| LjL | Krey[m], well a tornado is quite a specific thing, a storm isn't a tornado unless it has... a tornado | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| Krey[m] | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEbWs2pDwO4 | 00:01 |
| Krey[m] | This kind of tornado i meant | 00:01 |
| Krey[m] | not "ohh no heavy storm ooo tornado look" | 00:01 |
| LjL | yes that is a tornado | 00:01 |
| LjL | a heavy storm without that lovely rotating thingie ain't no tornado | 00:01 |
| LjL | also these move fast and whoever was filming instead of going to the basement was foolish | 00:02 |
| Krey[m] | and i dispute the rotating thingle in 2004 as Nova TV (local news) liked to clickbait that way in 2004 | 00:02 |
| Krey[m] | this thing was never here | 00:03 |
| LjL | it was measured as F3, that's hardly disputable | 00:05 |
| LjL | there are (not many, in europe, regrettably, but some) institutions monitoring/measuring these things, not just local tv stations | 00:05 |
| Krey[m] | no recordings of it or anything O.o | 00:06 |
| LjL | good, people were saner! | 00:06 |
| LjL | also smartphones weren't a thing yet | 00:06 |
| Krey[m] | it goes through breclav, czechia now apparently | 00:06 |
| LjL | also if you were in the US you'd get a timely warning on your phone telling you to get the fuck away from windows, but in Europe you just get people staring | 00:06 |
| Krey[m] | LjL: finee whatever~ | 00:06 |
| Krey[m] | LjL: This is not US and there is not ever an ocean to be in risk of tornados | 00:07 |
| LjL | "now"? | 00:07 |
| LjL | uhm | 00:07 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Israel to reinstate indoor mask mandate next week as COVID-19 cases keep rising → https://is.gd/XIkhMs | 00:07 |
| LjL | hurricanes come from oceans | 00:07 |
| Krey[m] | and i got warnings on phone from gov | 00:07 |
| LjL | tornadoes aren't necessarily an ocean thing | 00:07 |
| LjL | good for you, we don't! | 00:07 |
| Krey[m] | what's tornados made by then! | 00:07 |
| Krey[m] | aaaaa | 00:07 |
| LjL | in fact i remember some severe weather event that happened in some small town where the Civil Protection had "warned" the mayor but the mayor didn't know because no one in the city hall was monitoring the... telefax | 00:08 |
| LjL | air, mostly | 00:08 |
| LjL | with bits of buildings in it | 00:08 |
| Krey[m] | 💢 | 00:09 |
| Krey[m] | I expect panic bcs czechia is not used to dealing with tornados though | 00:09 |
| LjL | Outside Tornado Alley, and North America in general, violent tornadoes are extremely rare. This is apparently mostly due to the lesser number of tornadoes overall, as research shows that tornado intensity distributions are fairly similar worldwide. A few significant tornadoes occur annually in Europe, Asia, southern Africa, and southeastern South America.[68] | 00:09 |
| LjL | meaning: there are fewer tornadoes 'round here than in America, but when they occur, they aren't necessarily weaker than theirs | 00:10 |
| Krey[m] | o.o | 00:10 |
| LjL | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tornado#/media/File:Globdisttornado.jpg | 00:10 |
| LjL | Krey[m], and this is how they can know there is a tornado, and its intensity, even if no local tv station (or smartphone) is taking a video :P https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tornado#/media/File:05june-rapiddow-wide.gif | 00:11 |
| LjL | i think you'll agree with me it's hard to mistake for a normal storm | 00:12 |
| LjL | although weather radars in europe mostly suck :( | 00:12 |
| LjL | or at least they're networked together suckily | 00:12 |
| Krey[m] | o.o | 00:13 |
| Krey[m] | LjL: doesn't seem to suck here austria sent help basically immediately | 00:14 |
| LjL | what does that have to do with radars | 00:14 |
| Krey[m] | said that they saw it on radar | 00:14 |
| Krey[m] | and that it went from them? | 00:14 |
| Krey[m] | apparently CZ+AU are monitoring this and cooperating since 16:00 CEST | 00:15 |
| LjL | well i just know that in Italy radar coverage wasn't even countrywide until recently (not sure if it is now, i just haven't checked) | 00:15 |
| LjL | and i look at the Swiss radar to get my weather radar info | 00:16 |
| LjL | because the italian one sucks and there wasn't even a decent countrywide mosaic... well there still isn't, there's one but hardly decent | 00:16 |
