| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Costa Rica, Milan among winners of Prince William's Earthshot environmental prize → https://is.gd/HGCrz4 | 00:12 |
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| Brainstorm | Updates for India: +14289 cases (now 34.1 million) since 22 hours ago | 00:33 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Brunei: +504 cases (now 10860), +5 deaths (now 73), +5657 tests (now 442053) since 23 hours ago | 01:10 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Paraguay: +188 cases (now 460529), +18 deaths (now 16228), +1781 tests (now 1.9 million) since 23 hours ago — Uruguay: +129 cases (now 391044), +2 deaths (now 6069), +5464 tests (now 3.7 million) since 23 hours ago | 01:35 |
| LjL | okay so this is why i don't have Balloux in the list of people who tweet stuff to Brainstorm except in the -ticker channel... https://twitter.censors.us/BallouxFrancois/status/1449875498465628161 | 01:39 |
| LjL | this all looks very childish from all parties | 01:39 |
| sdfgsdfgs | I heard 150 thousand people have already died in U.K alone | 01:53 |
| sdfgsdfgs | for a country with a population of 67 mill that's insane | 01:54 |
| sdfgsdfgs | the entire wave is coming to an end for U.S and israel, why is it getting worse in U.K ? isn't that unexpected | 01:59 |
| LjL | %cases uk | 02:00 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Uganda: +92 cases (now 125186), +3 deaths (now 3185), +4421 tests (now 1.8 million) since a day ago | 02:00 |
| Brainstorm | LjL: United Kingdom has had 8.5 million confirmed cases (12.8% of all people) and 138997 deaths (1.6% of cases) as of 5 hours ago. 318.4 million tests were done (2.7% positive). 49.4 million were vaccinated (74.3%). +5353 cases since 23 hours ago. See https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/ | 02:00 |
| sdfgsdfgs | 45k today | 02:00 |
| LjL | i don't know, it's scary | 02:00 |
| LjL | well, i kind of do know | 02:00 |
| LjL | but i don't know why it's not doing it (yet?) in italy for example | 02:00 |
| LjL | i don't understand the dynamics of this virus | 02:00 |
| sdfgsdfgs | surely it's not a political mistake or a new variant | 02:00 |
| LjL | i don't know, it might be political laissez-faire, but it's not like in Italy, apart from all the green pass theater, we're under a lockdown now | 02:01 |
| LjL | but we do have to wear masks indoors with few exceptions | 02:01 |
| LjL | which is no longer the case in the UK | 02:01 |
| LjL | maybe that has something to do with it ;( | 02:01 |
| LjL | i should say England, actually, i think Scotland still has a mandate (not sure Wales and NI) | 02:01 |
| sdfgsdfgs | oh italy is in lockdown ? | 02:02 |
| LjL | no | 02:03 |
| LjL | i'm saying, maybe in the UK there aren't enough restrictions, but there aren't very many restrictions in Italy either | 02:03 |
| LjL | yet we're seeing high numbers in the UK while it's still under control in Italy | 02:03 |
| LjL | apart from the masks thing, i really don't know why that would be | 02:03 |
| sdfgsdfgs | yes.. hmm so odd with uk's chart... | 02:03 |
| LjL | i guess we could bring up seasonality again, it's still kinda warm here | 02:04 |
| LjL | not very warm though, heating's on | 02:04 |
| sdfgsdfgs | now that I think of it, I think it makes sense that U.K's oddity coincides with Russia's new spike | 02:04 |
| sdfgsdfgs | surge* | 02:04 |
| sdfgsdfgs | it's a windy island in U.K | 02:04 |
| sdfgsdfgs | it's cold and it's an early winter now | 02:04 |
| LjL | hmm | 02:05 |
| sdfgsdfgs | U.S and israel and italy might follow a similar pattern and start rising soon | 02:05 |
| sdfgsdfgs | I guess in that case | 02:05 |
| LjL | but also | 02:10 |
| LjL | the UK used AstraZeneca a lot more than Italy did | 02:10 |
| LjL | (though sadly Italy used it mostly for more vulnerable people) | 02:11 |
| LjL | Russia also used Sputnik, which is similar to AstraZeneca | 02:11 |
| LjL | it's possible that Pfizer just works better | 02:11 |
| LjL | yesterday a tweet with graphs borrowed from some study showed that Pfizer and Moderna, in the US, do seem to keep antibody titers much higher than J&J | 02:11 |
| LjL | though J&J is also just one dose so not directly comparable to AZ and Sputnik | 02:12 |
| LjL | they didn't test AZ and Sputnik in that study since they don't use them in the US | 02:12 |
| sdfgsdfgs | there's also a recommendation to take a second dose of JJ as a booster | 02:12 |
| LjL | which is silly, because there should be a recommendation to take Pfizer or Moderna instead :\ | 02:13 |
| LjL | but i can sort of guess the legal/regulatory reasons | 02:13 |
| sdfgsdfgs | or just keep getting a dose of whatever you find every 4 months | 02:13 |
| LjL | i was going to find the link to that tweet but you were discussing it anyway i see in the logs, so nevermind :P | 02:13 |
| specing | Nah, they are fine with you mixing vaccines | 02:13 |
| LjL | yeah well, i hope it won't be a life of "let's hope we have some more vaccine every 4 months, forever" | 02:13 |
