libera/##covid-19/ Wednesday, 2021-10-20

BrainstormNew from COVID tweets: Eric Topol (@EricTopol): In the annals of speculation, the claim that monoclonal antibodies would have saved Colin Powell's life, from a company that makes themft.com/content/a65136… @kiranstacey @JamieSmythF Reminder: a substantial minority of patients in the mAb clinical trials failed to [... want %more?] → https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/145058109234436506000:06
BrainstormUpdates for Bahrain: +74 cases (now 276262), +1 deaths (now 1392), +14414 tests (now 6.7 million) since 23 hours ago00:08
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Brazilian Leader’s Pandemic Handling Draws Explosive Allegation: Homicide. A long-awaited report from a panel of Brazilian senators concludes that Jair Bolsonaro purposely let the coronavirus kill Brazilians in a failed bid for herd immunity → https://old.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/qbmdlt/brazilian_leaders_pandemic_handling_draws/00:27
BrainstormNew from COVID tweets: Anthony J Leonardi, PhD, MS (@fitterhappierAJ): Read this, then tell me Ebola-Zaire isn't airborne.nature.com/articles/srep0… → https://twitter.com/fitterhappierAJ/status/145059123733399142800:37
LjLpls Leonardi no00:51
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Leaked Covid-19 report calls for mass homicide charges against Brazilian President Jair Bolsonaro → https://old.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/qbmtd3/leaked_covid19_report_calls_for_mass_homicide/00:58
LjLhere's an example of how terrible "quoting" by taking pictures of small snippets of text out of context can be: https://twitter.com/louiseUrquhart3/status/145059489824835585001:02
LjLthis person may not be doing it maliciously, but look at my reply, and at theirs01:02
LjLit's just misleading, completely01:03
LjLthen we can say, sure, the UK acted like that anyway. okay. fine. but a document that is about *influenza* pandemics doesn't magically become about *all* pandemics just because in a given paragraph they forget to say "influenza"01:03
BrainstormNew from StatNews: Sex of the fetus influences the mother’s response to Covid-19 infection, new research shows: New research on Covid-19 during pregnancy offers intriguing clues to one of the pandemic’s enduring mysteries: why [... want %more?] → https://www.statnews.com/2021/10/19/sex-of-the-fetus-influences-the-mothers-response-to-covid-19-infection-new-research-shows/?utm_campaign=rss01:08
BrainstormUpdates for Cayman Is.: +84 cases (now 1095) since 5 days ago — Argentina: +1303 cases (now 5.3 million), +33 deaths (now 115737), +50973 tests (now 24.6 million) since a day ago — Switzerland: +3 deaths (now 11181) since 10 hours ago01:10
BrainstormUpdates for Ecuador: +1061 cases (now 514087), +38 deaths (now 32937), +16417 tests (now 1.9 million) since 5 days ago01:35
BrainstormNew from COVID tweets: Justin Loe (@JustinALoe): "SARS-CoV-2 infection causes immunodeficiency in recovered patients by downregulating CD19 expression in B cells via enhancing B-cell metabolism"@fitterhappierAJ @EricTopol @AndrewNoymer @RolandBakerIII nature.com/articles/s4139… → https://twitter.com/JustinALoe/status/145060503544920064301:39
BrainstormUpdates for Uruguay: +191 cases (now 391358), +9669 tests (now 3.7 million) since a day ago02:00
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Dennis Prager intentionally caught Covid-19 → https://old.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/qboaf1/dennis_prager_intentionally_caught_covid19/02:20
BrainstormUpdates for Canada: +2483 cases (now 1.7 million), +41 deaths (now 28657), +376459 tests (now 45.2 million) since 23 hours ago — Martinique: +365 cases (now 42634), +14 deaths (now 670), +17839 tests (now 376921) since 4 days ago — United Kingdom: +43697 cases (now 8.6 million) since 23 hours ago02:37
BrainstormUpdates for Barbados: +382 cases (now 13553), +1 deaths (now 120), +4624 tests (now 362204) since a day ago — Belize: +321 cases (now 24768), +1 deaths (now 466), +2252 tests (now 291691) since 22 hours ago03:02
BrainstormNew from COVID tweets: Eric Topol (@EricTopol): Considerable neutralizing antibody decline after both Pfizer and Astra Zeneca vaccines over 3-7 months in over 500 healthcare workers, but much less so in those with prior Covid  medrxiv.org/content/10.110… pic.twitter.com/pt8nCtpK5c → https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/145062604009147187203:02
BrainstormNew from COVID tweets: Eric Topol (@EricTopol): To be clear: All were vaccinated, but hybrid immunity—prior covid plus vaccination—had a more durable neutralizing antibody response → https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/145062830568246067503:13
Dredd<LjL> "this person may not be doing..." <- Yeah it literally even does say influenza in their photo too03:22
BrainstormNew from Reddit (test): Covid2019: More data show COVID-19 increases risk for birth, neonatal complications → https://old.reddit.com/r/Covid2019/comments/qbpqng/more_data_show_covid19_increases_risk_for_birth/03:23
LjLDredd, i spye with my little eye a lyke03:24
DreddLol, LjL, your crime - like spying - your sentence - one month in the Iso-Cubes 🧑‍⚖️ 🔨03:25
