| Brainstorm | Updates for Colombia: +3414 cases (now 5.1 million), +43 deaths (now 129729), +27310 tests (now 29.3 million) since 23 hours ago — Madagascar: +2295 cases (now 49590), +31 deaths (now 1027), +13701 tests (now 320884) since 6 days ago | 00:02 |
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| Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Gunhild Alvik Nyborg (@GANyborg): Interviewed in @LEXPRESS, France. @CecPhil @TheWHN @CovidActionGrp twitter.com/LEXPRESS/statu… → https://twitter.com/GANyborg/status/1474876603259932678 | 00:18 |
| * ferret coughs in the room | 00:34 | |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Jamaica: +158 cases (now 92513) since a day ago — St. Kitts and Nevis: +14 cases (now 2836) since 22 hours ago — Netherlands: +13002 cases (now 3.1 million) since 21 hours ago | 00:46 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Officials in the north-western Chinese city of Xian are facing punishment for “not doing a good job” after a Covid-19 outbreak led to the lockdown of its 13 million residents. → https://old.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/rok02q/officials_in_the_northwestern_chinese_city_of/ | 00:47 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Anger over mask mandates, other covid rules, spurs states to curb power of public health officials → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/rok7eg/anger_over_mask_mandates_other_covid_rules_spurs/ | 00:56 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Panama: +865 cases (now 486377), +3 deaths (now 7409), +11945 tests (now 4.4 million) since a day ago — Rwanda: +713 cases (now 104512), +1 deaths (now 1346), +35940 tests (now 3.9 million) since a day ago | 01:11 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Omicron blindspots: why it’s hard to track coronavirus variants → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/rokt2r/omicron_blindspots_why_its_hard_to_track/ | 01:34 |
| LjL | because we don't fucking sequence | 01:34 |
| LjL | 's why | 01:34 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Ivory Coast: +455 cases (now 63847), +2478 tests (now 1.2 million) since a day ago — Cabo Verde: +148 cases (now 39013), +929 tests (now 388481) since a day ago | 01:35 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: How long does it take for taste and smell to return? I’m currently on Day 6 and I’ve only just lost it. → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/rol5uy/how_long_does_it_take_for_taste_and_smell_to/ | 01:52 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: 2 Caribbean ports turn away Florida cruise ship, citing COVID outbreak → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/rolilk/2_caribbean_ports_turn_away_florida_cruise_ship/ | 02:12 |
| Brainstorm | New from NPR: COVID-19 outbreaks hit 3 cruise ships as Florida breaks record for new cases: An undisclosed number of passengers and crew aboard the Carnival Freedom tested positive. It was the third outbreak this week affecting ships operated by Carnival and Royal Caribbean. → https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2021/12/25/1068023210/cruise-ships-covid-florida | 02:21 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: UK sets new record for Covid cases as Omicron sweeps London → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/rolw3y/uk_sets_new_record_for_covid_cases_as_omicron/ | 02:31 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: As COVID-19 causes Premier League chaos, focus turns to convincing vaccine-hesitant players → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/rolzqy/as_covid19_causes_premier_league_chaos_focus/ | 02:40 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Antigua and Barb.: +20 cases (now 4236) since a day ago | 02:44 |
| LjL | "Does anyone think that London is like NYC and hitting the testing limit? They had projected 200,000 cases a day in London by last Monday, if the doubling rate holds." "For sure they’ve hit their limit. My wife took a private test post travel. Did not get results back. Was sick (but boosted.) Then took an NHS test early last week. Mailed it. No results from that one either." | 02:53 |
| LjL | ( https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/rolw3y/uk_sets_new_record_for_covid_cases_as_omicron/ ) | 02:53 |
| LjL | we've had two years to at least organize decent testing during peaks | 02:53 |
| dre | in my city, cars are parked for 1/2 mile to get tested | 02:55 |
| Brainstorm | New from Reddit (test): CoronaVirus_2019_nCoV: Long COVID patients and doctors detail the growing 'mass disabling event' in America → https://old.reddit.com/r/CoronaVirus_2019_nCoV/comments/romjd5/long_covid_patients_and_doctors_detail_the/ | 02:59 |
| LjL | dre, one absurd thing here is until you get a positive PCR result, your household is technically supposed to keep going to work (and "technically" becomes "practically" if they can't afford to take leave) | 03:01 |
| LjL | we don't do contact tracing anymore... okay, we've stopped doing that long ago... i "accept" that | 03:02 |
| LjL | but seriously, *discouraging* people from quarantining? | 03:02 |
| LjL | but in NY they are apparently telling people who are positive to stop isolating *after 5 days* (did you know this ublx?) as long as they are only "mildly" symptomatic, without needing to take a test | 03:02 |
| LjL | i guess they've just gone with "omicron is mild, also we need people to be working, let them all catch it" | 03:03 |
| ublx | in 5 days? | 03:04 |
| ublx | well i have often seen "most contagious 2 days before and 3 days after" quoted | 03:04 |
| LjL | ublx, sure let's take an average and veeeery narrowly make the quarantine time be just a tiny bit past it ;( | 03:05 |
| xx | which country will be the first one to basically declare covid over by giving up on everything? | 03:05 |
| LjL | well NY may not be a country but it's bigger than many | 03:05 |
| ublx | on the other hand, also see numerous accounts of staff shortages owing to isolating | 03:05 |
| lastshell | I hear they reduce the number of isolation only 7 days | 03:06 |
| LjL | ublx, yes i know, i assume that's why they're doing it, but... | 03:06 |
| xx | yeah it feels like we're close to declaring covid over just due to not having enough staff | 03:06 |
