libera/##covid-19/ Friday, 2021-10-15

BrainstormNew from Reddit (test): CoronaVirus_2019_nCoV: With hospitals crowded from COVID, 1 in 5 American families delays health care: reported not being able to get treatment for a serious illness in the past few months; most of them said they had negative health outcomes because of that. → https://is.gd/rbyCXM00:02
BrainstormUpdates for Rwanda: +61 cases (now 98987), +1 deaths (now 1313), +8376 tests (now 3.0 million) since 23 hours ago — Bahrain: +50 cases (now 275912), +1 deaths (now 1391), +17009 tests (now 6.7 million) since 23 hours ago00:07
BrainstormNew from COVID tweets: Marc Veldhoen (@Marc_Veld): mRNA vaccines induce durable immune memory to SARS-CoV-2 and variants of concern. Antibodies will show waning, but memory B en T cells will last!science.org/doi/10.1126/sc… pic.twitter.com/vW6toHsv2k → https://is.gd/LtN3Gh00:12
BrainstormNew from COVID tweets: Eric Topol (@EricTopol): A new study from the Netherlands on Delta transmission to household contacts, w/ or w/o vaccination, adds to the one below. Delta spread is harder to suppress.medrxiv.org/content/10.110…  Same group reported 73% VE vs transmission to unvaccinated household contacts for Alpha [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/R3inNp00:23
BrainstormNew from COVID tweets: Eric Topol (@EricTopol): Putting the malaria vaccine in perspectivethelancet.com/journals/lance… @TheLancet today's cover pic.twitter.com/gSb6iygV71 → https://is.gd/rdEeXD00:44
BrainstormUpdates for Germany: +9056 cases (now 4.4 million), +55 deaths (now 95334) since 8 hours ago — Colombia: +1387 cases (now 5.0 million), +33 deaths (now 126759), +48083 tests (now 26.1 million) since 23 hours ago — Argentina: +1350 cases (now 5.3 million), +51 deaths (now 115633), +52705 tests (now 24.4 million) since 23 hours ago — Switzerland: +6 deaths (now 11165) since 23 hours ago01:09
BrainstormNew from NPR: United States commits another 17 million COVID vaccine doses to the African Union: The U.S. donation from its domestic supplies comes on top of the 50 million doses previously donated to Africa, which world health officials say is 500 million doses short of its goal. → https://is.gd/wy38Ca01:26
BrainstormUpdates for Ecuador: +955 cases (now 513026), +51 deaths (now 32899), +6949 tests (now 1.9 million) since 2 days ago — St. Kitts and Nevis: +45 cases (now 2511), +1562 tests (now 48279) since 20 hours ago — Netherlands: +3679 cases (now 2.1 million) since 20 hours ago — Paraguay: +24 cases (now 460301), +1 deaths (now 16208), +3732 tests (now 1.9 million) since 23 hours ago01:34
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Norwegian signals end of face mask requirement on Scandinavian flights → https://is.gd/Jd1JWw01:48
BrainstormUpdates for Gabon: +539 cases (now 33115), +4 deaths (now 209), +12449 tests (now 1.3 million) since 2 days ago02:36
ublixinteresting take on molnupiravir: https://www.science.org/content/blog-post/molnupiravir-mutations02:41
BrainstormUpdates for Mali: +27 cases (now 15563), +1215 tests (now 435587) since 22 hours ago03:01
BrainstormNew from COVID tweets: Eric Topol (@EricTopol): New on breakthrough infections in 620,000 Veterans"Vaccine protection declined by mid-August 2021, decreasing from 91.9% in March to 53.9%"medrxiv.org/cgi/content/sh… highest reduction with J&J vaccine pic.twitter.com/rbhXOREFPP → https://is.gd/EU7atj03:01
BrainstormNew from Virology.ws: Molnupiravir, a SARS-CoV-2 antiviral drug, is mutagenic in cells: Molnupiravir might be the first highly effective antiviral drug given emergency use authorization for treatment of COVID-19. Should we be concerned about the results of a recent study which show that the drug is mutagenic in cells? Molnupiravir is an orally [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/mtGoNi03:12
