| Brainstorm | New from Reddit (test): nCoV: Official cautions of terrorism amid COVID-19 pandemic | 16AUG21 → https://is.gd/a9R9Do | 00:00 |
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| nixonix | ab titers moderna vs pfizer 1.09 (1.06-1.11) | 00:01 |
| LjL | doesn't sound like a huge difference | 00:01 |
| nixonix | nope, but the whole CI is above 1 | 00:02 |
| LjL | yeah | 00:02 |
| nixonix | in that another paper pfizer was a bit stronger, but covariates etc | 00:02 |
| LjL | but does it explain 80% vs 40% or whatever it was? | 00:02 |
| nixonix | no, they decrease so fast | 00:03 |
| nixonix | if its real, it must be cell-mediated or something | 00:03 |
| nixonix | i think its not real, or isnt from most part. but lets see | 00:03 |
| LjL | nixonix, well the sad thing is if it's not real it's likely not because Pfizer is better, but because if you wait some months, Moderna is also bad :\ | 00:04 |
| nixonix | those who got pfizer might then benefit from getting moderna as third, it its real | 00:05 |
| nixonix | and earlier than those who got moderna | 00:05 |
| nixonix | btw poland (eu contry) sold 1M pfizer doses to australia | 00:05 |
| LjL | is that allowed by the agreement? | 00:05 |
| nixonix | i wonder how many eastern european countries have sold mrna vaccines outside of europe yet | 00:06 |
| LjL | nixonix, Finland is technically an eastern european country | 00:06 |
| LjL | you are in EET! | 00:06 |
| LjL | or EEST right now | 00:07 |
| nixonix | and also how many countries have bought them on side of eu deal, and not reporting them in the total doses administered (germany has bought, and announced it, but idk if they got them yet and are reporting them in total) | 00:07 |
| nixonix | do ppl consider greeks eastern european? | 00:07 |
| Raf[m] | no | 00:08 |
| nixonix | it used to be the iron curtain making the difference | 00:08 |
| LjL | i know a greek who barely considers himself european at all | 00:08 |
| nixonix | anyway, we are a third world country | 00:08 |
| nixonix | check wiki the meaning if not believing | 00:08 |
| LjL | i know why | 00:09 |
| Raf[m] | I consider eastern european being countries that were formerly USSR. i don't know if that's accurate but i wonder if many other people have the same general impression | 00:09 |
| LjL | it's because you are a swedish colony | 00:09 |
| LjL | (no i know it's because you weren't aligned with either power) | 00:09 |
| LjL | Raf[m], that is very much not accurate | 00:10 |
| nixonix | you typed that between parenthesis extremely quick... | 00:10 |
| LjL | Czechoslovakia, Poland, Romania, Bulgaria, Hungary... they are definitely considered eastern european - they were never part of the USSR | 00:10 |
| LjL | nixonix, i can type quickly sometimes when i don't make ten mistakes per word | 00:10 |
| LjL | %tr Es war einmal ein Land. Und ich hab’ dort gelebt. Wenn man mich fragt, wie es war – es war die schönste Zeit meines Lebens, denn ich war jung und verliebt. | 00:11 |
| Brainstorm | LjL, English to English: Es war einmal ein Land. Und ich hab’ dort gelebt. Wenn man mich fragt, wie es war – es war die schönste Zeit meines Lebens, denn ich war jung und verliebt. (Google) | 00:11 |
| LjL | :( | 00:11 |
| LjL | %tr <de Es war einmal ein Land. Und ich hab’ dort gelebt. Wenn man mich fragt, wie es war – es war die schönste Zeit meines Lebens, denn ich war jung und verliebt. | 00:11 |
| Brainstorm | LjL, German to English: Once upon a time there was a country. And I lived there. If you ask me how it was - it was the best time of my life because I was young and in love. (MyMemory, Google) | 00:11 |
| nixonix | check isoviha some day, some of the sources unfortunately mitigate the whole truth (about russia, not sweden) | 00:11 |
| nixonix | parenthesEs | 00:13 |
| nixonix | was it that sars2 for kids under 2yo or 4yo was more dangerous than for older pre puberty kids? | 00:17 |
| LjL | don't know | 00:17 |
| nixonix | .title https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/1427283383361499137 | 00:21 |
| Brainstorm | nixonix: From twitter.com: Eric Topol (@EricTopol): "The waning/vulnerability may have been made worse by the 3-week dosing schedule. In countries using 8-12 weeks (e.g. UK, Canada) vaccine effectiveness vs infections is ~80% [...] | 00:21 |
| nixonix | 8-16. although i think in canada they reduced the interval lately too, not sure if it was for all, or those asking, and in all regions or states or whatever they had there... | 00:22 |
| Brainstorm | New from Reddit (test): CoronaVirus_2019_nCoV: Delta Surge Drives Home Painful Truth: Covid Isn’t Going Away → https://is.gd/qzVo90 | 00:23 |
| LjL | provinces | 00:25 |
| nixonix | in those discussions they are claiming the evidence supporting az+mrna being better than 2*mrna is tainted due to different dose intervals | 00:31 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Canada: +1169 cases (now 1.5 million) since 21 hours ago — Djibouti: +1 cases (now 11683), +456 tests (now 200023) since 23 hours ago | 00:32 |
| nixonix | just when i thought maybe we should have taken those jnj's and used them as a first dose. then mrna on top of it. anyway, jnj has rarer TSS and it would have increased the total doses to use | 00:32 |
| nixonix | possible GBS signal, but very weak and unconfirmed i think | 00:33 |
| nixonix | .title https://twitter.com/segal_eran/status/1426835378292633602 | 00:41 |
| Brainstorm | nixonix, the URL could not be loaded | 00:41 |
| nixonix | is it _ or something causing problems? | 00:42 |
| nixonix | time to tinker the code again | 00:42 |
| LjL | .title https://twitter.com/segal_eran/status/1426835378292633602 | 00:48 |
| Brainstorm | LjL: From twitter.com: Eran Segal (@segal_eran): "Israel started administering a third dose to 60 y/o and above on July 30 By now, over half of this age group received the 3rd dose In the two weeks that passed, the relative [...] | 00:48 |
| LjL | it was just a fluke | 00:48 |
| LjL | these Nitter things don't always work | 00:48 |
| LjL | nixonix, i don't know about children BUT | 00:53 |
| LjL | <apropos> ● [microbio] Age-related susceptibility of ferrets to SARS-CoV-2 infection → http://biorxiv.org/cgi/content/short/2021.08.16.456510v1?rss=1 | 00:53 |
| LjL | i bet this is representative! | 00:53 |
| Brainstorm | New from Reddit (test): CoronaVirus_2019_nCoV: ‘We are on fire’: Five U.S. states set new records for Covid cases as hospitalizations rise → https://is.gd/QImBpr | 00:55 |
| nixonix | yeah, i was thinking about severe symptoms, but that paper was still interesting | 00:57 |
| LjL | you're a paper eater | 01:00 |
| nixonix | they were discussing on total prevalence in israel, compared to uk (most thinking uk has had more) | 01:00 |
| nixonix | ab survey: In a pilot of the serology test carried out in Haredi schools, which reopened on 9 August 2021, approximately 20% of children tested positive | 01:00 |
| nixonix | if it was sensitive enough to show abs from old infections (and not too many false positives), thats quite low. idk how much they had remote learning though, but haredis prob had more cases than regular folks | 01:02 |
| nixonix | and in uk they found around 90% had abs, from infection or vaccines, several weeks ago | 01:02 |
| nixonix | i thought if you thought i coudnt possibly read more than the abstract. in this case i didnt, but i saved the pdf | 01:03 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Burundi: +239 cases (now 9859) since 3 days ago | 01:09 |
| foo | Thought of the day: I got 12 mosquito bites and they seem to be about an inch by inch... I wonder if mosquitos can transmit covid-19. Doubtful, but the thought has crossed my mind. ;) | 01:10 |
| nixonix | .title https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(21)00662-0/fulltext - old, reinfections based on pcr+ in denmark vs symptomatic in other studies before | 01:24 |
| Elon_Satoshi | Even if mosquitoes themselves were immune to covid-19, what if they have covid infected blood in their stomach? | 01:24 |
| Brainstorm | nixonix: From www.thelancet.com: Risk of SARS-CoV-2 reinfection after natural infection - The Lancet | 01:24 |
| Brainstorm | New from Eric Topol: @EricTopol: What is the Delta & vaccination story?We don't have US data but it probably looks something like this1. The risk of infections & hospitalization have soared for unvaccinated2. While breakthroughs have gotten more common, the absolute and relative benefit for 💉💉 is INCREASING → https://is.gd/xjTeo9 | 01:26 |