| xx | "some of you will die, but we're willing to accept that" | 03:06 |
| LjL | xx, ublx: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Resignation "Another theory is that millions of people are also suffering disabilities from Long COVID, altering their ability or desire to work.[19]" - i'd definitely heard this theory before | 03:07 |
| lastshell | the greather good | 03:07 |
| xx | really wonder which country will have the guts to say that | 03:07 |
| LjL | xx, eh Johnson pretty much said that at some point | 03:07 |
| xx | yeah but they said it in politicians words, not real words | 03:07 |
| LjL | anyway my point with linking that being: how much *more* "staff shortage" will there be (except permanently) if COVID is just allowed to run rampant? | 03:08 |
| lastshell | maybe they want to push "heard inmunity" | 03:09 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for New Zealand: +134 cases (now 13855), +1 deaths (now 50), +27763 tests (now 5.5 million) since a day ago | 03:09 |
| xx | I'd guess less staff shortage, because those who are most likely to die or be severely affected are no longer part of the workforce | 03:09 |
| LjL | %title https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.12.23.21268276v1 | 03:16 |
| Brainstorm | LjL: From www.medrxiv.org: Risk of myocarditis following sequential COVID-19 vaccinations by age and sex | medRxiv | 03:16 |
| LjL | i see one number standing out A LOT in this abstract... | 03:16 |
| LjL | and this would also explain why Scandinavia stopped Moderna in people younger than 30 | 03:17 |
| dre | BREAKING: New York reports 38,835 new coronavirus cases, the biggest one-day increase on record, of which 22,808 are in New York City | 03:19 |
| dre | until the hospitals are full, and people are dying the streets, they won't go back to closing anything | 03:21 |
| xx | were people actually dying in the streets in front of hospitals, or was that just fake news? | 03:24 |
| xx | I've seen some videos, but could never find out if they were authentic | 03:25 |
| xx | or if they were even from the right year | 03:25 |
| dre | in Asia I think there were some | 03:25 |
| dre | and proly in that huge India event | 03:25 |
| dre | when they ran out of oxygen | 03:26 |
| LjL | (India is "in Asia", just ftr) | 03:26 |
| xx | yeah running out of oxygen kills people, irrelevant of any pandemic | 03:26 |
| dre | shrug s.asia yes, subcontinent | 03:26 |
| dre | um, what, 02 is relevant | 03:27 |
| xx | I never consider india to be part of asia | 03:27 |
| xx | wasn't it its own continent at some point that got rammed into rest of asia (and created those huge mountains)? | 03:27 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: The US is undercounting COVID deaths, researchers say. Now they have a tool to figure out why. → https://old.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/romwnb/the_us_is_undercounting_covid_deaths_researchers/ | 03:28 |
| LjL | my point being "in Asia" is so comprehensive as to be pretty much useless as a location | 03:30 |
| xx | "on earth" | 03:31 |
| xx | have any astronauts in space been positive for rona yet? | 03:31 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Vaxzevria significantly boosted antibody levels against Omicron → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/ron169/vaxzevria_significantly_boosted_antibody_levels/ | 03:37 |
| dre | xx, you seem to be a CV skeptic? | 03:39 |
| xx | what's a coronavirus skeptic exactly? | 03:40 |
| xx | my position is this - it's been two years, everyone who wanted to get their own health in order had enough time, PPE is available, vaccines are available, etc. so anyone who refuses to help their own body should be refused help | 03:41 |
| dre | yeah, I would disagree | 03:41 |
| dTal | most people would hopefully disagree | 03:41 |
| xx | well I can't bring myself to care the slightest about people who refuse to get fit, refuse to wear PPE, refuse to wash hands, refuse to observe all sorts of other guidance, refuse vaccines, and still expect doctors to give them the same level of care as those who put the effort in | 03:44 |
| LjL | i guess nobody cares about Moderna having 10x the myocarditis risk for <40 males than Pfizer or AZ, uh | 03:44 |
| lastshell | LjL from Pfizer is less risk of myocarditis ? | 03:45 |
| LjL | lastshell, so indicates this study | 03:45 |
| LjL | and i would say, so indicates the fact all of Scandinavia stopped Moderna for people under 30 but didn't stop Pfizer | 03:45 |
| LjL | i didn't have data they had on this before | 03:45 |
| xx | it's still very small number of events, even considering 42M people | 03:46 |
| LjL | usually when i'd mention that, people would just tell me "they're probably just overreacting" | 03:46 |
| LjL | but i can say i wouldn't be happy to learn i've taken a vaccine that gives me a 10-fold risk of myocarditis than the guy next to me who got Pfizer or AZ | 03:46 |
| LjL | xx, it's still >10x the number of events you'd get from getting COVID | 03:46 |
| xx | oh is it? | 03:46 |
| LjL | 12 vs 7, fine, who cares, greater good | 03:46 |
| LjL | yes, they mostly all are, for this part of the population | 03:47 |
| LjL | please check out the abstract | 03:47 |
| LjL | but 12 vs 7 i will accept, 100 vs 7 and most countries being shush about it, not so much | 03:47 |
| dre | omicron is waning less fast with moderna per israel studies than BNT | 03:48 |
| dre | relative risks | 03:48 |
| lastshell | maybe is a correlation of myocarditis more protection, Moderna protects more than Pfizer | 03:48 |
| LjL | possible, yes | 03:48 |
| LjL | but it doesn't protect 10x as much | 03:48 |
| xx | LjL: yikes, I just read that. I get why they don't want to give much publicity to that if the data were checked and found to be truly significant. | 03:49 |
| LjL | xx, note the study comes from a Scottish government agency, not from anti-vax international | 03:49 |
| xx | yeah | 03:49 |
| LjL | and it's on 40 million people which i assume is roughly the vaccinated/recovered UK population | 03:49 |
| lastshell | is right now hard to call pandemic is going to be over ? | 03:50 |
| LjL | there won't be a discrete time when it's "over" | 03:51 |