LjLublix, yeah it's in the list already, i highlighted de-facto as i thought he could use it as ammunition but he was eerily silent :P03:16
LjLdon't know if it was him but someone was like "it sure looks more dangerous than the vaccines"03:16
LjLbut i don't think that's a very fair comparison to make03:16
LjLyou're giving, ideally, *everyone* the vaccines03:16
LjLyou're giving this thing only to people who actually get COVID and has some risk factors03:16
ublixah didn't notice before dropping it here03:17
LjLi think i was going to make this remark yesterday but then got sidetracked by something03:17
ublixwell he ends the article on a reasoned optimistic note03:17
ublixlol, just noticed Brainstorm's last03:20
LjLoh well yeah there is that too, but i also hadn't noticed :D03:20
LjLin other news today i discovered another scary retrovirus that if you get it, it increases your chances of cancer by a fair bit03:21
LjLi'm not sure i am the right person to expose himself to these things03:21
LjLthe information, that is. the virus also, if avoidable, but it's a complicated balance between getting the information that can let you avoid the virus, and getting the information that just makes you fear something you can't really risk-manage ;(03:22
ublixthat article from Brainstorm seems out of date compared to the older article from Lowe!03:25
ublix"Included is the Ames test ... However the results of these studies will not be published until after the drug receives EUA"03:25
ublixDL seems already to have had sight of these results03:26
BrainstormUpdates for Barbados: +320 cases (now 12105), +5 deaths (now 108), +2551 tests (now 350270) since 23 hours ago — St. Vin. and Gren.: +121 cases (now 4217), +4 deaths (now 42) since 3 days ago — Bermuda: +12 cases (now 5548), +3 deaths (now 95), +3148 tests (now 566212) since a day ago — Guinea-Bissau: +1 cases (now 6124), +241 tests (now 100225) since 22 hours ago03:38
BrainstormNew from COVID tweets: Eric Topol (@EricTopol): For the 1st time, the @CDCgov is now posting national data on vaccination status for hospitalization and death, and by age 👍🙏covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tra…Here are data for death during the Delta waveUnvaccinated > 11-fold risk of dyingh/t @cyrusshahpar46 TY @HHSGov @WHCOS pic.twitter.com/5YQ7mwSSgn → https://is.gd/opYdVc03:54
BrainstormUpdates for Belize: +494 cases (now 23762), +8 deaths (now 457), +10650 tests (now 284342) since 6 hours ago04:03
BrainstormNew from COVID tweets: Eric Topol (@EricTopol): Deaths only graph, by vaccine, and by age group, over time pic.twitter.com/etD1U7ytNu → https://is.gd/dDl71C04:05
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: SYDNEY WELCOMES THE WORLD: No more quarantine for fully vaccinated travellers → https://is.gd/f8O73204:16
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Newly Discovered Bat Viruses Give Hints to Covid’s Origins → https://is.gd/c2c7Rs04:36
BrainstormUpdates for South Korea: +1682 cases (now 339361), +8 deaths (now 2626), +46160 tests (now 15.2 million) since a day ago — United Kingdom: +44745 cases (now 8.4 million), +160 deaths (now 138647) since 22 hours ago — New Zealand: +66 cases (now 4898), +27767 tests (now 3.7 million) since a day ago [... want %more?]04:40
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Koala chlamydia vaccine trialled by Australian researchers in bid to improve species’ survival → https://is.gd/aqLk8405:19
BrainstormNew from BBC Health: (news): Covid: False negative Covid test results confirmed at Newbury Showground → https://is.gd/o8dW3405:29
BrainstormUpdates for Belgium: +3552 cases (now 1.3 million), +6 deaths (now 25732) since 23 hours ago — Pakistan: +1086 cases (now 1.3 million), +27 deaths (now 28228), +53590 tests (now 20.1 million) since 23 hours ago — Canada: +3158 cases (now 1.7 million) since 23 hours ago05:30