| nixonix | "We demonstrate that even under extreme conditions, SARS-CoV-2 virus is unable to replicate in these mosquitoes and therefore cannot be transmitted to people even in the unlikely event that a mosquito fed upon a viremic host | 01:27 |
| nixonix | there are several studies, basically doesnt happen, or with mites | 01:27 |
| nixonix | .title https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/1426619387771949056 florida looking even worster | 01:32 |
| Brainstorm | nixonix: From twitter.com: Eric Topol (@EricTopol): "Each day the question is how can this possibly get worse. Worster. Worstest. And it does. New records set daily, cases >25,000, hospitalizations >16,000, 31.9% test [...] | 01:32 |
| LjL | Julius_, you are banned. you cannot pretend you autorejoined by mistake, because your ident is different. this is against Libera policy. | 01:33 |
| Julius_ | LjL, who cares | 01:34 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Bulgaria: +1301 cases (now 434535), +32 deaths (now 18376) since a day ago — Mauritius: +515 cases (now 6122), +1 deaths (now 22) since 3 days ago — Palestine: +620 cases (now 321031), +1 deaths (now 3625), +9798 tests (now 2.1 million) since 13 hours ago — French Guiana: +354 cases (now 32180), +2 deaths (now 200), +4583 tests (now 341772) since 3 days ago | 01:34 |
| LjL | actually no | 01:39 |
| TurboTech | Hi Gang | 01:39 |
| LjL | hi | 01:40 |
| TurboTech | had to reinstall ubuntu | 01:41 |
| nixonix | cross-protection from certain childhood vaccinations, like they thought might explain why pakistan wasnt hit bad, in 2020 (BCG prevalence if i recall). i havent read stuff on these lately, but theres a paper on MMR induced t-cell response | 01:41 |
| LjL | i've heard of the BCG thing before | 01:41 |
| LjL | kinda fell off my radar | 01:41 |
| LjL | %wik BCG | 01:41 |
| Brainstorm | LjL, specify one of the following: BCG matrix — BCG vaccine — Ballistocardiography — Beijing Capital Group — Big City Greens — Billy Gillispie — Blue compact galaxy — Bolt (firearms) — Boston Consulting Group — Brightest cluster galaxy — British Comedy Guide — Bromocresol green — Buffalo Creek and Gauley Railroad | 01:41 |
| nixonix | .title https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpubh.2020.587007/full - heres more on several vaccines, eg comparing italy who didnt use, was it mmr, to some that used | 01:41 |
| Brainstorm | nixonix: From www.frontiersin.org: Frontiers | Childhood Immunization and COVID-19: An Early Narrative Review | Public Health | 01:41 |
| LjL | %wik BCG vaccine | 01:41 |
| Brainstorm | LjL, from English Wikipedia: Bacillus Calmette–Guérin (BCG) vaccine is a vaccine primarily used against tuberculosis (TB). In countries where tuberculosis or leprosy is common, one dose is recommended in healthy babies as close to the time of birth as possible. In areas where tuberculosis is not common, only children at high risk are [... want %more?] → https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BCG_vaccine | 01:41 |
| TurboTech | Yes BCG for TB | 01:41 |
| LjL | i think that's not the one that was used in Italy | 01:41 |
| LjL | we had our own | 01:41 |
| nixonix | .title https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/1426586022129717251 - includes link the mentioned new paper | 01:42 |
| Brainstorm | nixonix: From twitter.com: Eric Topol (@EricTopol): "New @MedCellPress Prior Measles-Mumps-Rubella (MMR) or Tetanus-Diptheria-Pertussis (Tdap) vaccination induces a T-cell response that overlaps with #SARSCoV2 and appears to [...] | 01:42 |
| LjL | hmm, 20-30% protection | 01:43 |
| LjL | but BCG might offer more? | 01:43 |
| LjL | because 20-30% wouldn't be the kind of protection that'd make me expect Pakistan to feel "not very hit" | 01:44 |
| TurboTech | .title https://www.news-medical.net/news/20210222/High-fructose-diets-might-prevent-proper-functioning-of-peoples-immune-system.aspx | 01:45 |
| Brainstorm | TurboTech: From www.news-medical.net: High fructose diets might prevent proper functioning of peoples' immune system | 01:45 |
| TurboTech | From Feb. | 01:45 |
| LjL | i'm trying to steer away from sugar a bit | 01:45 |
| TurboTech | Kids here in the states are highly addicted to this crap | 01:46 |
| nixonix | then there was that another paper, where they thought less cross-reactive t-cells from other coronaviruses might be beneficial. yeah its different, reactivity isnt necessarily protective, but more similar viruses, idk | 01:46 |
| LjL | mainly because i'm scared i might get diabetes though | 01:46 |
| nixonix | i wish i had candy | 01:46 |
| LjL | well we aren't as big on high-fructose corn syrup (it's started getting used, though), but we definitely have things with a lot of sucrose, and a lot of carbs in general | 01:46 |
| TurboTech | It reprograms the Monocyte and the Endothelium | 01:46 |
| TurboTech | the problem is that High Fructose Corn Syrup and Table Sugar both are 50% fructose. | 01:47 |
| LjL | can i tell you... you don't have to change the way you type because i tell you, but i almost can't keep myself from telling you... capitalizing the Big Word of Medicine is a bit of a nasty and linguistically silly things Doctors or other people in Medical Fields do, not all of them, but a few of them, and it reads both wrong and pompous | 01:47 |
| TurboTech | Anyway, you all know were I stand. | 01:47 |
| TurboTech | Thats ok. | 01:48 |
| TurboTech | I will try to remember that. | 01:48 |
| LjL | what about dark chocolate with 70% or more cocoa, there are some stance that somehow the sugars and fat there are less harmful than the ones in other foods because of something or something else | 01:50 |
| TurboTech | Dark chocolate is healthy | 01:52 |
| nixonix | they usually have less sugar, i think the fat was ok, antioxidants that may or may not be beneficial - and most importantly, eaten more often by people with otherwise healthy habits | 01:52 |
| nixonix | or flavonoids? both? | 01:54 |
| TurboTech | Here is what I am doing. I am eating healthier fats on a daily basis and I am enjoying meat as well. I cut out the sugar as much as possible. The research I have been reading is pointed in that certain oils like Olive oil have the ability to coat the specific vldl particle responsible for activating the reactive oxygen species in teh endothelium. | 01:54 |
| LjL | TurboTech, but dark chocolate, even 70% or more, does still have substantial amounts of sugar (30% or less!). is there some mechanism by which the rest of the chocolate limits the bad effects of the sugar? | 01:55 |
| TurboTech | Oh, it has antioxidants. | 01:55 |
| nixonix | i often buy chocolate with nuts. they magically dispell the unhealthy features of sugar | 01:55 |
| LjL | well fortunately we use a lot of olive oil | 01:55 |
| TurboTech | for instance in studies Resveritrol found in wine has the ability to completely negate high fructose corn syrup. | 01:56 |
| LjL | nixonix, i just eat chocolate, with nuts :P | 01:56 |
| LjL | too bad i don't like most wine, i'm not italian enough evidently | 01:56 |
| LjL | despite being pretty darned italian, dammit | 01:56 |
| nixonix | ive done it too, you find better nuts than in chocolate. while hasselnuts are ok, german nuts (direct translation) are better, and cashew too | 01:57 |
| TurboTech | Almonds are high in monounsaturated fat. | 01:57 |
| TurboTech | Cashews are amongst the highest in mon Unsaturated fat | 01:58 |
| TurboTech | We have been eating a ton of them | 01:58 |
| nixonix | walnat. german | 01:58 |
| nixonix | nut | 01:58 |
| nixonix | and hazel i think... | 01:59 |
| LjL | i eat hazelnuts and almonds mostly | 01:59 |
| LjL | too bad both of them sometimes taste rancid and then bleh | 02:00 |
| LjL | sorry, walnuts | 02:00 |
| LjL | not so many hazelnuts | 02:00 |
| TurboTech | .title https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0960327119860188 | 02:00 |
| Brainstorm | TurboTech: From journals.sagepub.com: Melatonin protects the heart and endothelium against high fructose corn syrup consumption–induced cardiovascular toxicity via SIRT-1 signaling - M Savran, H Asci, O Ozmen, Y Erzurumlu, HB Savas, Y [...] | 02:00 |
| LjL | i can't have melatonin, except maybe in very low amounts, the time i tried it made for a terrible night and subsequent day | 02:00 |