LjLuh oh it's The Law03:26
ublxLjL: i'm finding several of the minified links from yesterday are not resolvable (eg https://is.gd/C2XXso); any ideas?03:28
DreddLjL: on a more serious note, I was going to reply but didn't really have anything to add03:29
BrainstormUpdates for Bermuda: +26 cases (now 5593), +6380 tests (now 576157) since a day ago — S. Sudan: +15 cases (now 12250), +3806 tests (now 243877) since 4 hours ago — St. Vin. and Gren.: +10 cases (now 4637), +1 deaths (now 54), +3975 tests (now 83999) since a day ago03:39
LjLublx, at present i cannot connect to is.gd at all03:42
BrainstormNew from Reddit (test): China_Flu: Novavax Oct 11th 2021 Interim Results (Severe Outcome Data Review) (Dr. Syed) → https://old.reddit.com/r/China_Flu/comments/qbpyoz/novavax_oct_11th_2021_interim_results_severe/03:44
BrainstormNew from The Indian Express: World: Brazil’s Bolsonaro should face homicide charge for Covid-19 errors, says Senate report → https://indianexpress.com/article/world/brazil-jair-bolsonaro-covid-murder-charges-7580810/04:15
BrainstormUpdates for South Korea: +1570 cases (now 346088), +9 deaths (now 2698), +98382 tests (now 15.3 million) since 23 hours ago — New Zealand: +59 cases (now 5213), +43249 tests (now 3.8 million) since 23 hours ago — Netherlands: +3938 cases (now 2.1 million) since 22 hours ago04:29
BrainstormUpdates for Belgium: +3854 cases (now 1.3 million), +17 deaths (now 25797) since 23 hours ago05:31
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Australia moves to phase B of reopening plan as vaccinations hit 70 per cent → https://old.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/qbs053/australia_moves_to_phase_b_of_reopening_plan_as/05:50
LjL*sigh* they still take 70% as a sort of dividing line06:01
LjLeven though that's a number as old as the pandemic itself by now, and definitely meaningless now06:01
BrainstormNew from StatNews: Pharma: Gates Foundation will provide $120 million to ensure generic production of Merck’s Covid-19 pill → https://www.statnews.com/pharmalot/2021/10/20/covid19-merck-gates-pill-patents-who/?utm_campaign=rss06:11
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Charting the jab: Australia overtakes US for percentage fully vaccinated → https://old.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/qbsj10/charting_the_jab_australia_overtakes_us_for/06:21
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Mandatory vaccination to be introduced for most Western Australia workers, Mark McGowan says → https://old.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/qbsmw3/mandatory_vaccination_to_be_introduced_for_most/06:31
BrainstormUpdates for Peru: +775 cases (now 2.2 million), +46 deaths (now 199928), +36564 tests (now 18.6 million) since 23 hours ago — Germany: +7883 cases (now 4.4 million) since 13 hours ago06:33
BrainstormUpdates for India: +12228 cases (now 34.1 million), +2505016 tests (now 594.4 million) since 13 hours ago — Panama: +203 cases (now 470598), +3 deaths (now 7297), +7246 tests (now 4.0 million) since a day ago07:11
BrainstormUpdates for Cayman Islands, United Kingdom: +84 cases (now 1095) since 5 days ago — Alaska, United States: +2823 cases (now 130590), +66 deaths (now 683) since 3 days ago — Lombardy, Italy: +412 cases (now 889321), +7 deaths (now 34126) since 23 hours ago — Inner Mongolia, China: +8 cases (now 433) since 23 hours ago07:35
sdfgsdfgsLjL nobody cares about other states than NSW and VIC though, all states are closed to each other except those two lol07:46
sdfgsdfgsand in those, rates are around almost 95% first dose07:46
sdfgsdfgsso that's where we will be in a few weeks in two of our states07:47
sdfgsdfgsfor double dose as well07:47
sdfgsdfgs%cases new zealand07:50
Brainstormsdfgsdfgs: New Zealand has had 5214 confirmed cases (0.1% of all people) and 28 deaths (0.5% of cases) as of 2 hours ago. 3.8 million tests were done (0.1% positive). 3.6 million were vaccinated (72.0%). +59 cases, +43249 tests since 23 hours ago. See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=New%20Zealand07:50
Brainstormsdfgsdfgs: If you know of an official or otherwise good site for data about New Zealand, with a reasonably short URL, please %tell LjL about it.07:50
BrainstormNew from The Indian Express: World: On a Pacific Island, Russia tests its battle plan on climate change → https://indianexpress.com/article/world/on-a-pacific-island-russia-tests-its-battle-plan-on-climate-change-7581061/08:16
BrainstormNew from COVID tweets: Eric Topol (@EricTopol): Quite a lede'recommend that President Jair Bolsonaro be charged with “crimes against humanity,” asserting that he intentionally let the coronavirus rip thru the country and kill hundreds of thousands in a failed bid to achieve herd immunity' [... want %more?] → https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/145070921621419622908:26
BrainstormNew from The Indian Express: World: Borders reopen, and New York tries to woo international travelers back → https://indianexpress.com/article/world/borders-reopen-and-new-york-tries-to-woo-international-travelers-back-7581087/08:57