| specing | they just don't want you to have access to non-approved ones | 02:13 |
| LjL | specing, well for now they only approved J&J booster over J&J initial... | 02:14 |
| LjL | though mixing is expected to be approved also | 02:14 |
| LjL | 2021-10-16.log:[00:47:38] <Brainstorm> New from COVID tweets: Michael Lin, PhD-MD 🧬 (@michaelzlin): Just to make clear the scientific contradictions in today's VRBPAC vote, which recommended J&J boosters for #JnJers but not yet Moderna or Pfizer boosters: pic.twitter.com/FF4uykZOcj → https://is.gd/BB43fE | 02:16 |
| sdfgsdfgs | it's like shooting yourself with Potassium iodide every once in a while under nuclear fallout | 02:16 |
| LjL | yeah well i guess if we don't have a choice... but my brain is not quite in "we're in nuclear fallout mode and i must be thankful for just being alive" mode yet | 02:25 |
| LjL | until recently at least, the rhetoric was "there was an end in sight" | 02:25 |
| Dredd | UK seems to have resumed a negative trajectory again ☹️ | 02:28 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Covid: Thousands of children left without parents in Iran → https://is.gd/Zw2kSS | 02:29 |
| ublx | Dredd: did you see report of ~43,000 false negative PCR results recently? | 02:33 |
| Dredd | Yeah | 02:34 |
| Dredd | Makes you wonder | 02:34 |
| ublx | about these companies given contract without tender? sure does | 02:35 |
| Dredd | More I meant that if it can happen once it can happen again | 02:36 |
| Dredd | And also I'm not sure I trust the gov not to manipulate figures either | 02:36 |
| ublx | well appointing contracts without tender to companies that didn't exist prior to the pandemic, then back channel asking for falsification of pcr results sure would be a cack handed way of manipulating figures | 02:39 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID tweets: Prof Francois Balloux (@BallouxFrancois): I agree with most - but not all - points in this remarkable thread. whatever one's stance on COVID-19 and how we should deal with it, @jburnmurdoch is a voice worth listening to. He really gets it, in its entire complexity, and seems largely immune to dogmatism. twitter.com/jburnmurdoch/s… → https://is.gd/UFLvT9 | 02:39 |
| * ublx bans self for conspiracy minded thunk | 02:39 | |
| LjL | ublx, even if no conspiracy, that's pretty shitty | 02:47 |
| LjL | but then again you do about 1m tests per day? | 02:47 |
| LjL | while we do 300k? | 02:47 |
| LjL | (most of which antigen) | 02:47 |
| LjL | we apparently did nearly 900k one of the past days because a ton of people got a green pass, since it's not compulsory for working and stuff | 02:47 |
| LjL | and they aren't vaccinated | 02:47 |
| LjL | but aside from that, we average 300k or less a day, on the peak days | 02:47 |
| LjL | i.e. wednesday/thursday | 02:48 |
| ublx | this estimate of 43,000 false negatives concerns a single lab that has processed 400,000 tests in its lifetime, but produced the false negatives between September 8th and October 12th | 02:54 |
| ublx | https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/oct/15/public-urged-to-retake-covid-tests-after-false-negatives-in-berkshire | 02:55 |
| ublx | https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/nhs-test-and-trace-pcr-wolverhampton-b1938911.html | 02:55 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID tweets: Josiah Grindrod (@JT_Grindrod): The number of people replying to this with "America has a lot of covid orphans too"We're not the only country in the world you jingoistic fucks. twitter.com/BBCWorld/statu… → https://is.gd/u4GmqF | 03:01 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Peru: +844 cases (now 2.2 million), +27 deaths (now 199843), +37371 tests (now 18.5 million) since 22 hours ago | 03:02 |
| LjL | ublx, uhm, 43k out of 400k... what's the "natural" rate of false negatives with PCR, anyway? i know it's quite sensitive but i assume not 100% sensitive | 03:12 |
| ublx | well, no, 400k in total since May 2020; 43k false negatives in the last ~30 days | 03:13 |
| LjL | ah right sorry, i failed to read what you wrote properly | 03:15 |
| LjL | yes that's not good | 03:15 |
| de-facto | .title https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7240870/ | 03:22 |
| Brainstorm | de-facto: From www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov: Variation in False-Negative Rate of Reverse Transcriptase Polymerase Chain Reaction–Based SARS-CoV-2 Tests by Time Since Exposure | 03:22 |
| de-facto | "Over the 4 days of infection before the typical time of symptom onset (day 5), the probability of a false-negative result in an infected person decreases from 100% (95% CI, 100% to 100%) on day 1 to 67% (CI, 27% to 94%) on day 4. On the day of symptom onset, the median false-negative rate was 38% (CI, 18% to 65%). This decreased to 20% (CI, 12% to 30%) on day 8 (3 days after symptom onset) then began to increase again, from 21% (CI, 13% to 31%) on | 03:22 |
| de-facto | day 9 to 66% (CI, 54% to 77%) on day 21." | 03:22 |
