| Brainstorm | Updates for Argentina: +20263 cases (now 5.5 million), +31 deaths (now 117066), +70532 tests (now 27.5 million) since 23 hours ago | 00:03 |
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| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Welcome to Covid-19’s “junior year.” It’s not pretty. The physical and psychic consequences of the pandemic with no end are shaping up to be devastating. What are Americans to do? → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/rpzs3y/welcome_to_covid19s_junior_year_its_not_pretty/ | 00:11 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/COVID19: COVID19: Protective Effect of Melatonin Administration against SARS-CoV-2 Infection: A Systematic Review → https://www.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/rpzwiv/protective_effect_of_melatonin_administration/ | 00:20 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Marc Veldhoen (@Marc_Veld): This is now the 4th study providing very similar data! Omicron tropism to the lungs is indeed much reduced. Nature does deliver good news!biorxiv.org/content/10.110… pic.twitter.com/N8jH2NP1jh → https://twitter.com/Marc_Veld/status/1475607555678380035 | 00:30 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Yasmeen Abutaleb (@yabutaleb7): The CDC halved its recommended quarantine and isolation times as omicron surges to 5 days. It "reflects a growing reality we’re going to have to learn to live with COVID as a persistent risk, and can’t let it shut down society," @ScottGottliebMD says. [... want %more?] → https://twitter.com/yabutaleb7/status/1475609936898015238 | 00:39 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Ghana: +2521 cases (now 138957), +6 deaths (now 1280), +22983 tests (now 2.1 million) since a day ago — Antigua and Barb.: +23 cases (now 4259) since a day ago | 00:40 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: US halves coronavirus isolation guidelines as Omicron chaos spreads → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/rq0kig/us_halves_coronavirus_isolation_guidelines_as/ | 00:49 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: CDC cuts isolation time for asymptomatic COVID-19 cases to 5 days → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/rq0pmo/cdc_cuts_isolation_time_for_asymptomatic_covid19/ | 00:58 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Ivory Coast: +680 cases (now 64527), +4603 tests (now 1.2 million) since a day ago | 01:05 |
| sdfgsdfg | https://www.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/rpqhcc/the_omicron_b11529_sarscov2_variant_of_concern/ | 01:07 |
| sdfgsdfg | .title | 01:07 |
| Brainstorm | sdfgsdfg: From www.reddit.com: The omicron (B.1.1.529) SARS-CoV-2 variant of concern does not readily infect Syrian hamsters : COVID19 | 01:07 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Steve Miller (@SteveMillerOC): The statistics I am watching the most at this point are from Ontario Canada, where data from all cases still showsA 2-shot vaccine is associated with:92% less risk of hospitalization,97% less risk of ICU admission,compared to the [... want %more?] → https://twitter.com/SteveMillerOC/status/1475618338038419460 | 01:07 |
| sdfgsdfg | syrian hamsters might be the answer we've been looking for | 01:07 |
| xx | Arsanerit: even if it does, we have a smallpox vaccine, so it's not an issue | 01:18 |
| xx | sdfgsdfg: they don't have that much meat on them to fix global hunger | 01:19 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Omicron spreads global gloom over New Year's celebrations → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/rq1cgt/omicron_spreads_global_gloom_over_new_years/ | 01:27 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Australia: +10566 cases (now 320865), +6 deaths (now 2202) since 22 hours ago — Gabon: +1040 cases (now 39910), +1 deaths (now 288), +10558 tests (now 1.5 million) since 3 hours ago — Mayotte: +115 cases (now 21506) since 3 days ago | 01:30 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Donald Trump golf resorts claimed at least £3.3m in UK furlough support: Former US president’s two Scottish resorts claimed emergency support during Covid pandemic. → https://old.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/rq1jgl/donald_trump_golf_resorts_claimed_at_least_33m_in/ | 01:36 |
| sdfgsdfg | Steve Miller correlates the data from canada and quickly concludes that 2 doses of (which?) vaccine provides 92% protection | 01:36 |
| sdfgsdfg | sounds like another dumb doctor | 01:36 |
| sdfgsdfg | no context, no mention of what it protects against, no mention of timelines | 01:37 |
| sdfgsdfg | these so called doctors are just out there to write up sensationalist tweets and get a few more likes | 01:38 |
| Tuvix | I think it's somewhat too early to tell if 2-dose vaccination will remain highly protective against hospitalization/death though. We don't even really have a good picture of what that's going to do in places like the US/UK. | 01:38 |
| Tuvix | We know the protection against infection is greatly reduced, and that's also bad news for anyone those positive cases then go and infect, especially the at-risk including unvaccinated. | 01:38 |
| sdfgsdfg | https://indianexpress.com/article/cities/mumbai/73-omicron-patients-in-mumbai-hospital-vaccinated-with-2-doses-7689311/ | 01:41 |
| sdfgsdfg | let me do the same thing the Dumb doctor is doing | 01:41 |
| sdfgsdfg | "Till Wednesday, we had 30 Omicron patients. Twenty two of those were fully vaccinated while the remaining eight were partially immunised,” said Dr Balkrishna Adsul, the dean of Seven Hills Hospital which is the primary designated hospital to treat Omicron patients from Mumbai. " | 01:41 |
| sdfgsdfg | wow !! 100% of the hospitalisations in Mumbai are vaccinated people | 01:42 |
| sdfgsdfg | I just proved the dumb doctor wrong I guess | 01:42 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: COVID-19 data by state: Maps show impact of latest surge → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/rq1xq6/covid19_data_by_state_maps_show_impact_of_latest/ | 01:55 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Faroe Is.: +106 cases (now 5261), +1000 tests (now 633000) since 3 hours ago | 02:01 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Winter surge hits Alabama, as COVID cases more than double over holiday week → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/rq244x/winter_surge_hits_alabama_as_covid_cases_more/ | 02:04 |
| Tuvix | Looks like Alabama is also the 2nd least-vaccinated US state at 47.8%, ahead of only Wyoming at 47.1% | 02:07 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Marc Veldhoen (@Marc_Veld): CDC update 17/12/2021.Risk of SARS-COV-2 infection: 5x lower after vaccination, 10x after booster.Risk of COVID-19 dead: 14x less after vaccination, 20x less after boosting.covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tra… → https://twitter.com/Marc_Veld/status/1475637790188658688 | 02:23 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for United Kingdom: +67823 cases (now 12.3 million) since 7 hours ago | 02:33 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Michigan COVID: Here’s what to know Dec. 27, 2021 → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/rq35s4/michigan_covid_heres_what_to_know_dec_27_2021/ | 03:01 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Sint Maarten: +64 cases (now 4838) since 3 days ago | 03:04 |
