libera/##covid-19/ Thursday, 2021-10-21

BrainstormUpdates for Bahrain: +74 cases (now 276336), +15579 tests (now 6.7 million) since a day ago — India: +17686 cases (now 34.1 million) since 16 hours ago00:10
BrainstormNew from COVID tweets: Brian Hjelle, virologist (@hjelle_brian): This arenavirus is hosted by the vesper mouse, Calomys callosus, in which it is at most modestly offensive. But in humans it causes hemorrhagic fever. Patients succumb to virosepsis, multi-organ failure. USAMRIID developed a vaccine that Argentina [... want %more?] → https://twitter.com/hjelle_brian/status/145094775170173747500:21
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Israeli research shows 50-fold jump in antibodies after third shot → https://old.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/qccgio/israeli_research_shows_50fold_jump_in_antibodies/00:32
BrainstormUpdates for Bulgaria: +4522 cases (now 555077), +107 deaths (now 22719), +25037 tests (now 5.2 million) since a day ago — Rwanda: +39 cases (now 99252), +13576 tests (now 3.0 million) since a day ago00:35
BrainstormNew from Johnson&Johnson: Johnson & Johnson COVID-19 Vaccine Booster Shot Authorized for Emergency Use by U.S. FDA: Booster shot authorized for adults aged 18 and older at least two months following primary vaccination with single-shot Johnson & Johnson COVID-19 [... want %more?] → https://www.jnj.com/johnson-johnson-covid-19-vaccine-booster-shot-authorized-for-emergency-use-by-u-s-fda00:42
-RSSBot[LjLmatrix- Zotero / COVID links Group / Top-Level Items: Johnson & Johnson COVID-19 Vaccine Booster Shot Authorized for Emergency Use by U.S. FDA | Johnson & Johnson ( https://www.zotero.org/groups/covid_links/items/BP6KPADZ )00:55
BrainstormUpdates for Argentina: +1218 cases (now 5.3 million), +33 deaths (now 115770), +50291 tests (now 24.6 million) since 23 hours ago01:00
BrainstormNew from BBC Health: Covid: WHO warns pandemic will drag on into 2022: It says slow vaccine supply to poorer countries means the pandemic will last longer than it needs to. → https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-58973697?at_medium=RSS&at_campaign=KARANGA01:13
LjLsomeone at the WHO was thinking it would end before 2022 before somehow?01:27
LjLthey always strike as so up to date01:28
BrainstormNew from COVID tweets: Eric Topol (@EricTopol): My conversation with @vausecnn @CNN on the UK Covid situation and the AY.4.2 variant (aka "Delta plus") youtube.com/watch?v=XbtoH4… → https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/145096871973626265701:42
de-facto"Delta+" in UK refers to recently seen AY.4.2 with mutations Y145H & A222V https://www.bbc.com/news/health-5896565001:47
LjLwhat does "AY" even mean anyway? to me it means "it's a sub-Delta thing" but why01:49
LjLoutbreak.info seems to have no sequences for it :(01:50
BrainstormNew from COVID tweets: Michael Lin, PhD-MD 🧬 (@michaelzlin): But regardless things seem to fall off a cliff pretty quickly after 5mo; this sigmoidal effect was already seen for the RNA vaccines as discussed in this threadtwitter.com/michaelzlin/st… → https://twitter.com/michaelzlin/status/145097104506677657901:53
LjLthat's great01:53
LjLi'm getting real tired of people01:57
LjL%title https://twitter.com/fitterhappierAJ/status/145080727287202611401:57
BrainstormLjL: From twitter.com: Anthony J Leonardi, PhD, MS (@fitterhappierAJ): "People who wrongfully say "Delta will end the pandemic," and "Novelty is the cause of severity" provide the pseudoscientific basis for 1) lobbying against mask use 2) infecting the youth while it is a 'mild' disease (it will get worse with time, I promise you) They're complicit" | nitter01:57
LjL"they're complicit"01:57
LjLthey have an opinion, that opinion MAY make other people draw their own influence, or not01:57
LjLSO THEY ARE COMPLICIT, GET OUT THE PITCHFORKS!01:57
LjLffs01:57
de-facto.title https://www.clinicalmicrobiologyandinfection.com/article/S1198-743X(21)00422-5/fulltext02:01
Brainstormde-facto: From www.clinicalmicrobiologyandinfection.com: Rate and severity of suspected SARS-Cov-2 reinfection in a cohort of PCR-positive COVID-19 patients - Clinical Microbiology and Infection02:01
BrainstormUpdates for Uruguay: +164 cases (now 391522), +10109 tests (now 3.7 million) since a day ago — Paraguay: +33 cases (now 460615), +1912 tests (now 1.9 million) since a day ago02:02
de-facto"In an adjusted Cox proportional hazards model, being female (hazard ratio (HR) 1.44, CI 1.14–1.81), adult (age 18–39, HR 2.71, CI 1.38–5.31, age 40–59 HR 2.22, CI 1.12–4.41, age ≥60 HR 2.52, CI 1.23–5.17 versus <18 years), immunocompromised (HR 2.48, CI 1.31–4.68), hospitalized (HR 1.60, CI 1.07–2.38), and initially infected later in 2020 (HR 2.26, CI 1.38–3.71 September–October versus March–May) were significant independent02:03
de-factopredictors of suspected reinfection."02:03
LjL%title https://www.clinicalmicrobiologyandinfection.com/article/S1198-743X(21)00422-5/fulltext02:04
BrainstormLjL: From www.clinicalmicrobiologyandinfection.com: Home Page: Clinical Microbiology and Infection02:04
LjL%title https://www.clinicalmicrobiologyandinfection.com/article/S1198-743X(21)00422-5/fulltext02:08
BrainstormLjL: From www.clinicalmicrobiologyandinfection.com: Rate and severity of suspected SARS-Cov-2 reinfection in a cohort of PCR-positive COVID-19 patients - Clinical Microbiology and Infection02:08
LjL%title https://www.google.com02:08
BrainstormLjL: From www.google.com: Google02:08
LjL%title https://www.google.com02:12
BrainstormLjL: From www.google.com: Google02:12
BrainstormNew from r/Science: science: FDA OKs mixing COVID vaccines; backs Moderna, J&J boosters → https://old.reddit.com/r/science/comments/qceb3s/fda_oks_mixing_covid_vaccines_backs_moderna_jj/02:14
LjLi like it how the url is practically longer than the headline02:16