| de-facto | thats from 2020 May 13, hence A/B lineage or such | 03:23 |
| de-facto | .title https://www.eurosurveillance.org/content/10.2807/1560-7917.ES.2020.25.50.2000568 | 03:31 |
| Brainstorm | de-facto: From www.eurosurveillance.org: Eurosurveillance | Estimating the false-negative test probability of SARS-CoV-2 by RT-PCR | 03:31 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Barbados: +195 cases (now 12968), +5 deaths (now 119), +2355 tests (now 357580) since 23 hours ago — Bermuda: +19 cases (now 5567), +3565 tests (now 569777) since 3 days ago | 03:40 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID tweets: Prof Francois Balloux (@BallouxFrancois): I generally try to ignore terrible science, rather than risk amplifying it, but this is such an egregious example of many things that are wrong with COVID-19 mainstream science, that it may be worth a comment.1/news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/… → https://is.gd/hy6Y4t | 03:43 |
| de-facto | extracted the datapoints from Fig 2 in https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7240870/ | 03:58 |
| de-facto | Probability of having a negative RT-PCR test result given SARS-CoV-2 infection = [[1, 100], [2, 100], [3, 97], [4, 68], [5, 38], [6, 25], [7, 21], [8, 20], [9, 22], [10, 24], [11, 27], [12, 30], [13, 35], [14, 39], [15, 44], [16, 48], [17, 52], [18, 56], [19, 60], [20, 63], [21, 66]] | 03:58 |
| de-facto | again that is early 2020 data | 03:59 |
| de-facto | datapoints are [day post exposure, probability for false negative in percent] | 04:00 |
| de-facto | did the extraction with https://automeris.io/WebPlotDigitizer/ https://github.com/ankitrohatgi/WebPlotDigitizer | 04:01 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for St. Vin. and Gren.: +205 cases (now 4623), +6 deaths (now 53) since a day ago — Panama: +102 cases (now 470264), +11401 tests (now 4.0 million) since 21 hours ago — Faroe Is.: +18 cases (now 1350), +3000 tests (now 451000) since 2 days ago | 04:05 |
| de-facto | i wonder how much that curve changed now several mutation steps later | 04:06 |
| de-facto | i bet a lot since delta replicates much much faster | 04:06 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for New Zealand: +64 cases (now 5056), +71708 tests (now 3.8 million) since 23 hours ago — Netherlands: +3690 cases (now 2.1 million) since 22 hours ago | 04:29 |
| de-facto | For days post exposure PCR_false_negative_percent = [100, 100, 97, 68, 38, 25, 21, 20, 22, 24, 27, 30, 35, 39, 44, 48, 52, 56, 60, 63, 66] | 04:43 |
| de-facto | For days post exposure Given_negative_PCR_infection_percent = [11.3, 11.3, 10.7, 7.8, 4.5, 3.2, 2.6, 2.5, 2.6, 2.9, 3.4, 3.7, 4.2, 4.8, 5.3, 5.7, 6.3, 6.7, 7., 7.4, 7.8] | 04:43 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for United Kingdom: +44803 cases (now 8.5 million) since 23 hours ago | 05:32 |
| finely[m] | Looks like the ivermectin thing is 100% extreme right grifters (in the countries with vaccine access anyway) | 06:13 |
| finely[m] | https://theintercept.com/2021/10/13/intercepted-podcast-covid-ivermectin-profits/ | 06:13 |
| finely[m] | https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/oct/18/doctor-who-advocated-covid-19-therapy-including-ivermectin-applied-for-patent-on-same-unproven-treatment | 06:13 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for India: +13596 cases (now 34.1 million), +989493 tests (now 591.9 million) since 22 hours ago | 06:34 |
| Brainstorm | New from Reddit (test): China_Flu: Let's Review Novavax Phase III Interim Results (Released on Oct 11th 2021) (Dr. Syed) → https://is.gd/MBCHBa | 06:42 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Shaanxi, China: +7 cases (now 687) since 23 hours ago — Lombardy, Italy: +297 cases (now 888797), +2 deaths (now 34114) since 23 hours ago — Atacama, Chile: +1 deaths (now 357) since 8 days ago — Canada: +1013 cases (now 1.7 million) since 13 hours ago | 07:36 |
| Dredd | <ublx> "well, no, 400k in total since..." <- Kind of weird that they have given false negatives on more than 10% of their total tests but they are all within 30 days | 07:56 |
| Dredd | 1. why so many tests at all in the last 30 days vs 17 months? | 07:56 |
| Dredd | 2. why so many are actually positive | 07:56 |
| Brainstorm | New from Reddit (test): CoronaVirus_ITALIA: In Italia si è tornati in pista. Green Pass e capienza ridotta → https://is.gd/VBO1iF | 08:16 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Kyrgyzstan: +68 cases (now 179913), +2 deaths (now 2636), +1554 tests (now 1.7 million) since a day ago | 08:38 |