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Daily Discussion Thread | October 20, 2021: Please refer to our Wiki for more information on COVID-19 and our sub. You can find answers to frequently asked questions in our FAQ , where there is valuable information such as our: → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/qbuz03/daily_discussion_thread_october_20_2021/09:07
BrainstormNew from EMA: Human medicine assessment reports: (news): Human medicines European public assessment report (EPAR): Vaxzevria (previously COVID-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca), COVID-19 Vaccine (ChAdOx1-S [recombinant]), COVID-19 virus infection, Date of authorisation: 29/01/2021, [... want %more?] → https://www.ema.europa.eu/en/medicines/human/EPAR/vaxzevria-previously-covid-19-vaccine-astrazeneca09:18
BrainstormNew from Virological.org: Latest topics: Missing G21987A mutation in SARS-CoV-2 delta variants due to non-specific amplification by ARTIC v3 primers: Context The G21987A mutation, which is found in the delta lineage of SARS-CoV-2, is [... want %more?] → https://virological.org/t/missing-g21987a-mutation-in-sars-cov-2-delta-variants-due-to-non-specific-amplification-by-artic-v3-primers/76409:28
BrainstormUpdates for Georgia: +5219 cases (now 675771), +42 deaths (now 9588), +57301 tests (now 9.7 million) since a day ago — Czechia: +3269 cases (now 1.7 million), +4 deaths (now 30574), +74722 tests (now 39.5 million) since a day ago — United Kingdom: +43637 cases (now 8.6 million) since 18 hours ago09:40
BrainstormUpdates for Lithuania: +3504 cases (now 376089), +22 deaths (now 5511), +25609 tests (now 5.4 million) since a day ago — Armenia: +2066 cases (now 286303), +28 deaths (now 5870), +15065 tests (now 1.9 million) since a day ago — Hungary: +1668 cases (now 838916), +30 deaths (now 30448), +15524 tests (now 7.2 million) since a day ago10:05
BrainstormNew from BBC Health: Covid: Bring back rules amid rising cases, urge NHS chiefs: But the business secretary says it is not time for "Plan B" and he wants to avoid further lockdowns. → https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-58976577?at_medium=RSS&at_campaign=KARANGA10:11
BrainstormNew from COVID tweets: Marc Veldhoen (@Marc_Veld): Effectiveness Pfizer/BioNtech in 12-18 year olds.Among hospitalized U.S. 12–18 years, vaccine effectiveness of 2 doses of Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine against COVID-19 hospitalization during June–September 2021, was 93% (95% confidence interval = [... want %more?] → https://twitter.com/Marc_Veld/status/145073645284585472010:22
BrainstormUpdates for Estonia: +1346 cases (now 175782), +3 deaths (now 1438), +8750 tests (now 2.0 million) since 23 hours ago — Germany: +7885 cases (now 4.4 million) since 17 hours ago10:30
BrainstormNew from COVID tweets: Marc Veldhoen (@Marc_Veld): "We can live with viruses — COVID isn't the first, or last, threat"We should take care, be vigilant, but we need not be afraid of the future. SARS-COV-2 is here to stay, but COVID-19 can largely be avoided. pic.twitter.com/yULikkCsbu thehill.com/opinion/health… → https://twitter.com/Marc_Veld/status/145074117876539801810:33
BrainstormNew from COVID tweets: Marc Veldhoen (@Marc_Veld): "If the pandemic has a silver lining, I hope it is this - that it has led to a greater collective understanding of threats we have always faced, and a greater collective commitment to the biomedical research enterprise that strives to keep us one step ahead." → https://twitter.com/Marc_Veld/status/145074157909069414510:43
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: UK doctors call for urgent return of Covid restrictions as experts monitor new mutation → https://old.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/qbwai3/uk_doctors_call_for_urgent_return_of_covid/10:53
BrainstormUpdates for Slovakia: +3479 cases (now 443214), +8 deaths (now 12872), +16199 tests (now 3.8 million) since 23 hours ago — Papua New Guinea: +413 cases (now 25769), +4769 tests (now 207207) since 19 hours ago11:07
BrainstormUpdates for Austria: +3727 cases (now 783996), +13 deaths (now 11209), +335375 tests (now 93.6 million) since 21 hours ago11:32
BrainstormNew from The Indian Express (Health): Health: Spinal fungal infection in Covid-recovered patients: Know about the rare condition → https://indianexpress.com/article/lifestyle/health/spinal-fungal-infection-covid-recovered-patients-pune-symptoms-treatment-immunity-7579245/11:36
leerbi%cases switzerland11:45
Brainstormleerbi: Switzerland has had 858198 confirmed cases (10.0% of all people) and 11181 deaths (1.3% of cases) as of 10 hours ago. 11.4 million tests were done (7.5% positive). 5.7 million were vaccinated (65.8%). +3 deaths since 10 hours ago. See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=Switzerland11:45
Brainstormleerbi: If you know of an official or otherwise good site for data about Switzerland, with a reasonably short URL, please %tell LjL about it.11:45
leerbi%cases russia11:46
Brainstormleerbi: Russia has had 8.1 million confirmed cases (5.5% of all people) and 226353 deaths (2.8% of cases) as of 14 minutes ago. 200.0 million tests were done (4.0% positive). 51.4 million were vaccinated (35.0%). +34073 cases, +1028 deaths since a day ago. See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=Russia11:46