| LjL | https://meteoradar.ch/de/ is decent, although admittedly they operate just 3 radars since they're small so that makes it easier to network them sensibly | 00:16 |
| LjL | oh look, how appropriate | 00:17 |
| LjL | i just got my daily MeteoAlarm report | 00:17 |
| LjL | tell me how useful this is compared to the realtime warnings you get in the US (or in Czechia apparently) | 00:18 |
| LjL | <Brainstorm> New from MeteoAlarm: Lombardia: Today From: 25.06.2021 11:00 CET Until: 25.06.2021 18:59 CET english: No Special Awareness Required BE AWARE, keep up to date with the latest weather forecast. Expect some minor disruption to outdoor activities italiano: Nessun Avviso STARE (RIMANERE) ATTENTI. Tenersi aggiornati con le previsioni del tempo più recenti. [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/g2Imw8 | 00:18 |
| LjL | i just love the translation, "no special awareness required BE AWARE" | 00:18 |
| LjL | so what was i saying before the whole network exploded... | 00:27 |
| LjL | oh nevermind it's exploding again! | 00:27 |
| LjL | test | 00:31 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Tunisia: +3951 cases (now 395362), +88 deaths (now 14406) since 23 hours ago | 00:31 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Lancet (Online): [Comment] Line of sight: Highlights 2021 photography competition open for submissions: The photographer Henri Cartier-Bresson said that “To take a photograph is to align the head, the eye and the heart”.1 This line of sight has been evident in many of the moving images that have documented the impacts of COVID-19 on [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/UjsRVE | 00:38 |
| Brainstorm | New from FDA Press Releases: Coronavirus (COVID-19) Update: FDA Authorizes Drug for Treatment of COVID-19: The FDA authorized a drug for the treatment for the treatment of COVID-19 in hospitalized adults and pediatric patients who are receiving systemic corticosteroids and require supplemental oxygen, non-invasive or invasive mechanical ventilation, or [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/HFf2Cv | 01:09 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Delta variant is spreading in California as COVID-19 battle enters an uncertain phase → https://is.gd/D6FM4f | 01:29 |
| LjL | note to self: https://video.ibm.com/channel/VWBXKBR8af4 should have, at some point, the CDC meeting about myocarditis with Pfizer and all that | 01:38 |
| LjL | spacecraft, what is going on with that notice? | 01:55 |
| LjL | betelgeuse, you seem to be doing the disconnect reconnect dance again | 01:58 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Colombia: +32997 cases (now 4.1 million), +689 deaths (now 102636) since 23 hours ago — Italy: +266 cases (now 4.3 million), +8 deaths (now 127362) since 2 hours ago | 02:10 |
| LjL | The Matrix-Libera bridge is being ridiculous ;( | 02:14 |
| LjL | We can see people joining and leaving on IRC but neither side can actually see what the other side is saying | 02:14 |
| Brainstorm | New from BBC Health: Covid: Arsenal stadium tours offered as part of vaccine clinic: Fans are being offered the "memorable experience" when they go to get their vaccine at the Emirates. → https://is.gd/944n8w | 02:31 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for France: +27 deaths (now 110953) since 23 hours ago — Netherlands: +505 cases (now 1.7 million) since 23 hours ago — United Kingdom: +20 deaths (now 128170) since 23 hours ago | 02:35 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Germany: +1619 cases (now 3.7 million), +272 deaths (now 91178) since 20 hours ago | 03:00 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Israel says the Delta variant is infecting vaccinated people, representing as many as 50% of new cases. But they're less severe. → https://is.gd/BIwY6T | 03:02 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: First COVID-19 case could have hit China in Oct 2019 - study → https://is.gd/LUfOay | 03:53 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Eswatini: +49 cases (now 18947), +1 deaths (now 678) since a day ago | 04:02 |