BrainstormNew from The Indian Express: World: Sydney to end COVID-19 quarantine for international travellers → https://is.gd/AWspkt06:02
BrainstormNew from The Indian Express: World: FDA unlikely to rule on Merck’s COVID pill before December → https://is.gd/7jNvPY06:12
BrainstormNew from The Indian Express: World: Fourteen US state attorneys general press Facebook on vaccine disinformation → https://is.gd/WgiFUZ07:05
BrainstormUpdates for Peru: +1122 cases (now 2.2 million), +29 deaths (now 199775), +44760 tests (now 18.4 million) since a day ago — India: +14587 cases (now 34.0 million), +1180148 tests (now 588.8 million) since 14 hours ago — Panama: +227 cases (now 469796), +9 deaths (now 7284), +8393 tests (now 4.0 million) since a day ago07:09
BrainstormNew from COVID tweets: Michael Lin, PhD-MD 🧬 (@michaelzlin): CDC could also just state the Pfizer can be used as a booster off-label from its fully approved indication, which is what UK allows.Or CDC and FDA could wait another 2 weeks for the next VRBPAC meeting to decide on allowing heterologous boosters for JnJers... 🐢 → https://is.gd/yLghaq07:26
BrainstormUpdates for Lombardy, Italy: +273 cases (now 887780), +10 deaths (now 34108) since 23 hours ago — Palau: +3 cases (now 8) since 25 days ago07:34
BrainstormNew from The Indian Express: World: Pandemic is exacerbating poverty and inequalities: IMF → https://is.gd/G7aBmr07:48
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Daily Discussion Thread | October 15, 2021: Please refer to our Wiki for more information on COVID-19 and our sub. You can find answers to frequently asked questions in our FAQ , where there is valuable information such as our: → https://is.gd/WsZzCE09:03
BrainstormUpdates for Georgia: +3270 cases (now 652677), +26 deaths (now 9396), +38093 tests (now 9.5 million) since 23 hours ago — Czechia: +439 cases (now 1.7 million), +4 deaths (now 30528), +80339 tests (now 39.1 million) since a day ago09:39
BrainstormUpdates for Lithuania: +2867 cases (now 363630), +27 deaths (now 5376), +26564 tests (now 5.3 million) since 23 hours ago — Hungary: +1249 cases (now 833115), +10 deaths (now 30351), +17554 tests (now 7.1 million) since 23 hours ago10:03
BrainstormNew from BBC Health: (news): Covid test lab in Wolverhampton suspended over wrong results → https://is.gd/4uD4bc10:09
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Covid test lab in Wolverhampton suspended over wrong results. Around 43,000 people in the south west of England may have been wrongly told their Covid-19 test was negative because of errors at a testing lab. → https://is.gd/ciFAqt10:32
sdfgsdfgshow accurate is this test anyways?10:37
sdfgsdfgsthe person has to shove that thing up your nose and he could do a shitty job and reduce accuracy to 10%10:38
sdfgsdfgswith his half assed effort of testing10:38
sdfgsdfgswhich I think happened to me already10:38
BrainstormUpdates for Armenia: +1765 cases (now 278431), +38 deaths (now 5713), +15616 tests (now 1.9 million) since a day ago10:41
BrainstormNew from StatNews: Three lessons for the effort to scale up Covid-19 rapid tests: The slow and sometimes troubled rollout of a Covid-19 rapid test pilot program offers three key lessons for scaling up the braoder use of the tests. → https://is.gd/3OQYeQ10:44
BrainstormNew from StatNews: Opinion: Feeling guilty about getting a booster shot? Here’s something you can do: If you get a Covid-19 booster shot, think of this as a mild and tolerable side effect: a moral obligation to advocate for vaccine donations to low-income countries and for… → https://is.gd/XlzcpA10:56