Brainstormleerbi: If you know of an official or otherwise good site for data about Russia, with a reasonably short URL, please %tell LjL about it.11:46
BrainstormNew from COVID tweets: Prof Francois Balloux (@BallouxFrancois): For a country of ~66M inhabitants (e.g. UK or France), endemicity might correspond to ~20k COVID-19 infections per day on average. 6/ → https://twitter.com/BallouxFrancois/status/145075829103488204911:46
sdfgsdfgswow, it will be so exciting if the new uk delta variant shows up in the daily case charts in Israel. Apparently they just announced their first AY.4.211:49
undefined_bobwhy Israel?11:54
BrainstormNew from COVID tweets: Prof Francois Balloux (@BallouxFrancois): Assuming a per-infection fatality rate of 0.1% (once everyone has been vaccinated and / or previously infected) would correspond to ~7000 deaths/year.7/ → https://twitter.com/BallouxFrancois/status/145075829351377306111:57
sdfgsdfgsUK and Israel are good cases to compare11:57
sdfgsdfgsalso U.S of course11:57
BrainstormNew from Medical Xpress: Russia's daily coronavirus deaths mount to another high: Russia's coronavirus deaths surged to another daily record Wednesday as soaring infections prompted the Cabinet to suggest declaring a nonworking week to stem contagion. → https://medicalxpress.com/news/2021-10-russia-daily-coronavirus-deaths-mount.html12:08
undefined_bobsdfgsdfgs: ah okay, I see12:09
BrainstormUpdates for Poland: +5560 cases (now 3.0 million), +75 deaths (now 76254), +22634 vaccines (now 20.1 million) since a day ago — Finland: +312 cases (now 152099), +1467 vaccines (now 4.2 million), +19872 tests (now 7.4 million) since 22 hours ago12:09
DreddUK are using the term "delta+" when this was already a term for a different variant back in April in India 🤦‍♂️12:13
Dredd This happens because we try to make "special friendly names" for the variants but we don't do it aggressively enough to cover all the variants of concern worldwide12:14
sdfgsdfgs"But the subtype causing concern in Britain is AY.4.2, which has 'nothing to do' with India's experience of Delta Plus variants, says an expert."12:20
sdfgsdfgsjust an excerpt12:20
sdfgsdfgshttps://www.scmp.com/week-asia/health-environment/article/3153007/covid-19-delta-subvariant-amid-rising-concerns-britain12:20
DreddYeah they're totally different12:20
sdfgsdfgsah now I see what you meant :D12:21
sdfgsdfgsthey could be sued for copyright12:21
undefined_boblol12:21
Dreddha ah12:22
undefined_bobUK still got 40k+ cases per day. Thats so much12:23
DreddLooks like we're heading for a bad winter12:24
DreddEspecially if a significant new strain pops up (which I will called covid-next 😛)12:24
DreddThink Boris might schedule it in for the beginning of December 🤦‍♂️12:24
undefined_bobtoday I read about the statement from the hospital guy who ask politics for help but got denied12:25
sdfgsdfgsif they do that and go back to lockdowns, people will be angrier than ever12:26
undefined_bobI dont understand people12:28
undefined_bobthey think the gov is evil when in reality the gov tries to protect the country12:29
sdfgsdfgsthis whole thing feels surreal, obviously they're improving the virus and releasing it back, maybe we are already in a war lol12:29
sdfgsdfgsin the meantime, a country with 2 billion population never ever had a covid case12:31
sdfgsdfgsright in the middle of asian continent12:32
DreddI wasn't alluding to a conspiracy btw - I just mean Boris will breed a new variant from his incompetence by doing too little too late12:32
DreddThough tbh Delta is so infectious and the UK populace so belligerent that there isn't really anything he could do anyway12:33
BrainstormUpdates for Brunei: +166 cases (now 11386), +1 deaths (now 78), +3000 tests (now 454179) since 22 hours ago12:34
sdfgsdfgslets see how it goes, it's exciting12:34
sdfgsdfgsI postponed my first dose for this shitshow12:34
DreddAre you anti-vax?12:38
sdfgsdfgsyes I am12:38
DreddI had my second dose in June 😀12:38
sdfgsdfgssounds like it's been a while :p12:39
DreddShould be due a booster under current UK rules around the end of the year12:39
BrainstormNew from Politico: British politics: UK minister: Not time for coronavirus ‘plan B’ → https://www.politico.eu/article/uk-minister-kwasi-kwarteng-coronavirus-plan-b/?utm_source=RSS_Feed&utm_medium=RSS&utm_campaign=RSS_Syndication12:39
DreddAh yes, the business secretary speaking on the issue of a fucking pandemic12:40
DreddUK politics at its finest 🛼12:40
sdfgsdfgsyeah I don't want to be dependent on this and hope memory cells t cells and this and that work. It sounds like we don't know shit, and I've had many cases around me. Things are usually mild for my age bracket.. Smoking, overweight 60 year old ladies are under bigger risk12:40
Dredds/🛼/🙄/12:40
DreddIMO there isn't really a compelling reason not to get jabbed but since we don't have to interact personally I respect your right to do whatever12:42
DreddIf you were someone I had to personally deal with then I'd be judging you more harshly 😀12:42
DreddI only indirectly know one person (via a friend) that has refused the vaccines12:43
sdfgsdfgsI know, and I have no personal interactions either, I live happily like a sage - working remotely12:43