| xx | lastshell: don't know, I can't tell which country is closest to being so strained on resources that they'll effectively be forced to declare it over | 03:51 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Netherlands: +456 cases (now 3.1 million), +1 deaths (now 21170) since 10 hours ago | 04:36 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Hong Kong researchers say COVID masks could pollute over 54,000 Olympic pools worth of oceans → https://old.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/roo4wz/hong_kong_researchers_say_covid_masks_could/ | 04:44 |
| -RSSBot[LjLmatrix- Zotero / COVID links Group / Top-Level Items: Risk of myocarditis following sequential COVID-19 vaccinations by age and sex ( https://www.zotero.org/groups/covid_links/items/A6G9XNI3 ) | 04:52 | |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Japan: +316 cases (now 1.7 million), +1 deaths (now 18387), +39654 tests (now 29.1 million) since a day ago | 05:01 |
| Brainstorm | New from BBC Health: First and second Covid jabs surge in England: Vaccinations continue during the festive period as the UK's daily Covid cases hit an all-time high. → https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-59791656 | 05:02 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for India: +6987 cases (now 34.8 million), +162 deaths (now 479682) since 23 hours ago | 05:39 |
| -RSSBot[LjLmatrix- Zotero / COVID links Group / Top-Level Items: Vaxzevria significantly boosted antibody levels against Omicron ( https://www.zotero.org/groups/covid_links/items/F8FVREBD ) | 05:47 | |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express (Health): Health: All you need to know about loneliness, the ‘urban epidemic’ → https://indianexpress.com/article/lifestyle/health/all-you-need-to-know-about-loneliness-the-urban-epidemic-7685209/ | 05:50 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Peru: +5922 cases (now 2.3 million), +34 deaths (now 202488), +154839 tests (now 21.5 million) since a day ago | 06:04 |
| Brainstorm | New from This Week In Virology: TWiV 846: Beta was stirring, and now in a mouse: TWiV explores the impact of the intestinal virome on seroconversion after rotavirus vaccination, and implications of the ability of the SARS-CoV-2 beta variant to infect wild-type laboratory mice. → https://www.microbe.tv/twiv/twiv-846/ | 06:09 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Are pandemic-related stressors increasing young women’s vulnerability to STIs? → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/ropzkc/are_pandemicrelated_stressors_increasing_young/ | 06:37 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: How Costco, Sam's Club and BJ's won the pandemic → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/roq3eg/how_costco_sams_club_and_bjs_won_the_pandemic/ | 06:46 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Florida, United States: +75218 cases (now 3.9 million) since 2 days ago — New Jersey, United States: +19481 cases (now 1.4 million), +6 deaths (now 28854) since a day ago — Lombardy, Italy: +17362 cases (now 1.1 million), +38 deaths (now 34925) since a day ago — Puerto Rico, United States: +17254 cases (now 225716), +3 deaths (now 3291) since 2 days ago | 06:47 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Two more members of K-pop group BTS test positive for COVID-19 → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/ror45o/two_more_members_of_kpop_group_bts_test_positive/ | 07:43 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/COVID19: COVID19: Children develop robust and sustained cross-reactive spike-specific immune responses to SARS-CoV-2 infection → https://www.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/rorj16/children_develop_robust_and_sustained/ | 08:49 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Taiwan: +24 cases (now 16915), +19043 tests (now 9.1 million) since a day ago | 09:11 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Gunhild Alvik Nyborg (@GANyborg): Prevalence of SARS-cov-2 in London currently at 9.4%. Of all peopleEstimated from ongoing community prevalence study. twitter.com/seedragons/sta… → https://twitter.com/GANyborg/status/1475017002569904135 | 09:17 |
| -Bridgestorm- 🏠 地震! Earthquake! 6.0 M tremor, registered by yurekuru, occurred 3 minutes ago (08:26:46 UTC), during twilight, Southwestern Ryukyu Isl., Japan (25.2, 125.7), ↓34 km likely felt 260 km away (in 宮古島市, 石垣市, 那覇市, 浦添市, 糸満市…) by 1.0 million people with maximum intensity Shindo 4 → https://twitter.com/yurekuru/status/1475020362098552832 https://twitter.com/yurekuru/status/1475020337180192773 — | 09:30 | |
| -Bridgestorm- Webcams: https://www.windy.com/webcams/1626563335 https://www.windy.com/webcams/1484522198 https://www.windy.com/webcams/1597911339 (Twitter) | 09:30 | |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Maharashtra, India: +1485 cases (now 6.7 million), +12 deaths (now 141416) since a day ago — Delhi, India: +249 cases (now 1.4 million), +1 deaths (now 25104) since a day ago — Gujarat, India: +179 cases (now 829182), +2 deaths (now 10113) since a day ago — Haryana, India: +90 cases (now 772541) since a day ago | 09:36 |
| -Bridgestorm- 🏠 地震! Earthquake! 5.9 Mww tremor, registered by EMSC,ObservatoryHK,US, occurred 22 minutes ago (08:26:46 UTC), during twilight, Southwestern Ryukyu Isl., Japan (25.23, 125.57) ± 2 km, ↓5 km likely felt 250 km away (in 宮古島市, 石垣市…) by 103200 people — Webcams: https://www.windy.com/webcams/1626563335 https://www.windy.com/webcams/1484522198 (www.seismicportal.eu) | 09:49 | |
| Dredd | <xx> "my position is this - it's..." <- There are risk factors other than just obesity / being sedentary 🙄 | 09:53 |
| sdfgsdfg | eh ? being sedentary is a comorbidity ? | 09:56 |
| sdfgsdfg | actually right, exercise is probably good for immune system | 09:56 |
| minthos | being sedentary is a morbidity by itself, and since the virus attacks heart and lungs it makes sense to keep them strong | 09:59 |
| sdfgsdfg | I think I want to dance, I know it's the peak or almost the peak, but I can't hold this any longer... Everyone is having so much fun downtown | 10:02 |