| Brainstorm | New from Eric Topol on Substack: Eric Topol: Inching closer towards a variant-proof, pan- coronavirus vaccine → https://erictopol.substack.com/p/inching-closer-towards-a-variant | 03:20 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Canada: +37760 cases (now 2.0 million) since 7 hours ago | 03:29 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express: World: Brazil’s Bolsonaro says daughter, 11, will not get COVID-19 jab → https://indianexpress.com/article/world/brazils-bolsonaro-says-daughter-11-will-not-get-covid-19-jab-7693975/ | 03:30 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express: World: Fauci says US should consider air travel vaccine mandate as flights grounded → https://indianexpress.com/article/world/fauci-says-u-s-should-consider-air-travel-vaccine-mandate-as-flights-grounded-7693981/ | 03:39 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: CDC shortens recommended Covid-19 isolation and quarantine time → https://old.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/rq4e0q/cdc_shortens_recommended_covid19_isolation_and/ | 03:49 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: MTA Cuts Back Subway Service As Crews Face “Dramatic” Increase In COVID Rates → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/rq4our/mta_cuts_back_subway_service_as_crews_face/ | 04:08 |
| oerheks | global birdflu deads reported.. | 04:13 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: U.S. forces in Japan begin pre-departure virus tests of personnel → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/rq4y4r/us_forces_in_japan_begin_predeparture_virus_tests/ | 04:18 |
| LjL | oerheks, "global"? | 04:18 |
| oerheks | birds fly everywhere .. | 04:19 |
| xx | oerheks: not here, they get shot at the borders | 04:34 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Burundi: +2567 cases (now 26224) since 4 days ago — China: +219 cases (now 114162) since a day ago — Suriname: +90 cases (now 51683), +573 tests (now 167874) since 22 hours ago — Netherlands: +521 cases (now 3.1 million) since 11 hours ago | 04:37 |
| lastshell | oearheks is from the russia ? | 04:38 |
| lastshell | *oerheks ^ | 04:39 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Goldman Sachs plans to require Covid boosters, mandate twice weekly testing → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/rq5kq2/goldman_sachs_plans_to_require_covid_boosters/ | 04:56 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express: World: CDC recommends shorter Covid isolation, quarantine for all → https://indianexpress.com/article/world/cdc-recommends-shorter-covid-isolation-quarantine-for-all-7694020/ | 05:05 |
| sdfgsdfg | u seen how fast omicron is ending in SA ? | 05:06 |
| sdfgsdfg | they have almost no new daily cases now | 05:07 |
| sdfgsdfg | 2022 might be goood | 05:07 |
| sdfgsdfg | do we still need those special vaccination forces that ambush homes and jab peoples babies | 05:08 |
| LjL | ... | 05:09 |
| LjL | you may have noticed that other waves have done that, too | 05:09 |
| LjL | (especially in countries unlike the UK or US where measures were actually taken, in those countries instead they just kinda tapered down but not really) | 05:10 |
| LjL | i'm sure if you grep the logs you'll find plenty of me saying the swifter the peak, the swifter also it went back down, in most cases | 05:10 |
| sdfgsdfg | if this happened in U.S you would have people blasting each other with shotguns | 05:10 |
| sdfgsdfg | the door-to-door vaccination | 05:11 |
| LjL | who's even doing that anyway | 05:16 |
| sdfgsdfg | https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/lindsay-hoyle-government-boris-johnson-nadhim-zahawi-omicron-b1982466.html | 05:17 |
| sdfgsdfg | .title | 05:17 |
| Brainstorm | sdfgsdfg: From www.independent.co.uk: Door-to-door vaccination effort considered in bid to reach unjabbed – reports | The Independent | 05:17 |
| sdfgsdfg | of course it's not by force, they don't strangle you or something | 05:18 |
| sdfgsdfg | but still funny, get out - get out of my lawn with your vaccines mate. Jab someone else lol | 05:18 |
| sdfgsdfg | I bet my ass that pandemic will actually be over soon... in 2 months | 05:21 |
| Brainstorm | New from Reddit (test): CoronaVirus_2019_nCoV: COVID Positivity Rate in Louisiana Hits 20 Percent, Hospitalizations Double in One Week → https://old.reddit.com/r/CoronaVirus_2019_nCoV/comments/rq66wu/covid_positivity_rate_in_louisiana_hits_20/ | 05:24 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Belgium: +14760 cases (now 2.1 million), +69 deaths (now 28218) since 3 days ago — Honduras: +203 cases (now 379276), +2 deaths (now 10432), +2905 tests (now 1.1 million) since 4 days ago — India: +6358 cases (now 34.8 million), +293 deaths (now 480290), +1141910 tests (now 674.1 million) since 23 hours ago | 05:40 |
| LjL | sdfgsdfg, over as in actually over, or over as in governments will declare it over even though it isn't | 05:49 |
| LjL | (yes i realize "actually over" is hard to define) | 05:49 |
| user27 | isn't this a form of "everyone is going to get covid, so lets do herd immunity" | 06:01 |
| user27 | seems to be mentioned fairly often by the user | 06:01 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Waning protection from 2 doses shows need for COVID-19 boosters, says head of Ontario's science table → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/rq71qe/waning_protection_from_2_doses_shows_need_for/ | 06:02 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: NFL reports league-record 106 COVID cases Monday → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/rq774v/nfl_reports_leaguerecord_106_covid_cases_monday/ | 06:11 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Covid: France tightens restrictions amid Omicron surge → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/rq7b3q/covid_france_tightens_restrictions_amid_omicron/ | 06:21 |
| LjL | "SARS-CoV-2 and HIV-1 have similarities—notably both are RNA viruses—but there are important differences. As a retrovirus, HIV-1 can insert a copy of its RNA genome into the host’s DNA, making total eradication more difficult (However the COVID Delta variant has that ability of reproduction).[154]" | 06:33 |
| LjL | ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Management_of_HIV/AIDS ) | 06:33 |
| LjL | ... what? | 06:33 |
| LjL | !? | 06:33 |
| LjL | the cited study never even mentions Delta | 06:34 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for England, United Kingdom: +313364 cases (now 10.4 million), +143 deaths (now 128671) since 3 days ago — Illinois, United States: +55958 cases (now 2.1 million), +153 deaths (now 30021) since 3 days ago — Texas, United States: +53656 cases (now 4.5 million), +163 deaths (now 75485) since 3 days ago — Madrid, Spain: +40227 cases (now 1.1 million) since 4 days ago | 06:36 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Australia COVID numbers hit a peak as Omicron outbreak strains domestic politics → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/rq7m90/australia_covid_numbers_hit_a_peak_as_omicron/ | 06:40 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/COVID19: COVID19: Genomic surveillance reveals the emergence of SARS-CoV-2 Lineage A from Islamabad Pakistan → https://www.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/rq7t72/genomic_surveillance_reveals_the_emergence_of/ | 06:49 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express: World: Apple closes New York City stores to shoppers as Covid-19 cases rise → https://indianexpress.com/article/world/apple-closes-new-york-city-stores-to-shoppers-as-covid-19-cases-rise-7694131/ | 07:08 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Florian Krammer (@florian_krammer): Hamsters are also a really good animal model for SARS-CoV-2. twitter.com/TheAtlantic/st… → https://twitter.com/florian_krammer/status/1475709240908124160 | 07:17 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: A common risk factor for Alzheimer’s disease may predispose carriers to severe COVID-19 | University of Helsinki → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/rq8qju/a_common_risk_factor_for_alzheimers_disease_may/ | 07:36 |