| LjL | i don't like that Israel thing at all :( | 04:04 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Zimbabwe: +826 cases (now 44306), +17 deaths (now 1709) since a day ago | 04:39 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: World's longest ever Covid case: A 72-year-old man who tested positive for coronavirus for 305 days straight → https://is.gd/1oOXJ5 | 04:56 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Tokyo already showing early signs of another COVID-19 spike → https://is.gd/wEmtfP | 05:06 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express: World: First Covid-19 case could have hit China in October 2019: Study → https://is.gd/BRdYey | 05:16 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Mexico: +5340 cases (now 2.5 million), +221 deaths (now 232068) since 23 hours ago — United Kingdom: +12542 cases (now 4.7 million), +16 deaths (now 128175) since 21 hours ago — Australia: +20 cases (now 30424) since 23 hours ago — France: +22 deaths (now 110964) since 21 hours ago | 05:29 |
| de-facto | .title http://epidemicforecasting.org/ | 05:32 |
| Brainstorm | de-facto: From epidemicforecasting.org: Mitigation Calculator | 05:32 |
| de-facto | hmm cool site hope they will update their data again | 05:35 |
| LjL | de-facto, going to bed, but look at the Israel reddit post (and linked articles, haven't figured out what the study is though, but also the mention of 1/3 deaths in the UK being in vaccinated people) | 05:37 |
| crazycat123 | Are you vaccined yet? | 05:55 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express (Health): Health: Superfoods you must include in your diet after Covid recovery to avoid complications → https://is.gd/eGNdTI | 06:39 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for St. Martin: +143 cases (now 2276) since 7 days ago — St. Kitts and Nevis: +29 cases (now 425) since a day ago — Belgium: +847 cases (now 1.1 million), +3 deaths (now 25152) since a day ago | 06:44 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for England, United Kingdom: +13068 cases (now 4.1 million), +16 deaths (now 112614) since 23 hours ago — Scotland, United Kingdom: +2999 cases (now 263710), +5 deaths (now 7706) since 23 hours ago — Missouri, United States: +1238 cases (now 620792), +1 deaths (now 9669) since 23 hours ago [... want %more?] | 07:33 |
| Brainstorm | New from BBC Health: Covid: High risk kidney patients in tapeworm drug trial: The trial will test whether a drug used to treat people with tapeworms can protect against Covid-19. → https://is.gd/mZ1lqm | 08:02 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for India: +51667 cases (now 30.1 million), +1324 deaths (now 392876) since 23 hours ago | 08:35 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Daily Discussion Thread | June 25, 2021: Please refer to our Wiki for more information on COVID-19 and our sub. You can find answers to frequently asked questions in our FAQ , where there is valuable information such as our: → https://is.gd/PD7q7Y | 09:04 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express: World: Bolsonaro says Brazil didn’t spend a cent on Bharat Biotech vaccine deal under probe → https://is.gd/rSZTSw | 09:25 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Uzbekistan: +476 cases (now 108184), +2 deaths (now 725) since a day ago | 09:38 |
| Timvde | LjL: 1/3rd of UK deaths being vaccinated people? Big yikes. | 09:39 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express (Health): Fitness: Three tests you can do at home to measure fitness level → https://is.gd/ha5peQ | 09:56 |
| Brainstorm | New from Emma Hodcroft: @firefoxx66: It was a thrill to be on @BBCNews 6pm & 10pm, as well as @BBCRadio4 last night, with @BBCFergusWalsh! 📺 #SARSCoV2 #COVID19 #DeltaVariant #Travel → https://is.gd/9L5WGu | 10:06 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Covid-19 Delta variant detected in 85 nations: WHO → https://is.gd/XeZWgL | 10:27 |
| Brainstorm | New from StatNews: After racing to help the world understand Covid-19, scientists grapple with how to pick up the research they put on hold: Scientists are taking stock of non-Covid-19 projects that were scuttled or delayed because of months-long lab closures, capacity limits, and all the time and resources devoted to studying the coronavirus. → https://is.gd/OtmPns | 10:37 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Germany: +1532 cases (now 3.7 million) since 17 hours ago | 10:40 |
| Brainstorm | New from StatNews: First Opinion: Opinion: The Covid-19 relief bill created 1,000 more residency slots for new doctors. Wealthy hospitals should be last in line to get them → https://is.gd/kGurZ8 | 10:48 |