| nixonix | there was a study i linked earlier, and thought this would interest you turbo: | 02:01 |
| nixonix | .title https://www.pnas.org/content/118/34/e2024358118 | 02:01 |
| Brainstorm | nixonix: From www.pnas.org: Redox imbalance links COVID-19 and myalgic encephalomyelitis/chronic fatigue syndrome | PNAS | 02:01 |
| TurboTech | You know I opened it and immediately searched NLRP3 | 02:02 |
| TurboTech | It is in there 7 times | 02:02 |
| TurboTech | The cytokine storm seen in severe cases of COVID-19 has been well characterized (118, 119). The nucleotide-binding oligomerization domain-like receptor containing pyrin domain 3 (NLRP3) inflammasome plays a key role in the effects of the cytokine storm; NLRP3, in turn, is activated by oxidative stress (118). Increased levels of the proinflammatory markers, C-reactive protein and IL-6, were associated with the disease (120). | 02:02 |
| TurboTech | They will never study it, but the Monocyte is what we need to be looking at and how it gets reprogrammed | 02:03 |
| TurboTech | They are trying to give il6 blockers and it is failing. | 02:04 |
| TurboTech | they need more of the precursor interlieken 1 beta. | 02:05 |
| TurboTech | If they can prevent the activation of NLRP3 inflammasome which then signals caspace1 to produce Interlueken 1 beta we have a win. | 02:06 |
| nixonix | .title https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.12.456173v1 | 02:07 |
| Brainstorm | nixonix: From www.biorxiv.org: Delta spike P681R mutation enhances SARS-CoV-2 fitness over Alpha variant | bioRxiv | 02:07 |
| Brainstorm | New from Eric Topol: @EricTopol: If you would have told me we'd have 85,000 hospitalizations in a 4th wave, when there are free, very safe, highly effective vaccines (90% protective vs hospitalizations w/ Delta), and enough for everyone over age 12, I wouldn't believe you.But here we are. And we're not done yet → https://is.gd/OFbwic | 02:08 |
| nixonix | yeah, kent variant has several cellular immune evasion mechanisms, like suppressing ifn-I. maybe it could gain 681R, which was cell fusion wasnt it | 02:09 |
| nixonix | Although the P681R mutation decreases viral infectivity, this mutation confers the neutralizing antibody resistance. Notably, we demonstrate that the P681R mutation facilitates the furin-mediated spike cleavage and enhances and accelerates cell-cell fusion | 02:11 |
| TurboTech | Thank you for that study regarding Redox. | 02:17 |
| nixonix | but this new paper doesnt say anything about syncytia. the old paper mentions both (cell fusion and the increased cleavage) | 02:17 |
| TurboTech | According to what I read, vitamin E is the most potent Antioxidant we know of. | 02:17 |
| nixonix | there was an antioxidant study in finland, which i knew some people involved, that found no benefits of vitamin E or betacarotene in preventing lung cancer. smokers using betacarotene even had a bit more lung cancer than controls | 02:20 |
| nixonix | its complex, which antioxidants are beneficial and for what. while theyve had great results on mouse studies, it seems its hard to find anything to recommend for humans | 02:22 |
| nixonix | some of them increase tumor growth | 02:22 |
| nixonix | but maybe some of them could be tested for sars2 symptoms, reducing antioxidative stress and mitochondrial damage, possibly protecting telomeres | 02:22 |
| TurboTech | I believe I read they can cause Lymphocytic cancers to get worse, but there was another facet in the study they could not rule out as being the cause of the proliferation. | 02:27 |
| TurboTech | We have to tamp down the ROS. | 02:28 |
| jess | ^ this guy? | 02:28 |
| LjL | yes | 02:28 |
| jess | cool | 02:28 |
| TurboTech | I am slow | 02:28 |
| jess | see? meaner face | 02:29 |
| LjL | heh | 02:29 |
| LjL | jess, just stay here and show your mean face to these people, meanwhile you can enjoy uplifting stories of how our world is getting better and we're totally not all going to die, etc | 02:29 |
| TurboTech | I might have sars cov-2 | 02:30 |
| LjL | TurboTech, since when? | 02:31 |
| TurboTech | about 3 hours ago. | 02:31 |
| LjL | what's happening? | 02:31 |
| TurboTech | I came down with the worst case of gastroenteritis. Will know more tomorrow. | 02:31 |
| TurboTech | I will go get tested. I am calling out tonight. | 02:31 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Fr. Polynesia: +2211 cases (now 30541), +23 deaths (now 211) since 3 days ago — Ivory Coast: +221 cases (now 52423), +4 deaths (now 363) since 2 days ago — France: +6691 cases (now 6.5 million), +32 deaths (now 112755) since 21 hours ago — Netherlands: +1739 cases (now 1.9 million), +5 deaths (now 18067) since 21 hours ago | 02:36 |
| purplesail[m] | %cases Kabul | 02:44 |
| Brainstorm | purplesail[m]: Sorry, Kabul not found. Either there aren't cases, or it's under a different name. | 02:44 |
| purplesail[m] | %cases Afghanistan | 02:45 |
| Brainstorm | purplesail[m]: Afghanistan has had 152243 confirmed cases (0.5% of all people) and 7031 deaths (4.6% of cases) as of 14 hours ago. 745689 tests were done (20.4% positive). 939835 were vaccinated (2.9%). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=Afghanistan | 02:45 |
| Brainstorm | purplesail[m]: If you know of an official or otherwise good site for data about Afghanistan, with a reasonably short URL, please %tell LjL about it. | 02:45 |
| LjL | i'm afraid it's not that finegrained | 02:45 |
| LjL | %cases Afghanistan | 02:45 |
| Brainstorm | LjL: Afghanistan has had 152243 confirmed cases (0.5% of all people) and 7031 deaths (4.6% of cases) as of 14 hours ago. 745689 tests were done (20.4% positive). 939835 were vaccinated (2.9%). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=Afghanistan | 02:45 |
| LjL | i'm lagging a lot | 02:46 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Somalia: +9 cases (now 16328), +1 deaths (now 884), +1182 tests (now 183398) since a day ago | 03:01 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Duterte hits COA on DOH audit report, defends health agency on ‘deficiencies’ over COVID-19 funds → https://is.gd/LSzwFm | 03:11 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Botswana: +5622 cases (now 142380), +70 deaths (now 2043) since 3 days ago — Costa Rica: +3854 cases (now 432149), +44 deaths (now 5255) since 3 days ago — Egypt: +107 cases (now 285465), +6 deaths (now 16625) since a day ago — Channel Islands: +102 cases (now 10005), +10062 tests (now 770805) since a day ago | 03:39 |
| Brainstorm | New from Eric Topol: @EricTopol: Learning from Israel's Delta wavehttps://www.sciencemag.org/news/2021/08/grim-warning-israel-vaccination-blunts-does-not-defeat-delta @ScienceMagazine by @meredithwadman Getting max % fully vaccinated top priorityMore mitigationBoosters ->prompt surge of antibodies, side effects in 4500 recipients were no worse, [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/SfoZoo | 03:53 |
| LjL | https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2021/08/grim-warning-israel-vaccination-blunts-does-not-defeat-delta http://offloop.net/covid19/?default=Israel&cumulative=no&smooth=yes | 03:54 |
| Brainstorm | New from Eric Topol: @mmcornelius: RT by @EricTopol: Thank you to everyone who got vaccinated. And masked up since the beginning and are doing so again. You did your part. You tried. You saved lives. You prevented infections. And thank you to health care providers and scientists. You did everything you could. → https://is.gd/U8Pwnf | 04:04 |
| -RSSBot[LjLmatrix- Zotero / COVID links Group / Top-Level Items: A grim warning from Israel: Vaccination blunts, but does not defeat Delta ( https://www.zotero.org/groups/covid_links/items/AXHSZJT9 ) | 04:24 | |
| Brainstorm | New from Eric Topol: @EricTopol: R to @EricTopol: That was rapid🦠sequencing (<12 hr) in hospitals to diagnose B.1.621 in the midst of Delta.Here's another very impressive application: maintaining zero covid in New Zealandhttps://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/27/9/21-1097_article @Jemma_Geoghegan @AucklandUni and colleagues → https://is.gd/mmK46M | 04:25 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Belize: +163 cases (now 15010) since 3 days ago — United Kingdom: +21146 cases (now 6.3 million), +20 deaths (now 131131) since 21 hours ago — Congo: +42 cases (now 13398) since 3 days ago — Gabon: +43 cases (now 25607) since 3 days ago | 04:41 |