| Brainstorm | New from MedicineNet: (news): Omicron Cases Pass U.S. Peak Seen With Delta, But With Fewer Hospitalizations → http://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp | 07:55 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Coronavirus News Live Updates: Covovax, Corbevax vaccines and Molnupiravir drug cleared for emergency use authorization → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/rq9qpp/coronavirus_news_live_updates_covovax_corbevax/ | 08:41 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Jeffrey Barrett (@jcbarret): New variant impels behaviour change (+/- gov't intervention) ➡️ R < 1 for old variant. Looks like Delta will go the way of Alpha and B.1.177 in England (though need to wait for holiday effect to wash out of data to be sure). This pattern more important than [... want %more?] → https://twitter.com/jcbarret/status/1475735413037875200 | 08:51 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Daily Discussion Thread | December 28, 2021: Please refer to our Wiki for more information on COVID-19 and our sub. You can find answers to frequently asked questions in our FAQ , where there is valuable information such as our: → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/rqajnl/daily_discussion_thread_december_28_2021/ | 09:19 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Delhi, India: +331 cases (now 1.4 million), +1 deaths (now 25106) since a day ago — Gujarat, India: +204 cases (now 829563), +1 deaths (now 10114) since a day ago — Jharkhand, India: +138 cases (now 350005) since a day ago — Chhattisgarh, India: +49 cases (now 1.0 million), +1 deaths (now 13598) since a day ago | 09:37 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Delta: Flight to Shanghai turned back because of COVID rules | AP News → https://old.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/rqaxkk/delta_flight_to_shanghai_turned_back_because_of/ | 09:38 |
| Brainstorm | New from StatNews: 10 lessons I’ve learned from the Covid–19 pandemic: Some things have gone surprisingly well, notably the rapid development of Covid vaccines and some therapeutics. But far more things have gone horribly wrong. → https://www.statnews.com/2021/12/28/10-lessons-ive-learned-from-the-covid-19-pandemic/ | 10:34 |
| Brainstorm | New from StatNews: STAT’s most memorable photos of 2021: In 2021, STAT's contributing photographers documented the continued devastation of Covid, the hope of new vaccines, and the stories of patients, providers, technology, and medicine that impacted our world. See… → https://www.statnews.com/2021/12/28/stat-most-memorable-photos-2021/ | 10:44 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Omicron pushes world's daily Covid cases to new record → https://old.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/rqc3hk/omicron_pushes_worlds_daily_covid_cases_to_new/ | 10:53 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Hong Kong to tighten air crew quarantine rules amid Omicron threat → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/rqc543/hong_kong_to_tighten_air_crew_quarantine_rules/ | 11:03 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Palau: +2 cases (now 10), +2897 tests (now 17775) since 22 days ago | 11:04 |
| Brainstorm | New from ProPublica: They Were the Pandemic’s Perfect Victims: by Duaa Eldeib ] ProPublica is a nonprofit newsroom that investigates abuses of power. Sign up to receive our biggest stories as soon as they’re published. By the time Cheryl Cosey learned she had COVID-19, she had gone three [... want %more?] → https://www.propublica.org/article/they-were-the-pandemics-perfect-victims#1216777 | 11:12 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Estonia: +980 cases (now 238079), +2 deaths (now 1918), +7958 tests (now 2.5 million) since a day ago | 11:29 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: China tightens Xi'an lockdown as city reports highest daily Covid-19 cases in nearly 2 years → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/rqco0h/china_tightens_xian_lockdown_as_city_reports/ | 11:32 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: In eastern Germany, pastors push for COVID-19 shots despite protests | AP News → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/rqcyfq/in_eastern_germany_pastors_push_for_covid19_shots/ | 11:50 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Omicron is ‘not the same disease’ as earlier Covid waves, says UK scientist | Omicron variant → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/rqddtl/omicron_is_not_the_same_disease_as_earlier_covid/ | 12:19 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Texas exhausts supply of monoclonal antibody treatment as omicron cases surge → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/rqdj9n/texas_exhausts_supply_of_monoclonal_antibody/ | 12:28 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Latvia: +1186 cases (now 272952), +22 deaths (now 4529), +9845 tests (now 5.6 million) since a day ago — Germany: +20019 cases (now 7.0 million) since 21 hours ago | 12:31 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Concerns raised over COVID-19 variant testing, reporting in Oklahoma → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/rqdkuv/concerns_raised_over_covid19_variant_testing/ | 12:38 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Nepal: +241 cases (now 827763), +2 deaths (now 11588), +8536 tests (now 4.8 million) since a day ago | 13:02 |
| Brainstorm | New from Politico: Coronavirus: Germany must protect people with disabilities in COVID triage, top court rules → https://www.politico.eu/article/germany-must-protect-disabled-people-against-discrimination-in-covid-19-triage-cases/ | 13:25 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Zambia: +3907 cases (now 238383), +7 deaths (now 3716), +11925 tests (now 2.9 million) since 23 hours ago — Malta: +1298 cases (now 48380) since a day ago | 13:34 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Canada's public health agency admits it tracked 33 million mobile devices during lockdown → https://old.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/rqf23v/canadas_public_health_agency_admits_it_tracked_33/ | 14:02 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Bangladesh: +397 cases (now 1.6 million), +1 deaths (now 28062), +18938 tests (now 11.4 million) since a day ago — Gibraltar: +77 cases (now 8297), +898 tests (now 445108) since 23 hours ago | 14:05 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/COVID19: COVID19: Is there a way to get project n95 deliveries in the U.K. → https://www.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/rqf7jf/is_there_a_way_to_get_project_n95_deliveries_in/ | 14:12 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Marc Veldhoen (@Marc_Veld): SARS-CoV-19 Moving to upper respiratory tract has effects on youger ones. Data is very clear.cnn.com/2021/09/07/hea… → https://twitter.com/Marc_Veld/status/1475814649559859200 | 14:21 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for UAE: +1846 cases (now 754911), +1 deaths (now 2160), +756579 tests (now 110.0 million) since 20 hours ago — Saudi Arabia: +602 cases (now 553921), +1 deaths (now 8873), +80804 tests (now 33.0 million) since 23 hours ago — Qatar: +367 cases (now 248802), +5916 tests (now 3.2 million) since a day ago — Guinea: +108 cases (now 31238), +886 tests (now 571842) since 13 hours ago | 14:30 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Cities around the world pare back New Year celebrations, again. → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/rqft15/cities_around_the_world_pare_back_new_year/ | 14:40 |