BrainstormUpdates for Slovakia: +1952 cases (now 433709), +25 deaths (now 12816), +4369 vaccines (now 2.5 million), +11518 tests (now 3.7 million) since 23 hours ago — Taiwan: +4 cases (now 16325), +172114 vaccines (now 14.2 million) since a day ago11:06
BrainstormNew from COVID tweets: Tom Wenseleers (@TWenseleers): R waarden in België voor zowel cases als hospitalisaties blijven verder doorstijgen (voor cases: R=1.19 [1.18-1.21], voor hospitalisaties: R=1.09 [1.00-1.19]). Geen ramp, maar laat je dus zeker wel vaccineren, zodat je zowel jezelf als anderen in je omgeving optimaal beschermt! [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/9NAfab11:29
BrainstormUpdates for Austria: +2432 cases (now 771143), +8 deaths (now 11151), +280850 tests (now 92.0 million) since a day ago11:31
BrainstormNew from COVID tweets: Marc Veldhoen (@Marc_Veld): De tweedeling: behandel de niet gevaccineerde C19 patient ten koste van andere aandoeningen zoals hartziekte en kanker.De agressie en ontkenning zijn natuurlijk helemaal treurig. #Vaccinatie nporadio1.nl/nieuws/binnenl… → https://is.gd/C2tDCy11:41
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Judge dismisses challenges to NSW COVID-19 vaccination orders for workers → https://is.gd/OZTCl512:03
BrainstormUpdates for Russia: +32196 cases (now 7.9 million), +998 deaths (now 221313), +600000 tests (now 199.3 million) since a day ago — Finland: +723 cases (now 149897), +5 deaths (now 1116), +10371 tests (now 7.3 million) since 21 hours ago12:08
BrainstormNew from BMJ: Covid-19: Scientists report “unacceptable” abuse and threats after speaking out during pandemic: Scientists who have spoken to the media about covid-19 have faced shocking and unacceptable abuse and threats, an international survey has shown.Nature magazine found that of 321 scientists surveyed,... → https://is.gd/1PYlqR12:14
BrainstormUpdates for Poland: +2770 cases (now 2.9 million), +49 deaths (now 76067), +39863 tests (now 21.5 million) since a day ago — Latvia: +2142 cases (now 180440), +12 deaths (now 2869), +20050 tests (now 4.6 million) since 23 hours ago12:33
BrainstormNew from The Indian Express: World: UK: Thousands may have gotten false negative Covid-19 test results → https://is.gd/lEwiLc12:57
BrainstormNew from Science-Based Medicine: A Malaria Vaccine for Children: A Historic Achievement that will Save Countless Lives: WHO has officially recommended the first ever vaccine against a parasite, in this case malaria, and it will save thousands of kids' lives every year. The post  first appeared on Science-Based Medicine . → https://is.gd/ckYO4H13:07
BrainstormUpdates for Indonesia: +915 cases (now 4.2 million), +41 deaths (now 142889), +246335 tests (now 42.9 million) since 23 hours ago13:10
BrainstormNew from Politico: Coronavirus: Romania asks for emergency help from the EU to fight coronavirus → https://is.gd/YzY2JO13:30
BrainstormUpdates for Belarus: +2073 cases (now 567938), +16 deaths (now 4369), +44264 tests (now 9.0 million) since 21 hours ago — Nepal: +240 cases (now 804516), +8 deaths (now 11277), +2092 tests (now 4.3 million) since a day ago — Senegal: +6 cases (now 73859), +2 deaths (now 1871), +1266 tests (now 820520) since a day ago13:35
Dredd<Brainstorm> "New from The Indian Express..." <- yikes13:49
BrainstormNew from Reddit (test): CoronaVirus_2019_nCoV: 90,000 U.S. adult deaths from COVID-19 over the summer could have been prevented if victims had been vaccinated, study finds → https://is.gd/oyj7R113:51
BrainstormUpdates for Romania: +15828 cases (now 1.4 million), +365 deaths (now 41130), +67655 tests (now 13.8 million) since 23 hours ago — Estonia: +1275 cases (now 170159), +6 deaths (now 1415), +7864 tests (now 2.0 million) since a day ago — St. Kitts and Nevis: +14 cases (now 2525), +470 tests (now 48749) since 12 hours ago14:00