| Brainstorm | New from Reddit (test): CoronaVirus_2019_nCoV: The UK’s Covid Vaccine Program and Delta Surge Means It’s Now a Test Case for the World: " the longer the young remain unvaccinated or partially vaccinated the virus is allowed to spread and potentially more variants can emerge" → https://is.gd/w6nRP5 | 11:20 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Russia: +20393 cases (now 5.4 million), +601 deaths (now 132064) since a day ago — Fiji: +215 cases (now 3063), +1 deaths (now 14) since 21 hours ago | 11:29 |
| Brainstorm | New from Politico: Angela Merkel to visit UK on July 2: Merkel and Prime Minister Boris Johnson are due to discuss coronavirus and 'depending the UK-Germany relationship.' → https://is.gd/Sna0ak | 12:02 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: First COVID-19 case could have emerged in China in Oct 2019 → https://is.gd/DOO3xI | 12:13 |
| Brainstorm | New from BBC Health: (news): Covid: How is Europe lifting lockdown restrictions? → https://is.gd/D6ohIf | 12:24 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Uganda team coach arriving in Tokyo had Delta coronavirus variant → https://is.gd/RQdfMX | 12:55 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express (Health): Health: What is Covid-19 nasal vaccination? → https://is.gd/5YknHY | 13:06 |
| operational | hey so i got pfizer for my first dose but if i go to the same place for my 2nd i'll be getting moderna. is this ok? good, bad? | 13:57 |
| Brainstorm | New from EMA: What's new: General: Data requirements for multi-strain dossiers for Inactivated vaccines against avian influenza (AI), blue tongue (BT) and foot-and-mouth disease (FMD) → https://is.gd/vxV3bW | 14:09 |
| pwr22 | LjL de-facto: Oh no! we're starting to see an uptick in deaths in the UK ☹️ | 14:13 |
| * pwr22 uploaded an image: (61KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/shortestpath.dev/OgwTqIHnGcAkiFpiOqajRMfZ/image.png > | 14:13 | |
| Brainstorm | New from EMA: What's new: Document: Draft guideline on data requirements for multi-strain dossiers for inactivated veterinary vaccines → https://is.gd/N30ECy | 14:20 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Lithuania’s Vaccine Donation Sparks a Shopping Spree in Taiwan – Taiwanese people thanked Lithuania for the donation of Covid-19 vaccine by buying Lithuanian chocolate and beer. Some proposed visiting the Baltic country after the pandemic. → https://is.gd/qSlyd4 | 14:31 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Germany: +1549 cases (now 3.7 million) since 21 hours ago — Switzerland: +2 deaths (now 10880) since 23 hours ago | 14:36 |
| Brainstorm | New from EMA: What's new: Document: Draft guideline on data requirements for vaccine antigen master files (VAMF) → https://is.gd/pbULIq | 14:41 |
| Timvde | pwr22: I also read somewhere that a significant amount of deaths (close to 30%) were fully vaccinated, do you know if that's true? | 14:56 |
| Brainstorm | New from EMA: News and press releases: Additional manufacturing site for COVID-19 Vaccine Janssen, CHMP, 25/06/2021: EMA’s committee for human medicines (CHMP) has approved an additional manufacturing site for the production of COVID-19 Vaccine Janssen, the COVID-19... → https://is.gd/JsW4GM | 15:03 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Bangladesh: +5869 cases (now 878804), +108 deaths (now 13976) since a day ago | 15:32 |
| de-facto | pwr22, hmm i think its too early to tell, especially with smoothing enabled there are edge effects to be expected there, just because smoothing cant take into account the data in the future (where the graph ends) | 15:42 |
| de-facto | but also without smoothing it looks like a tiny increase there, yet i never really trust the tail of such graphs, just because its the region with most updates (hence modifications) | 15:43 |
| de-facto | but yeah hospitalizations raise as do cases, hence also fatal outcomes would be expected to raise https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/ | 15:44 |
| Brainstorm | New from StatNews: Pharma: STAT+: Pharmalittle: Sanofi dengue vax endorsed by expert CDC panel; Pfizer recalls Chantix as it tests for possible carcinogens → https://is.gd/iJSoZd | 15:45 |
