wuhan-lab-11623106982 | 12:46 |
| dTal | good to know | 13:08 |
| Brainstorm | New from Scientific American: Why India's Second COVID Surge Is So Much Worse Than the First: Young man returns to his home after getting his COVID-19 shot following the Indian state of Uttar Pradesh’s government giving permission to vaccinate people older than 18. → https://is.gd/TDzool | 13:10 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Atlantic: Individualism Is Still Sabotaging the Pandemic Response: During a pandemic , no one’s health is fully in their own hands. No field should understand that more deeply than public health, a discipline distinct from medicine. Whereas doctors and nurses treat sick individuals in front of them, public-health practitioners work to [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/HwzBT7 | 13:21 |
| Brainstorm | New from Politico: Aid and development: UK acted unlawfully over COVID contract for firm linked to Dominic Cummings → https://is.gd/zkF9Lr | 13:33 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Slovakia: +147 cases (now 390693), +7 deaths (now 12430) since a day ago | 13:41 |
| darsie | app legal or apple gal? | 13:43 |
| undefined_bob | apple gal sounds more kind/fun | 13:43 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express (Health): Feelings: How to prep your relationship for post-pandemic life → https://is.gd/Vo4Kw8 | 14:05 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Iran: +10598 cases (now 3.0 million), +157 deaths (now 81519) since 23 hours ago — Vietnam: +402 cases (now 9505) since 23 hours ago — India: +2666 deaths (now 353528) since 21 hours ago | 14:30 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Denmark: +698 cases (now 288229) since 12 hours ago | 15:08 |
| Brainstorm | New from Scientific American: Health: A 'Universal' Coronavirus Vaccine To Prevent the Next Pandemic → https://is.gd/Hc4X6O | 15:12 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Zambia: +1767 cases (now 103763), +3 deaths (now 1324) since 23 hours ago — Romania: +140 cases (now 1.1 million), +228 deaths (now 31383) since a day ago — Switzerland: +6 deaths (now 10850) since a day ago | 15:32 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express (Health): Feelings: How ‘doomscrolling’ has helped social media users in the pandemic → https://is.gd/gnqxoK | 15:33 |
| yuta | de-facto, please show me site you showed again , that shows infections per each mutant. | 15:33 |
| de-facto | you mean https://covariants.org/ from Emma Hodcroft? | 15:36 |
| de-facto | or https://outbreak.info/ from Scripps Research | 15:37 |
| de-facto | maybe https://cov-lineages.org/ ? | 15:37 |
| de-facto | or https://nextstrain.org/ncov/global ? | 15:38 |
| yuta | covariants that is it :) de-facto | 15:39 |
| de-facto | btw there are also country specific sites | 15:44 |
| de-facto | .title https://imgur.com/a/NXToULu https://i.imgur.com/549rOJG.png src: https://www.rki.de/DE/Content/InfAZ/N/Neuartiges_Coronavirus/DESH/Bericht_VOC_2021-06-02.pdf?__blob=publicationFile | 15:44 |
| Brainstorm | de-facto: From imgur.com: COVID Germany: SARS-CoV-2-VoCs evolution - Album on Imgur | 15:44 |
| yuta | nice,I wanted to know percentage of each mutant in japan. | 15:44 |
| de-facto | .title https://covid19.sanger.ac.uk/lineages/raw?show=B.1.617.2%2CB.1.1.7&lineage=B.1.617.2&colorBy=p | 15:45 |
| Brainstorm | de-facto: From covid19.sanger.ac.uk: COVID-19 Genomic Surveillance â Wellcome Sanger Institute | 15:45 |
| de-facto | .title https://www.covid19genomics.dk/statistics | 15:45 |
| Brainstorm | de-facto: From www.covid19genomics.dk: Danish Covid-19 Genome Consortium | 15:45 |
| de-facto | so it seems B.1.617.2 is not exploding everywhere where it is | 15:46 |
| de-facto | yuta, yet be careful with such data, its always dependent on how and where samples were selected | 15:50 |
| de-facto | so its unknown how well researchers succeeded in avoiding bias (preference for clusters with unusual properties etc) | 15:50 |
| de-facto | i know UK, Germany and DK put extra effort into making their sequencing as close to representative as possible, but i dont know much about the sources for the data on the other countries | 15:52 |
| yuta | de-facto, thanks. I know that japan doesn't count much. | 15:58 |
| de-facto | i think they got very good science in Japan | 16:00 |
| de-facto | yet i dont know anything about how many of their positive tests get sequenced or how randomly those sequencing samples are chosen among positive test results | 16:00 |
| -RSSBot[LjLmatrix- Feed: Riunione del Cipess del 9 giugno 2021 ( https://www.governo.it/it/articolo/riunione-del-cipess-del-9-giugno-2021/17064 ) | 16:01 | |