Dreddha ha12:44
sdfgsdfgsin the world's longest locked down city12:44
sdfgsdfgsthat's getting out of it tonight.. hahaha12:44
DreddAh12:44
DreddUk Gov: We will go to plan-b if the NHS gets overwhelmed12:45
DreddNHS Confederation Chief Executive Matthew Taylor: said it was now "time for the government to enact Plan B of its strategy without delay because without preemptive action, we risk stumbling into a winter crisis. Also, health leaders need to understand what a ‘Plan C’ would entail if these measures are insufficient12:45
DreddUk Gov: No NHS, we will decided what the NHS is dealing with not you!12:46
Dredd> Prime Minister Boris Johnson and his ministers are relatively relaxed about the surge in case numbers12:46
DreddWhen was he ever not?12:46
BrainstormNew from COVID tweets: LeftistsUK🥂 (@LeftistsUk): @JustinALoe @fitterhappierAJ @EricTopol @AndrewNoymer @RolandBakerIII "After Covid there is an immune deficiency. It remains to be seen whether it will persist & whether it will make you more susceptible to other diseases. For me, like others, the study shows that [... want %more?] → https://twitter.com/LeftistsUk/status/145077925930435789213:12
de-facto[m]Boris needs something for blaming the problems UK is having, surely it can not be Brexit...13:33
BrainstormUpdates for Romania: +17158 cases (now 1.5 million), +423 deaths (now 43039), +73264 tests (now 14.1 million) since 23 hours ago — Latvia: +2599 cases (now 191321), +24 deaths (now 2944), +19377 tests (now 4.7 million) since a day ago — Indonesia: +914 cases (now 4.2 million), +28 deaths (now 143077), +227110 tests (now 44.1 million) since a day ago [... want %more?]13:36
sdfgsdfgswith his deep voice he sounds like a character from narnia13:49
de-facto.title https://www.nature.com/articles/s41392-021-00749-313:53
Brainstormde-facto: From www.nature.com: SARS-CoV-2 infection causes immunodeficiency in recovered patients by downregulating CD19 expression in B cells via enhancing B-cell metabolism | Signal Transduction and Targeted Therapy13:53
BrainstormNew from Virological.org: Latest posts: Missing G21987A mutation in SARS-CoV-2 delta variants due to non-specific amplification by ARTIC v3 primers: I have a couple of other quick questions; Which pipeline did you run the samples [... want %more?] → https://virological.org/t/missing-g21987a-mutation-in-sars-cov-2-delta-variants-due-to-non-specific-amplification-by-artic-v3-primers/764/313:53
BrainstormUpdates for Belarus: +2076 cases (now 577932), +17 deaths (now 4449), +55648 tests (now 9.2 million) since 23 hours ago — Zimbabwe: +32 cases (now 132437), +2969 tests (now 1.5 million) since a day ago14:01
BrainstormNew from Virological.org: Latest posts: Missing G21987A mutation in SARS-CoV-2 delta variants due to non-specific amplification by ARTIC v3 primers: To follow up @connortr ’s 1st point - we have seen genomes across the pandemic which [... want %more?] → https://virological.org/t/missing-g21987a-mutation-in-sars-cov-2-delta-variants-due-to-non-specific-amplification-by-artic-v3-primers/764/414:04
MerlinMp[m]<undefined_bob> "they think the gov is evil..." <-  people think gov is overreacting and adding unnecessary and unjustified restriction. For example in my country it was prohibited to go info forests and parks. It made conspiracy theory that you can get covid from trees. At the beginning it sounded ridiculous, but police treated it very seriously. Unless you know any research about forest infections?14:07
undefined_bobMerlinMp[m]: you are missing the whole point of that14:08
undefined_bobthat was more meant to stop people from gathering together, like building groups and so on14:09
undefined_boband for being able to controll that14:09
BrainstormNew from COVID tweets: Brian Hjelle, virologist (@hjelle_brian): Putin doing week long shutdowns for Russia COVID. He's a more benevolent and smart dictator than trump, Bolsonaro.🙄 → https://twitter.com/hjelle_brian/status/145079653889298432214:15
MerlinMp[m]<undefined_bob> "and for being able to controll..." <- You cannot protect someone walking alone with dog this way. If you try to control more than justified, you become unreliable and Im not surprised after such actions people dont trust governments and moreover dont trust doctors who supports unjustified actions and as a result they dont trust justified actions and recommendation14:26
undefined_bobMerlinMp[m]: you still dont get it.14:27
undefined_bobits not about the one walking alone with his dog. Its about the ppl who wanna meet in groups and so on. And to prevent and controll this its much easier to forbit everything/everyone.14:28
MerlinMp[m]So the outcome will be lack of trust - govs, doctors, scientists. This is easier not to trust anyone. You cannot prevent everything but you can lose a lot if ppl dont trust you14:31
MerlinMp[m]I do get your approach but I think its more poisoning than covid14:32
BrainstormNew from COVID tweets: Brian Hjelle, virologist (@hjelle_brian): The MOST likely superbug that will crush us with high infectiousness and lethality will be a flu or coronavirus, not a filovirus like Ebola or Marburg. → https://twitter.com/hjelle_brian/status/145080044188574515314:35