| Brainstorm | New from Eric Topol: @EricTopol: Boosters to roll out to all Americans beginning next month, indexed by time from vaccination and level of risk, breaking @washingtonpost https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/08/16/booster-shot-coronavirus/ → https://is.gd/Ct75wt | 04:46 |
| Brainstorm | New from Eric Topol: @EricTopol: R to @EricTopol: This will roll out in the same sequence as the initial campaign, healthcare workers and by age groups. But it requires @US_FDA review of data for @Pfizer and @moderna_tx (i.e. may encounter delay for initiation) → https://is.gd/QkIxne | 04:57 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Sources: US to recommend COVID vaccine boosters at 8 months → https://is.gd/jZb9sF | 05:29 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Belgium: +5010 cases (now 1.2 million), +12 deaths (now 25299), +151377 tests (now 18.1 million) since 2 days ago | 06:08 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express (Health): Health: Can Covid spread through tears? Here’s what you need to know → https://is.gd/9VXPKT | 06:43 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express: World: COVID-19 vaccines produced in Africa are being exported to Europe → https://is.gd/xeilYS | 06:53 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Georgia, United States: +19399 cases (now 1.3 million), +36 deaths (now 22014) since 2 days ago — North Carolina, United States: +14998 cases (now 1.1 million), +54 deaths (now 13880) since 2 days ago — Louisiana, United States: +13370 cases (now 628146), +65 deaths (now 11584) since 2 days ago [... want %more?] | 07:35 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for India: +25166 cases (now 32.3 million), +234 deaths (now 431287) since 21 hours ago — Sint Maarten: +42 cases (now 3227), +1 deaths (now 41) since a day ago | 08:37 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Covid-19 Live: Entire NZ moves to alert level 4 from midnight after positive man travels to Coromandel → https://is.gd/dOqOi6 | 08:38 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: New Zealand to go to Level 4 lockdown after a single positive covid case appears in the community. → https://is.gd/GNhhhk | 08:48 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for US Virgin Is: +53 cases (now 5295) since 3 days ago | 09:02 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Daily Discussion Thread | August 17, 2021: Please refer to our Wiki for more information on COVID-19 and our sub. You can find answers to frequently asked questions in our FAQ , where there is valuable information such as our: → https://is.gd/ixoDEf | 09:10 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for El Salvador: +10 deaths (now 2804) since a day ago — Barbados: +12 cases (now 4560), +1091 tests (now 240306) since 15 hours ago | 09:39 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Czechia: +221 cases (now 1.7 million) since a day ago — Israel: +7803 cases (now 951226), +21 deaths (now 6694), +141972 tests (now 17.8 million) since 21 hours ago — Taiwan: +18 cases (now 15880), +52943 tests (now 4.5 million) since 18 hours ago — Armenia: +357 cases (now 235171), +6584 tests (now 1.4 million) since 23 hours ago | 10:04 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express: World: Deaths in custody of two brothers fuel anger over COVID enforcement in Kenya → https://is.gd/voOj9D | 10:13 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: India witnesses highest-ever single-day vaccination of 8.81 million doses → https://is.gd/ICWrlf | 10:34 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Mizoram, India: +639 cases (now 49350), +2 deaths (now 184) since 23 hours ago — Jharkhand, India: +35 cases (now 347620) since 23 hours ago — St. Kitts and Nevis: +26 cases (now 681) since a day ago — Dadra and Nagar Haveli and Daman and Diu, India: +2 cases (now 10657) since 3 days ago | 10:35 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express: World: New Zealand’s Jacinda Ardern locks down nation over single Covid-19 case → https://is.gd/ol6KLJ | 10:45 |
| Brainstorm | New from StatNews: Opinion: A ‘great listening’ to patients could be a powerful legacy of the pandemic: By creating better partnerships with patients and advocates, drug companies and regulators will help honor the pandemic's victims and heroes. → https://is.gd/0gGR09 | 10:55 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Estonia: +359 cases (now 137514) since 23 hours ago — Afghanistan: +120 cases (now 152363), +12 deaths (now 7043), +1104 tests (now 746793) since 22 hours ago | 11:00 |
| Brainstorm | New from EMA: Human medicine assessment reports: (news): Human medicines European public assessment report (EPAR): Ervebo, Ebola Zaire Vaccine (rVSV∆G-ZEBOV-GP, live), Hemorrhagic Fever, Ebola, Date of authorisation: 11/11/2019, Revision: 5, Status: Authorised → https://is.gd/n4AHox | 11:06 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Georgia: +6208 cases (now 490462), +47 deaths (now 6483) since a day ago — Russia: +20958 cases (now 6.6 million), +805 deaths (now 172110), +300000 tests (now 172.8 million) since 23 hours ago — Liechtenstein: +14 cases (now 3175) since 23 hours ago — Laos: +207 cases (now 10648), +2146 tests (now 346895) since 23 hours ago | 11:37 |
| Brainstorm | New from BMJ: Matt Morgan: Caring for unvaccinated patients: As some intensive care units fill up once again, the patients with covid-19 feel almost familiar. Not all, but many, of them are overweight; similarly, many have diabetes or high blood pressure. The... → https://is.gd/2Y5bTC | 11:59 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Poland: +215 cases (now 2.9 million), +7 deaths (now 75306), +48678 tests (now 19.3 million) since a day ago | 12:02 |
| Brainstorm | New from StatNews: Health: U.S. expected to recommend Covid-19 vaccine booster shots for all → https://is.gd/0vAhWQ | 12:20 |
| pwr22 | Yay Brainstorm is back | 12:21 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Indonesia: +20741 cases (now 3.9 million), +1180 deaths (now 120013), +763810 vaccines (now 54.4 million) since 23 hours ago — Slovenia: +320 cases (now 261804), +2638 vaccines (now 956845) since a day ago — Latvia: +154 cases (now 140325), +2 deaths (now 2565), +2799 vaccines (now 814277), +10234 tests (now 3.3 million) since 23 hours ago [... want %more?] | 12:39 |
| Brainstorm | New from New Scientist: Covid-19: Lockdown not enough to stop Australia’s delta variant crisis: After being relatively untouched by the pandemic, Sydney, Australia, is now in the midst of its worst covid-19 outbreak, which is being driven by the delta variant → https://is.gd/kijNvM | 12:52 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for UAE: +1115 cases (now 704000), +3 deaths (now 2006), +247213 tests (now 70.3 million) since 23 hours ago — Germany: +3741 cases (now 3.8 million) since 23 hours ago | 13:10 |
| pwr22 | LjL: I've let Half-Shot know about the duplicate user when op'ing issue. I'll chuck it up on github when I get free moment today | 13:13 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Romania: +544 cases (now 1.1 million), +6 deaths (now 34359), +39188 tests (now 11.0 million) since a day ago — Malta: +54 cases (now 35434), +2 deaths (now 433), +3112 tests (now 1.1 million) since a day ago | 13:35 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Iran: +50228 cases (now 4.5 million), +625 deaths (now 99108) since a day ago | 14:00 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID19 Vaccine Tracker: Andy Becker: Baiya Phytopharm Co Ltd: Baiya SARS-CoV-2 Vax 1 Vaccine → https://is.gd/bs21km | 14:28 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Iceland: +104 cases (now 9682) since a day ago — France: +6205 cases (now 6.5 million), +75 deaths (now 112809) since 20 hours ago | 14:37 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID19 Vaccine Tracker: Andy Becker: Bagheiat-allah University of Medical Sciences: COVID-19 Recombinant RBD Protein Vaccine → https://is.gd/7u1GtD | 14:38 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Sweden: +2811 cases (now 1.1 million), +88253 tests (now 11.5 million) since 3 days ago — Brunei: +65 cases (now 852), +3310 tests (now 179420) since 23 hours ago — Nepal: +2456 cases (now 737294), +27 deaths (now 10354), +11565 tests (now 3.8 million) since a day ago — Gibraltar: +15 cases (now 5235), +1308 tests (now 326025) since 23 hours ago | 15:02 |