BrainstormNew from Pfizer: Anonymous: Pfizer’s Abrocitinib Receives Positive CHMP Opinion for the Treatment of Adults with Moderate to Severe Atopic Dermatitis → https://is.gd/uI8SJW14:02
BrainstormNew from r/Science: science: FDA panel recommends Moderna booster for people 65 and older and adults at high risk of exposure or severe illness → https://is.gd/Qk3Mlc14:14
de-facto.title https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valneva_COVID-19_vaccine14:31
Brainstormde-facto: From en.wikipedia.org: Valneva COVID-19 vaccine - Wikipedia14:31
BrainstormNew from Contagion Live: FDA VRBPAC Panel Meets to Discuss Emergency Use Authorization of Janssen Booster Dose: Today, under Topic II, the committee is meeting to discuss the Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) of the Janssen Biotech Inc. COVID-19 vaccine to administer of an additional dose, or “booster” dose, to individuals 18 and older. → https://is.gd/aLbJo114:35
BrainstormUpdates for Switzerland: +953 cases (now 854590), +5 deaths (now 11170), +27517 tests (now 11.3 million) since 13 hours ago — Brunei: +423 cases (now 10251), +1 deaths (now 68), +6203 tests (now 431203) since a day ago — Fiji: +53 cases (now 51701), +2582 tests (now 427690) since a day ago — Guinea: +12 cases (now 30572), +1008 tests (now 564211) since a day ago14:37
BrainstormNew from COVID tweets: Eric Topol (@EricTopol): Just published @NEJMNeutralizing antibody levels and T cells response out to 8 months for Pfizer, Moderna and J&J vaccines nejm.org/doi/full/10.10…Moderna highest antibody response; J&J while lower doesn't fall off and best CD8 T-cell response at 8 months pic.twitter.com/uANSzAylMF → https://is.gd/dkzNT915:08
BrainstormNew from EMA: Human medicine assessment reports: (news): Human medicines European public assessment report (EPAR): Comirnaty, COVID-19 mRNA vaccine (nucleoside-modified), COVID-19 virus infection, Date of authorisation: 21/12/2020, Revision: 14, Status: Authorised → https://is.gd/golaYG15:30
BrainstormUpdates for Iceland: +65 cases (now 12455), +1761 tests (now 1.1 million) since a day ago — Denmark: +1 deaths (now 2679), +80913 tests (now 84.6 million) since 23 hours ago15:39
BrainstormNew from COVID tweets: Derek Lowe (@Dereklowe): And since the point apparently cannot be hammered down enough: these data are (once again!) exactly the *opposite* of what you would see if antibody-dependent enhancement (ADE) were occurring. twitter.com/erictopol/stat… → https://is.gd/Uduyg215:41
BrainstormUpdates for Laos: +573 cases (now 31188), +6512 tests (now 552824) since a day ago — Bangladesh: +396 cases (now 1.6 million), +9 deaths (now 27746), +18980 tests (now 10.1 million) since a day ago — Qatar: +57 cases (now 237798), +1 deaths (now 608), +5545 tests (now 2.7 million) since a day ago [... want %more?]16:04
BrainstormNew from COVID tweets: Eric Topol (@EricTopol): The US population is far less vaccinated than the UK, by more than 11 per cent pointsThe UK was descending and now heading back up towards their Delta peak pic.twitter.com/Qxhs4Rg84n → https://is.gd/bakAxK16:14
BrainstormNew from The Indian Express: World: US to lift curbs from November 8 for vaccinated foreign travelers – White House → https://is.gd/G7epPd16:25
BrainstormUpdates for Uganda: +125 cases (now 125049), +1 deaths (now 3180), +3803 tests (now 1.7 million) since a day ago — Zambia: +46 cases (now 209477), +5912 tests (now 2.5 million) since a day ago — Gibraltar: +13 cases (now 5740), +1 deaths (now 98), +739 tests (now 373877) since 23 hours ago — Bhutan: +1 cases (now 2617), +2065 tests (now 1.2 million) since 23 hours ago16:29
BrainstormNew from EMA: What's new: General: COVID-19: latest updates → https://is.gd/ejWHzQ16:35