| Brainstorm | New from Reddit (test): CoronaVirus_ITALIA: Che cosa rende un paziente (a)sintomatico? → https://is.gd/JDJuAf | 08:48 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Czechia: +791 cases (now 1.7 million), +9 deaths (now 30554), +35861 tests (now 39.3 million) since 23 hours ago | 09:03 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Daily Discussion Thread | October 18, 2021: Please refer to our Wiki for more information on COVID-19 and our sub. You can find answers to frequently asked questions in our FAQ , where there is valuable information such as our: → https://is.gd/hjto5L | 09:09 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Factory farms of disease: how industrial chicken production is breeding the next pandemic. At least eight types of bird flu, all of which can kill humans, are circulating around the world’s factory farms → https://is.gd/fzymXh | 09:41 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Hungary: +3274 cases (now 836389), +51 deaths (now 30402), +44643 tests (now 7.2 million) since 3 days ago — Armenia: +1192 cases (now 283183), +27 deaths (now 5805), +11204 tests (now 1.9 million) since 23 hours ago | 10:05 |
| Brainstorm | New from BBC Health: Covid in Scotland: Vaccine passport scheme enforceable by law: Nightclubs and large events can only allow entry to people who can show they have had two Covid jabs. → https://is.gd/cgcdwb | 10:13 |
| Brainstorm | New from Reddit (test): CoronaVirus_2019_nCoV: Fact Check: Regeneron Monoclonal Antibody Costs Government $2,100 Per Dose - Moderna's vaccine is $15.40 per dose, Pfizer's $19.50, and Johnson & Johnson's $14.50. → https://is.gd/wH3gAi | 10:24 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for El Salvador: +13 deaths (now 3490), +11325 vaccines (now 4.2 million) since 15 hours ago | 10:30 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: WHO to send envoy to Romania over Covid-19 outbreak → https://is.gd/5sx1Z4 | 10:46 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Romania has the highest COVID mortality rate in the world → https://is.gd/uGYCmY | 10:56 |
| Brainstorm | New from EMA: What's new: Event: EMA regular press briefing on COVID-19 , Online, from 21/10/2021 to 21/10/2021 → https://is.gd/R95wkG | 11:28 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Austria: +1897 cases (now 777679), +13 deaths (now 11180), +248407 tests (now 92.9 million) since 23 hours ago — Poland: +1536 cases (now 2.9 million), +3 deaths (now 76115), +22364 tests (now 21.6 million) since a day ago — Latvia: +1255 cases (now 186869), +7 deaths (now 2897), +8365 tests (now 4.7 million) since 23 hours ago | 12:09 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express: World: Vaccines, masks? Japan puzzling over sudden virus success → https://is.gd/ZCOQjK | 12:21 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Finland: +1310 cases (now 151207), +13783 tests (now 7.3 million) since 3 days ago | 12:34 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Science: science: In a study of the underlying mathematical pattern associated with the reign of the Caesars, researchers at a FAPESP-supported center concluded that the chances of survival obeyed the 80/20 rule seen in many phenomena, from earthquake magnitudes to numbers of followers on social media → https://is.gd/B1Pmpm | 12:53 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Indonesia: +626 cases (now 4.2 million), +47 deaths (now 142999), +439142 tests (now 43.6 million) since 23 hours ago | 12:59 |
| de-facto | .title https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-021-26239-2 | 13:08 |
| Brainstorm | de-facto: From www.nature.com: Preclinical characterization of an intravenous coronavirus 3CL protease inhibitor for the potential treatment of COVID19 | Nature Communications | 13:08 |
| de-facto | Pfizer | 13:12 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID tweets: Brian Hjelle, virologist (@hjelle_brian): Vaccines: trump invented them isn't he awesome they're evil commie Deep State plot and magnetize u w/Gates microchips that'll make u vote lib n horse paste is better and they don't work and doc can I have one now? pic.twitter.com/uelXN45UTt → https://is.gd/gjNnv1 | 13:25 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID tweets: Brian Hjelle, virologist (@hjelle_brian): GQP crushes elections? "Just out organize" themCOVID crushes economy, supply chain? "Talk nice to GQP, they'll vax"Political GQP violence forcing all into line? "Just ignore it" → https://is.gd/loIaT4 | 13:46 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Nepal: +523 cases (now 805560), +9 deaths (now 11293), +7654 tests (now 4.3 million) since 21 hours ago — Senegal: +7 cases (now 73873), +1307 tests (now 823671) since 11 hours ago | 14:01 |
| Brainstorm | New from Johnson&Johnson: Latest News: 17 Million Doses of Johnson & Johnson COVID-19 Vaccine to be Donated to African Union Countries → https://is.gd/fySFWy | 14:07 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID tweets: Brian Hjelle, virologist (@hjelle_brian): Death of fully-vaxed Colin Powell should give all vaccinees pause. Was vax enough? You already know answer. → https://is.gd/yr2h9o | 14:18 |