LjLi look forward to this longurl future02:16
ublxwhy not have it omit the url in the response?02:27
ublxquoting the nick being replied to would seem to provide all the visual context the eye can benefit from02:29
BrainstormUpdates for Guadeloupe: +198 cases (now 54350), +9991 tests (now 495286) since 18 hours ago — Ivory Coast: +24 cases (now 61113), +4 deaths (now 689), +10898 tests (now 1.1 million) since a day ago — Netherlands: +4642 cases (now 2.1 million) since 22 hours ago02:29
LjLublx, it doesn't have the url in the response, it only has the domain in the response02:48
ublxwhy not omi..02:49
* ublx runs02:49
LjLbecause together with the bold it makes it a lot clearer what is going on and what the bot is on about, especially considering there's no guarantee the bot's response will come right after the request, with nothing else in between02:52
ublxhmm my client strips out the bold02:55
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: the Covid crisis could "easily drag on deep into 2022". → https://old.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/qcf5sq/the_covid_crisis_could_easily_drag_on_deep_into/02:55
BrainstormNew from COVID tweets: Michael Lin, PhD-MD 🧬 (@michaelzlin): Note it's a log scale so that's why the 400 line is where it is. Also I removed the Moderna 100mcg series (below) from the above graph because that won't be used for boosters. Just note it gives titres around 10³ = 1000, so Moderna 50mcg effects will [... want %more?] → https://twitter.com/michaelzlin/status/145099087847078708403:05
BrainstormUpdates for Gabon: +439 cases (now 34281), +1 deaths (now 219), +9384 tests (now 1.3 million) since a day ago — Barbados: +381 cases (now 13934), +3 deaths (now 123), +2331 tests (now 364535) since a day ago03:07
BrainstormNew from COVID tweets: Michael Lin, PhD-MD 🧬 (@michaelzlin): So if you're J&J or Pfizer, only Pfizer booster (or Moderna50 by extension) will get you to 400 (below image). Moderna50 might be better because we expect a slight drop between 15 and 29 days (above image).If you're Moderna, any booster will get you [... want %more?] → https://twitter.com/michaelzlin/status/145099296712513536203:16
BrainstormNew from COVID tweets: Michael Lin, PhD-MD 🧬 (@michaelzlin): But if immunocompromised or otherwise higher risk, then Moderna+Moderna50 might be better. But if healthy, low-risk, and not too concerned about getting a mild breakthrough in the short term, then Moderna+J&J may lead to slightly better long-term immunity → https://twitter.com/michaelzlin/status/145099552570929562003:27
de-factoif a new VoC occurs i would guess it would appear in UK, they have high incidence and high vaccination prevalence, optimal breeding ground unfortunately03:29
de-factoalso they got the best genomic surveillance worldwide03:29
de-factoso they probably will find it directly, but they wont do anything about its spread03:29
BrainstormUpdates for Panama: +257 cases (now 470855), +3 deaths (now 7300), +9177 tests (now 4.0 million) since 20 hours ago — St. Vin. and Gren.: +92 cases (now 4729), +2 deaths (now 56), +382 tests (now 84381) since 23 hours ago — United Kingdom: +48653 cases (now 8.6 million) since 23 hours ago03:31
de-factoand since its going to be an offspring from what circulates there, it will be emerging from one of the sub-lineages of Delta03:34
sdfgsdfgsdestination f***ed03:34
LjLi seem to notice at a glance (i don't like to do divisions :P) Italy still has a much higher death rate compared to the much lower case rate it has than the UK http://offloop.net/covid19/?default=United%20Kingdom;Italy&byPopulation=yes&cumulative=no&smooth=yes03:35
LjLso maybe one thing is that the UK is testing much more effectively than Italy and maybe other EU countries...?03:35
LjLsure, they also do have more cases, the deaths *are* more after all. but in comparison...03:35
LjLour testing this day is overwhelmingly rapid testing. not so much PCR03:36
sdfgsdfgsheadline: "UK cases could hit 100000 a day"03:36
BrainstormNew from COVID tweets: Michael Lin, PhD-MD 🧬 (@michaelzlin): But memory B cells, the ones stimulated by boosters, live long, so 6mo boosters are likely to give similar results as 3mo boosters. And Israeli data on Pfizer vax + Pfizer boost at 6mo show the return of strong protection against Delta, so there is [... want %more?] → https://twitter.com/michaelzlin/status/145099806080947404903:37
sdfgsdfgsnow we decide on what's good by observing the statistics on rate of death, that's next level science03:44
LjLuh i think we've kind of done that for a while03:49
LjLcase counts are notoriously unreliable03:49
de-factoincidence rate of deaths, e.g. how many fatal COVID outcomes per 100k citizens per day are the real metric03:51
de-factobut incidence goes before those, hence is the faster metric (yet depending on testing only can make sense relative its direct past, in same country, under same conditions)03:52
de-factohence derived from incidence the reproduction number is the most important (and most up-to-date) metric imho03:52
de-factothe reproduction number shows exactly what is going on (given testing conditions dont change too much): R<1 means its under control, R~1 means its transitioning (or oscillating, e.g. restrictions necessary, taken back, necessary, ...) and finally R>1 means its completely out of control in exponential rise03:54
de-factounfortunately right now most EU countries will transition from R<1 to R>1 due to taking back restrictions while transition to winter seasonality03:55
de-factoat the end we wont know how much contribution taking back restrictions had because we wont be able to separate that from the change in behavior and transmission by seasonality03:55
de-factoin fact we would need *more* containment not less to compensate for the seasonal effect that we know only too well from all respiratory diseases (not only COVID from last winter)03:56