| de-facto | if incidence (rate of infections) would be the rpm a cars motor would drive, vaccinations would just change the gear (the ratio) between infections and severe progressions (hence also hospitalizations and fatal outcomes). | 15:47 |
| de-facto | hence of course if infections rise there also will be more deaths, just with a lower ratio (for vaccinated or young infected), but it is still coupled | 15:49 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express: World: UK Health Secretary apologizes for breaching Covid rules in affair with aide → https://is.gd/6r7KjH | 15:56 |
| Brainstorm | New from BMJ: Covid-19: Hunger spreads and food prices soar amid pandemic, warns UN food agency: The covid-19 pandemic has sent food prices soaring around the world, the United Nations World Food Programme (WFP) has said.The number of people assessed as facing the imminent possibility of... → https://is.gd/07Wdwx | 16:28 |
| Brainstorm | New from StatNews: Opinion: The PASTEUR Act can help win the war against superbugs: Look no further than the coronavirus pandemic to see an immediate and high-profile example of the evolutionary battle between microbes and humans and the antimicrobial resistance it breeds. → https://is.gd/d5Q5tp | 16:39 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Nepal: +1721 cases (now 631152), +27 deaths (now 8945) since a day ago — Germany: +1577 cases (now 3.7 million) since 23 hours ago | 16:40 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Myanmar: +859 cases (now 151573), +5 deaths (now 3280) since 22 hours ago — Guernsey: +5 cases (now 833) since 3 days ago | 16:59 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Mass coronavirus outbreak: hundreds test positive after student vacations in Mallorca → https://is.gd/StPxBa | 17:00 |
| Brainstorm | New from WebMD: For Some Vaccinated People, Masks Remain Comforting: The CDC said in May that people who are fully vaccinated can resume activities without wearing a mask or staying 6 feet apart, with a few exceptions. The announcement caused a shift in attitudes towards masks, with many fearful of taking them off. → https://is.gd/Ee0VkI | 17:11 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Portugal: +1604 cases (now 871483), +2 deaths (now 17081) since 22 hours ago | 17:36 |
| Brainstorm | New from LitCovid: (news): Poor Antibody Response after Two Doses of SARS-CoV-2 vaccine in Transplant Recipients. → https://is.gd/rQELrz | 17:42 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for United Kingdom: +10473 cases (now 4.7 million) since 15 hours ago | 18:01 |
| Brainstorm | New from Virology.ws: Trial By Error: Lowenstein in Guardian; Eliot Smith’s Post-NICE View; Tack’s Take on MetaBlind Study: By David Tuller, DrPH The Guardian has published a lot of nonsense about Long COVID and has provided a platform for people who argue that robust manly thoughts are the path to recovery. Of course, it also published George [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/rOl3Pz | 18:44 |
| Brainstorm | New from WebMD: Shortage of Mental Health Beds Keeps Kids Trapped Inside ERs: What's known as emergency room boarding of psychiatric patients has risen between 200% and 400% monthly in Massachusetts during the pandemic — and the problem is widespread. The CDC says emergency room visits after suicide attempts among teen girls were up 51% earlier this [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/P2ppso | 18:55 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Italy: +416 cases (now 4.3 million) since 18 hours ago | 19:03 |
| LjL | does anyone have the study(ies) that say AZ+Pfizer gives more immunity than both AZ+AZ and Pfizer+Pfizer handy? | 19:24 |
| Brainstorm | New from Gazzetta Ufficiale italiana: MINISTERO DELLA SALUTE - ORDINANZA 24 giugno 2021: Ulteriori misure urgenti in materia di contenimento e gestionedell'emergenza epidemiologica da COVID-19 in occasione del G20 edelle riunioni ministeriali della coalizione anti-Daesh. (21A03903) → https://is.gd/FdCn1j | 19:26 |
| Brainstorm | New from StatNews: Pharma: STAT+: As Covid-19 rages in India, Gilead faces pressure to lower price of drug to treat rare infection → https://is.gd/yUgMmQ | 19:37 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Ecuador: +2751 cases (now 452234), +56 deaths (now 21433) since 22 hours ago — Namibia: +2547 cases (now 81270), +26 deaths (now 1305) since 21 hours ago | 19:40 |