| Brainstorm | New from Politico: Colin Powell dies from COVID complications: The former secretary of State was fully vaccinated, according to his family. → https://is.gd/BBDMqd | 14:29 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Switzerland: +2364 cases (now 856955), +3 deaths (now 11174), +63156 tests (now 11.4 million) since 2 days ago | 14:39 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Former Secretary of State Colin Powell dies from Covid complications → https://is.gd/f6mF0D | 14:41 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Colin Powell, military leader and first Black US secretary of state, dies after complications from Covid-19. He had been fully vaccinated. → https://is.gd/11CY5C | 15:03 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Denmark: +3 deaths (now 2688), +48627 tests (now 84.8 million) since 23 hours ago | 15:04 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID tweets: Michael Lin, PhD-MD 🧬 (@michaelzlin): Sad that we have lost Colin Powell to COVID-19 twitter.com/TIME/status/14… → https://is.gd/s5FNuk | 15:13 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID tweets: Michael Lin, PhD-MD 🧬 (@michaelzlin): At 84 years old, he would have qualified officially for a booster in late August if he was Pfizer. Wonder if he was Pfizer, and if he was boosted.Very sad as he was still commenting about American politics just a few months ago. → https://is.gd/rsCSOJ | 15:35 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Laos: +285 cases (now 32314), +3637 tests (now 568685) since a day ago — Uganda: +75 cases (now 125261), +4207 tests (now 1.8 million) since 13 hours ago — Zambia: +15 cases (now 209536), +2412 tests (now 2.5 million) since a day ago — Gibraltar: +11 cases (now 5769), +387 tests (now 375374) since a day ago | 15:41 |
| merpnderp | Did Moderna make its booster shot findings public? | 15:43 |
| merpnderp | I can't find a paper, just that 170 people were in the trial, and they make it sound like all they did was measure antibodies afterwards. | 15:45 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID tweets: Anthony J Leonardi, PhD, MS (@fitterhappierAJ): In consideration of this, the WHO's denial of declaring the virus as airborne is poison in the cups of every vulnerable and hapless healthcare worker.Uneducated are dying because they are only given surgical masksApologists are complicit. The WHO is hiding behind individuals → https://is.gd/P23xGe | 15:46 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID tweets: Nurit Baytch (@NuritBaytch): @fitterhappierAJ there are hospitals that are barring people from wearing N95 masks and forcing them to wear hospital-issued surgical masks.@MassGeneralNews would not allow me to see my dr 2 weeks ago b/c I was wearing an N95 and refused to remove it and put on their surgical mask → https://is.gd/XZY7wb | 15:57 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Bangladesh: +339 cases (now 1.6 million), +10 deaths (now 27778), +18812 tests (now 10.1 million) since 23 hours ago — UAE: +104 cases (now 738690), +258717 tests (now 89.6 million) since a day ago — Saudi Arabia: +38 cases (now 547969), +2 deaths (now 8765), +49202 tests (now 29.8 million) since 23 hours ago [... want %more?] | 16:06 |
| Brainstorm | New from BBC Health: Positive trial results for Valneva Covid vaccine: Blood results show it gets the body to mount an immune response to fight coronavirus. → https://is.gd/VDtcJN | 16:07 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID tweets: Jim Sciutto (@jimsciutto): And this: Gen. Colin Powell had multiple myeloma, according to a source familiar with the matter. Multiple myeloma is a cancer of plasma cells that suppresses the body’s immune response. Even if fully vaccinated against Covid-19, immunocompromised are at greater risk. twitter.com/jimsciutto/sta… → https://is.gd/dbusjX | 16:18 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Iceland: +159 cases (now 12614), +8177 tests (now 1.1 million) since 3 days ago — Qatar: +67 cases (now 237996), +5095 tests (now 2.8 million) since a day ago — Namibia: +25 cases (now 128353), +2 deaths (now 3540), +1649 tests (now 732414) since 18 hours ago | 16:31 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express: World: Polio vaccination campaign to begin in Afghanistan → https://is.gd/SAxZZw | 16:40 |
| leerbi | %cases Switzerland | 16:53 |
| Brainstorm | leerbi: Switzerland has had 856957 confirmed cases (10.0% of all people) and 11174 deaths (1.3% of cases) as of an hour ago. 11.4 million tests were done (7.5% positive). 5.6 million were vaccinated (65.7%). +2364 cases, +3 deaths, +63156 tests since 2 days ago. See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=Switzerland | 16:53 |
| Brainstorm | leerbi: If you know of an official or otherwise good site for data about Switzerland, with a reasonably short URL, please %tell LjL about it. | 16:53 |
| leerbi | %cases Russia | 16:54 |
| Brainstorm | leerbi: Russia has had 8.0 million confirmed cases (5.5% of all people) and 224310 deaths (2.8% of cases) as of 4 hours ago. 200.0 million tests were done (4.0% positive). 51.3 million were vaccinated (35.0%). +34325 cases, +998 deaths since 23 hours ago. See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=Russia | 16:54 |