de-factobut oh well...03:56
de-factoits going to be the same play every year now03:58
de-factobecause unfortunately it seems noone is willing to learn from any mistakes, its still that we hope for the best and take away the containment measures we know that are working03:58
de-factoso maybe if it repeats a few more years people will begin to see a pattern and realize they repeat their mistakes03:59
de-factounfortunately it will become more aggressive every year04:00
de-factoi have not heard from any variant that was less aggressive but still dominated its predecessor04:01
de-factoA/B lineage < D614G < Alpha < Delta < ???04:02
de-factothere were some more evasive and less aggressive variants but it seems since Delta they vanished04:04
de-factoso will Delta when its going ot be dominated by its successor04:04
de-factomaybe it will split, a VoC that got a fitness advantage the monoculture immunity induced by the Wuhan-Hu-1 signature in current gen vaccines, and (few?) other ones in countries with very low vaccination rates such as Africa04:07
BrainstormUpdates for South Korea: +1441 cases (now 347529), +11 deaths (now 2709), +47275 tests (now 15.4 million) since 23 hours ago — Bolivia: +483 cases (now 508166), +4 deaths (now 18887), +6072 tests (now 2.5 million) since 2 hours ago — New Zealand: +102 cases (now 5315), +26669 tests (now 3.8 million) since 23 hours ago04:09
de-factoidk what they are doing, where are our Delta updated vaccines?04:10
de-factowill they ever reach the market?04:10
de-factoDelta was declared VoC by WHO at 11-May-202104:14
BrainstormNew from COVID tweets: Eric Topol (@EricTopol): Today's report from Israel follows similar very high vaccine effectiveness for teens in the US @CDCMMWR twitter.com/EricTopol/stat…Graph @NEJM 👇The case for vaccination in teens to avoid symptomatic infections, potential of #LongCovid, and transmission could not [... want %more?] → https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/145100839546975437404:20
BrainstormUpdates for Netherlands: +4633 cases (now 2.1 million), +11 deaths (now 18709) since 23 hours ago04:34
BrainstormNew from The Indian Express: World: FDA OKs mixing Covid-19 vaccines; backs Moderna, J&J boosters → https://indianexpress.com/article/world/fda-oks-mixing-covid-vaccines-backs-moderna-jj-boosters-7582641/05:12
BrainstormNew from COVID tweets: Eric Topol (@EricTopol): @AP @NEJM @StatehouseKim More on the risk of covid with pregnancy (currently ~20% of UK ICU patients) and 90% effectiveness of vaccination vs severe illnesstwitter.com/EricTopol/stat… → https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/145102293144680857705:22
sdfgsdfgsoh so the unvaccinated are to blame again ?05:24
sdfgsdfgsgood, they're ramping up the vaccination and boosters... I guess the wave in UK will end soon and we will forgot this whole thing. No need to worry too much05:25
sdfgsdfgsforget*05:25
BrainstormNew from The Indian Express: World: Facing a record Covid-19 toll, Russia will close workplaces for a week → https://indianexpress.com/article/world/facing-a-record-covid-19-toll-russia-will-close-workplaces-for-a-week-7582671/05:33
BrainstormUpdates for Belgium: +6552 cases (now 1.3 million), +19 deaths (now 25816) since a day ago05:36
BrainstormNew from COVID tweets: Eric Topol (@EricTopol): Delta in New ZealandA pandemic record 102 community cases todayThat is the number of new cases each second in the US currentlyhealth.govt.nz/news-media/med…health.govt.nz/our-work/disea… pic.twitter.com/Ub8asK0gHT → https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/145103048123594342405:43
de-factono everyone that got infected is to blame for breeding because a carrier probably will only become aware of the infection after being infectious to others for a few days, hence to be blamed for breeding and continuing the infection chain with the result of the breeding selected for more fitness under the circumstances that this carrier offered to the pathogen05:48
de-factoand since delta the virus replicates so fast that the immune system probably was not even able to produce specific antibodies against the ongoing infection until the carrier already infected another one, hence the selection will be for evasion to anibodies raised against a previous variant or vaccination05:53
de-factohmm well ok, before it also did continue the infection chain prior to antibodies occurring in the carrier, but with delta the serial time was shortened, and now the first time selection by pre-existing antibodies takes place in the hosts06:04
de-factoi think in the future people will ask why we did not put more efforts into containing SARS-CoV-2 when it still consisted of more or less similar variants so it was relatively easy to contain it06:20
de-factoit probably will evolve into a hydra of many variants: become immune against one variant, will give raise to another few variants that can break through that immunity, a seasonal endemic SARS will make people wish for pre-pandemic times where we did not have to constantly deal with such a nasty pathogen06:25
de-factowe can already see that pattern emerging, and variants become *more* aggressive over time, breakthrough infections may also become *more* severe (as some recent papers were discussing)06:26
de-factothose that advertised for an endemic COVID will regret to ever have spoken publicly about such an insane goal06:27
de-factomaybe after a few years people will understand that ZERO-Covid (like China does it) is the only sane way to deal with this problem06:28
de-factothis always was my opinion and i see more and more reasons to assume this is the only sane strategy06:29