| yuta | de-facto, don't rely japanese scientist lol | 16:07 |
| yuta | I don't :P | 16:07 |
| finely[m] | <applegal "they found the origin of the dea"> Peter: we still don't know where it came from. The genetic evidence is consistent with a natural origin. Its not possible to disprove a virus that evolved in bats escaped from the Wuhan lab where it was being studied. | 16:10 |
| de-facto | .title https://imgur.com/a/5ETO6K3 https://i.imgur.com/KKN3ECH.png "COVID Germany: Portion of sequences among detected SARS-CoV-2 infections" src: https://www.rki.de/DE/Content/InfAZ/N/Neuartiges_Coronavirus/DESH/Bericht_VOC_2021-06-02.pdf?__blob=publicationFile | 16:11 |
| Brainstorm | de-facto: From imgur.com: COVID Germany: Portion of sequences among detected SARS-CoV-2 infections - Album on Imgur | 16:11 |
| de-facto | hence around 1 in 10 detected cases end up as a sequence in the dataset for Germany | 16:12 |
| de-facto | .title https://imgur.com/a/kpJf0MW https://i.imgur.com/xiHR0Hz.png "COVID Germany: Maps for B.1.1.7, B.1.351, P.1 and B.1.617.2" src: https://www.rki.de/DE/Content/InfAZ/N/Neuartiges_Coronavirus/DESH/Bericht_VOC_2021-06-02.pdf?__blob=publicationFile | 16:18 |
| Brainstorm | de-facto: From imgur.com: COVID Germany: Maps for B.1.1.7, B.1.351, P.1 and B.1.617.2 - Album on Imgur | 16:18 |
| Brainstorm | New from BMJ: Covid-19: Tests must be more rigorously regulated to protect public, say statisticians: Statistical experts have called for new standards for diagnostic tests in response to regulatory gaps identified during the covid-19 pandemic.Current legislation does not require tests to be... → https://is.gd/eChaB7 | 16:28 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Bangladesh: +2537 cases (now 817819), +36 deaths (now 12949) since a day ago — Timor-Leste: +177 cases (now 7941), +1 deaths (now 18) since a day ago — Nepal: +3449 cases (now 598813), +81 deaths (now 8179) since a day ago | 16:35 |
| de-facto | .title https://www.who.int/data/stories/the-true-death-toll-of-covid-19-estimating-global-excess-mortality | 16:43 |
| Brainstorm | de-facto: From www.who.int: The true death toll of COVID-19: estimating global excess mortality | 16:43 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Mauritius: +38 cases (now 1496) since 2 days ago | 16:59 |
| Brainstorm | New from BMJ Open: Mental health disorders among healthcare workers during the COVID-19 pandemic: a cross-sectional survey from three major hospitals in Kenya: Background COVID-19 is an international global health emergency and has posed a great challenge to mental well-being and resilience. Little is known about the mental health impact of COVID-19 [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/00IMoB | 17:01 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Iraq: +4616 cases (now 1.2 million), +25 deaths (now 16614) since 23 hours ago — Saudi Arabia: +1274 cases (now 461242), +15 deaths (now 7503) since 23 hours ago — Canada: +12 deaths (now 25778) since 20 hours ago | 17:37 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express (Health): Destination of the week: France is back: Borders reopen to American tourists, others → https://is.gd/7qa5y4 | 17:45 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Kenya: +589 cases (now 173661), +9 deaths (now 3335) since 23 hours ago — Albania: +18 cases (now 132415) since a day ago | 18:39 |
| Brainstorm | New from Il Sole 24 Ore: Monoclonali dimenticati, curati solo in 6mila: «I medici di famiglia ci mandino i pazienti»: L’Italia ha speso 100 milioni finora per acquistare 150mila dosi di anticorpi monoclonali, forse l’unica cura contro il Covid efficace,a parte i vaccini, perché in grado di ridurre dal... → https://is.gd/cRhu7V | 18:40 |
| st2n | hi! | 18:56 |
| st2n | is covid racist? | 18:57 |
| LjL | meaning whether it infects more people of some given ethnicities? i don't think there are strong indications of that | 18:58 |
| st2n | you are racist | 18:59 |
| LjL | that's a nice start | 18:59 |
| Brainstorm | New from WebMD: Why a COVID Diagnosis Could Cost You More in 2021: New research suggests COVID-19 could be a much more expensive experience for folks who fall ill this year, thanks to the return of deductibles and copays. → https://is.gd/tavt5R | 19:02 |
| Brainstorm | New from WebMD: Trust in CDC, FDA Took a Beating During Pandemic: Recent CDC guidance on COVID-19 has been widely misinterpreted and caused confusion, and the FDA decisions during the pandemic have been critiqued . → https://is.gd/YxS7qS | 19:12 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Portugal: +890 cases (now 854522) since a day ago — Papua New Guinea: +182 cases (now 16580) since 23 hours ago | 19:41 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Spain: +4427 cases (now 3.7 million), +23 deaths (now 80332) since 22 hours ago — Mozambique: +74 cases (now 71239), +1 deaths (now 840) since 23 hours ago — Italy: +2198 cases (now 4.2 million), +77 deaths (now 126767) since 23 hours ago | 20:06 |