BrainstormNew from COVID tweets: Prof. Shane Crotty (@profshanecrotty): Consistent with, and expanding on our Moderna mRNA vaccine immune memory paper last month.twitter.com/profshanecrott…science.org/doi/10.1126/sc… → https://is.gd/t2Iy1e16:57
BrainstormNew from Contagion Live: us: Public Health Watch: CDC Analysis Highlights Vaccine Challenges for People with Disabilities → https://is.gd/xI3ruL17:08
leerbi%cases Switzerland17:13
Brainstormleerbi: Switzerland has had 854590 confirmed cases (10.0% of all people) and 11170 deaths (1.3% of cases) as of 2 hours ago. 11.3 million tests were done (7.6% positive). 5.6 million were vaccinated (65.6%). +953 cases, +5 deaths, +27517 tests since 13 hours ago. See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=Switzerland17:13
Brainstormleerbi: If you know of an official or otherwise good site for data about Switzerland, with a reasonably short URL, please %tell LjL about it.17:13
leerbi%cases Russia17:14
Brainstormleerbi: Russia has had 7.9 million confirmed cases (5.4% of all people) and 221313 deaths (2.8% of cases) as of 5 hours ago. 199.3 million tests were done (4.0% positive). 50.0 million were vaccinated (34.1%). +32196 cases, +998 deaths, +600000 tests since a day ago. See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=Russia17:14
Brainstormleerbi: If you know of an official or otherwise good site for data about Russia, with a reasonably short URL, please %tell LjL about it.17:14
BrainstormNew from COVID tweets: Prof. Shane Crotty (@profshanecrotty): Important paper on COVID vaccine protection against Delta variant. And natural immunity. And hybrid immunity. Extensive and well designed.nature.com/articles/s4159… → https://is.gd/lPd1K917:19
BrainstormUpdates for Germany: +13476 cases (now 4.4 million), +80 deaths (now 95365) since 20 hours ago — Netherlands: +3780 cases (now 2.1 million), +6 deaths (now 18666) since 23 hours ago — India: +4735 cases (now 34.0 million), +241 deaths (now 451906) since 22 hours ago — Canada: +3254 cases (now 1.7 million), +52 deaths (now 28476) since 23 hours ago17:31
BrainstormNew from ClinicalTrials.gov: (news): Covid Vaccination in Liver Transplantation → https://is.gd/3GNhmt17:40
BrainstormNew from ClinicalTrials.gov: (news): Prognostic Value Of Chest Ultrasound (Lung Ultrasound Score) In COVID-19 Pneumonia Patients → https://is.gd/DaZA0517:52
BrainstormNew from COVID tweets: Prof. Shane Crotty (@profshanecrotty): I agree:If you have hybrid immunity, "I would call yourself a victor," said Paul Offit, MD, the director of the Vaccine Education Center at Children's Hospital of Philadelphia. "Call it a victory and bow out.”medpagetoday.com/special-report… → https://is.gd/xMuHwQ18:13
BrainstormUpdates for Jordan: +1021 cases (now 839544), +12 deaths (now 10859), +27715 tests (now 10.5 million) since a day ago — Dominican Rep.: +699 cases (now 368830), +5106 tests (now 2.1 million) since 21 hours ago — Mozambique: +19 cases (now 151080), +1 deaths (now 1925), +2969 tests (now 924272) since 20 hours ago18:33
BrainstormNew from COVID tweets: Anthony J Leonardi, PhD, MS (@fitterhappierAJ): Leaving the UK soon! I need a covid secure haircut :) pic.twitter.com/wusUaYiacd → https://is.gd/oPk8H218:35
BrainstormNew from COVID tweets: Dr. Angela Rasmussen (@angie_rasmussen): Want to study the host response to infection & its relationship to pathogenesis? Want to work with me on SARS-CoV-2, Ebola, & other emerging viruses? Want to be part of a vibrant & inclusive scientific community at a world class national Pandemic Research Centre?APPLY HERE! 👇🏻 [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/qBh0tJ18:46
lastshellI'm pro vaccine and masker, but this new caugh my attention https://www.ktnv.com/news/coronavirus/las-vegas-teen-learning-to-walk-again-after-rare-covid-19-vaccine-reaction18:47