| Dredd | https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/astrazeneca-oxford-europe-fears-b1982611.html?amp | 14:43 |
| Dredd | .title | 14:43 |
| Brainstorm | Dredd: From www.independent.co.uk: Oxford AstraZeneca Covid-19 vaccine ‘preventing lagged rise in deaths’ | The Independent | 14:43 |
| Dredd | What do you think of this LjL @LjL:libera.chat ? | 14:43 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Taiwan reports 19 new COVID cases; karate team confirmed with Omicron → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/rqg03m/taiwan_reports_19_new_covid_cases_karate_team/ | 14:49 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Scott Gottlieb, MD (@ScottGottliebMD): Every state should be following @NedLamont and Connecticut’s lead and doing more to make high quality masks available to front line workers and people who are vulnerable to Covid. Mask quality matters if you’re using a mask to protect [... want %more?] → https://twitter.com/ScottGottliebMD/status/1475825738473517064 | 14:59 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Pandemic’s Hidden Toll: Millions in U.K. Await Treatment, but Not for Covid-19 → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/rqgczn/pandemics_hidden_toll_millions_in_uk_await/ | 15:09 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Science: science: Study finds probable deer-to-deer transmission of SARS-CoV-2 B.1.2, B.1.582, and B.1.596 viruses. No spillback to humans was observed, but these findings demonstrate that SARS-CoV-2 viruses have the capacity to transmit in US wildlife, potentially [... want %more?] → https://old.reddit.com/r/science/comments/rqgli8/study_finds_probable_deertodeer_transmission_of/ | 15:18 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/COVID19: COVID19: The Omicron variant is highly resistant against antibody-mediated neutralization – implications for control of the COVID-19 pandemic → https://www.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/rqgoh0/the_omicron_variant_is_highly_resistant_against/ | 15:28 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Sweden: +21247 cases (now 1.3 million), +722483 tests (now 14.9 million) since 4 days ago — United Kingdom: +67900 cases (now 12.3 million) since 20 hours ago | 15:32 |
| Brainstorm | New from Novavax: (news): Novavax and Serum Institute of India Receive Emergency Use Authorization for COVID-19 Vaccine in India → https://ir.novavax.com/2021-12-28-Novavax-and-Serum-Institute-of-India-Receive-Emergency-Use-Authorization-for-COVID-19-Vaccine-in-India | 15:37 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Eric Topol (@EricTopol): Big congrats to my friend @PeterHotez and @TexasChildrens for the approval of Corbevax, their low cost, recombinant protein subunit Covid vaccine in India zeenews.india.com/india/india-ap… → https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/1475838659517554690 | 15:47 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Eric Topol (@EricTopol): The data that supports the new @CDCgov 5 day isolation period without a negative test pic.twitter.com/eRIwgGFd01 → https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/1475841625637097477 | 15:57 |
| edcba | haha | 16:03 |
| xx | I was hoping it was gonna be something like that :D | 16:03 |
| edcba | there are probably some entities that have an extensive economic/etc simulation of US/world that can answer that kind of question though | 16:07 |
| edcba | but yeah hard to get some facts before it's useless | 16:07 |
| Brainstorm | New from Pfizer: Pfizer Invites Public to View and Listen to Webcast of February 8 Conference Call with Analysts: Anonymous (not verified) Tue, 12/28/2021 - 10:00 Tuesday, December 28, 2021 - 10:00am NEW YORK--(BUSINESS WIRE)-- Pfizer Inc. (NYSE: PFE) [... want %more?] → https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-release/press-release-detail/pfizer-invites-public-view-and-listen-webcast-february-8 | 16:16 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Josiah 'So Mild' Grindrod (@JT_Grindrod): There's no fucking conspiracy. They outright said why they shortened isolation. It's not a "dishonest interpretation" and there's 0 data to support the move.Fucking internet janitor bootlickers. → https://twitter.com/JT_Grindrod/status/1475848929430302721 | 16:25 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express: World: South Africa study suggests Omicron could displace Delta → https://indianexpress.com/article/world/omicron-delta-variant-covid-19-study-7695066/ | 16:35 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Scott Gottlieb, MD (@ScottGottliebMD): London and New York City: New Covid cases and New Covid Hospitalizations - #Omicron versus prior waves. On a relative basis, Hospitalizations are well below what was seen in prior Covid waves. pic.twitter.com/FaUyySGuLO → https://twitter.com/ScottGottliebMD/status/1475853849684586497 | 16:45 |
| Brainstorm | New from Reddit (test): China_Flu: Protective Effect of Melatonin Administration against SARS-CoV-2 Infection: A Systematic Review → https://old.reddit.com/r/China_Flu/comments/rqinbr/protective_effect_of_melatonin_administration/ | 16:54 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Hugh Hewitt (@hughhewitt): Great news and reflects the (tentative) consensus that Omicron is less deadly. BUT those who are very sick or dying from any version of Covid are overwhelmingly the unvaccinated or those who skipped boosters. Don’t be a prisoner to sunk costs and prior [... want %more?] → https://twitter.com/hughhewitt/status/1475856346843172876 | 17:04 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Omicron variant largely resistant to current antibodies → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/rqiycx/omicron_variant_largely_resistant_to_current/ | 17:13 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: London Covid cases by borough: One in 50 test positive with capital’s rate double the UK average → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/rqj2pw/london_covid_cases_by_borough_one_in_50_test/ | 17:23 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Switzerland: +13591 cases (now 1.3 million) since 23 hours ago — Netherlands: +9440 cases (now 3.1 million), +25 deaths (now 21218) since 23 hours ago — Cuba: +145 cases (now 965002), +15547 tests (now 11.6 million) since 22 hours ago | 17:31 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Eric Topol (@EricTopol): Omicron and an expanded Y-axis pic.twitter.com/oqXuqMoG2a → https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/1475865492732538881 | 17:32 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Josiah 'So Mild' Grindrod (@JT_Grindrod): Apparently policy makers know less about coronavirus evolution than I, an idiot on twitter, do. → https://twitter.com/JT_Grindrod/status/1475867324645351428 | 17:42 |
| xx | policy makes don't even believe in existence of viruses | 17:45 |
| xx | *makers | 17:45 |