| sdfgsdfg | I'm going out... that's it | 10:02 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Science: science: Omicron extensively but incompletely escapes Pfizer BNT162b2 neutralization → https://old.reddit.com/r/science/comments/rot6cx/omicron_extensively_but_incompletely_escapes/ | 10:15 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Marc Veldhoen (@Marc_Veld): Omicron: bleak New Year or beginning of the end for the pandemic?Signs remain positive.theguardian.com/world/2021/dec… → https://twitter.com/Marc_Veld/status/1475034875354877953 | 10:43 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Covid-19: 'Everybody in Australia will get Omicron,' NSW Premier warns → https://old.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/rotq7f/covid19_everybody_in_australia_will_get_omicron/ | 10:53 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Oman: +121 cases (now 305105), +1 deaths (now 4114) since 2 days ago | 11:03 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Three new studies suggest omicron has lower hospitalization risk and is milder than other variants → https://old.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/rou11f/three_new_studies_suggest_omicron_has_lower/ | 11:11 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Science: science: A synthetic defective interfering SARS-CoV-2 → https://old.reddit.com/r/science/comments/roud8y/a_synthetic_defective_interfering_sarscov2/ | 11:40 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Nepal: +213 cases (now 827271), +2 deaths (now 11585), +7180 tests (now 4.8 million) since 23 hours ago | 11:40 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Libya: +735 cases (now 385398), +10 deaths (now 5651), +5449 tests (now 2.0 million) since a day ago | 12:05 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Australian state sees record cases, lab sends false results | AP News → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/rouy6a/australian_state_sees_record_cases_lab_sends/ | 12:27 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: German government wants 80% vaccination rate by the end of January. The goal of reaching it by January 7th has not been achieved, the current vaccination rate is at 73,8%. → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/rovbzl/german_government_wants_80_vaccination_rate_by/ | 12:55 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Covid live: UK considering door-to-door vaccination teams, reports say; new restrictions in Wales, Scotland and NI | World news → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/rovhwg/covid_live_uk_considering_doortodoor_vaccination/ | 13:14 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: South Australia will reintroduce a raft of COVID-19 restrictions after Omicron cases surge → https://old.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/rovvgb/south_australia_will_reintroduce_a_raft_of/ | 13:33 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Germany: +13923 cases (now 7.0 million) since 22 hours ago — Bangladesh: +268 cases (now 1.6 million), +4 deaths (now 28060), +17072 tests (now 11.4 million) since 22 hours ago | 13:39 |
| Arsanerit | so convenient that the counting offices are closed, almost no cases </s> | 13:47 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for UAE: +1803 cases (now 751333), +2 deaths (now 2158), +334211 tests (now 109.3 million) since a day ago | 14:04 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Massachusetts state trooper fired over Gov. Charlie Baker’s COVID vaccine mandate → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/rowdz4/massachusetts_state_trooper_fired_over_gov/ | 14:10 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: TWiV 846: Beta was stirring, and now in a mouse → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/rowjrh/twiv_846_beta_was_stirring_and_now_in_a_mouse/ | 14:20 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Senegal: +59 cases (now 74412), +1575 tests (now 912419) since 23 hours ago | 14:29 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Scott Gottlieb, MD (@ScottGottliebMD): My JAMA editorial: ‘The regulatory path outlined by FDA for COVID tests… represents a cultural shift likely to persist… It offers profound opportunity to improve the affordability, access, and effectiveness of medical care for a range of [... want %more?] → https://twitter.com/ScottGottliebMD/status/1475096561529016329 | 14:39 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express (Health): Health: Doctors weigh in on the importance of Covid vaccine for kids and booster shots for adults → https://indianexpress.com/article/lifestyle/health/doctors-weigh-in-on-the-importance-of-covid-vaccine-for-kids-and-booster-shots-for-adults/ | 14:48 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Denmark: +14200 cases (now 699608), +13 deaths (now 3210), +318506 tests (now 105.0 million) since a day ago — Saudi Arabia: +389 cases (now 552795), +1 deaths (now 8871), +66375 tests (now 32.8 million) since a day ago | 15:06 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Omicron extensively but incompletely escapes Pfizer BNT162b2 neutralization → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/roxffg/omicron_extensively_but_incompletely_escapes/ | 15:17 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Two-thirds of new Covid hospital patients in England only tested positive AFTER being admitted → https://old.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/roxrqp/twothirds_of_new_covid_hospital_patients_in/ | 15:36 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: NYC COVID surge: 'Striking' jump in pediatric hospitalizations → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/roy21o/nyc_covid_surge_striking_jump_in_pediatric/ | 15:55 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Scott Gottlieb, MD (@ScottGottliebMD): “New York State Department of Health is closely monitoring an upward trend in pediatric hospitalizations associated with COVID-19.” health.ny.gov/press/releases… pic.twitter.com/EzM6r2YS8K → https://twitter.com/ScottGottliebMD/status/1475123996333072386 | 16:23 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Steve Miller (@SteveMillerOC): I find myself very strongly anti-anti-vaccine mandate. I basically view people opposed to vaccine mandates as advocating for the freedom to breath disease in my face, and I have both a rational and an emotional reaction to that advocacy. twitter.com/nbsaphiermd/st… → https://twitter.com/SteveMillerOC/status/1475128067622268929 | 16:42 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Eric Topol (@EricTopol): When it's hard to explainJapan has withstood Omicron's rise to dominance with very few cases, deaths, boosters to date, 78% vaccinatedWhile South Korea, like Japan, masking and distancing, 82% vaccinated, high use of boosters, had a significant [... want %more?] → https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/1475130269040451588 | 16:51 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Eric Topol (@EricTopol): A variant-proof, pan-coronavirus vaccine is on the horizon, now with the first starting a Phase 2 clinical trial. I had the privilege of teaming up with @dr_kkjetelina to write about it @SubstackInc yourlocalepidemiologist.substack.com/p/pan-coronavi… → https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/1475132560275431426 | 17:01 |