lastshellshe was not able to move becasue some blod cloths caused by the jnj (could be the application of the injection) but who knows18:47
BrainstormNew from BBC Health: Covid tests: I trusted my PCR results: People share their stories of having negative PCR tests after positive lateral flow results. → https://is.gd/TVS41g18:56
LjLlastshell, if it's CVST, which "rare thrombosis" makes me think it is, it's no walk in the park at all, and they're lucky enough to be alive. CVST or other thrombosis with low blood platelets was reported with both J&J and AZ, especially AZ, which caused it to be stopped for younger people in most of Europe18:57
LjLmRNA vaccines also have elevated incidence of thrombosis but of the more uh garden variety kind18:57
LjLvaccines are a risk/benefit thing, the risk *can* exceed the benefit, i think this is important to realize, we shouldn't be anti-vax but we shouldn't be fanboys either, we should try to look as objectively as possible even though it's quite hard. now the Nordic countries have suspended Moderna for younger people... we'll look at their data about that (myo/pericarditis risk) when they submit them to EMA. we already knew that Pfizer and Moderna can cause that, it's19:01
LjLusually self-limiting and not fatal, but if their scientists have some data and based on those data, they find, "so look our estimate of the probability of a 20 year old dying of COVID is N, but their probability of dying from the vaccine is M>N, so we can't recommend the vaccine for people who are 20". even if M and N are both very low numbers, that's going to be the conclusion19:01
LjLbut at the same time it's also important to realize that things like VAERS alone are *not* the sort of thing that gives you that information, at least not without a *lot* of statistical analysis on them19:01
LjLand that even if there's just 1 event, one in total, where a teenager has paralysis after the vaccine, you can be sure you're going to read news about it, and it's normal for the brain to start thinking of the chances of something bad happening as becoming bigger, when you are confronted with a specific case of it happening19:02
lastshellLjL, is there a way to avoid to get the blood cloths before or after the vaccine ?19:03
LjLparadoxically it can worry people more to read about the story of one person who didn't die, than to read "1 out of 10000 die"19:03
LjLlastshell, there is a theory which is somewhat popular at least in this channel that they might be caused by the injection ending up in the bloodstream instead of in the muscle (it's an intramuscular injection, so it shouldn't be injected into blood). the person making the injection can do something called "aspiration" to make sure they aren't injecting into blood. i know that de-facto asked for aspiration, and obtained it, when he got his vaccine19:04
lastshellok19:07
BrainstormNew from r/Science: science: COVID-19 Safety Measures May Have Wiped Out An Entire Flu Lineage → https://is.gd/a5Ahrs19:07
lastshellahh I recall a video from DR JC about aspiration19:08
BrainstormUpdates for Italy: +2729 cases (now 4.7 million), +42 deaths (now 131503), +505943 tests (now 96.9 million) since a day ago19:11
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Lithuanian hospitals stop accepting non-urgent patients amid COVID-19 surge → https://is.gd/2ONDlz19:29
BrainstormUpdates for Luxembourg: +92 cases (now 79720), +1 deaths (now 839), +2560 tests (now 3.6 million) since a day ago — Djibouti: +8 cases (now 13377), +1411 tests (now 230284) since 19 hours ago — Canada: +56 deaths (now 28482) since 23 hours ago19:36
BrainstormNew from StatNews: FDA advisory panel votes 19-0 to endorse booster dose of J&J vaccine: Unlike the authorizations for boosters for the Pfizer/BioNTech and Moderna vaccines, no restrictions were put on the J&J booster. → https://is.gd/87KS2A19:39