| LjL | <pwr22> LjL de-facto: Oh no! we're starting to see an uptick in deaths in the UK ☹️ <Timvde> pwr22: I also read somewhere that a significant amount of deaths (close to 30%) were fully vaccinated, do you know if that's true? | 19:42 |
| LjL | yes, i've seen it too, and yes, it's apparently true | 19:42 |
| LjL | but someone tells me that when you look at the age ranges affected and everything, it's still consistent with good vaccine efficacy in the UK | 19:42 |
| LjL | i read about the 1/3 deaths thing from an article mainly about Israel, where 50% of new infections (Delta) are among vaccinated people | 19:42 |
| Timvde | LjL: is it known which vaccine? Is one of them not good enough against the delta variant? | 19:43 |
| LjL | <pwr22> LjL de-facto: Oh no! we're starting to see an uptick in deaths in the UK ☹️ <Timvde> pwr22: I also read somewhere that a significant amount of deaths (close to 30%) were fully vaccinated, do you know if that's true? | 19:45 |
| LjL | yes, i've seen it too, and yes, it's apparently true | 19:45 |
| LjL | but someone tells me that when you look at the age ranges affected and everything, it's still consistent with good vaccine efficacy in the UK | 19:45 |
| LjL | i read about the 1/3 deaths thing from an article mainly about Israel, where 50% of new infections (Delta) are among vaccinated people | 19:46 |
| LjL | those sound like bad news to me, but i hope the person who tells me they aren't understands statistics more than i do :P | 19:46 |
| LjL | Timvde, not by me... the only vaccine-specific information i have from the UK is, iirc, 96% efficacy against hospitalization for Pfizer with the Delta variant, and 92% for AstraZeneca | 19:47 |
| LjL | which doesn't sound very impressive to me because it's not considered as *after* you got COVID, but as the a priori probability | 19:47 |
| LjL | anyway, in Israel they only used Pfizer so we can't know from there | 19:47 |
| LjL | i got the Israel + 1/3 UK stuff from here https://old.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/o7cvm0/israel_says_the_delta_variant_is_infecting/ | 19:47 |
| LjL | "In the UK, where the Delta variant makes up more than 90% of cases, 26 of 73 total deaths associated with the Delta variant were among people who had been fully vaccinated, The Telegraph reported this week." | 19:47 |
| Timvde | Wait no, it's definitely between those who are infected, right? | 19:47 |
| LjL | and as for Israel if you read https://news.yahoo.com/israel-says-delta-variant-infecting-110300111.html it has links to more related articles | 19:48 |
| LjL | i will find you the UK 92% AZ / 96% Pfizer thing too, hold on... | 19:48 |
| LjL | Timvde, this one is a bit old, but it does distinguish between the vaccines, but it's about efficacy against symptomatic disease (where AZ doesn't shine), not hospitalization https://www.gov.uk/government/news/vaccines-highly-effective-against-b-1-617-2-variant-after-2-doses | 19:48 |
| LjL | Timvde, this is the one i was looking for https://www.gov.uk/government/news/vaccines-highly-effective-against-hospitalisation-from-delta-variant | 19:49 |
| LjL | Timvde, that was my conundrum, and i talked to this guy (who won't join here because he's a special type) and although it took me a while to get what i meant across, the answer was ultimately "no" | 19:50 |
| LjL | Timvde, but anyway in the last link i gave you, there is the analysis linked, so i suppose you can parse the language and figure it out ;( | 19:50 |
| LjL | if you're better than me | 19:50 |
| LjL | Timvde, one thing he showed me was https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E4t-x7NXoAUMRH3.png and there it says the hospitalization odds ratios are "combined" with the ones against symptomatic disease | 19:50 |
| Timvde | LjL: maybe, but I'm in the bowling alley now, so I'm not going to do it now :P | 19:50 |
| LjL | Timvde, okay, but really let's try to crack this one later when we can, because i really do want to know | 19:51 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Mozambique: +534 cases (now 74186), +2 deaths (now 865) since 21 hours ago | 19:59 |
| Brainstorm | New from Reddit (test): nCoV: Nearly all Covid deaths in US are now among unvaccinated | 25JUN21 → https://is.gd/xduLJu | 20:17 |
| Brainstorm | New from Scientific American: Health: Deleted Coronavirus Genome Sequences Trigger Scientific Intrigue → https://is.gd/LemYB1 | 20:27 |