| xx | 'virus' is just something scribbled on a post-it note or a cue card | 17:46 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Grichka death: Bogdanoff twin 'dies of Covid-19' aged 72 → https://old.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/rqjt42/grichka_death_bogdanoff_twin_dies_of_covid19_aged/ | 17:51 |
| Dredd | 1 in 50 in London are testing positive right now | 17:57 |
| Dredd | Crazy | 17:57 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Italy: new record with 78,313 new cases today; 202 the daily deaths → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/rqjye0/italy_new_record_with_78313_new_cases_today_202/ | 18:00 |
| xx | Dredd: doesn't sound crazy, that's only 2% | 18:01 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Greece: +21732 cases (now 1.1 million), +61 deaths (now 20557) since 23 hours ago — Portugal: +17172 cases (now 1.3 million), +19 deaths (now 18909), +234759 tests (now 25.5 million) since a day ago — Montenegro: +1120 cases (now 165074), +3 deaths (now 2398), +4332 tests (now 961836) since 22 hours ago | 18:02 |
| frumious | more than 10% in my US state | 18:05 |
| frumious | New Jersey is somehow 94% which I do not understand | 18:05 |
| frumious | this, according to divoc-91 | 18:06 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: COVID: Number of people with coronavirus in hospital in England rises to 9,546 → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/rqk4eu/covid_number_of_people_with_coronavirus_in/ | 18:10 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Steve Miller (@SteveMillerOC): The pandemic has mostly confirmed my priors that government gets in the way more than it helps.This is especially true at the moment with booster shots illegal for my early teenage children.Get the FDA the F out of our way. Legalize booster shots now. [... want %more?] → https://twitter.com/SteveMillerOC/status/1475881673820491779 | 18:38 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Italy: +78300 cases (now 5.8 million), +202 deaths (now 136955), +1034677 tests (now 136.7 million) since a day ago — Canada: +59418 cases (now 2.1 million) since 23 hours ago | 18:39 |
| Brainstorm | New from Reddit (test): Tuesday 28 December 2021 Update: submitted by /u/HippolasCage to r/CoronavirusUK → https://old.reddit.com/r/CoronavirusUK/comments/rqkynk/tuesday_28_december_2021_update/ | 18:48 |
| LjL | Lombardy has nearly 30k cases today out of 78k Italy-wide, and the region together with some other ones jas exceeded 15% ICU occupation also which means we'll move to yellow alert. but that's ridiculous, aside from yellow meaning little difference, we have to wait until Monday for that to happen because it only triggers on Mondays. And initially there was supposed to be 21 parameters or some such high number to determine alert level, but in reality I don't think now | 18:56 |
| LjL | anything is being used except number of ICU beds occupied, which for obvious reasons is a late indicator | 18:56 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: COVID: England reports record number of daily coronavirus cases with 117,093 → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/rql7k6/covid_england_reports_record_number_of_daily/ | 18:57 |
| LjL-Matrix | <Dredd> "1 in 50 in London are testing..." <- Does that mean 1 out of every 50 tests (which wouldn't be a lot) or literally 1 every 50 Londoners today? I'm afraid I know the answer but | 18:59 |
| LjL-Matrix | Also I saw you highlighted me with something earlier but I can't find it on phone, I guess I'll figure it out when I drag myself to the computer | 19:00 |
| LjL-Matrix | Hmm it would be nice if one could add "bookmarks" on Element | 19:01 |
| LjL-Matrix | %tell ljl reminder: add Novavax India authorization | 19:02 |
| Brainstorm | LjL-Matrix, I'll pass LjL your message when they are around. | 19:02 |
| xx | if a medical doctor actually prescribes ivermectin, unprompted, should the patient take it or just ignore it? | 19:02 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Morocco: +1184 cases (now 957594), +5 deaths (now 14837), +17788 tests (now 10.8 million) since a day ago | 19:04 |
| LjL | xx, i guess you may hear different opinions on compliance with doctor advice... in my opinion the patient should nearly always have the last word, it's their body. so if doctor *won't* prescribe something, well it's their body but it's not their drug, but if the doctor does, you still should agree | 19:06 |
| xx | guess it's the same as doctors prescribing antibiotics for whatever | 19:10 |
| xx | also hasn't been shown to work against covid | 19:10 |
| xx | but sure works against associated bacterial infections | 19:10 |
| LjL | xx, at first at least when the covid focus was squarely on pneumonia, antibiotics were the *only' therapy routinely used in italy | 19:13 |
| LjL | for people who're at home there's still no real therapy except "call ambulance if sats go below 92%, oh don't have a pulse oximeter? go outside and buy one, oh wait you can't" | 19:13 |
| xx | yeah I don't see the hate against ivermectin, it might not do anything for covid, but is a safe medicine to take anyway, and might at least get rid of the parasitic infections that a lot of people have (due to eating poorly cooked meat/fish etc.) | 19:14 |
| xx | plus the placebo effect probably does something too | 19:15 |
| xx | rather than telling people to sit at home and wait for death | 19:15 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: CDC: 75 Cruise Ships Under Monitoring or More Over COVID Outbreaks → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/rqlizh/cdc_75_cruise_ships_under_monitoring_or_more_over/ | 19:16 |
| Tuvix | Suggesting people take drugs with clinical side-effects, even in human-appropriate doses unlike the overdose deaths from unperscribed "DIY" attempts, seems to be a really bad idea. | 19:19 |
| Tuvix | Then again, you seem to like trolling bad ideas here, so par for the course I guess. | 19:20 |
| xx | you have an odd view of me | 19:20 |
| Brainstorm | New from StatNews: Pharma: STAT/Harris Poll: Vaccinated Americans far more likely to take Pfizer Covid-19 pill than unvaccinated people → https://www.statnews.com/pharmalot/2021/12/28/covid19-vaccine-pill-pfizer-fda/ | 19:26 |
| Dredd | Ivermectin is pretty toxic at higher doses | 19:26 |
| Tuvix | Sure, that's why documented deaths from those taking doses for much larger animals are documented. Side-effects are potentially serious even in human-doses too. | 19:27 |
| Tuvix | "While our results do not put in question ivermectin’s excellent safety profile, they show that as for all drugs, appropriate pharmacovigilance for adverse reactions is indicated." Source: https://dx.doi.org/10.1371%2Fjournal.pntd.0009354 | 19:28 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for United Kingdom: +60925 cases (now 12.3 million) since 23 hours ago | 19:29 |
| LjL | xx, if you're aiming for placebo effect, might as well give them homeopathy :P | 19:30 |
| LjL | but there's some debate over the extent of the placebo effect anyway, i don't have a particular source but i was reading about it a while ago, and it's not *entirely* clear that it has actual physiological effects that go beyond having a better outlook and noticing more positive things than negative and such | 19:31 |
| LjL | Tuvix, i wouldn't say you have an odd view of him but i'm afraid i suspect he really thinks most of those things :P | 19:32 |
| LjL | but indeed it's not typically considered ethical to give patients potentially harmful things while only aiming for the placebo effect (in fact i'm not sure it's considered ethical to aim for the placebo effect in general, unless you're in a trial or you're using something that also has some plausible positive physiological effects) | 19:33 |