| Brainstorm | leerbi: If you know of an official or otherwise good site for data about Russia, with a reasonably short URL, please %tell LjL about it. | 16:54 |
| de-facto | Damn Russia looks bad, sharp increase and many deaths | 16:58 |
| de-facto | i really hope they can somehow get it under control again | 16:59 |
| de-facto | they really urgently need more vaccine protection, this winter will become harsh | 16:59 |
| leerbi | yeah. me too. | 17:01 |
| Brainstorm | New from BioNTech: New Formulation of COMIRNATY® Receives Positive Opinion from CHMP: NEW YORK and MAINZ, Germany, October 18, 2021 — Pfizer Inc. (NYSE: PFE, “Pfizer”) and BioNTech SE (Nasdaq: BNTX, “BioNTech”) today announced that the European Medicines Agency‘s (EMA) Committee for Human Medicinal Products (CHMP) issued a positive [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/2z9TPL | 17:03 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for India: +12859 cases (now 34.1 million), +164 deaths (now 452410) since 23 hours ago — Brunei: +187 cases (now 11047), +3 deaths (now 76), +2872 tests (now 444925) since 15 hours ago | 17:08 |
| Brainstorm | New from Contagion Live: Infertility Care and the COVID-19 Pandemic: One of the infrequently discussed health outcomes that can be impacted by a pandemic is fertility. Using a cross-sectional study, the research team incremental increases in infertility during this period. → https://is.gd/L41n2t | 17:14 |
| Brainstorm | New from BMJ: Covid-19: Valneva’s vaccine produces stronger immune response than AstraZeneca’s, company reports: Valneva’s covid-19 vaccine produces significantly higher concentrations of neutralising antibodies than the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine does, preliminary trial results show.The phase III trial... → https://is.gd/h2A1gt | 17:25 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Netherlands: +3382 cases (now 2.1 million), +2 deaths (now 18682) since 23 hours ago — Germany: +2065 cases (now 4.4 million), +9 deaths (now 95463) since 18 hours ago — Italy: +1594 cases (now 4.7 million), +44 deaths (now 131585), +219878 tests (now 97.9 million) since 23 hours ago — Chile: +1315 cases (now 1.7 million), +51974 tests (now 22.8 million) since 23 hours ago | 17:33 |
| leerbi | %cases Latvia | 17:34 |
| Brainstorm | leerbi: Latvia has had 186869 confirmed cases (9.8% of all people) and 2897 deaths (1.6% of cases) as of 5 hours ago. 4.7 million tests were done (4.0% positive). 1.0 million were vaccinated (53.5%). +1255 cases, +7 deaths, +8365 tests since 23 hours ago. See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=Latvia | 17:34 |
| Brainstorm | leerbi: If you know of an official or otherwise good site for data about Latvia, with a reasonably short URL, please %tell LjL about it. | 17:34 |
| Brainstorm | New from Reddit (test): China_Flu: Evidence for Biological Age Acceleration and Telomere Shortening in COVID-19 Survivors → https://is.gd/wsPE2y | 17:47 |
| de-facto | .title https://epiforecasts.io/covid/posts/global/ | 17:53 |
| Brainstorm | de-facto: From epiforecasts.io: Covid-19: Global summary | 17:53 |
| de-facto | .title https://metrics.covid19-analysis.org/ | 17:54 |
| Brainstorm | de-facto: From metrics.covid19-analysis.org: COVID-19 Spread Mapper | 17:54 |
| de-facto | .title https://covid19.who.int/ | 17:55 |
| Brainstorm | de-facto: From covid19.who.int: WHO Coronavirus (COVID-19) Dashboard | WHO Coronavirus (COVID-19) Dashboard With Vaccination Data | 17:55 |
| de-facto | .title https://covid-statistics.jrc.ec.europa.eu/Map | 17:58 |
| Brainstorm | de-facto: From covid-statistics.jrc.ec.europa.eu: Covid Maps - Ecml Covid | 17:58 |
| de-facto | .title https://coronavirus.app/tracking/ | 17:59 |
| Brainstorm | de-facto: From coronavirus.app: The Coronavirus App | 17:59 |
| lastshell | toby000[m] spill the beans | 18:04 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Science: science: Potential to bolster misinformation resistance by explaining science: briefly viewing an infographic about science appeared to cause a small aggregate increase in trust in science, which may have, in turn, reduced the believability of COVID-19 misinformation. Replication research encouraged. → https://is.gd/CZNiTH | 18:08 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Greece: +3147 cases (now 697033), +43 deaths (now 15418), +75687 tests (now 23.3 million) since 23 hours ago | 18:10 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID tweets: Eric Topol (@EricTopol): New mix and match vaccine effectiveness data vs Delta showing benefit of AZ (1st dose) then Moderna (2nd)thelancet.com/journals/lanep… pic.twitter.com/XLINT3J3cp → https://is.gd/k9ZR4b | 18:29 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID tweets: Anthony J Leonardi, PhD, MS (@fitterhappierAJ): Right now the WHO has not revised this determination which affects hapless healthcare workersServices are built on continually exposed healthcare workers The WHO has allies in Profiteers who deny airborne spread, exploiting these HCWWHO has other denialist bedfellows as well [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/j0LRYj | 18:40 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Jordan: +1715 cases (now 843204), +8 deaths (now 10887), +32213 tests (now 10.6 million) since a day ago | 19:00 |