| Brainstorm | New from BBC Health: Covid hospital cases rise above 1,000 in UK: Scientists say they are still uncertain about the size of a third wave, but vaccination will be key. → https://is.gd/uLV1Ub | 20:06 |
| Brainstorm | New from ScienceMag: [Research Articles] Redefining IL11 as a regeneration-limiting hepatotoxin and therapeutic target in acetaminophen-induced liver injury: Acetaminophen ( N -acetyl- p -aminophenol; APAP) toxicity is a common cause of liver damage. In the mouse model of APAP-induced liver injury (AILI), interleukin 11 (IL11) is highly up-regulated [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/nthI0O | 20:17 |
| Brainstorm | New from CIDRAP: News Scan for Jun 09, 2021: COVID-19 group home risks Full Pfizer COVID vaccine protection New H5N6 avian flu case → https://is.gd/KHDvZx | 20:28 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Algeria: +387 cases (now 132034), +7 deaths (now 3544) since 23 hours ago | 20:31 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: US buying 500 million Pfizer COVID-19 vaccines to share with globe → https://is.gd/weSfPm | 20:38 |
| LjL | Brainstorm will be down for a little while, while i vacuum up my server that's been accumulating dirt for a year and overheating. toodles | 21:32 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: U.S. to buy 500 million Pfizer doses to share with the world → https://is.gd/a6s3pD | 21:33 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for France: +42 deaths (now 110189) since 19 hours ago | 21:33 |
| Brainstorm | New from CIDRAP: Small risk of bleeding disorder after AstraZeneca COVID vaccine: Mary Van Beusekom | News Writer | CIDRAP News Jun 09, 2021 The risk of severe COVID-19 or death is far greater than any posed by the vaccine, a study author says. → https://is.gd/hz6pkj | 22:51 |
| Brainstorm | New from BBC Health: Covid: Everyone can see hospitalisations going up, says PM: Boris Johnson says vaccine protection is key to unlocking, as number in hospital with Covid hits 1,000. → https://is.gd/uLV1Ub | 23:01 |
| Brainstorm | New from Politico: Biden’s message as he lands in Europe: America’s back: Biden arrives in the United Kingdom for an eight-day trip to Europe to tackle Covid, taxes and trade → https://is.gd/EmrFWc | 23:12 |
| LjL | They want to allow people to get the second vaccine dose while on holiday / out of region, I predict this will be a mess | 23:42 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: US has bought and will donate 500 million doses of Pfizer's vaccine worldwide → https://is.gd/JmyquD | 23:44 |
| de-facto | im going to take it at the exact same center | 23:44 |
| de-facto | im expecting me to send the electronic vaccination card once they established that system | 23:45 |
| de-facto | the written ones are... shall we just say sub optimal when there are PDF files circulating for printout and howto fillout even with faking batch number schemes | 23:46 |
| de-facto | so yeah i expect that to be a big mess aswell, the more heterogeneous such a system is the harder to ensure authenticity | 23:47 |
| de-facto | *im expecting them to send the electronic vaccination card | 23:48 |
| de-facto | i think they register the insurance card so they should have a record for that in their system and therefore base certs on that | 23:52 |
| de-facto | i guess a GP also would register the insurance card, for getting paid, so should be in the system with that aswell then | 23:54 |
| de-facto | did you have to register your card LjL ? | 23:54 |
| LjL | de-facto, i had my card scanned, yeah | 23:55 |
| LjL | but it's not an "insurance card" in italy, not sure if that changes anything | 23:55 |
| LjL | we don't use mandatory insurance, we have an NHS type system | 23:55 |
| LjL | which is, sadly, managed on a regional basis | 23:56 |
| de-facto | here we have to have a health insurance, and they provide those electronic cards (with chips), they have readers for that and can read out a dataset (insurance number, personal info and all that) to store that in the system and charge for service etc | 23:56 |
| de-facto | what i dont get is why would they not just provide everyone with a token, a printout, a qr code that got a link on it that everyone just could HTTP GET and it would state: valid vaccination on $date with $vaccine and $batch for $name | 23:59 |
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