de-factoi know its not seen as realistic option anymore, most countries gave up right from begin on and did not even *try* an eradication strategy (despite other countries demonstrating it was possible), hence their wish for making it endemic will become the bitter reality06:31
BrainstormUpdates for Germany: +18800 cases (now 4.4 million) since 20 hours ago06:38
de-factoyay Germany, rising case numbers despite removing free tests for all06:40
de-factoR ~ 1.1 > 1 out of control already, shall we open more transmission scenarios?06:42
de-factook have to go to bed in order not to start ranting, expect the worst hope for the best06:42
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: India achieves the landmark one billion COVID19 vaccinations mark → https://old.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/qcjilt/india_achieves_the_landmark_one_billion_covid19/06:46
BrainstormUpdates for Peru: +1034 cases (now 2.2 million), +17 deaths (now 199945), +45798 tests (now 18.6 million) since a day ago07:03
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: India Achieves Historic Milestone of 1 Billion Vaccines → https://old.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/qcjsia/india_achieves_historic_milestone_of_1_billion/07:06
BrainstormNew from BBC Health: NHS in Wales under highest pressure ever, says chief exec: Dr Andrew Goodall says Covid, waiting lists and staff shortages have left NHS Wales under pressure. → https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-5898123007:27
BrainstormUpdates for Oklahoma, United States: +895 cases (now 636760), +1138 deaths (now 10540) since a day ago — India: +4530 cases (now 34.1 million), +1312328 tests (now 595.7 million) since 14 hours ago — W.P. Labuan, Malaysia: +12 cases (now 10016) since a day ago — Lombardy, Italy: +457 cases (now 889778), +4 deaths (now 34130) since a day ago07:40
mambang[m]%cases Malaysia07:41
Brainstormmambang[m]: Malaysia has had 2.4 million confirmed cases (7.4% of all people) and 28138 deaths (1.2% of cases) as of 12 hours ago. 32.9 million tests were done (7.3% positive). 25.3 million were vaccinated (77.2%). See https://covidnow.moh.gov.my/07:41
jacklswmambang[m]: you are in malaysia?07:43
mambang[m]yeap07:43
jacklswme too07:43
jacklswnth much can be done with covid now07:44
jacklswcontinue vaccinating and maybe add 3rd booster shot07:44
mambang[m]mantap jacklsw07:44
jacklswhaha07:44
jacklswsama sama07:44
mambang[m]can be done.. just no stupid policies thing07:44
mambang[m]now it just a politician play toys..07:45
mambang[m]look at testing rate, getting lower.. that why positive cases are lower07:45
BrainstormNew from COVID tweets: Tom Wenseleers (@TWenseleers): Op maandag in België 130 nieuwe hospitalisaties & 6466 bevestigde gevallen. R waarde obv hospitalisaties & cases nu op 1.29 [1.20-1.39] & 1.48 [1.47-1.50]. Nog niet gevaccineerd? Nu zou een goed moment zijn je spuit te gaan halen! twitter.com/TWenseleers/st… [... want %more?] → https://twitter.com/TWenseleers/status/145106130588505292907:47
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: India crosses 1 billion Covid vaccination mark, govt hails 'vaccine century' → https://old.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/qcl67l/india_crosses_1_billion_covid_vaccination_mark/08:29
BrainstormNew from Politico: Time to demand sustainability within EU public finances: As public consultation reopens, EU fiscal framework updates begin with two main policy recommendations:  a transitionary Recovery Compact; and a shift from sustainability of public finance to [... want %more?] → https://www.politico.eu/sponsored-content/time-to-demand-sustainability-within-eu-public-finances/08:40
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Daily Discussion Thread | October 21, 2021: Please refer to our Wiki for more information on COVID-19 and our sub. You can find answers to frequently asked questions in our FAQ , where there is valuable information such as our: → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/qclw9f/daily_discussion_thread_october_21_2021/09:01
BrainstormNew from BBC Health: Covid: Doctors call for Covid Plan B to start in England: A doctors' union says ministers must reimpose measures such as compulsory face masks as cases rise. → https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-5899065809:21
BrainstormUpdates for Georgia: +4411 cases (now 680182), +29 deaths (now 9617), +53700 tests (now 9.8 million) since 23 hours ago — Armenia: +2603 cases (now 288906), +32 deaths (now 5902), +14928 tests (now 1.9 million) since 23 hours ago09:32
BrainstormNew from BBC Health: Covid: WHO warns pandemic will drag on deep into 2022: Slow vaccine supply to poorer nations means the crisis will last longer than it needs to, experts say. → https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-5897369710:05
BrainstormUpdates for Lithuania: +3349 cases (now 379438), +33 deaths (now 5544), +25537 tests (now 5.4 million) since a day ago — Hungary: +2361 cases (now 841277), +20 deaths (now 30468), +19494 tests (now 7.2 million) since a day ago10:10
BrainstormNew from BBC Health: Covid: When will I get a booster jab?: About 3.7 million people in England have had a booster dose of Covid vaccine. → https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-5504563910:25
BrainstormUpdates for Estonia: +1505 cases (now 177287), +8801 tests (now 2.1 million) since a day ago — Germany: +8627 cases (now 4.4 million) since 17 hours ago10:35
BrainstormNew from StatNews: Health: Half doses, third doses, kids’ doses: Covid vaccine delivery goes next-level difficult → https://www.statnews.com/2021/10/21/half-doses-third-doses-kids-doses-covid-vaccine-delivery-goes-next-level-difficult/10:36