| nana | what happened to rebekeh jones, if I can ask that here | 19:05 |
| lastshell | who is she the floridan reporter ? | 19:08 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID tweets: Josiah Grindrod (@JT_Grindrod): #COVIDisAirborne pic.twitter.com/dgk2mbWwLM → https://is.gd/xopccn | 19:12 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID tweets: Lisa Simpson (@DrSimpsonHSR): Delving into the disproportionate impact of pandemic on women scientists @VirusesImmunity @theNAMedicine #science #STEMM #womeninacademia@AcademyHealth @EveKerrMD @Women_Of_Impact pic.twitter.com/WliFOHnWaE → https://is.gd/5AAjFV | 19:32 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Burkina Faso: +18 cases (now 14752), +270 tests (now 221973) since 23 hours ago — Canada: +17 deaths (now 28551) since 23 hours ago | 19:37 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for United Kingdom: +9203 cases (now 8.5 million), +2747616 tests (now 321.2 million) since 23 hours ago | 20:02 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID tweets: Michael Lin, PhD-MD 🧬 (@michaelzlin): Yes and that's why saying the only important goal of vaccines is to prevent hospitalizations and deaths is counterproductive. That protection isn't 100%, so you need the reduction in transmission (herd-ish immunity) that protection from cases provides, and the higher the better twitter.com/DrLeanaWen/sta… → https://is.gd/zXVj4Y | 20:35 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Congo: +448 cases (now 15962), +9 deaths (now 231) since 3 days ago — Spain: +4492 cases (now 5.0 million), +56 deaths (now 87030) since 3 days ago — Mali: +24 cases (now 15643), +1872 tests (now 440105) since 20 hours ago — Djibouti: +19 cases (now 13415), +2 deaths (now 181), +396 tests (now 231332) since a day ago | 20:39 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID tweets: Brian Hjelle, virologist (@hjelle_brian): Quickie summary: We don't have meaningful antibody responses to viruses without "T helper" (CD4+) cells, and it sure helps a great deal to also have "Cytotoxic" T cells (CD8+, mostly). And these are both crucial antivirus defenders... → https://is.gd/r7GHCZ | 20:46 |
| de-facto | .title https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanepe/article/PIIS2666-7762(21)00235-0/fulltext | 20:54 |
| Brainstorm | de-facto: From www.thelancet.com: Effectiveness of heterologous ChAdOx1 nCoV-19 and mRNA prime-boost vaccination against symptomatic Covid-19 infection in Sweden: A nationwide cohort study - The Lancet Regional Health – Europe | 20:54 |
| zutt | aaah | 20:55 |
| de-facto | "The adjusted vaccine effectiveness was 67% (95% CI, 59-73, P<0.001) for heterologous ChAdOx1 nCoV-19 / BNT162b2 prime-boost vaccination, and 79% (95% CI, 62-88, P<0.001) for heterologous ChAdOx1 nCoV-19 / mRNA-1273 prime-boost vaccination. When combined and analysed together, the two heterologous vaccine schedules had an effectiveness of 68% (95% | 20:56 |
| de-facto | CI, 61-74, P<0.001) which was significantly greater (Pinteraction<0.001) than the 50% effectiveness for homologous ChAdOx1 nCoV-19 / ChAdOx1 nCoV-19 (95% CI, 41-58, P<0.001)." | 20:56 |
| zutt | some german health agency has leaked their covidpass signing key.. (rki.de) | 20:56 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID tweets: Brian Hjelle, virologist (@hjelle_brian): There are many other factors that can impede T cells. Look out for immune modulators like Enbrel and other anti-TNF molecules as suspect. These are all being evaluated. Will revisit this later.ENDrheumatology.org/I-Am-A/Patient… → https://is.gd/GPr5va | 20:57 |
| de-facto | zutt do you have a link? | 20:57 |
| zutt | no, but people are selling passes for 300-500 euros in a Finnish imageboard, signed with the rki.de key.. scan this if you have DGC-verifier installed: https://i.ylilauta.org/c/c/0/cc02k.jpg | 20:58 |
| zutt | works with all of the european DGC-verifiers, or whatever they call their "covidpass verifier" locally | 20:58 |
| zutt | the name translates to "contact me at wickr" (wickr being some IM software used by shady people in, often seen in tor as recommended way to contact outside of tor..) | 20:59 |
| de-facto | valid born 6.12.1917 | 21:00 |
| zutt | yep | 21:00 |
| de-facto | dang | 21:00 |
| de-facto | this is bad | 21:02 |
| zutt | someone should probably throw rki.de a message | 21:02 |
| zutt | i dont think this has spread very widely yet, just noticed this myself on finland's subreddit accidentally.. first signs seem to be from ~22 hours ag | 21:03 |