| Brainstorm | New from BBC Health: (news): Covid: Enjoy new year but be cautious, care minister says → https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-59810878 | 19:35 |
| LjL | "care minister" | 19:37 |
| LjL | be careful, he said | 19:37 |
| LjL | a job done | 19:37 |
| xx | that's right, can't be a troll if I genuinely think what I say :p | 19:39 |
| xx | insane on the other hand... | 19:39 |
| LjL | exactly! | 19:40 |
| xx | what's a care minister anyway? | 19:41 |
| xx | normally I'd guess it's short for 'healthcare' but it doesn't appear to be the case | 19:41 |
| Brainstorm | New from CIDRAP: Medicare data spotlight deadly impact of COVID-19 on Hispanics: Jim Wappes | Editorial Director | CIDRAP News Dec 28, 2021 The pandemic also widened pre-existing racial and ethnic disparities in non-COVID hospitalizations among Medicare patients. → https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2021/12/medicare-data-spotlight-deadly-impact-covid-19-hispanics | 19:45 |
| LjL | it caught my attention enough to joke about it, but not enough to look up what it is | 19:52 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/COVID19: COVID19: Severe Glutathione Deficiency, Oxidative Stress and Oxidant Damage in Adults Hospitalized with COVID-19: Implications for GlyNAC (Glycine and N-Acetylcysteine) Supplementation → https://www.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/rqmf9e/severe_glutathione_deficiency_oxidative_stress/ | 19:54 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Sao Tome and Principe: +31 cases (now 3790) since a day ago | 20:00 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: They Were the Pandemic’s Perfect Victims | The pandemic killed so many dialysis patients that their total number shrunk for the first time in nearly half a century. Few people took notice. → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/rqmhdz/they_were_the_pandemics_perfect_victims_the/ | 20:04 |
| Arsanerit | 2021-12-28 01:18:36##covid-19: < xx> Arsanerit: even if it does, we have a smallpox vaccine, so it's not an issue | 20:13 |
| Arsanerit | xx: That's a good joke :-D | 20:13 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Delta turned flight around mid-air, saying China's new Covid cleaning rules are unworkable → https://old.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/rqmwwa/delta_turned_flight_around_midair_saying_chinas/ | 20:13 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Fears of Omicron’s Rapid Spread Are Tempered by Signs of Milder Illness → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/rqn0yh/fears_of_omicrons_rapid_spread_are_tempered_by/ | 20:23 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Vaccine created in Houston gets emergency use authorization in India → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/rqn5ts/vaccine_created_in_houston_gets_emergency_use/ | 20:32 |
| xx | Arsanerit: why would it be a joke? | 20:34 |
| xx | you think antivaxx wouldn't take that vaccine? | 20:34 |
| xx | it's a disease that actually kills people | 20:34 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for France: +75335 cases (now 9.3 million) since 23 hours ago — Cameroon: +691 cases (now 109367) since a day ago — Netherlands: +9193 cases (now 3.1 million) since 21 hours ago | 20:38 |
| Brainstorm | New from Gazzetta Ufficiale italiana: MINISTERO DELLE INFRASTRUTTURE E DELLA MOBILITA' SOSTENIBILI - DECRETO 25 novembre 2021: Modalita' attuative per la compensazione dei danni subiti a causadell'emergenza da COVID-19 dai gestori aeroportuali e dai prestatoridi servizi aeroportuali di assistenza a terra. (21A07635) → http://www.gazzettaufficiale.it/eli/id/2021/12/28/21A07635/SG | 20:42 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/COVID19: COVID19: COVID-19: Azelastine nasal spray Reduces Virus-load In Nasal swabs (CARVIN). Early intervention with azelastine nasal sprays reduces viral load in SARS-CoV-2 infected patients. First report on a double-blind placebo-controlled phase II clinical trial. → https://www.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/rqnniy/covid19_azelastine_nasal_spray_reduces_virusload/ | 20:51 |
| Arsanerit | xx: If you put a gun on their head, *maybe*. I've seen letters from people who wrote they would commit suicide if it came to mandatory vaccinations. | 20:57 |
| Arsanerit | (The newspaper where I saw it should not have published it, and later admitted and apologised for publishing the letter in that form.) | 20:57 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Steve Miller (@SteveMillerOC): Despite more Omicron cases in Ontario Canada on Dec 28, no change in these stats:92.2% less risk of hospitalization97.0% less risk of ICU admissioncompared to unvaccinated.But risk of infection falls to only 11.6% less (from 14.9% less yesterday) [... want %more?] → https://twitter.com/SteveMillerOC/status/1475918534639190016 | 21:01 |
| xx | if they commit suicide *successfully* it would save a lot of resources for the healthcare system | 21:04 |
| ublx | ugh | 21:05 |
| ublx | see you tomorrow, xx | 21:06 |
| Tuvix | Arsanerit: The irony being that in many places vaccines are already (effectively) mandatory, and the uptake on vaccines like Measles is quite high. COVID-19 is just the latest excuse to push an anti-vax agenda that's been present but not really a nation-wide problem until now :\ | 21:07 |
| Arsanerit | (the letter in question was from a nurse, if it was real) | 21:09 |
| Arsanerit | Tuvix: this is true, either through schools or through military service many places have effective mandatory vaccines already | 21:10 |
| Tuvix | Yea, I've seen some in medical care (usually nurses, less often doctors) protesting employer-required vaccinations. On the other hand, you really can't have your staff both more likely to catch (and thus be on mandatory leave) or at higher risk of catching/spreading it to patients. | 21:10 |
| Arsanerit | I am not sure if such employer requirements are still proportional when vaccines poorly protect against infection, meaning vaccinated people are almost as likely to get infected as unvaccinated people, assuming they behave the same. | 21:13 |
| Arsanerit | Are vaccinated asymptomatic infected people less likely to spread the virus than unvaccinated asymptomatic infected people? | 21:13 |
| Arsanerit | It seems that if we mandate vaccines now, it's to prevent overloading healthcare, not to reduce the spread of the virus itself. | 21:14 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Scott Gottlieb, MD (@ScottGottliebMD): Update from FDA which recently performed preliminary studies evaluating performance of some antigen tests using patient samples containing live virus — the early data suggests that antigen tests do detect omicron variant but may have reduced [... want %more?] → https://twitter.com/ScottGottliebMD/status/1475923354007875589 | 21:20 |
| Tuvix | My understanding is both the viral load is reduced, and with at least _some_ protection from infection, that'll reduce numbers. It's also a good way to reduce the odds one of your employees is hospitalized and possibly dies, which seems good for business. | 21:21 |
| Arsanerit | That is good business yes. | 21:21 |
| Tuvix | But it's also hard for employers to add requirements which might be unpopular; that's sort of where government could play a bigger role, like NYC is doing city-wide. At least then it's not the employer's being the "bad guy" with requirements. | 21:21 |