BrainstormUpdates for Bangladesh: +368 cases (now 1.6 million), +6 deaths (now 27791), +20393 tests (now 10.2 million) since a day ago14:38
undefined_bobMerlinMp[m]: I cant really understand how that can result in lack of trust. But I think thats due to a different point of view on the whole situation14:44
MerlinMp[m]The point of view depends on estimated probability of death or severa complications, If people estimates are low and cost of restrictions is high - there will be lack of trust. If theres no balance - issues will arise14:51
BrainstormNew from COVID tweets: Anthony J Leonardi, PhD, MS (@fitterhappierAJ): People who wrongfully say "Delta will end the pandemic," and "Novelty is the cause of severity" provide the pseudoscientific basis for 1) lobbying against mask use2) infecting the youth while it is a 'mild' disease (it will get worse with [... want %more?] → https://twitter.com/fitterhappierAJ/status/145080727287202611414:57
BrainstormUpdates for Switzerland: +1444 cases (now 859642), +5 deaths (now 11186), +24966 tests (now 11.4 million) since 13 hours ago — UAE: +112 cases (now 738924), +2 deaths (now 2124), +304976 tests (now 90.2 million) since 23 hours ago — Denmark: +2 deaths (now 2694), +61146 tests (now 84.9 million) since 22 hours ago15:03
BrainstormNew from COVID tweets: Marc Veldhoen (@Marc_Veld): The variation in the effective reproduction number explained by government interventions is 6 times greater than for mean temperature. Little evidence of meteorological conditions having influenced the early stages of local epidemics. → https://twitter.com/Marc_Veld/status/145080895186453708915:08
BrainstormNew from Virological.org: Latest posts: Missing G21987A mutation in SARS-CoV-2 delta variants due to non-specific amplification by ARTIC v3 primers: Thanks for this useful report. It is important when analysing amplicon data to try and [... want %more?] → https://virological.org/t/missing-g21987a-mutation-in-sars-cov-2-delta-variants-due-to-non-specific-amplification-by-artic-v3-primers/764/515:19
BrainstormNew from StatNews: Pharma: STAT+: Pharmalittle: Gates commits $120 million to speed generic versions of Merck Covid-19 pill; sales of Biogen Alzheimer’s drug bomb → https://www.statnews.com/pharmalot/2021/10/20/covid19-vaccine-gates-merck-jnj-who-biogen-alzheimers-opioids/?utm_campaign=rss15:30
BrainstormUpdates for Uganda: +81 cases (now 125364), +1 deaths (now 3188), +3320 tests (now 1.8 million) since 23 hours ago — Saudi Arabia: +47 cases (now 548065), +3 deaths (now 8770), +44317 tests (now 29.9 million) since 23 hours ago — Gibraltar: +23 cases (now 5803), +1032 tests (now 377494) since a day ago15:40
BrainstormNew from COVID tweets: Eric Topol (@EricTopol): Just published @Nature Single-cell analysis to pinpoint why people with prior Covid plus mRNA vaccine have the advantage of breadth and level of neutralizing antibodies over those without prior infection + 💉nature.com/articles/s4158… pic.twitter.com/gG4iCK3DnS → https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/145082651520621363216:13
BrainstormNew from COVID tweets: Eric Topol (@EricTopol): It's the variants, and particularly Delta now, that lead to this advantage. And the findings have implications for 3rd shots doe those without prior Covid for the same reason pic.twitter.com/F9zb8HAPrb → https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/145082899238731776116:24
BrainstormUpdates for Canada: +2456 cases (now 1.7 million), +40 deaths (now 28660) since 23 hours ago16:30
BrainstormNew from COVID tweets: Brian Hjelle, virologist (@hjelle_brian): Ms Milano is completely 100% right.google.com/amp/s/thehill.… → https://twitter.com/hjelle_brian/status/145083148861057025016:34
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Moscow orders unvaccinated over-60s to stay home for 4 months → https://old.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/qc273c/moscow_orders_unvaccinated_over60s_to_stay_home/16:45
lastshellwhen I took pfizer I just walk and light stretch17:00
lastshellsorry I was reading way back log from the top17:00
BrainstormNew from BMJ: Covid-19: UK needs more doctors to support post-pandemic recovery, say leaders: The UK must train more doctors to support the post-pandemic recovery of services, England’s national medical director has told MPs.Giving evidence to the Health and Social Care Committee on 19... → http://feeds.bmj.com/~r/bmj/recent/~3/pbQaQpds1oU/bmj.n2572.short17:07
BrainstormUpdates for India: +26152 cases (now 34.1 million), +270 deaths (now 452796) since 23 hours ago — Germany: +18060 cases (now 4.4 million), +108 deaths (now 95636) since 23 hours ago — Chile: +1228 cases (now 1.7 million), +80983 tests (now 22.9 million) since 22 hours ago — Zambia: +22 cases (now 209571), +4951 tests (now 2.6 million) since a day ago17:07
BrainstormNew from ClinicalTrials.gov: (news): Immunogenicity and Safety of COVID-19 Vaccine in People Living With HIV → https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT05085145?cond=Covid19&sfpd_d=2&sel_rss=new1417:18
BrainstormNew from ClinicalTrials.gov: (news): Cardiovascular Disease and Outcomes Among Patients With SARS-CoV-2 Infection (COVID-19) → https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT05085262?cond=Covid19&sfpd_d=2&sel_rss=new1417:28