| Arsanerit | Would a pan-coronavirus vaccine have an effect that lasts longer? | 17:13 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: HCMC risks lack of oxygen for Covid patients → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/rozo4s/hcmc_risks_lack_of_oxygen_for_covid_patients/ | 17:20 |
| Arsanerit | I want a pan-coronavirus vaccine please. | 17:22 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Eric Topol (@EricTopol): We reflect on the progress of science throughout the pandemic, now with a potent anti-Covid pill emerging, and the persistent vulnerability in the US, with net optimism, @cuttingforstone and me looking back and forward, new @Medscape podcast and [... want %more?] → https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/1475139164546822147 | 17:30 |
| xx | Arsanerit: probably as close as a cancer cure | 17:31 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Netherlands: +12342 cases (now 3.1 million), +12 deaths (now 21181) since 23 hours ago | 17:36 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Florida COVID update: State sets another new record for single-day case increase → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/rp03n7/florida_covid_update_state_sets_another_new/ | 17:39 |
| lastshell | how things going on ? | 17:42 |
| Arsanerit | xx: I want a cancer cure too, please. | 17:48 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: UM Upper Chesapeake Health declares hospital disaster in Harford County as COVID cases hit new peak → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/rp095t/um_upper_chesapeake_health_declares_hospital/ | 17:49 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Montenegro: +545 cases (now 163373), +5 deaths (now 2394), +2769 tests (now 954972) since a day ago | 18:01 |
| Arsanerit | xx: Is it that hard really? | 18:06 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Omicron cases in Singapore have not been severe, none required intensive care, oxygen supplementation so far → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/rp0m8m/omicron_cases_in_singapore_have_not_been_severe/ | 18:08 |
| xx | Arsanerit: top minds have been trying to find a coronavirus vaccine for over 20 years. | 18:11 |
| xx | Top. Minds. | 18:11 |
| xx | there doesn't seem to be a universal stable surface on coronaviruses that would be accessible to detection by the immune system | 18:12 |
| xx | so I don't see that method (which is the method that has always been used) working out ever | 18:12 |
| xx | a completely novel way of making the immune system recognize coronaviruses would need to be developed, but it is not even being funded currently | 18:13 |
| xx | because it is unlikely to be profitable in the next 10-15 years, which basically means nobody will provide funding | 18:13 |
| Arsanerit | ok | 18:13 |
| xx | so the scientists are just working with scraps | 18:14 |
| Arsanerit | pity | 18:14 |
| Arsanerit | but this one is starting phase 2 already? or is that not too much special? | 18:14 |
| xx | basically spending more time doing paperwork and trying to find grants than doing actual science | 18:14 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Israel said delaying rollout of 4th COVID shots amid signs Omicron less severe → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/rp0tow/israel_said_delaying_rollout_of_4th_covid_shots/ | 18:17 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: SARS-CoV-2 Omicron variant shows less efficient replication and fusion activity when compared with delta variant in TMPRSS2-expressed cells → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/rp0z6u/sarscov2_omicron_variant_shows_less_efficient/ | 18:27 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Italy: +24882 cases (now 5.6 million), +81 deaths (now 136611), +217052 tests (now 135.4 million) since a day ago | 18:32 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: France breaks 100,000 barrier for 24-hour Covid infections → https://old.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/rp1l1u/france_breaks_100000_barrier_for_24hour_covid/ | 18:56 |
| xx | where are they even getting these numbers from? Who is getting tested these days? | 19:07 |
| xx | I've seen testing centres closed over the last two days | 19:08 |
| camelia[m] | !help | 19:09 |
| camelia[m] | How do i give brainstorm commands? | 19:09 |
| xx | what commands are you looking for? | 19:09 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Qatar: +296 cases (now 248092), +1 deaths (now 615), +5602 tests (now 3.1 million) since a day ago | 19:09 |
| camelia[m] | i'd like to tell it show me updates for canada | 19:09 |
| xx | .cases canada | 19:10 |
| Brainstorm | xx: Canada has had 2.0 million confirmed cases (5.2% of all people) and 30203 deaths (1.5% of cases; 1 in 1257 people) as of 20 hours ago. 51.5 million tests were done (3.9% positive). 31.6 million were vaccinated (83.3%). +18992 cases since 23 hours ago. See https://resources-covid19canada.hub.arcgis.com/ | 19:10 |
| camelia[m] | .help | 19:11 |
| Brainstorm | camelia[m]: Hi, I am LjL's bot! Say %modules or %commands to me in private to see my features. | 19:11 |
| camelia[m] | Whats the command for this: | 19:13 |
| camelia[m] | Updates for Qatar: +296 cases (now 248092), +1 deaths (now 615), +5602 tests (now 3.1 million) since a day ago | 19:13 |