BrainstormNew from Politico: Why American cities will never be the same again after COVID: Some Americans fled from cities during the pandemic, some went the opposite way. Will cities start competing for footloose workers instead of factories and sports teams? → https://www.politico.com/news/2021/10/21/covid-americans-cities-remote-work-51599810:57
SpearRavenhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTtzGhYd0Po11:02
SpearRavengood video from Russell Brand11:03
DreddWhat's his view on stuff?11:04
BrainstormNew from Politico: Coronavirus: Belgium’s fourth coronavirus wave has started, says health minister → https://www.politico.eu/article/belgium-entering-fourth-wave-of-coronavirus-warns-health-minister/11:08
SpearRavenjust watch that one and you'll see11:09
SpearRavenhe's a human11:09
SpearRavennot a money-maniac billionaire11:09
sKepcoming to this channel is like i am back in hard covid times11:10
undefined_bob"In 2021, Brand shared information on how to avoid COVID-19 safety measures for people attending his tour. In October 2021, YouTube began reviewing some of Brand's videos to see if they violated the sites' COVID-19 vaccine policies."11:10
sKepIndians are loosers they have forgotten this virus11:10
undefined_bobthat guy does not belong in a scientific/news channel. He belongs to telegram...11:11
sKepi beileve this virus not again a challenge for humanity11:11
undefined_bobit still is, sKep11:12
sKep%] bad english is identify my brain11:13
sKepbut writing can't11:14
sKepnever mind11:14
sKepbeieleve it or not Indians think that virus can not hit again11:15
sKepvaccine is power to them11:16
sKepbut I am sceptic11:16
sKepthis virus can run more then we think11:16
undefined_bob of course it can and most probably will in future11:24
BrainstormUpdates for Russia: +36339 cases (now 8.1 million), +1036 deaths (now 227389), +577413 vaccines (now 52.0 million) since a day ago — Poland: +5591 cases (now 3.0 million), +46 deaths (now 76300), +14835 vaccines (now 20.1 million), +100735 tests (now 21.7 million) since 23 hours ago [... want %more?]11:37
sKepback11:47
sKepnice channel btwv11:48
undefined_bobwb sKep11:51
leerbi%cases Switzerland11:53
Brainstormleerbi: Switzerland has had 859646 confirmed cases (10.0% of all people) and 11186 deaths (1.3% of cases) as of 20 hours ago. 11.4 million tests were done (7.5% positive). 5.7 million were vaccinated (65.8%). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=Switzerland11:53
Brainstormleerbi: If you know of an official or otherwise good site for data about Switzerland, with a reasonably short URL, please %tell LjL about it.11:53
leerbi%cases Russia11:54
Brainstormleerbi: Russia has had 8.1 million confirmed cases (5.5% of all people) and 227389 deaths (2.8% of cases) as of 17 minutes ago. 202.1 million tests were done (4.0% positive). 52.0 million were vaccinated (35.4%). +36339 cases, +1036 deaths, +577413 vaccines since a day ago. See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=Russia11:54
Brainstormleerbi: If you know of an official or otherwise good site for data about Russia, with a reasonably short URL, please %tell LjL about it.11:54
sKep%cases India11:54
BrainstormsKep: India has had 34.1 million confirmed cases (2.5% of all people) and 452844 deaths (1.3% of cases) as of 4 hours ago. 595.7 million tests were done (5.7% positive). 705.8 million were vaccinated (51.9%). +4530 cases, +1312328 tests since 14 hours ago. See https://www.mygov.in/covid-19 or https://www.covid19india.org/11:54
sKepbad news for Russia :/11:55
BrainstormUpdates for Finland: +608 cases (now 152707), +11037 tests (now 7.4 million) since 23 hours ago12:02
undefined_bobmany people think that russian official numbers are not correct and that there are way more death related to covid there12:02
undefined_bobbut most russian ppl also act like nothing ever happen12:02
undefined_bob*happened12:02
leerbitrue. just check out periscope and public cameras. its terrible12:11
BrainstormNew from Reddit (test): Covid2019: Covid-19: Valneva’s vaccine produces stronger immune response than AstraZeneca’s, company reports → https://old.reddit.com/r/Covid2019/comments/qcogvy/covid19_valnevas_vaccine_produces_stronger_immune/12:12
BrainstormNew from Reddit (test): Numeri: submitted by /u/TomfooleryPranks to r/CoronaVirus_ITALIA → https://old.reddit.com/r/CoronaVirus_ITALIA/comments/qcoufr/numeri/12:43
BrainstormNew from BioNTech: Pfizer and BioNTech Announce Phase 3 Trial Data Showing High Efficacy of a Booster Dose of Their COVID-19 Vaccine: First results from any randomized, controlled COVID-19 vaccine booster trial demonstrate a relative vaccine [... want %more?] → https://investors.biontech.de/news-releases/news-release-details/pfizer-and-biontech-announce-phase-3-trial-data-showing-high12:53
sKep%cases russia12:56
BrainstormsKep: Russia has had 8.1 million confirmed cases (5.5% of all people) and 227389 deaths (2.8% of cases) as of an hour ago. 202.1 million tests were done (4.0% positive). 52.0 million were vaccinated (35.4%). +36339 cases, +1036 deaths, +577413 vaccines since a day ago. See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=Russia12:56
BrainstormsKep: If you know of an official or otherwise good site for data about Russia, with a reasonably short URL, please %tell LjL about it.12:56
sdfgsdfgsit doesn't look so bad for the rest of the world though12:57
sdfgsdfgsexcept for germany uk and russia O_o mein germenz are also getting sick :/12:58
sdfgsdfgsin the last days they leaped from a few thousand cases to 22k. Ganz verrückt13:01
sdfgsdfgsdoesn't matter at what stage we are with Covid.. It's always exciting :Ddd13:05
BrainstormNew from COVID tweets: Michael Lin, PhD-MD 🧬 (@michaelzlin): And more clinical correlation, from a randomized trial! Impressed Pfizer did a RCT with disease readout instead of just serology, or just letting Israel MOH do an epi study. Even more amazing: booster reduced cases by 96% compared to *vaxxed but [... want %more?] → https://twitter.com/michaelzlin/status/145114397799908966613:14