| Brainstorm | New from StatNews: Pharma: STAT+: Pharmalittle: Roche reports Actemra shortages due to Delta variant; J&J exports Covid-19 shots made in Africa to Europe → https://is.gd/yeQwZc | 15:31 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Fiji: +590 cases (now 41177), +11 deaths (now 405), +2892 tests (now 352801) since a day ago — Qatar: +269 cases (now 229697), +5575 tests (now 2.4 million) since a day ago — Dem. Rep. Congo: +155 cases (now 53501) since 21 hours ago — Switzerland: +3152 cases (now 744106) since a day ago | 15:40 |
| Brainstorm | New from In The Pipeline: Blog Switchover In Progress: So this will be the last post here until sometime next week, as the entire Science site does a behind-the-scenes changeover to a new publishing platform. Redirects from all old links to the previous posts should be in place on the re-emergence, along with a new look to the blog, a new commenting [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/qjBATi | 16:04 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Serbia: +1484 cases (now 734816), +3 deaths (now 7177), +13695 tests (now 4.8 million) since a day ago — Iraq: +8778 cases (now 1.8 million), +75 deaths (now 19815), +42223 tests (now 13.8 million) since a day ago — Belarus: +597 cases (now 462794), +12 deaths (now 3625), +6166 tests (now 7.6 million) since a day ago | 16:04 |
| Brainstorm | New from Shane Crotty: @profshanecrotty: What would you do?A nice article on behavior of scientists and doctors in the time of Delta variant.https://www.statnews.com/2021/08/17/whats-safe-to-do-during-summers-covid-surge-stat-asked-public-health-experts-about-their-own-plans/ → https://is.gd/HqTgDt | 16:15 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Bangladesh: +7535 cases (now 1.4 million), +198 deaths (now 24547) since 22 hours ago — Portugal: +2118 cases (now 1.0 million), +11 deaths (now 17584) since 23 hours ago | 16:29 |
| Brainstorm | New from Eric Topol: @EricTopol: Just published @ScienceMagazine The case for the animal origin of #SARSCoV2 https://science.sciencemag.org/content/early/2021/08/16/science.abh0117 w/ @ScienceVisuals → https://is.gd/BkRIzJ | 16:37 |
| Brainstorm | New from Shane Crotty: @profshanecrotty: T cells drive good antibody responses to RNA vaccines. Study in the important context of immunocompromised patients with weak response to two doses: Presence of spike-specific CD4+ T cells after 2-doses ➡ antibodies after a booster shot.https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.07.02.21259913v1 → https://is.gd/j1O7FE | 16:48 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Zambia: +358 cases (now 202787), +12 deaths (now 3550) since a day ago | 17:07 |
| Brainstorm | New from Eric Topol: @EricTopol: Current top 5 cases/capita in the world for country/state population > 1M1. Florida 138/100,0002. Georgia (country) 121/100,0003. Louisiana 116/100,0004. Mississippi 115/100,0005. Botswana [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/QVhJL8 | 17:09 |
| -RSSBot[LjLmatrix- Latest publications from LitCovid about {'text': None, 'filters': {}}: The unusual history of stroke due to coagulopathy caused by SARS-CoV-2 infection in a 14-year-old boy with two heart tumors. ( https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/research/coronavirus/publication/34392513 ) | 17:12 | |
| -RSSBot[LjLmatrix- Latest publications from LitCovid about {'text': None, 'filters': {}}: Mucosal immunity to SARS-CoV-2: a clinically relevant key to deciphering natural and vaccine-induced defences. ( https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/research/coronavirus/publication/34391929 ) | 17:12 | |
| -RSSBot[LjLmatrix- Latest publications from LitCovid about {'text': None, 'filters': {}}: Precautions after vaccinating immunosuppressed patients with mRNA-based vaccines against SARS-CoV-2 - does one size fit all? ( https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/research/coronavirus/publication/34391930 ) | 17:12 | |
| -RSSBot[LjLmatrix- Latest publications from LitCovid about {'text': None, 'filters': {}}: Immunosenescence and inflammaging in the aging process: age-related diseases or longevity? ( https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/research/coronavirus/publication/34391943 ) | 17:12 | |
| -RSSBot[LjLmatrix- Latest publications from LitCovid about {'text': None, 'filters': {}}: Conversations With the Editors: The Emergence of Variants Amid Population-Wide SARS-CoV-2 Vaccination Efforts: How Much Should We Worry? ( https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/research/coronavirus/publication/34391590 ) | 17:12 | |
| -RSSBot[LjLmatrix- Latest publications from LitCovid about {'text': None, 'filters': {}}: Time-dependent decay of detectable antibodies against SARS-CoV-2: A comparison of ELISA with two batches of a lateral-flow test. ( https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/research/coronavirus/publication/34391693 ) | 17:12 | |
| -RSSBot[LjLmatrix- Latest publications from LitCovid about {'text': None, 'filters': {}}: Decreased Antibody Responses to Ad26.COV2.S Relative to SARS-CoV-2 mRNA Vaccines in Patients with Inflammatory Bowel Disease. ( https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/research/coronavirus/publication/34391771 ) | 17:12 | |
| -RSSBot[LjLmatrix- Latest publications from LitCovid about {'text': None, 'filters': {}}: Acute mesenteric arterial thrombosis in severe SARS-Co-2 patient: A case report and literature review. ( https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/research/coronavirus/publication/34392017 ) | 17:12 | |
| -RSSBot[LjLmatrix- Latest publications from LitCovid about {'text': None, 'filters': {}}: Simulating approaches to emergency department pandemic physician staffing during COVID-19. ( https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/research/coronavirus/publication/34392521 ) | 17:12 | |
| -RSSBot[LjLmatrix- Latest publications from LitCovid about {'text': None, 'filters': {}}: Incessant threat of COVID-19 variants: Highlighting need for a mix of FDA-approved artificial intelligence tools and community pharmacy services. ( https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/research/coronavirus/publication/34391673 ) | 17:12 | |
| -RSSBot[LjLmatrix- Latest publications from LitCovid about {'text': None, 'filters': {}}: Management of COVID-19-related challenges faced by EMS personnel: a qualitative study. ( https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/research/coronavirus/publication/34391404 ) | 17:12 | |
| -RSSBot[LjLmatrix- Latest publications from LitCovid about {'text': None, 'filters': {}}: Zinc thiotropolone combinations as inhibitors of the SARS-CoV-2 main protease. ( https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/research/coronavirus/publication/34396374 ) | 17:12 | |
| -RSSBot[LjLmatrix- Latest publications from LitCovid about {'text': None, 'filters': {}}: Multi-Label Segmentation and Detection of COVID-19 Abnormalities from Chest Radiographs Using Deep Learning. ( https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/research/coronavirus/publication/34393275 ) | 17:12 | |
| -RSSBot[LjLmatrix- Latest publications from LitCovid about {'text': None, 'filters': {}}: Comparison of asynchronous and synchronous methods of online teaching for students of medical laboratory technology course: A cross-sectional analysis. ( https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/research/coronavirus/publication/34395669 ) | 17:12 | |
| -RSSBot[LjLmatrix- Latest publications from LitCovid about {'text': None, 'filters': {}}: Safety of administration of BNT162b2 mRNA (Pfizer-BioNTech) COVID-19 vaccine in youths and young adults with a history of acute lymphoblastic leukemia and allergy to PEG-asparaginase. ( https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/research/coronavirus/publication/34398511 ) | 17:13 | |
| -RSSBot[LjLmatrix- Latest publications from LitCovid about {'text': None, 'filters': {}}: Medical therapies for amyotrophic lateral sclerosis-related respiratory decline: an appraisal of needs, opportunities and obstacles. ( https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/research/coronavirus/publication/34392765 ) | 17:13 | |