BrainstormNew from Contagion Live: FDA VRBPAC Panel Unanimously Votes In Favor of Janssen Booster Doses under Emergency Use Authorization: The VRBPAC committee unanimously voted in favor of the Janssen (Johnson & Johnson) COVID-19 vaccine for use under EUA as a booster dose in individuals 18 years and older at least 2 months after a single dose primary vaccination. → https://is.gd/xaHVew19:50
BrainstormUpdates for Maldives: +45 cases (now 85977), +7470 tests (now 1.5 million) since 21 hours ago20:00
BrainstormNew from Gazzetta Ufficiale italiana: MINISTERO DELL'INTERNO - DECRETO 8 ottobre 2021: Definizione dei requisiti per l'assegnazione  e  delle  modalita'  dierogazione del riparto del fondo con una dotazione di 10  milioni  dieuro, per l'anno 2021, finalizzato a sostenere  le  piccole  e  mediecitta' d'arte e i borghi particolarmente  colpiti  dalla  [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/zETL0g20:22
BrainstormNew from COVID tweets: Michael Lin, PhD-MD 🧬 (@michaelzlin): But eventually, based on the NIH study that started this thread, it seems that Moderna 50mcg, Pfizer, and J&J should become annual boosters, and you get to choose. They would work like annual flu shots, which come in various formats and are not restricted by prior vax history. → https://is.gd/VTtWYL20:32
BrainstormUpdates for Spain: +2248 cases (now 5.0 million), +57 deaths (now 86974) since a day ago20:38
BrainstormNew from COVID tweets: Michael Lin, PhD-MD 🧬 (@michaelzlin): To my pleasant surprise, FDA added the NIH mix & match study to the #VRBPAC agenda. 👏👏Peter Marks for keeping everybody up to date and seeing both forest and trees (he did that for the Pfizer boost VRBPAC meeting too) → https://is.gd/4lK1JM20:43
BrainstormNew from WebMD: State Lotteries Didn't Help Boost Vaccination Rates: According to a new study, lotteries in 19 states designed to encourage people to get vaccinated for COVID-19 did not alter the rate of those who got the shot. → https://is.gd/0SVyID20:53
BrainstormNew from Contagion Live: VRBPAC Unanimously Supports EUA for Janssen COVID-19 Booster Shot: The VRBPAC committee unanimously voted in favor of the Janssen (Johnson & Johnson) COVID-19 vaccine for use under EUA as a booster dose in individuals 18 years and older at least 2 months after a single dose primary vaccination. → https://is.gd/XZvsny21:36
BrainstormUpdates for United Kingdom: +44312 cases (now 8.4 million) since 16 hours ago21:40
BrainstormNew from WebMD: FDA Panel Recommends Second Johnson & Johnson Vaccine Dose: The panel recommends that the second J&J dose come at least 2 months after the first shot. It’s not technically a booster, but it’s moving Johnson & Johnson from a one-dose vaccine to a two-dose one, similar to Moderna’s and Pfizer’s vaccines. → https://is.gd/YHovno21:46
BrainstormUpdates for Germany: +12478 cases (now 4.4 million), +74 deaths (now 95387) since 23 hours ago — India: +16003 cases (now 34.1 million) since 23 hours ago22:30
BrainstormNew from FDA Press Releases: FDA: Coronavirus (COVID-19) Update: 10/15/21 → https://is.gd/jmodEa22:51
BrainstormUpdates for Kuwait: +30 cases (now 412258), +16721 tests (now 4.5 million) since a day ago23:07
BrainstormUpdates for Burkina Faso: +17 cases (now 14657), +367 tests (now 220472) since 20 hours ago — Eswatini: +15 cases (now 46359), +1 deaths (now 1233), +2008 tests (now 361928) since a day ago — Chad: +2 cases (now 5067), +228 tests (now 148082) since a day ago23:32
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Analysis: With boosters, masks and Green Pass, Israel sees a COVID-19 wave in retreat → https://is.gd/V73KMH23:33

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