BrainstormUpdates for Latvia: +2935 cases (now 194256), +23 deaths (now 2967), +24642 tests (now 4.7 million) since 23 hours ago — Switzerland: +1481 cases (now 861123) since 22 hours ago — Indonesia: +633 cases (now 4.2 million), +43 deaths (now 143120), +218399 tests (now 44.3 million) since 23 hours ago — Laos: +392 cases (now 33998), +2 deaths (now 49), +6579 tests (now 581175) since a day ago13:29
BrainstormNew from COVID tweets: Michael Lin, PhD-MD 🧬 (@michaelzlin): Sstudy population could have had <50% VE from infection if >6mo out. Say it's 40% protection vs unvaccinated, i.e. 60% susceptible. Then 96% fewer cases after booster means boosted ones are getting infected at 4% of 60% = 2.4% vs unvaxxed, or 97.6% BVE [... want %more?] → https://twitter.com/michaelzlin/status/145114824069540250113:35
BrainstormUpdates for Romania: +16110 cases (now 1.5 million), +448 deaths (now 43487), +66880 tests (now 14.2 million) since a day ago — Nepal: +470 cases (now 807522), +8 deaths (now 11326), +6586 tests (now 4.4 million) since a day ago14:06
BrainstormNew from The Indian Express (Health): Life-style: Music fans spend more time listening to tunes during pandemic: Study → https://indianexpress.com/article/lifestyle/life-style/music-fans-spend-more-time-listening-to-tunes-during-pandemic-study-7582981/14:06
fooIf I was to have a covid-19 kit ready for when I get covid-19, what should I put in it? Vit D, Zinc, emergen-c, thermometer, oxymeter, anything else?14:07
undefined_bobmasks, preferable N95 at least14:09
fooundefined_bob: oh, haha, yes... of course. I have N94 but, if I'm contagious, N94 would be preferred. I don't think something like ivermectrum (spelling) is something I can easily put in there.14:10
fooI travel a bit, am solo. Trying to be prepared for self.14:10
fooTydenol for fever? What's the verdict on that?14:11
undefined_bobivermectin wont help you anyway. It is no cute for covid14:11
undefined_bob*cure14:11
fooundefined_bob: LIES! Jk, fair enough. I say that because I think india sends that home in kits...14:12
undefined_bobI think there is no verdict against Tydenol for fever, when it gets too high14:12
undefined_bobthat ivermectin thing is a huge topic, we should not open that one.14:13
undefined_bobwhy N94? isn't it N95 and N99?14:14
fooundefined_bob: oh, just a korean thing14:15
undefined_bobah yes, maybe they are named different there14:15
undefined_boband beside that I would say the usual things like handkerchiefs and hand desinfection14:16
foohand desinfection is great. *adds to list, thanks14:17
BrainstormNew from COVID tweets: Julia Raifman (@JuliaRaifman): Delta is differentPolicies should account for differences: ➡️ More transmissible➡️ Causing more hospitalizations & deaths ➡️ Vaccines still very effective for reducing hospitalizations + deaths, but now higher for all➡️ Vaccines less [... want %more?] → https://twitter.com/JuliaRaifman/status/145115829411090841814:17
undefined_boband just avoid close contact to people :D then you should be fine14:17
fooundefined_bob: thank you. :)14:18
undefined_bobyou're welcome :)14:19
BrainstormNew from Reddit (test): nCoV: Global COVID Cases For 21OCT21 → https://old.reddit.com/r/nCoV/comments/qcqkfn/global_covid_cases_for_21oct21/14:27
BrainstormUpdates for Belarus: +2097 cases (now 580029), +17 deaths (now 4466), +38789 tests (now 9.3 million) since a day ago — Bangladesh: +243 cases (now 1.6 million), +10 deaths (now 27801), +16088 tests (now 10.2 million) since 23 hours ago — Brunei: +156 cases (now 11542), +1 deaths (now 79), +6196 tests (now 460375) since a day ago [... want %more?]14:31
BrainstormNew from COVID tweets: Benjamin tenOever (@virusninja): We have focused recent efforts on the chronic changes that can present following recovery from #SARSCoV2 I don’t think it is likely persistent infection per se but rather expansive inflammatory sub genomic RNA that circulates & may show limited self [... want %more?] → https://twitter.com/virusninja/status/145116218632012186014:38
BrainstormNew from COVID tweets: Eric Topol (@EricTopol): The 1st randomized trial of a booster (3rd) shot in 10,000 people, placebo-controlled, shows 95.6% efficacy, with 5 cases (Pfizer vaccine) vs 109 in placebo group, Delta variant, broad benefit across age groups ft.com/content/d4e58d… pic.twitter.com/3RkqvXNfsU → https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/145117031349285274015:00
BrainstormUpdates for UAE: +94 cases (now 739018), +2 deaths (now 2126), +271439 tests (now 90.5 million) since a day ago15:08
BrainstormNew from COVID tweets: Brian Hjelle, virologist (@hjelle_brian): We all are forced to be so cautious about mixed vaccines and the like in the face of our FDA and litigious culture, but for the record, mixed format vaxes have been all but de rigueur for research efforts against the WORST bugs, like HIV and Ebola, [... want %more?] → https://twitter.com/hjelle_brian/status/145117237193562112815:10
BrainstormNew from COVID tweets: Brian Hjelle, virologist (@hjelle_brian): For those trying a mixed-vax play of some kind, the Prizer and Moderna vaxes are basically the same.Adeno-based vaxes like AZ, J&J, are basically similar, and are less divergent from Pfizer/Moderna than is Novavax, the only "non-genetic" [... want %more?] → https://twitter.com/hjelle_brian/status/145117590044411904615:21
BrainstormNew from StatNews: Pharma: STAT+: Pharmalittle: Power for Medicare to negotiate drug prices grows less likely; FDA OKs mix-and-match Covid booster shots → https://www.statnews.com/pharmalot/2021/10/21/covid19-vaccine-booster-medicare-drug-prices/15:32
BrainstormUpdates for Gibraltar: +21 cases (now 5824), +843 tests (now 378337) since 23 hours ago15:33