| -RSSBot[LjLmatrix- Latest publications from LitCovid about {'text': None, 'filters': {}}: Distal Deep Vein Thrombosis in a Patient Cured of Severe COVID-19 Pneumonia at Jimma, Oromia, Ethiopia 2021: A Rare Case Report. ( https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/research/coronavirus/publication/34393520 ) | 17:13 | |
| -RSSBot[LjLmatrix- Latest publications from LitCovid about {'text': None, 'filters': {}}: Lower COVID-19 Mortality in Patients with Type 2 Diabetes Mellitus Taking Dipeptidyl Peptidase-4 Inhibitors: Results from a Turkish Nationwide Study. ( https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/research/coronavirus/publication/34398433 ) | 17:13 | |
| -RSSBot[LjLmatrix- Latest publications from LitCovid about {'text': None, 'filters': {}}: Rapid genome sequencing in hospitals to identify potential vaccine-escape SARS-CoV-2 variants. ( https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/research/coronavirus/publication/34399091 ) | 17:13 | |
| -RSSBot[LjLmatrix- Latest publications from LitCovid about {'text': None, 'filters': {}}: An Innovative Method for Using the Endotracheal Tube in COVID-19. ( https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/research/coronavirus/publication/34394362 ) | 17:13 | |
| -RSSBot[LjLmatrix- Latest publications from LitCovid about {'text': None, 'filters': {}}: Simultaneous donning of goggles and face shield is an overkill and interferes with care of Covid-19 patients. ( https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/research/coronavirus/publication/34397014 ) | 17:13 | |
| -RSSBot[LjLmatrix- Latest publications from LitCovid about {'text': None, 'filters': {}}: Correction to: Perceptions and effects of COVID-19 related information in Denmark and Sweden - a web-based survey about COVID-19 and social media. ( https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/research/coronavirus/publication/34395176 ) | 17:13 | |
| -RSSBot[LjLmatrix- Latest publications from LitCovid about {'text': None, 'filters': {}}: Critical Care Clinician Wellness during the COVID-19 Pandemic: A Longitudinal Analysis. ( https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/research/coronavirus/publication/34398722 ) | 17:13 | |
| -RSSBot[LjLmatrix- Latest publications from LitCovid about {'text': None, 'filters': {}}: A role for interleukin-1 receptor antagonism in severe COVID-19? ( https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/research/coronavirus/publication/34396155 ) | 17:13 | |
| Brainstorm | New from LitCovid: (news): Candidate Psychotropics against SARS - CoV - 2: A Narrative Review. → https://is.gd/BxjB7a | 17:31 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Kosovo: +1765 cases (now 118752), +5 deaths (now 2291) since 23 hours ago | 17:31 |
| LjL | okay, that litcovid thing wasn't intended | 17:41 |
| Brainstorm | New from ClinicalTrials.gov: (news): Procalcitonin Level and the High Risk of Mortality in 30 Days in Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome Coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) Patient , Cases Series. → https://is.gd/UyonOH | 17:42 |
| Brainstorm | New from ClinicalTrials.gov: (news): Lung Functions in Menopausal Obese Women After COVID 19 Recovery → https://is.gd/NN96Yq | 17:53 |
| Brainstorm | New from ClinicalTrials.gov: (news): A Phase III Study to Assess the Immunogenicity and Safety of SK SARS-CoV-2 Recombinant Nanoparticle Vaccine Adjuvanted With AS03 (GBP510) in Adults Aged 18 Years and Older → https://is.gd/PhxkM1 | 18:04 |
| rpifan | smoke weed to avoid covid | 18:04 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Vietnam: +12497 cases (now 293301), +331 deaths (now 6472), +858628 tests (now 15.3 million) since 16 hours ago — United Kingdom: +18848 cases (now 6.3 million), +30 deaths (now 131141), +749312 tests (now 258.4 million) since 23 hours ago | 18:09 |
| Brainstorm | New from Gazzetta Ufficiale italiana: MINISTERO DELL'INTERNO - DECRETO 12 agosto 2021: Rettifica degli allegati del decreto del 22 aprile 2021, recante«Riparto del fondo, di 5 milioni di euro per l'anno 2021, in favoredei comuni di confine con altri Paesi europei e dei comuni costieriinteressati alla gestione dei flussi migratori e delle [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/zZqkvv | 18:15 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Greece: +4412 cases (now 543749), +16 deaths (now 13220) since a day ago — Montenegro: +548 cases (now 107041), +5 deaths (now 1651) since a day ago — Norway: +386 cases (now 145400), +1 deaths (now 810) since 15 hours ago — Yemen: +39 cases (now 7347), +2 deaths (now 1407) since a day ago | 18:34 |
| specing | Oh, interesting: | 18:36 |
| Brainstorm | New from Eric Topol: @EricTopol: New @ScienceMagazine, timely The struggle between vaccine nationalism and the need for global containmenthttps://science.sciencemag.org/content/early/2021/08/16/science.abj7364 by @thecewagnerlab @mcgillu @chadisaadroy @SineadEMorris @rebaker64 @JeremyFarrar @edwardcholmes @EvolveDotZoo @ZekeEmanuel and colleagues → https://is.gd/RtcIJp | 18:36 |
| specing | "People who have previously had capillary leak syndrome must not receive COVID-19 Vaccine Janssen. Capillary leak syndrome may also occur as a side effect" | 18:36 |
| specing | Janssen vaccine^ | 18:36 |
| specing | in EMA updates 4 days ago | 18:36 |
| Brainstorm | New from Eric Topol: @EricTopol: R to @EricTopol: Good graph to show the states that are driving the 4th wave hospitalizations beyond prior limitshttps://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/08/17/us/covid-delta-hospitalizations.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur by @albertsun @giuliaheyward @nytgraphics → https://is.gd/zUxnnT | 18:57 |
| nixonix | you remember the swedish t-cell immunity hypothesis from the last summer? while i dont totally disagree, that there could be t-cell reactivity from low dose and long term viral exposure, and that could be partially protective... | 19:09 |
| nixonix | they tried to prove, using just reactivity (which could be from other viruses, like animal virus exposures a la that singapore study) means they are rapidly closing herd immunity in sweden. summer 2020 | 19:10 |
| nixonix | .title https://twitter.com/ma_jenny/status/1424401731417411585 | 19:10 |
| Brainstorm | nixonix: From twitter.com: jenny ma (@ma_jenny): "I would love to see a T-Cell-Immunity-Study in Sweden right now. Could it be over there and the is now endemic?" | nitter | 19:10 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Kenya: +1488 cases (now 222894), +4 deaths (now 4354), +9773 tests (now 2.3 million) since 23 hours ago — Moldova: +345 cases (now 262589), +7 deaths (now 6320), +6644 tests (now 1.5 million) since 19 hours ago | 19:11 |
| nixonix | i found a swedish scientiest, whose then deleted twitter post was mocked in another post (no idea what it was about), and started to read his tweets a bit. he seems to have that tegnellian attitude, at least in some ways. ill find some example | 19:12 |
| nixonix | .title https://twitter.com/MartinKulldorff/status/1424340615446384645 | 19:13 |
| Brainstorm | nixonix: From twitter.com: Martin Kulldorff (@MartinKulldorff): "Essentially #ZeroCOVID deaths in Sweden for a month now." | nitter | 19:13 |
| nixonix | if you have read swedish or other GBD style peoples posts, where they really dig swedish style of epidemic handling (which is actually a myth, since they had way tighter restrictions than eg in finland - just that their action was too slow in the spring 2020), its selective use of stats and typical denialist style most of time | 19:15 |
| nixonix | i eat antivaxers as a breakfast, but its boring when youve seen all that before multiple times. so i argue with them at times, but most of time im just too lazy because its just too repitive. my fault, yeah | 19:17 |
| nixonix | .title https://twitter.com/Nikolau46844087/status/1424498859615608836 | 19:19 |
| Brainstorm | nixonix: From twitter.com: Nikolaus (@Nikolau46844087): "You cannot compare a country with a severe covid outbreak with a country with zerocovid like Finland. Many countries tried to push back infection but failed with this. [...] | 19:19 |
| nixonix | no we didnt. and no, we were late with borders, closing bars and everything. but were lucky we didnt get more infections in the country before we did something. also the downwards curve was slower here than in most of europe, because we had less restrictions | 19:20 |