| -Bridgestorm- 🏠 Deprem! Earthquake! 5.6 M tremor, registered by EMSC,alomax, with 40 reports, 7 early, occurred 7 minutes ago (18:28:36 UTC), with a gibbous moon, Çan, Turkey (39.03, 40.26) ± 39 km, ↓2 km likely felt 220 km away (in Karakoçan, Tunceli…) by 1.0 million people (Twitter) | 20:36 | |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Morocco: +551 cases (now 528731), +3 deaths (now 9268) since 23 hours ago — Malawi: +169 cases (now 35388), +1 deaths (now 1179) since 16 hours ago — Spain: +3281 cases (now 3.8 million), +13 deaths (now 80779) since 23 hours ago | 20:36 |
| pwr22 | Timvde I don't have any more info than the graph but looks like LjL has shared some stuff | 21:01 |
| LjL | i won't confirm nor deny | 21:08 |
| Brainstorm | New from CIDRAP: News Scan for Jun 25, 2021: Estimating the first COVID-19 case ACIP on dengue, flu vaccines Backyard poultry Salmonella New UK monkeypox case Polio in 4 countries → https://is.gd/ZSeiqg | 21:18 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for South Africa: +18762 cases (now 1.9 million), +215 deaths (now 59621) since a day ago — Cuba: +2464 cases (now 177253), +10 deaths (now 1219) since a day ago — Jersey: +24 cases (now 3385) since 22 hours ago — Canada: +5 deaths (now 26175) since 21 hours ago | 21:32 |
| Brainstorm | New from CIDRAP: Nearly all US COVID-19 deaths now preventable: Stephanie Soucheray | News Reporter | CIDRAP News Jun 25, 2021 Only about 150 of the more than 18,000 COVID-19 deaths in May were in fully vaccinated people. → https://is.gd/GqbguM | 21:39 |
| Brainstorm | New from Virology.ws: Trial By Error: Lowenstein’s Guardian Opinion; Eliot Smith’s Post-NICE View; Tack’s Take on Blinding Study: By David Tuller, DrPH The Guardian has published a lot of nonsense about Long COVID and has provided a platform for people who argue that robust manly thoughts are the path to recovery. Of course, it also published [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/r22JwR | 21:49 |
| Krey[m] | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yd5tV-SoCeo | 21:52 |
| Krey[m] | yaay! Heart doctor doing a video on myocarditis in relation to the vaccine | 21:52 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Brazil continues to lose an entire generation of Indigenous elders and leaders to COVID-19, leading to a loss of culture and history → https://is.gd/7RwmiY | 21:59 |
| Krey[m] | Did CDC share any info on micro-thrombosis in relation to the heart inflammation after covid-19 vaccine? | 22:04 |
| * Krey[m] pokes LjL as he's lazy to look through his long github repo~ | 22:08 | |
| LjL | i have no idea | 22:15 |
| LjL | i've been lazy for a long time too, partly because hardly anybody ever looks at the repo so i'm both tired and fail to see the point | 22:16 |
| LjL | anyway pretty sure there is nothing in it about micro-thrombosis and myocarditis | 22:16 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Monaco: +8 cases (now 2570) since 18 hours ago | 22:41 |
| Brainstorm | New from CIDRAP: One COVID vaccine dose yields good protection in elderly, 2 studies find: Lianna Matt McLernon | News Writer | CIDRAP News Jun 25, 2021 Two UK studies estimate 65% to 80% protection for the AstraZeneca and Pfizer vaccines. → https://is.gd/ExGDjS | 22:51 |
| Brainstorm | New from StatNews: Perna set to retire from Warp Speed later this summer: EXCLUSIVE: Gus Perna, the four-star Army general responsible for coordinating the U.S. coronavirus vaccine response, is set to retire this summer, sources tell STAT. → https://is.gd/c5qKyx | 23:01 |
| Brainstorm | New from CIDRAP: COVID cuts US life expectancy, with minorities hit hardest: Lianna Matt McLernon | News Writer | CIDRAP News Jun 25, 2021 America had a racial disparity and longevity problem before COVID-19, 2 new studies say. → https://is.gd/JdROjd | 23:21 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Guatemala: +2279 cases (now 288987), +66 deaths (now 8960) since 19 hours ago | 23:30 |
| Brainstorm | New from WebMD: Lawmakers Seek to Address Medicare Vaccine ‘Sticker Shock’: Bills introduced in the House and Senate would remove a financial barrier to vaccination for people enrolled in Medicare Part D plans. MedPAC separately proposed a shift in Medicare vaccine coverage. → https://is.gd/Bloi57 | 23:52 |
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