| Arsanerit | But to justify what is a significant invasion of personal freedom, one might need a stronger justification than "good business". | 21:22 |
| Arsanerit | I do think mandatory vaccines can be justified, but I think "it's good business not to have our employees die" may not be the right justification. | 21:22 |
| Arsanerit | I prefer such mandates to apply independently of employement status, if at all. | 21:23 |
| Tuvix | The trick there is enforcement. It works for school-age kids because you can require it as a condition of enrollment in congregate learning. | 21:23 |
| Arsanerit | freedoom! | 21:34 |
| Arsanerit | It also works in countries with military service. My antivax colleague did do military service at the time, when one morning they were simply told to line up for their vaccinations and they obeyed, because obeying is what you do in the military. | 21:34 |
| Tuvix | Yea, and largely the same applies to private-sector workers. Look at United Airlines, and while they had a very small minority refuse, most did not, even the ones protesting loudly about it. | 21:36 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Turkey: +32176 cases (now 9.4 million), +184 deaths (now 81917) since a day ago — Albania: +475 cases (now 208352), +6 deaths (now 3207) since 19 hours ago — Germany: +25131 cases (now 7.1 million), +388 deaths (now 111679) since 23 hours ago — Canada: +5 deaths (now 30234) since 23 hours ago | 21:40 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Tom Peacock (@PeacockFlu): Just to add to this thread as there's further similar reports... True recombinants don't tend to appear until a few weeks/months after there's been substancial co-circulation - we're only a couple of weeks into Omicron - I really doubt there are any prevelent [... want %more?] → https://twitter.com/PeacockFlu/status/1475928935745699840 | 21:49 |
| -RSSBot[LjLmatrix- Zotero / COVID links Group / Top-Level Items: Novavax and Serum Institute of India Receive Emergency Use Authorization for COVID-19 Vaccine in India - Dec 28, 2021 ( https://www.zotero.org/groups/covid_links/items/KD8VFFVM ) | 22:07 | |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Finland: Covid vaccinations progressing well, THL says → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/rqpabz/finland_covid_vaccinations_progressing_well_thl/ | 22:08 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Covid Live Updates: C.D.C. Lowers Estimate of Omicron’s Prevalence in U.S. → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/rqpk2m/covid_live_updates_cdc_lowers_estimate_of/ | 22:17 |
| LjL-Matrix | <Dredd> "What do you think of this LjL @..." <- I think that there may be a bit of a media operation in place to "rehabilitate" AZ in the UK. I say this because I remember just a few days ago something from AZ on how a booster with AZ may be pretty great — which AZ must definitely find a way to say since otherwise boosters are all Pfizer and Moderna. So while the claims may be justified and I really can't know, I'm naturally skeptical by | 22:18 |
| LjL-Matrix | default because the UK was always very invested in the Oxford/AZ vaccine and they "need" to continue using it | 22:18 |
| LjL-Matrix | it says: He added: “I personally believe that’s because most of our vulnerable people were given the AstraZeneca vaccine.” | 22:18 |
| LjL-Matrix | I say, well, you shouldn't "personally believe it" at this point, there should be clear studies in the UK that show the outcome in people who had AZ vs people who had Pfizer/BNT or Moderna | 22:18 |
| LjL-Matrix | but they need to be normalized/matched by age, etc, since there were clear difference | 22:19 |
| LjL-Matrix | and I've never really seen the UK do reports accounting for those differences properly. I've always felt like they didn't really want to "over"-clarify the difference between AZ and mRNA vaccines | 22:19 |
| LjL-Matrix | So in summary: may be true, may not be, but definitely should be on more solid grounds than "I personally believe" in 2022. | 22:20 |
| LjL-Matrix | (Also I think much of the "mine works better" struggle between AZ and the other always revolved around T-cells response because that's the trickier thing to measure compared to antibody levels where mRNA vaccines just had a clear edge) | 22:21 |
| LjL-Matrix | s/other/others/ | 22:21 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Michael Lin, PhD-MD (@michaelzlin): People in positions of authority should keep up with the science and then use that authority to promote policies that will end the epidemic safelylike boosterslike maskslike avoiding the ineffective and potentially dangerous molnupiravir → https://twitter.com/michaelzlin/status/1475935632018919428 | 22:26 |
| Tuvix | I debated a bit about my 3rd booster dose (Pfizer for all 3 now) but concluded that it's not a huge differnece between the mRNA options available here and figured I'd stick with what I originally got without compelling reason to do otherwise. | 22:30 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Mozambique: +3473 cases (now 175648), +3 deaths (now 1976), +7294 tests (now 1.1 million) since a day ago — Cyprus: +2241 cases (now 154926) since a day ago — Aruba: +454 cases (now 18350) since a day ago — Kuwait: +329 cases (now 415678), +17690 tests (now 5.9 million) since 22 hours ago | 22:30 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: South Africa jubilant as Omicron wave subsides rapidly with minimal Covid hospital admissions and Delta killed off: 'Expect the same in other countries' → https://old.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/rqq0j9/south_africa_jubilant_as_omicron_wave_subsides/ | 22:36 |
| LjL-Matrix | "There are currently no restrictions in South Africa. Apart from a midnight-5am curfew, restaurants, shops, cinemas, bars and gyms are all open, both indoors as well as outdoors." <- that doesn't sound like no restriction to me :p | 22:42 |
| sdfgsdfg | when I look at the map all the national covid case number circles are smaller than what they were before | 22:44 |
| sdfgsdfg | only the UK circle is still covering half of eu | 22:45 |
| sdfgsdfg | in europe at least | 22:45 |
| sdfgsdfg | and thaat's..... good news I guess | 22:45 |
| Arsanerit | what does it mean, aa UK circle covering half of EU? | 22:45 |
| sdfgsdfg | a link will safe you from this confusion | 22:46 |
| sdfgsdfg | save* | 22:47 |
| sdfgsdfg | wait, let me help | 22:47 |
| sdfgsdfg | https://news.google.com/covid19/map | 22:48 |
| Tuvix | I'm paying a bit more attention to hospital admission and healthcare stress rates than I am raw cases, although the US seems poised to break it's winter 2020 record in 7-day average cases before the new year is out yet with hospital admissions going up. Hotspots are localized, with areas like NYC getting a bad blast of it now, plus some other northern areas still seeing a lot of delta + winter impact. | 22:49 |
| * enyc meows | 22:51 | |
| Tuvix | The uptick in both cases & covid-specific hospital admissions here nation-wide pre-dates omicron: https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#trends_dailycases_newhospitaladmissions | 22:51 |
| enyc | current puzzle friend having is -- What counts as reusable, over-used, etc... FFP2/FFP3/N95 masks | 22:51 |
| enyc | like... can you sensibly get a washable/reusable FFP2 or better ? | 22:52 |
| enyc | and.... 'what counts as a use' for non-reusable, anyhow? What if you want a lot of short-uses etc etc | 22:52 |
| Tuvix | Don't wash, but you can dry out (ideally in a paper bag or similar to prevent dust buildup) masks and use them again. The CDC has some guidance on that intended for healthcare workers, but the public can use it too. | 22:52 |