BrainstormUpdates for Netherlands: +4594 cases (now 2.1 million), +11 deaths (now 18708) since 13 hours ago — Jordan: +1232 cases (now 846033), +8 deaths (now 10903), +24347 tests (now 10.6 million) since 21 hours ago — United Kingdom: +40119 cases (now 8.6 million) since 23 hours ago17:32
BrainstormNew from ClinicalTrials.gov: (news): Immunogenicity and Safety of COVID-19 Vaccine in People Living With HIV → https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT05085145?cond=Covid19&sfpd_d=2&sel_rss=new1417:56
BrainstormNew from ClinicalTrials.gov: (news): Cardiovascular Disease and Outcomes Among Patients With SARS-CoV-2 Infection (COVID-19) → https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT05085262?cond=Covid19&sfpd_d=2&sel_rss=new1418:07
BrainstormUpdates for Italy: +3699 cases (now 4.7 million), +33 deaths (now 131688), +485613 tests (now 99.1 million) since 23 hours ago — Luxembourg: +246 cases (now 80331), +2 deaths (now 842), +3286 tests (now 3.6 million) since a day ago18:10
BrainstormNew from COVID tweets: Brian Hjelle, virologist (@hjelle_brian): I wish as an experimental virologist, I had been able to do the experiment SARS2 is doing on all of us now, but on some distant planet of hostile aliens.Then again, that's kinda us too. → https://twitter.com/hjelle_brian/status/145085924656469606818:28
BrainstormUpdates for Greece: +3252 cases (now 704211), +38 deaths (now 15485), +204943 tests (now 23.9 million) since a day ago — Spain: +2528 cases (now 5.0 million), +31 deaths (now 87082) since 23 hours ago — Ireland: +2147 cases (now 421234), +63 deaths (now 5369), +48826 tests (now 7.9 million) since 22 hours ago18:35
BrainstormNew from COVID tweets: Eric Topol (@EricTopol): We have a spike-centric attack towards #SARSCoV2 (which is only 13% of the virus) and we can learn from serial 🦠sequencing of immunocompromised people w/ Covid about non-spike mutations, how this virus will likely further evolvescience.org/content/articl… [... want %more?] → https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/145086214627167027518:38
BrainstormNew from The Indian Express: World: Naval facility in Maryland on lockdown over bomb threat → https://indianexpress.com/article/world/naval-facility-in-maryland-on-lockdown-over-bomb-threat-7582242/19:00
BrainstormNew from COVID tweets: Brian Hjelle, virologist (@hjelle_brian): SARS2 is still mutating. We all understand that. But consequential mutations, variants appear to elude it for now in face of super-successful delta. → https://twitter.com/hjelle_brian/status/145087037865860300919:11
BrainstormNew from COVID tweets: Brian Hjelle, virologist (@hjelle_brian): No one knows exactly what "sequence space" SARS2 has with which to work, to improve infectivity and immune resistance.That means we in science are as blind as public in understanding future.BUT we can use empirical experience to say virus is [... want %more?] → https://twitter.com/hjelle_brian/status/145087207682744729919:22
BrainstormUpdates for Canada: +2375 cases (now 1.7 million), +38 deaths (now 28662) since 23 hours ago19:30
BrainstormNew from The Indian Express: World: US readies plan to vaccinate kids ages 5-11 against Covid-19 → https://indianexpress.com/article/world/us-readies-plan-to-vaccinate-kids-ages-5-11-against-covid-19-7582366/19:32
BrainstormNew from COVID tweets: Brian Hjelle, virologist (@hjelle_brian): We are at what should be a happy point, in that delta may be waning. But UK's experience is that you can find a way to drag it out indefinitely. We have tracked UK far too much in the pandemic.#Freedumb → https://twitter.com/hjelle_brian/status/145088194758085836819:54
de-facto.title https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.10.05.21264567v119:56
Brainstormde-facto: From www.medrxiv.org: Efficacy and Safety of NVX-CoV2373 in Adults in the United States and Mexico | medRxiv19:56
de-facto.title https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa210765919:56
Brainstormde-facto: From www.nejm.org: Safety and Efficacy of NVX-CoV2373 Covid-19 Vaccine | NEJM19:56
de-facto.title https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa210305519:56
Brainstormde-facto: From www.nejm.org: Efficacy of NVX-CoV2373 Covid-19 Vaccine against the B.1.351 Variant | NEJM19:56
BrainstormNew from COVID tweets: Eric Topol (@EricTopol): The Delta variant in Vermont, where 71% of the population is fully vaccinated (highest in the US)In July, VT got down to 1 patient hospitalized, now 55and < 5 cases per day, now >200newsnodes.com/us_state/VTIndicative of how formidable it is to prevail over this [... want %more?] → https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/145088386808967168120:04
BrainstormNew from COVID tweets: Thomas House (@TAH_Sci): The main risk over the next few months isn't that the epidemic gets "out of control" like it did a year ago, but rather that the total volume of illness, together with resurgent endemic infections, fatigue, backlog of work, additional demand from other pandemic harms etc. (1/2) → https://twitter.com/TAH_Sci/status/145088425024122060920:15