| nixonix | oh one thing we had that was tighter than in most of europe. because less cases, we had lower limits for countries where free travelling was allowed in the fall of 2020. that eu was very angry about | 19:25 |
| nixonix | tight borders, thats the key, and we didnt do that this summer, but borders were open to almost everywhere from start of june. thats why we have now more cases than in sweden, germany, norway, most of eastern europe, italy etc | 19:27 |
| nixonix | france tightened measures, and its now the tightest in europe according to owid. germany loosened a bit, so its the second. but they dont consider regional restrictions properly, so its not accurate | 19:28 |
| nixonix | lots of school exposures here. most schools opened week ago. testing is reduced, so cases look stable, but positive percentage went up | 19:30 |
| Brainstorm | New from BBC Health: Covid-vaccine scientists begin plague-jab trial: The first volunteers have received a dose of the vaccine, made using the same technology as the Covid jab. → https://is.gd/0TSsdZ | 19:30 |
| nixonix | looks like this variant will be devastating in schools | 19:31 |
| nixonix | .title https://www.israelhayom.com/2021/08/16/hundreds-of-5-11-year-olds-get-first-dose-show-no-abnormal-side-effects/ | 19:34 |
| Brainstorm | nixonix: From www.israelhayom.com: error parsing title ('NoneType' object has no attribute 'string') | 19:34 |
| nixonix | * Hundreds of kids under 12 get first COVID shot, show no side effects | 19:35 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Italy: +5268 cases (now 4.4 million), +54 deaths (now 128510) since a day ago | 19:36 |
| gabin | Dang, not even a sore arm? | 19:37 |
| gabin | Adults suck. | 19:37 |
| gabin | Youth is wasted on the young | 19:37 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Atlantic: The Coronavirus Is Here Forever. This Is How We Live With It.: In the 1980s, doctors at an English hospital deliberately tried to infect 15 volunteers with a coronavirus. COVID-19 did not yet exist—what interested those doctors was a coronavirus in the same family called 229E, which causes the common cold. 229E is both [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/wPpW3U | 19:53 |
| specing | LjL: do you know of any source giving a side effect profile (both vaccines and covid itself) based on age groups? | 19:57 |
| specing | and sex | 19:57 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Albania: +451 cases (now 136598), +2 deaths (now 2468) since 23 hours ago — Malawi: +244 cases (now 58465), +15 deaths (now 1998), +1498 tests (now 370628) since 22 hours ago | 20:01 |
| Brainstorm | New from WebMD: RSV Respiratory Illnesses Rising for Babies: While the resurgence of COVID cases has been dominating the news, pediatric hospitals report an unexpected rise in serious infections caused by respiratory syncytial virus (RSV). → https://is.gd/h9LS50 | 20:03 |
| nixonix | a source for sex? | 20:04 |
| nixonix | mrna side effects enough, or also other types? i have a study comparing mrna vax induced myo/pericardites to rona induced handy right now | 20:08 |
| nixonix | but if anyone has information on fatalities caused by mrna vaccines, please link me. especially confirmed case that were not old and fragile, anaphylaxis caused by PEG or myocardites (some source claimed zero known for the latter in usa, but i couldnt confirm) | 20:14 |
| nixonix | seattle times, 5 weeks old: "Do we know what in the shots is causing anaphylactic reactions? | 20:19 |
| nixonix | That isn’t clear. Two leading candidates are polyethylene glycol — a chemical found in many foods, cosmetics and medications — and lipid nanoparticles that encapsulate the messenger RNA in the Moderna and Pfizer-BioNTech vaccines, according to Eric Topol | 20:19 |
| nixonix | even antivaxers dont mention anaphylaxis nowdays. i suppose there havent been deaths then, or theyve been exremely rare | 20:21 |
| nixonix | ljl seems to be dissappeared on alps | 20:21 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Spain: +14336 cases (now 4.7 million), +144 deaths (now 82739) since a day ago — Turkey: +19340 cases (now 6.1 million), +294561 tests (now 72.4 million) since 21 hours ago — Canada: +2740 cases (now 1.5 million) since 20 hours ago | 20:38 |
| nixonix | .title https://twitter.com/JacobGudiol/status/1427194184654598146 | 20:50 |
| Brainstorm | nixonix: From twitter.com: Jacob Gudiol (@JacobGudiol): "Nya uppgifter från Danmark som visar på risken att hamna på sjukhus är nästan 3 gånger så hög nu när det är Delta varianten som sprids Det var väntat att Delta skulle [...] | 20:50 |
| nixonix | growing body... | 20:51 |
| nixonix | (not saying its confirmed, but the pile of evidence seems to be growing) | 20:51 |
| nixonix | %tr <sv Nya uppgifter från Danmark som visar på risken att hamna på sjukhus är nästan 3 gånger så hög nu när det är Delta varianten som sprids. Det var väntat att Delta skulle göra folk mer sjuka. Men det här är ett tal lite högre än tidigare uppskattningar | 20:53 |
| Brainstorm | nixonix, Swedish to English: New data from Denmark that show the risk of ending up in hospital is almost 3 times as high now that it is the Delta variant that is spreading. It was expected that Delta would make people sicker. But this is a number a little higher than previous estimates (MyMemory, Google) | 20:53 |
| LjL | nixonix, i think i do need a bit of a break | 21:02 |
| LjL | specing, vaccines probably have that in their main trial paper, covid is trickier even to define | 21:03 |
| LjL | the main phase 3 papers should all be in the resource page and/or Zotero, or check covidvax | 21:03 |
| LjL | Zotero has slipped from the topic, https://www.zotero.org/groups/4391070/covid-links/library | 21:03 |
| Brainstorm | New from Eric Topol: @EricTopol: Israel's 4th waveAn outstanding @FT editorial that succinctly summarizes the data, knowns, unknowns, boosters, need for masks among vaccinatedhttps://www.ft.com/content/572112fd-a713-4b0f-99be-bfcbf8506205 → https://is.gd/9Pe0US | 21:09 |
| twomoon | who made zotero? | 21:25 |
| specing | LjL: main trial paper even for very rare effects? | 21:28 |
| Brainstorm | New from Reddit (test): China_Flu: SARS-CoV-2 disease severity and transmission efficiency is increased for airborne compared to fomite exposure in Syrian hamsters → https://is.gd/yfuVTV | 21:30 |
| nixonix | .title https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-021-95699-9 | 21:35 |
| Brainstorm | nixonix: From www.nature.com: Comparing the responses of the UK, Sweden and Denmark to COVID-19 using counterfactual modelling | Scientific Reports | 21:35 |
| nixonix | UK mortality would have approximately doubled had Swedish policy been adopted, while Swedish mortality would have more than halved had Sweden adopted UK or Danish strategies. Danish policies were most effective, although differences between the UK and Denmark were significant for one counterfactual approach only. | 21:35 |
| nixonix | Our analysis shows that small changes in the timing or effectiveness of interventions have disproportionately large effects on total mortality within a rapidly growing epidemic | 21:35 |
| nixonix | the main reason that the UK saw substantially higher per-capita mortality was that infection prevalence was higher when interventions were introduced | 21:36 |
| nixonix | In Sweden, despite conditions that were initially more favourable, higher mortality resulted from interventions bringing \(R_t\) to below 1 less quickly than was achieved elsewhere. The UK suffered because its epidemic had progressed further than in many countries by the time effective interventions were implemented | 21:36 |
| twomoon | " SARS-CoV-2 disease severity and transmission efficiency is increased for airborne compared to fomite exposure in Syrian hamsters" why is this not surprising at all to me? | 21:36 |
| nixonix | pretty much what i wrote earlier today (i just saw that study, i didnt read that before) | 21:37 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Cuba: +9772 cases (now 536609), +68 deaths (now 4156), +41023 tests (now 7.2 million) since a day ago — North Macedonia: +995 cases (now 163452), +14 deaths (now 5574), +7245 tests (now 1.1 million) since a day ago — South Africa: +10685 cases (now 2.6 million), +553 deaths (now 77993), +52267 tests (now 15.7 million) since a day ago [... want %more?] | 21:40 |