| zutt | s/ag/ago/ | 21:03 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Australian Leader Slam Dunks Ted Cruz For Criticizing Their COVID-19 Rules → https://is.gd/OCHq35 | 21:07 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID tweets: Eric Topol (@EricTopol): "We found no substantial differences in the incidence of SARS-CoV-2 infection or COVID-19 disease up to 20 weeks after vaccination" with either AZ or Pfizer vaccines in over 300,000 health care and social workers medrxiv.org/content/10.110… @bengoldacre @OpenSafely pic.twitter.com/iv65y5s4oF → https://is.gd/Kj2Q4G | 21:29 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID tweets: Prof. Shane Crotty (@profshanecrotty): This is a very intriguing pre-print. I am interested in seeing the final peer-reviewed paper. It is the most extensive data in America I have seen on COVID vaccine efficacy over time in a 'real world' cohort study. Big conclusions:medrxiv.org/content/10.110… pic.twitter.com/9WDttIHYra → https://is.gd/vvnAXp | 21:39 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: I am Dr. Richard Besser, pediatrician and president/CEO of the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation, the nation’s largest health philanthropy. I spent 13 years at the CDC and was chief health and medical editor at ABC News. Let’s keep kids and families safe and healthy during COVID-19. AMA!: I am the President and CEO of the [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/fKVQwD | 21:49 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Canada: +939 cases (now 1.7 million), +16 deaths (now 28553) since 23 hours ago | 22:06 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Portugal has the highest COVID-19 vaccination rate in the world - about 84% of the country's 10.3 million population is now fully vaccinated → https://is.gd/Jv6c2G | 22:10 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID tweets: Brian Hjelle, virologist (@hjelle_brian): Quite likely this is wrong, but I'll say it anyway. It might benefit some people to have flu immediately before contracting COVID- IF flu elicits an interferon response. SARS2 HATES interferon and can't survive with it present. → https://is.gd/L7hwau | 22:31 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Germany: +6132 cases (now 4.4 million), +50 deaths (now 95504) since 23 hours ago | 22:31 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID tweets: Fabrizio Chiodo (@FabrizioChiodo): -02.08.2021, 9629 COVID-19 cases, 24.5% positive tests-18.10.2021, 1844 COVID-19 cases, 6% positive testsIn 77 days in Cuba, and numbers are getting every day better90% of the Cuban population with one dose, 62% fully vaccinated, 92% children with one doseVaccines work!!! → https://is.gd/RNKmt5 | 22:52 |
| Brainstorm | New from StatNews: Pharma: ‘Make a gesture of humanity’: Pope Francis urges drug makers to release Covid-19 vaccine patents → https://is.gd/mZqUrG | 23:03 |
| sdfgsdfgs | aaahahaa DANIEL BERNSTEIN is commenting on https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.10.08.21264595v1 | 23:20 |
| sdfgsdfgs | He's totally worried about the contradicting data | 23:21 |
| sdfgsdfgs | maybe he's not dan bernstein =/ | 23:21 |
| sdfgsdfgs | "Declines in VE for cases may have been primarily driven y factors other than waning" ..... | 23:23 |
| sdfgsdfgs | so what's the point of writing the paper ? we could have been rolling around like hamsters | 23:24 |
| sdfgsdfgs | we may have been rolling like hamsters | 23:24 |
| sdfgsdfgs | so may we all | 23:25 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Dominican Rep.: +996 cases (now 371447), +3 deaths (now 4090), +5622 tests (now 2.1 million) since a day ago — Kuwait: +39 cases (now 412371), +1 deaths (now 2458), +19429 tests (now 4.6 million) since a day ago | 23:33 |
| Arsanerit | I didn't realise until now that RKI is on GitHub with its open data: https://github.com/robert-koch-institut | 23:34 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID tweets: Eric Topol (@EricTopol): Systematic testing every 2-4 weeks of ~2,400 health care workers post-vaccination. Only 1.5% asymptomatic cases identified, and PCR Ct was high (mean 31) suggesting they were unlikely to be infectious (mostly pre-Delta)acpjournals.org/doi/pdf/10.732… @AnnalsofIM @andrebaj pic.twitter.com/JUJt88Anzy → https://is.gd/xPl2kd | 23:34 |
| LjL | sdfgsdfgs, uhm, they have data up to the end of august... so like... they can see that "before delta" vs "after delta" is a big difference, but i think we did know that already. then they can't see further waning, but is that significant enough? israel did see further waning after having had delta for longer, and vaccines for longer too | 23:56 |
| LjL | i am also slightly perplexed at this supposedly very low level of VE against hospitalization. didn't J&J end up with 60% against hospitalization in... err... the last thing? | 23:57 |
| * LjL is a bit distracted lately | 23:57 | |
| LjL | yeah it was from this https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/1449454401949601792/photo/2 | 23:58 |
| LjL | very wide CI, but still, even the upper end is lower than what they have | 23:58 |
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