BrainstormNew from Reddit (test): Covid2019: What doctors wish patients knew about double masking → https://old.reddit.com/r/Covid2019/comments/qcrxfo/what_doctors_wish_patients_knew_about_double/15:42
BrainstormNew from COVID tweets: Eric Topol (@EricTopol): Just published @Nature An in-depth assessment of AZ then Pfizer vaccine immune response compared with 2 Pfizer doses, with better neutralizing antibody response by mix, across all major variantsnature.com/articles/s4158… pic.twitter.com/EIsr1KmWSV → https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/145118383546335642715:53
BrainstormNew from Reddit (test): China_Flu: Brain MRI in SARS-CoV-2 pneumonia patients with newly developed neurological manifestations suggestive of brain involvement → https://old.reddit.com/r/China_Flu/comments/qcshqg/brain_mri_in_sarscov2_pneumonia_patients_with/16:14
BrainstormNew from COVID tweets: Eric Topol (@EricTopol): The United States has had almost 2 years to get its Covid testing right and still can't get its act together, cf many countries testing 4-5X per capita, providing free (or very low cost) home tests  ft.com/content/b903be… of critical importance in the Delta wave [... want %more?] → https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/145119144736597606816:24
BrainstormNew from StatNews: WHO estimate: 115,000 health workers have died from Covid-19, as calls for vaccine access grow: “More than 10 months since the first vaccines were approved, the fact that millions of health care workers still haven’t been [... want %more?] → https://www.statnews.com/2021/10/21/who-estimate-115000-health-workers-have-died-from-covid-19-as-calls-for-vaccine-access-grow/16:34
BrainstormUpdates for Denmark: +1247 cases (now 374583), +2 deaths (now 2698), +70806 tests (now 85.0 million) since 22 hours ago — Canada: +2743 cases (now 1.7 million), +40 deaths (now 28702) since 21 hours ago — Saudi Arabia: +46 cases (now 548111), +3 deaths (now 8773), +49069 tests (now 29.9 million) since a day ago — Switzerland: +5 deaths (now 11191) since 3 hours ago16:35
BrainstormNew from EMA: What's new: Medicine: Veterinary medicines European public assessment report (EPAR): Vaxxitek HVT+IBD, Infectious bursal disease and Marek's disease vaccine (live recombinant), Date of authorisation: 09/08/2002, Revision: 15, Status: Authorised → https://www.ema.europa.eu/en/medicines/veterinary/EPAR/vaxxitek-hvtibd16:46
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: NIH Admits to Funding Gain-of-Function Research in Wuhan, Says EcoHealth Violated Reporting Requirements → https://old.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/qctctt/nih_admits_to_funding_gainoffunction_research_in/16:56
BrainstormUpdates for India: +6201 cases (now 34.1 million), +77 deaths (now 452873) since 23 hours ago17:00
BrainstormNew from ClinicalTrials.gov: (news): LOnger-term Effects of SARS-CoV-2 INfection on Blood Vessels And Blood pRessure (LOCHINVAR) → https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT0508729017:07
BrainstormNew from ClinicalTrials.gov: (news): COVID-19 Infection in Patients With Chronic Pulmonary Diseases. → https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT0508719917:18
BrainstormUpdates for Germany: +16121 cases (now 4.4 million), +74 deaths (now 95717) since 20 hours ago17:37
BrainstormNew from ClinicalTrials.gov: (news): COVID19 Hospitilized in Clinica Pasteur of Neuquen (Argentina) → https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT0508739417:39
de-facto.title https://www.nature.com/articles/s43588-021-00136-617:53
Brainstormde-facto: From www.nature.com: Climatic signatures in the different COVID-19 pandemic waves across both hemispheres | Nature Computational Science17:53
de-facto.title https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.10.16.21265096v117:56
Brainstormde-facto: From www.medrxiv.org: SARS-COV-2 δ variant drives the pandemic in India and Europe via two subvariants | medRxiv17:56
BrainstormNew from ClinicalTrials.gov: (news): Effectiveness of Using Interactive Consulting System to Enhance Decision Aids of COVID-19 Vaccination → https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT0508717318:01
BrainstormUpdates for Netherlands: +5237 cases (now 2.1 million), +8 deaths (now 18716) since 19 hours ago — Italy: +3791 cases (now 4.7 million), +36 deaths (now 131724), +574671 tests (now 99.7 million) since 23 hours ago — United Kingdom: +40360 cases (now 8.6 million) since 23 hours ago18:02
BrainstormNew from COVID tweets: Eric Topol (@EricTopol): Severe Covid and the #brain: infection can induce "string vessels" in patients due to death of endothelial cells (lining blood vessels), signifying microvascular damage, verified in experimental modelsnature.com/articles/s4159… @NatureNeuro pic.twitter.com/62enzlsAjZ → https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/145122151230055219318:22
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: NIH Admits Fauci Lied About Gain-Of-Function Funding To Wuhan Lab → https://old.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/qcvpis/nih_admits_fauci_lied_about_gainoffunction/18:54
BrainstormNew from COVID tweets: Eric Topol (@EricTopol): "This rapid systematic review found evidence of long-distance airborne transmission of #SARSCoV2 in indoor community settings "#COVIDisAirborne, forget the 6-foot rule, attend to ventilation and air filtrationmedrxiv.org/content/10.110… → https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/145123142864191078719:04
de-facto.title https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.10.20.21265269v119:24
Brainstormde-facto: From www.medrxiv.org: Effect of the third dose of BNT162b2 vaccine in quantitative SARS-CoV-2 spike 1-2 IgG antibody titers in healthcare workers | medRxiv19:24