| camelia[m] | except canada | 19:13 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Germany hits goal in push for 30 million new vaccine shots → https://old.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/rp22cn/germany_hits_goal_in_push_for_30_million_new/ | 19:15 |
| xx | camelia[m]: that just might be a regular ticker, not a response to any command | 19:15 |
| camelia[m] | .deaths canada | 19:16 |
| LjL | It's shown as part of .cases... | 19:17 |
| camelia[m] | ohh like a feed | 19:17 |
| camelia[m] | xx: ticker? | 19:17 |
| camelia[m] | I assume it's possible to make brainstorm spit out a specifc country info | 19:17 |
| xx | yes, that's what `.cases quatar` does | 19:18 |
| camelia[m] | LjL: "+1 deaths (now 615)" is missing from .cases | 19:18 |
| LjL | camelia[m]: if it's missing its probably just because in the last update deaths were not reported | 19:34 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Latin America Is Now a World Leader in Vaccinations → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/rp2hqg/latin_america_is_now_a_world_leader_in/ | 19:34 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Canada: +9314 cases (now 2.0 million) since 23 hours ago | 19:34 |
| LjL | If I'm not mistaken the bot just puts the very latest update for a country into .cases as-is | 19:34 |
| LjL-Matrix | Anyone know about any brand of FFP2 or FFP3 available on EU Amazon that have around-the-ears straps and look like the classic () masks (I know that's not the best but my parents insist on those) and that have some kind of reliable lab certifying them? I'm lost in the amount of available ones that are all very Chinese-anonymous, I think I remember reading some of them have pictures showing legit labs certifying them, but I need to pick some | 19:38 |
| LjL-Matrix | quickly as they are becoming mandatory for some things here and so they are being sold out | 19:38 |
| LjL-Matrix | (Also yes I know being on EU Amazon doesn't necessarily mean they're on amazon.it in particular but what can I do) | 19:39 |
| LjL-Matrix | Also do you know if FFP3 tend to be much harder to breathe through than FFP2? I'd get FFP3 but my mom is very picky with feeling like she can't breathe... | 19:40 |
| xx | take it as an opportunity to strengthen your lungs | 19:41 |
| xx | diaphram or something | 19:41 |
| xx | I definitely breathe much better now than at the start of the pandemic | 19:41 |
| xx | the other issue with ffp3 is that unless the person wears it properly, there might be a higher chance of leaks around the face | 19:42 |
| xx | compared to ffp2 | 19:42 |
| xx | I've heard good things about breasafe on amazon.de | 19:43 |
| xx | they have ffp2 and ffp3 that look like regular masks | 19:43 |
| LjL-Matrix | Hmm not available on .it | 19:45 |
| xx | .de might deliver to IT | 19:45 |
| xx | they deliver to switzerland | 19:46 |
| xx | but overall I don't know of many brands made in EU, these ones are made in some eastern european country | 19:46 |
| LjL-Matrix | xx: oh they can be 3M or whatever, they don't have to be made in the EU, they can be Chinese too as long as tested somewhere half reliable. I just asked EU Amazon because worst case indeed I could buy from .de with a surcharge, but I just can't buy from .com | 19:51 |
| LjL-Matrix | I know 3M Aura are good and I've got some by my parents won't use them, same for some KF94, "they don't fit properly" | 19:51 |
| LjL-Matrix | So they need to be as similar to random Chinese masks as possible but I can't bring myself to actually just buy the first random mask I find | 19:52 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Will this pandemic ever end? Here's what happened with the last ones → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/rp2t4i/will_this_pandemic_ever_end_heres_what_happened/ | 19:53 |
| xx | the only 3m thing I have is this one https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B099F8ZKVC and I wear it regularly | 19:53 |
| xx | uh, not that, I mean https://www.amazon.it/dp/B00478E87W | 19:54 |
| xx | but yeah, in general, can't go wrong with 3M | 19:55 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Omicron Fears Outpacing Real World Risks For People Vaccinated, Boosted, Masked | MSNBC → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/rp30oj/omicron_fears_outpacing_real_world_risks_for/ | 20:02 |
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| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Pan-coronavirus "super" vaccine → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/rp382m/pancoronavirus_super_vaccine/ | 20:12 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Which workers have seen wage gains during the pandemic? → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/rp3e0q/which_workers_have_seen_wage_gains_during_the/ | 20:21 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Jamaica: +192 cases (now 92705), +1 deaths (now 2463) since 19 hours ago | 20:37 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Eric Topol (@EricTopol): Denmark's new cases reach >200/100,000, a level rarely (if ever) seen during the pandemic, Omicron impact. Recall Denmark tests more/capita than almost anywhereYes, deaths remain very low. Hospital admits ⬇️Prior sense of's turnaround was inaccurate d/t 2 days [... want %more?] → https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/1475188102033408000 | 20:50 |
| sdfgsdfg | first response to Eric Topol was from another credible epidemiologist from Denmark who corrects him to say the hospitalizations and deaths are rising fast, the chart doesn't have this latest data | 21:05 |
| hyrc | https://www.bitchute.com/video/OA27zgQhM31n/ Covid - For two pennies (putting the policy in perspective!) [00:03:30] | 21:06 |
| sdfgsdfg | this new "beginning of the end for pandemic" trend feels so stupid. Suddenly global media thinks there won't be a destructive variant of concern ever again and we are somehow at the end of this whole thing | 21:08 |
| edcba | so hadn't we enough time to determine whether omicron is dangerous ? | 21:08 |
| xx | we should start a bet on when the next variant comes out | 21:08 |
| xx | I'd say sometime during february | 21:08 |