| Brainstorm | New from CIDRAP: COVID-19 Scan for Aug 17, 2021: Bell's palsy and COVID-19 vaccination COVID vaccine in pregnancy, lactation → https://is.gd/8hKiGq | 21:40 |
| nixonix | In contrast, fomite exposure leads to milder disease manifestation characterized by an anti-inflammatory immune state and delayed shedding pattern (in hamsters) | 21:41 |
| nixonix | should we have eaten some sars2 before we got jabs? or those in highest risk perhaps | 21:42 |
| LjL | specing, no, rare side effects are... uhm there was a list maybe from EMA | 21:42 |
| LjL | for AZ | 21:42 |
| LjL | twomoon, i don't know who made Zotero, it is an open source program with a for-profit company offering Zotero-space on the web, i use it because it's made for parsing scientific paper metadata, it's a lot quicker to add papers in it than in the github thing | 21:43 |
| LjL | %links ema adverse | 21:43 |
| Brainstorm | LjL, https://www.ema.europa.eu/en/documents/covid-19-vaccine-safety-update/covid-19-vaccine-safety-update-vaxzevria-previously-covid-19-vaccine-astrazeneca-14-july-2021_en.pdf (14 July 2021 COVID-19 vaccine safety update VAXZEVRIA) informs that the EMA is currently investigating adverse reactions related to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guillain%E2%80%93Barr%C3%A9_syndrome [... want %more?] | 21:43 |
| LjL | %more | 21:43 |
| Brainstorm | LjL, [...] (Guillain-Barré syndrome), Acute Macular https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retinopathy (Retinopathy), https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myocarditis (Myocarditis) and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pericarditis (Pericarditis) (also observed with Pfizer/BNT), and two conditions involving https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thrombocytopenia (Thrombocytopenia), [...] → https://paste.ee/p/APaBI | 21:43 |
| Brainstorm | LjL, [...] ubiquitous and obscure. Most of us have had it, probably first as children , but the resulting colds were so mild as to be unremarkable. And indeed, of the 15 adult volunteers who got 229E misted up their nose, only 10 became infected, and of those, only eight actually developed cold symptoms. → https://paste.ee/p/md8VY | 21:43 |
| LjL | specing, yeah that one is the one i had in mind, https://www.ema.europa.eu/en/documents/covid-19-vaccine-safety-update/covid-19-vaccine-safety-update-vaxzevria-previously-covid-19-vaccine-astrazeneca-14-july-2021_en.pdf | 21:44 |
| LjL | there might be similar EMA reports for other vaccines, not sure | 21:44 |
| LjL | yeah this is for Pfizer for instance https://www.ema.europa.eu/en/documents/covid-19-vaccine-safety-update/covid-19-vaccine-safety-update-comirnaty-11-august-2021_en.pdf | 21:45 |
| specing | LjL: there are, but this isn't broken down by age/sex | 21:45 |
| specing | And I've been reading these safety reports | 21:45 |
| LjL | specing, they don't even know if they *are* side effects for most of them | 21:45 |
| LjL | so it's not going to be broken down by anything | 21:45 |
| twomoon | how does zotero work? | 21:45 |
| twomoon | you kinda make your own space like myspace? | 21:45 |
| LjL | ... i'm pretty sure it's not similar to myspace | 21:46 |
| twomoon | each user gets to make their own page | 21:46 |
| LjL | it can be used offline as your own library of references. it doesn't need to be online | 21:46 |
| Brainstorm | New from ScienceNews: New studies hint that the coronavirus may be evolving to become more airborne: More coronavirus RNA is in fine aerosols than in larger droplets, but masks can reduce the amount of virus in the air. → https://is.gd/Q96xCC | 21:51 |
| nixonix | "people who carried the alpha variant had 18 times as much viral RNA in aerosols than people infected with less-contagious versions of the virus" (my guess couple of weeks ago was maybe 10-100x - instead of 1000x) | 21:57 |
| nixonix | “They say, ‘we need the golden evidence. Show me a live virus that is retrieved from the air,’” Tham says. Viral RNA could be debris from dead viruses that can’t cause infection, says Andrew Pekosz, a virologist at the Johns Hopkins | 21:59 |
| nixonix | looks like its still open, amounts of viable virions or infectious units in small droplets | 22:03 |
| nixonix | as it probably is for vaccinated persons, whose viral load in upper respiratory is similar to unvaccinated for the first 6 days. but how about viable virions only? | 22:05 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for N. Cyprus: +399 cases (now 14065), +1 deaths (now 44) since a day ago — Germany: +4393 cases (now 3.8 million) since 22 hours ago — Eritrea: +6 cases (now 6609) since a day ago — France: +77 deaths (now 112824) since 22 hours ago | 22:05 |
| nixonix | similar with this 617.2 variant, that is | 22:05 |
| LjL | specing, if you just want to be searching through reports related to the vaccines, even the ones where no causal relationship is established, knock yourself out with VAERS... https://wonder.cdc.gov/vaers.html does allow you to search with criteria such as age | 22:12 |
| de-facto | .title https://www.researchsquare.com/article/rs-811181/v1 | 22:15 |
| Brainstorm | de-facto: From www.researchsquare.com: Potential anti-tumor immune response mechanisms of SARS-CoV-2 in lymphomas: can the devil be converted into a boon? | Research Square | 22:15 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Ethiopia: +856 cases (now 290818), +6 deaths (now 4495) since 23 hours ago — Guernsey: +16 cases (now 1104) since a day ago — Niger: +10 cases (now 5734) since a day ago — British Virgin Islands: +9 cases (now 2561) since 3 days ago | 22:30 |
| Brainstorm | New from CIDRAP: First local COVID-19 case in months prompts New Zealand lockdown: Lisa Schnirring | News Editor | CIDRAP News Aug 17, 2021 Also, WHO airs concerns about COVID-19 spread amid interrupted vaccination efforts in Afghanistan. → https://is.gd/gAVqKn | 22:45 |
| Brainstorm | New from CIDRAP: Jim Wappes: White House to recommend 3rd COVID-19 vaccine dose → https://is.gd/aUXNky | 22:55 |
| nixonix | .title https://twitter.com/Unusual_Times/status/1425540986810343432 | 23:05 |
| Brainstorm | nixonix: From twitter.com: Just An Ordinary Bloke (@Unusual_Times): "T95i split by nation. @GuptaR_lab compare to hospitalisations ratio above" | nitter | 23:05 |
| Brainstorm | New from Reddit (test): nCoV: COVID-19 positivity rate drops below 10% in Jakarta: governor | 17AUG21 → https://is.gd/qQKX88 | 23:06 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Mozambique: +1033 cases (now 140071), +17 deaths (now 1748), +4475 tests (now 811132) since a day ago — Australian Capital Territory, Australia: +17 cases (now 169) since a day ago — Ivory Coast: +160 cases (now 52583), +2 deaths (now 365), +2847 tests (now 843716) since 20 hours ago | 23:07 |
| nixonix | .title https://www.forbes.com/sites/williamhaseltine/2021/08/12/a-new-killer-on-the-loose-b1621/ - heres something about t95i | 23:26 |
| Brainstorm | nixonix: From www.forbes.com: A New Covid Variant On The Loose: B.1.621 | 23:26 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Argentina: +2702 cases (now 5.1 million), +78611 tests (now 20.9 million) since 20 hours ago | 23:32 |
| nixonix | scotland has less I, yet higher hospitalization rate. so if it was from that mutation, while supposedly more immune evasive, it somehow reduces hospitalization. doesnt make sense, unless it increases breakthroughs or reinfections, and those would be less severe than primary infections | 23:32 |
| nixonix | so its prob nothing | 23:32 |
| Brainstorm | New from NPR: Texas Gov. Greg Abbott Tests Positive For COVID-19: The Republican Texas governor, who has been fully vaccinated, "will isolate in the Governor's Mansion and continue to test daily," his office announced. → https://is.gd/3je5KD | 23:37 |
| nixonix | .title https://mobile.twitter.com/jneill/status/1427298390010994688 | 23:39 |
| Brainstorm | nixonix: From mobile.twitter.com: James 💙 Neill - 😷 🇪🇺🇮🇪🇬🇧🔶 (@jneill): "UPDATE week to 16-Aug Childhood COVID, England 🧸 Child cases have plateaued at av. 5,700 /day 🧸 Hospitalisations also plateaued at av. 39 /day 🧸 5% of admissions [...] | 23:39 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Cuba′s vaccine rivals BioNTech-Pfizer, Moderna → https://is.gd/FzYx4U | 23:59 |
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