| Tuvix | Most N95 style masks are "intended" as single-use only, but re-use is a necessity when supply doesn't let you take a new one each time. Or for individuals, cost probably, since they don't have an employer doing the purchasing. | 22:52 |
| Tuvix | enyc: Here's the N95 "Shortage" guidlines from the CDC anyway: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/ppe-strategy/decontamination-reuse-respirators.html | 22:53 |
| Tuvix | Better would be masks with high-quality replacable filters (meltblown, electrostatically charged with filtration down to about 0.1 micron >= 95% effective) but that'll also cost more than shorter-term use masks. | 22:54 |
| Tuvix | Both to buy and to keep a replacement stock of filters on-hand. | 22:55 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: What to do about the UK’s unvaccinated? No 10’s Covid dilemma → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/rqq9ir/what_to_do_about_the_uks_unvaccinated_no_10s/ | 22:55 |
| enyc | Tuvix: passed on link, thankyou. Used to respirators for attic/dusty work etc but they are outflow-valve ... | 22:56 |
| Tuvix | Heh, that's every government's problem, but I suppose Downing St. only has to worry about the UK. | 22:56 |
| Tuvix | Yea, the valve isn't useful to protect others, which is a big part of the game with COVID. | 22:56 |
| Tuvix | Maybe a surgical mask over the valve-mask? But ideally an N95 or even KN95 without a valve would probably be a better choice if it's for short enough periods to support removal to dry out from being worn. | 22:57 |
| Tuvix | And if it's for long-periods the reality is that you'll need to replace them periodically anyway to get proper use & filteration from them. | 22:57 |
| Tuvix | Here's the tl;dr from that link: "CDC recommends limiting the number of donnings for an N95 FFR to no more than five per device. It may be possible to don some models of FFRs more than five times [2]. One study reported that fit performance decreased over multiple, consecutive donnings and fit varied among the different models of FFRs examined [3]." | 22:58 |
| Tuvix | Keep in mind this is intended for medical professionals who are proabaly wearing them longer than stay a run into a grocery store or w/e. | 22:58 |
| Dredd | LjL @LjL:libera.chat: yeah I remember there being studies of the population that showed AZ waned faster | 23:04 |
| Brainstorm | New from CIDRAP: Shortened CDC COVID isolation guide draws sharply mixed reviews: Lisa Schnirring | News Editor | CIDRAP News Dec 28, 2021 The new guidance comes at a turbulent time with surging case numbers, unmet testing demand, and uncertainties about Omicron. → https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2021/12/shortened-cdc-covid-isolation-guide-draws-sharply-mixed-reviews | 23:05 |
| Dredd | But I can't remember if they actually measured outcomes or severe progressions or just positive tests or antibody titers | 23:05 |
| Dredd | Does anyone else want to tell Lin to shut up at this point? There's truth to what he says but it's also dripping in bias | 23:06 |
| Dredd | And he's a broken record at this point | 23:06 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Ethiopia: +5185 cases (now 405745), +7 deaths (now 6911), +13280 tests (now 4.1 million) since a day ago — Lebanon: +2280 cases (now 715950), +15 deaths (now 9072) since 21 hours ago — Spain: +99671 cases (now 6.0 million), +114 deaths (now 89253) since 23 hours ago — French Guiana: +299 cases (now 47631), +1 deaths (now 338), +1798 tests (now 485514) since a day ago | 23:07 |
| sdfgsdfg | .cases uk | 23:13 |
| Brainstorm | sdfgsdfg: United Kingdom has had 12.4 million confirmed cases (18.7% of all people) and 148488 deaths (1.2% of cases; 1 in 447 people) as of 2 hours ago. 395.6 million tests were done (3.1% positive). 51.7 million were vaccinated (77.8%). +60925 cases since 23 hours ago. See https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/ | 23:13 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Marc Veldhoen (@Marc_Veld): A masterclass how to tackle the pandemic on a national scale?Enormous effort to get SARS-CoV-2 under control, and with great progress. Not entirely there yet, but getting there! pic.twitter.com/zq7Ygk1UFj → https://twitter.com/Marc_Veld/status/1475951433858101251 | 23:14 |
| sdfgsdfg | "some patients are experiencing these types of COVID-related issues a year or more after contracting the virus" | 23:16 |
| sdfgsdfg | wait what ? long covid appears a long time after the patient contracted the virus, regardless of they have mild symptoms or not ???? | 23:16 |
| sdfgsdfg | I was casually reading this random aljazeera article https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2021/12/26/a-world-forever-transformed-life-with-long-covid | 23:17 |
| Tuvix | In some, yea. A new study (not yet peer-reviewed, so "very new") also suggests that the virus may be retained in various internal organs for months, and may even lead to a rise in lifelong side-effects. | 23:17 |
| Tuvix | It's a bit early to say for sure if that's the case, but a study suggesting it is still quite concerning, most notably of course for anyone yet unvaccinated. | 23:18 |
| sdfgsdfg | that would be really scary if omicron caused more of this ? | 23:18 |
| sdfgsdfg | sneaky stuff | 23:18 |
| sdfgsdfg | hmmmm | 23:18 |
| Tuvix | Right, although _maybe_ the possible reduced impact to the vaccinated will help temper that. The reality is we won't really know until more studies and, sadly, more infections with side effects result. | 23:18 |
| Tuvix | Omicron still sucks even *if* slightly-less-severe because of how readily it spreads. | 23:19 |
| ecks | sweet, already got two friends bailing from new years eve celebrations due to being ill | 23:19 |
| ecks | love to see it | 23:19 |
| sdfgsdfg | exactly the same, 3 friends and their girlfriends got sick. That's what happens if you party at the peak of a virus lol | 23:19 |
| sdfgsdfg | they really don't seem to care much | 23:20 |
| ecks | none of my friends have tested positive yet, at least | 23:20 |
| Tuvix | I'll be pouring a glass late Friday with 2 felines and no other mammals. | 23:21 |
| ecks | looks like i have to activate plan B, aka drinking alone, as well | 23:21 |
| Tuvix | My cats are both entertained and mildly entertaining if I have a champagne cork that comes off ;) | 23:22 |
| ecks | oh well, still got a few friends who are go | 23:26 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for India: +8376 cases (now 34.8 million), +30 deaths (now 480320) since 17 hours ago — Guatemala: +597 cases (now 625854), +1 deaths (now 16099), +7311 tests (now 3.3 million) since a day ago — Curacao: +398 cases (now 19645) since 20 hours ago — Bahrain: +373 cases (now 280482), +21295 tests (now 8.0 million) since a day ago | 23:32 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Michael Lin, PhD-MD (@michaelzlin): And once again, everyone, ribavirin is not precedence for MOV. It's a myth that it works by viral mutagenesis; data show it most likely works by boosting innate immune responses. Also it's never been used in something as explosively contagious as [... want %more?] → https://twitter.com/michaelzlin/status/1475956196762796032 | 23:33 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Philly now averaging more COVID-19 cases than at any point during pandemic → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/rqrnfa/philly_now_averaging_more_covid19_cases_than_at/ | 23:52 |
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