| xx | let's make it 14th, it's gonna be a valentine-variant | 21:09 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Science: science: Scientists developed a needle-free COVID-19 vaccine in the form of a patch that slowly delivers the serum through the skin.This type of vaccine delivery is not only painless, but studies on mice also showed that the generated immune response [... want %more?] → https://old.reddit.com/r/science/comments/rp48dj/scientists_developed_a_needlefree_covid19_vaccine/ | 21:09 |
| sdfgsdfg | my bet is January 2023 | 21:09 |
| sdfgsdfg | after everyone's convinced that it's over | 21:09 |
| xx | everyone's been convinced it's over almost a year ago | 21:10 |
| sdfgsdfg | lol | 21:10 |
| edcba | well omicron variant seemed to originate from a guy thatwas keeping it warm long time enough in himself ? | 21:10 |
| sdfgsdfg | quite a lot of convinced that it never existed, it's like a dream | 21:10 |
| hyrc | the policy response is the problem | 21:10 |
| edcba | so i think you can't have a variant right awa, you need some divergence from main variant for another to appear | 21:10 |
| edcba | but if it can diverge in same host during a long time it's probably because it's not that lethal | 21:12 |
| edcba | problem is when host has better defenses than humans :p | 21:14 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Steve Miller (@SteveMillerOC): Not being a left-liberal or progressive person myself, I don’t allow this excuse for ignorant anti-vaccination sentiment.I don’t trust the left AT ALL.I understand that the covid vaccines are excellent and save lives, and that people who refuse [... want %more?] → https://twitter.com/SteveMillerOC/status/1475203158326398976 | 21:37 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for United States: +69872 cases (now 53.1 million), +21 deaths (now 837786) since 23 hours ago — France: +27697 cases (now 9.2 million), +96 deaths (now 123627) since a day ago — Canada: +26 cases (now 2.0 million) since 23 hours ago | 21:45 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Israeli hospital to begin study on efficacy of 4th COVID vaccine dose → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/rp59dd/israeli_hospital_to_begin_study_on_efficacy_of/ | 22:06 |
| Brainstorm | New from Reddit (test): CoronaVirus_2019_nCoV: Beleaguered hospitals warn patients, push back treatments amid Covid surge: It appears patients should once again prepare to delay treatments, procedures and operations as the omicron variant spreads. → https://old.reddit.com/r/CoronaVirus_2019_nCoV/comments/rp5u9s/beleaguered_hospitals_warn_patients_push_back/ | 22:15 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Marc Veldhoen (@Marc_Veld): Very good development is the enormous testing prior to Christmas, which will happen again prior to new years eve. It uncovered many, otherwise asymptomatic infections, which may look worrying, but it prevents the further spread and shows vaccines work! pic.twitter.com/4JNMd5pWBJ → https://twitter.com/Marc_Veld/status/1475217762616229896 | 22:43 |
| hyrc | boostershot -> additionalpoisonshot | 22:45 |
| xx | the worst poison is added sugar | 22:49 |
| xx | if I was dictator of the earth, added sugar would not be allowed | 22:49 |
| hyrc | i avoid it also | 22:49 |
| hyrc | is there any new research on spike protein distribution from the various jabs? | 22:50 |
| hyrc | around the body | 22:50 |
| xx | still waiting for conclusive info on that one, will probably take a while | 22:51 |
| hyrc | coroners of the jabbed have found lymphocytes everywhere | 22:52 |
| xx | yeah, the problem is that those people were dead | 22:57 |
| xx | which means something caused them to die, and that something might relate to a different distribution of spikes compared to healthy people | 22:58 |
| xx | we need enough healthy people hit by busses | 22:58 |
| xx | and we need to be sure that they were hit by busses completely by accident, not due to some underlying/undetected illness | 22:59 |
| hyrc | mhm. i also don't find any assay kits for s-protein itself, just antibodies | 22:59 |
| hyrc | seems like some sort of blot could be engineered for this | 22:59 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for India: +8017 cases (now 34.8 million) since 23 hours ago — Germany: +9121 cases (now 7.0 million), +56 deaths (now 111081) since 9 hours ago | 23:00 |
| hyrc | but what's a 'case' | 23:01 |
| xx | the numbers are and will be a mess for a while | 23:01 |
| xx | lack of access to testing, lack of open testing places, lack of bothering to get tested because celebrating/vacations, etc. | 23:02 |
| xx | expect testing numbers to get back to normal after new year | 23:02 |
| hyrc | well a positive pcr isn't a case of disease | 23:02 |
| hyrc | not by the pre-2020 standards | 23:02 |
| xx | well pcr detects coronavirus, not covid | 23:02 |
| hyrc | unfortunately the numbers everyone cites is positive pcr tests | 23:03 |
| Arsanerit | Why is that unfortunate? | 23:03 |
| Arsanerit | There are other numbers cited as well, such as hospitalisation rates, ICU occupancy, and death rates. | 23:03 |
| hyrc | because it includes asymptomatic people | 23:03 |
| Arsanerit | Why is it unfortunate to include asymptomatic people? | 23:03 |
| hyrc | because it's misleading | 23:04 |
| Arsanerit | No, it isn't. It measures the spread of the virus and enters into models to forecast hospitalisation rates. | 23:04 |
| hyrc | do you realize that no 'cases' were ever reported this way before the covid-19 event? | 23:04 |
| Arsanerit | That's because we have not had a comparable pandemic in modern times. | 23:05 |
| hyrc | just trying to be on the same planet with you | 23:05 |
| hyrc | so you agree that the standard for reporting a case of disease was changed | 23:05 |
| Arsanerit | The case rate is the first advance warning we have to estimate how many people are going to get sick in the near future. | 23:05 |
| Arsanerit | No, I don't. | 23:05 |
| hyrc | you just did, now you don't | 23:06 |
| Arsanerit | No, I didn't. | 23:06 |
| Arsanerit | The case positivity rate does not measure the spread of any disease. | 23:06 |
| Arsanerit | It can be used to forecast the prevelance of the disease, though. | 23:06 |
| Arsanerit | I don't know if there are measurements of how many people get sick, but there certainly are measurements of how many people are hospitalised due to COVID-19. | 23:06 |