BrainstormNew from COVID tweets: Tom Wenseleers (@TWenseleers): Moderna won't share its vaccine recipe. WHO has hired an African startup to crack it npr.org/sections/goats… → https://twitter.com/TWenseleers/status/145088907635426100020:25
BrainstormUpdates for Germany: +16801 cases (now 4.4 million), +96 deaths (now 95643) since 23 hours ago20:39
BrainstormNew from COVID tweets: Eric Topol (@EricTopol): OTOH, nearby Connecticut, with 70% fully vaccinated, has had no recent increase in hospitalizations, little increase in cases. Pandemic case/capita for both states shows a much higher prior infection rate in CT which may be playing a role pic.twitter.com/yvoZMkV4Ez → https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/145089300618624614520:46
BrainstormUpdates for India: +18345 cases (now 34.1 million), +160 deaths (now 452844) since 22 hours ago — Dominican Rep.: +963 cases (now 373040), +5091 tests (now 2.2 million) since a day ago — Maldives: +95 cases (now 86419), +3832 tests (now 1.6 million) since 21 hours ago — Qatar: +86 cases (now 238165), +5406 tests (now 2.8 million) since a day ago21:04
BrainstormNew from r/Science: science: COVID-19 reinfection is likely among unvaccinated individuals, Yale study finds → https://old.reddit.com/r/science/comments/qc89hw/covid19_reinfection_is_likely_among_unvaccinated/21:17
BrainstormUpdates for Singapore: +3862 cases (now 158587), +18 deaths (now 264) since a day ago — Burkina Faso: +34 cases (now 14793), +5 deaths (now 214), +594 tests (now 222837) since a day ago — Curacao: +17 cases (now 16972), +1831 tests (now 298940) since 18 hours ago21:29
BrainstormNew from r/Science: science: Researchers design antibodies that destroy old cells, slowing down aging → https://old.reddit.com/r/science/comments/qc8g2c/researchers_design_antibodies_that_destroy_old/21:38
BrainstormUpdates for Kuwait: +21 cases (now 412424), +17539 tests (now 4.6 million) since 22 hours ago22:06
BrainstormNew from COVID tweets: Eric Topol (@EricTopol): The current UK Covid metrics, while increasing and causing concern, are rising at a much slower rate than previously ft.com/content/3bff0c… @FT by @mroliverbarnes and                @Laura_K_Hughes pic.twitter.com/MOUiqVvVez → https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/145091621419301683622:10
BrainstormNew from COVID tweets: Tom Wenseleers (@TWenseleers): While parts of Europe are seeing rising cases again, Cuba got on top of its Delta wave, among others by vaccinating 99.3% of their vaccinable population with at least one dose (including children). Quite a feat, and using their own Soberana 02 & Soberana Plus [... want %more?] → https://twitter.com/TWenseleers/status/145091736490053632622:21
BrainstormUpdates for Netherlands: +4611 cases (now 2.1 million) since 18 hours ago22:31
BrainstormNew from COVID tweets: Prof Francois Balloux (@BallouxFrancois): 😬Covid-19’s rebel scientists: has iSAGE been a success? bmj.com/content/375/bm… → https://twitter.com/BallouxFrancois/status/145092036078703002322:31
BrainstormNew from COVID tweets: Brian Hjelle, virologist (@hjelle_brian): By the time you're making nice antibodies to delta, virus has moved on. You're already history. → https://twitter.com/hjelle_brian/status/145092426489950617822:42
BrainstormNew from COVID tweets: Brian Hjelle, virologist (@hjelle_brian): There are some extremely scary viruses out there in the world that kill you before you can even make antibodies.Fortunately they're not as transmissible as SARS2. → https://twitter.com/hjelle_brian/status/145092619271487078422:52
BrainstormUpdates for Germany: +18687 cases (now 4.4 million), +80 deaths (now 95668) since 23 hours ago23:08
BrainstormNew from COVID tweets: Eric Topol (@EricTopol): The remarkably high effectiveness (VE) of vaccination for teens vs the Delta variant in over 94,000 vaccinees and 94,000 matched controls: 93% VE vs symptomatic infection (95% CI 88,97)  nejm.org/doi/full/10.10…@NEJM pic.twitter.com/8m3fJ7avc5 → https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/145093137647203123223:13
BrainstormNew from COVID tweets: Eric Topol (@EricTopol): In a July prison outbreak of the Delta variant, the Moderna vaccine had an 84% vaccine effectiveness vs symptomatic infection, which is noteworthy in this high-risk setting nejm.org/doi/full/10.10… @NEJM by @elizabethTchin @StanfordMed and colleagues pic.twitter.com/55WpM3Qrg8 → https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/145093447828147404823:24
BrainstormNew from COVID tweets: Michael Lin, PhD-MD 🧬 (@michaelzlin): And it's true! Everyone is now freed from their past vaccine history, which most of us didn't choose.🔔🥳Thank you @US_FDAcnn.com/2021/10/20/hea… → https://twitter.com/michaelzlin/status/145093597204507852923:34
BrainstormNew from COVID tweets: Eric Topol (@EricTopol): Pregnancy is a very high risk for Covid. > 125,000 US cases, >161 deaths, and on the increase w/ Delta. *Only 31% of pregnant women are vaccinated*washingtonpost.com/national/covid… @AP New data @NEJM provides assurance of lack of miscarriage risk for vaccination [... want %more?] → https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/145094026554017792123:45

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