BrainstormNew from COVID tweets: Eric Topol (@EricTopol): For many years to come it will be BP and AP, where P = pandemic.We need to get to AP ASAP.We have the tools to do it. → https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/145123719457676083319:25
de-factointerestingly less side effects for third dose than second19:27
de-factoooofff19:29
de-facto.title https://www.nature.com/articles/s41593-021-00926-119:29
Brainstormde-facto: From www.nature.com: The SARS-CoV-2 main protease Mpro causes microvascular brain pathology by cleaving NEMO in brain endothelial cells | Nature Neuroscience19:29
de-facto"Coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) can damage cerebral small vessels and cause neurological symptoms. Here we describe structural changes in cerebral small vessels of patients with COVID-19 and elucidate potential mechanisms underlying the vascular pathology."19:31
BrainstormUpdates for Canada: +2648 cases (now 1.7 million), +42 deaths (now 28705) since 22 hours ago19:36
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: NIH Admits to Funding Gain-of-Function Research in Wuhan, Says EcoHealth Violated Reporting Requirements → https://old.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/qcwyii/nih_admits_to_funding_gainoffunction_research_in/19:46
BrainstormNew from New Scientist: Gun violence rose 30 per cent in the US during the covid-19 pandemic: Gun violence rose overall in the US during the covid-19 pandemic. The highest increase was seen in Minnesota, while Alaska had a dip in gun violence cases → https://www.newscientist.com/article/2294675-gun-violence-rose-30-per-cent-in-the-us-during-the-covid-19-pandemic/19:56
BrainstormUpdates for Spain: +1881 cases (now 5.0 million), +20 deaths (now 87102) since a day ago20:00
BrainstormUpdates for Moldova: +1787 cases (now 323469), +40 deaths (now 7386), +40922 tests (now 1.9 million) since a day ago21:03
BrainstormNew from StatNews: Listen: Inside the vaccine race, how a Covid pill failed, & Biogen’s troubled launch: Is Moderna misunderstood? Can Biogen turn a profit in Alzheimer's disease? And what went wrong with the latest Covid-19 pill? Find out on the latest episode of "The Readout LOUD."… → https://www.statnews.com/2021/10/21/podcast-vaccine-race-covid-pill-failed-biogen/21:10
BrainstormUpdates for United Kingdom: +117 deaths (now 139561) since 18 hours ago21:40
BrainstormNew from COVID tweets: Dr Eilir Hughes (@hughes_eilir): If WHO had categorised COVID-19 as an airborne transmitted virus then better quality masks would’ve been advised for health workers. Appreciate that the stocks weren’t available everywhere, but truth is the truth.Virus may have killed 180k health [... want %more?] → https://twitter.com/hughes_eilir/status/145126621555350733421:41
BrainstormNew from CIDRAP: Low COVID vaccine uptake, worse outcomes noted in racial minorities: Mary Van Beusekom | News Writer | CIDRAP News Oct 21, 2021 One study shows a 30% lower vaccination rate, and another higher rates of severe disease and death. → https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2021/10/low-covid-vaccine-uptake-worse-outcomes-noted-racial-minorities21:51
BrainstormNew from COVID tweets: Michael Lin, PhD-MD 🧬 (@michaelzlin): Plus as FDA approved the Moderna booster for Moderna recipients, they must have evidence of safety for that combination, even though this gives you higher antibodies than original Moderna fully vaxxed. I tend to choose the middle option when there is [... want %more?] → https://twitter.com/michaelzlin/status/145127530196764672222:01
BrainstormNew from COVID tweets: Brian Hjelle, virologist (@hjelle_brian): No doubt we will find transmission among fully vaxed when we look but just as we can't tell which of us is alive bc of smallpox vax, we can't tell how many vaxed are COVID-free cuz of COVID vax. medrxiv.org/content/10.110… → https://twitter.com/hjelle_brian/status/145127915570262426422:12
BrainstormNew from COVID tweets: Brian Hjelle, virologist (@hjelle_brian): What's airborne spread like? Can ya smell cigarette smoke from that guy 20 feet away? Got it? → https://twitter.com/hjelle_brian/status/145128309438476699722:33
BrainstormNew from COVID tweets: Prof Francois Balloux (@BallouxFrancois): A couple of epi-forecasting predictions I find fairly implausible for the UK right now:- Daily covid case numbers going up for much longer- Daily covid case numbers ever reaching 100k → https://twitter.com/BallouxFrancois/status/145128870245458330022:54
BrainstormNew from This Week In Virology: TWiV 819: How to stall a copy machine: TWiV explains how remdesivir inhibits the SARS-CoV-2 RNA polymerase: the drug is incorporated into the growing RNA chain and causes synthesis to stall when the drug clashes with an amino acid in the active site. → https://www.microbe.tv/twiv/twiv-819/23:15
BrainstormUpdates for Germany: +17134 cases (now 4.4 million), +85 deaths (now 95753) since 16 hours ago — Maldives: +131 cases (now 86550), +1 deaths (now 240), +3889 tests (now 1.6 million) since a day ago — Namibia: +19 cases (now 128414), +1 deaths (now 3544), +1396 tests (now 736211) since a day ago23:32
BrainstormNew from COVID tweets: Anthony J Leonardi, PhD, MS (@fitterhappierAJ): many lymphocytes leave the blood. I also think many lymphocytes die. twitter.com/CovidComunidad… → https://twitter.com/fitterhappierAJ/status/145130058777404211723:36
BrainstormNew from StatNews: CDC advisory panel backs mix-and-match approach to Covid-19 vaccine boosters: An expert panel that advises the CDC voted unanimously to recommend booster shots for people who were vaccinated with the Moderna and J&J Covid-19 vaccines on Thursday. → https://www.statnews.com/2021/10/21/moderna-jandj-booster-covid19-vaccine-cdc/23:57

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