| hyrc | a 'case' of the flu isn't a symptomless person who pings positive on a positive-pcr test at 40 cycles | 23:07 |
| hyrc | it's fraud | 23:07 |
| Arsanerit | There is no fraud. | 23:07 |
| Arsanerit | I don't know much about the virus causing the flu or if asymptomatic infection is common. Is it? | 23:07 |
| Arsanerit | The coronavirus spreads so well because there are many asymptomatic infections. | 23:08 |
| hyrc | pcr can be indicative of a viral load significant enough to show infection, if the cycle threshold is calculated properly, if the test is run properly, against controls | 23:08 |
| Arsanerit | Those people infected with coronavirus without symptoms can still infect others who then can get seriously ill, get a lifelong disability, or die. | 23:08 |
| hyrc | this isn't being done | 23:08 |
| Arsanerit | What isn't being done? | 23:09 |
| Arsanerit | I admit that I don't know what exactly the PCR labs are doing, but I don't think they're doing fraud. | 23:09 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: NY Pre-Christmas COVID Testing Delivers Record Total Just Shy of 50,000 Cases in Single Day → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/rp6qxk/ny_prechristmas_covid_testing_delivers_record/ | 23:11 |
| Arsanerit | If everyone infected got seriously ill within hours we wouldn't all this testing. | 23:12 |
| Arsanerit | It would also never have become a pandemic. | 23:12 |
| hyrc | There are several fundamental terms that have been corrupted ("redefined") in the Covid-19 event | 23:12 |
| hyrc | One is 'case' of disease | 23:13 |
| Arsanerit | I am not aware that the definition of a disease has been redefined. | 23:13 |
| hyrc | Another is 'death', which used to mean death from, and is now being tallied as 'death with'. | 23:13 |
| hyrc | Another is 'pandemic', which the WHO corrupted to mean any worldwide infectious disease; they dropped the qualifier for massive deaths caused by it. | 23:14 |
| Arsanerit | It's presented as "death from or which" here. Is there something wrong with that? | 23:14 |
| hyrc | I wonder what the statistics of death with acne are. | 23:14 |
| Arsanerit | What is your point? | 23:14 |
| Arsanerit | SARS-CoV-2 is infecting people worldwide, a subset of infected people get sick, some seriously so, and millions have died. | 23:15 |
| Arsanerit | If that's not a pandemic, then what is? | 23:15 |
| xx | ebola, if it happened in europe | 23:17 |
| xx | lets say among frankfurt airport employees | 23:17 |
| Arsanerit | Ebola did not spread worldwide. Or do you mean it would have spread worldwide if it had originated in Europe? | 23:17 |
| Arsanerit | Maybe it would have. We don't know. The real world does not have a control run. | 23:18 |
| xx | yeah, given how non-existent european people's hygiene habits are, if ebola happened to spread among some large airport employees, it would have been a total disaster and a pandemic | 23:18 |
| sdfgsdfg | do vaccines protect against long covid ? | 23:18 |
| Arsanerit | sdfgsdfg: mostly yes | 23:19 |
| xx | sdfgsdfg: not enough data on that yet | 23:19 |
| xx | we suspect it does, but it is not conclusive yet | 23:19 |
| Arsanerit | There are some pointers at https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/long-covid-chronic-fatigue-syndrome which someone here linked recently | 23:19 |
| Arsanerit | I don't know if that's the final conclusive answer. | 23:20 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Omicron grounds 1,000 more U.S. flights over Christmas weekend → https://old.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/rp6yc8/omicron_grounds_1000_more_us_flights_over/ | 23:21 |
| xx | I suspect if someone is part of the population that is likely to get long covid instead of short covid (and we don't know the cause yet), then being vaccinated will not be 100% protective, because something is already off with their immune system | 23:21 |
| sdfgsdfg | and the symptoms are so diverse that apparently even WHO is trying to reach a consensus on this, hmm | 23:28 |
| Arsanerit | nasty beast | 23:28 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Pandemic linked to more sleepless nights → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/rp74ms/pandemic_linked_to_more_sleepless_nights/ | 23:30 |
| xx | nasty people, spitting everywhere, coughing everywhere, ... | 23:30 |
| sdfgsdfg | 7 months after covid, persistence of memory issues was 50%, fatigue was 80% (lungs are irreversibly damaged) and speech issues 40% (central nervous system irreversible damage?). 7 months ! | 23:30 |
| hyrc | what's the study sdfgsdfg | 23:32 |
| Arsanerit | sdfgsdfg: that's 80% of those with long covid, not 80% of those with covid, isn't it? | 23:32 |
| sdfgsdfg | https://unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com/p/long-covid-chronic-fatigue-syndrome | 23:32 |
| Arsanerit | that's not the actual study, but that blog article links to the actual studies | 23:32 |
| sdfgsdfg | Arsanerit yes, of course | 23:32 |
| Arsanerit | Long covid was my biggest wear before I got vaccinated | 23:32 |
| hyrc | i don't see the baseline for those metrics (people who haven't 'had covid') | 23:33 |
| hyrc | ah there's a chart | 23:34 |
| sdfgsdfg | on an initial search on google you also see tons of headlines from early 2021 like: "Gene changes caused by Spike protein could explain long covid " | 23:34 |
| hyrc | good thing we're informed in this channel and not injecting ourselves with spike protein | 23:35 |
| hyrc | unfortunately the study didn't factor out covid + injected and covid - injected | 23:36 |
| hyrc | so there's a major flaw | 23:36 |
| Arsanerit | What is covid + injected and covid - injected? | 23:40 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Bahrain: +287 cases (now 279805), +39847 tests (now 7.9 million) since a day ago | 23:44 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/COVID19: COVID19: Attenuated fusogenicity and pathogenicity og SARS-CoV2- Omicron Variant → https://www.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/rp7rzt/attenuated_fusogenicity_and_pathogenicity_og/ | 23:49 |
| hyrc | School District in New York Sends out Email Warning Parents of Sudden Cardiac Arrest in Students Grades K-12 | 23:56 |
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