| Tuvix | Right, and given the offset schedules people got their originals, they'll hopefully be staggered enough to allow boosters to be somewhat smoothed. | 00:00 |
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| Tuvix | Of course, that falls apart like with the 16-17 rush here, since many suddenly became elligible the moment the local supply and signups were in place. | 00:00 |
| lastshell | I assume US will follow israel next year (because that happen with the booster) | 00:00 |
| xx | 16-17 rush? | 00:01 |
| xx | is that time, or age, or dates? | 00:01 |
| Tuvix | That age group here was just a few weeks ago approved for boosters locally around here. | 00:01 |
| xx | huh, interesting. | 00:01 |
| Tuvix | Thus there was a huge influx for booster doses. It lagged a bit behind the national approval, but local clinics and stuff have to get their systems ready for that. | 00:02 |
| LjL | when they made the green pass mandatory for various things, and then again when they narrowed it down to only vaccinated people (no tests), there was an expected surge in vaccinations | 00:03 |
| Tuvix | Yup, and we've seen that in limited industries (eg: United Airlines did that) but it's largely not required for anything major here if you don't fall into an employer requirement. | 00:03 |
| Tuvix | Bars, live events, domestic travel, and such around here have no requirements, and typically any mask recommendation (or even requirements) are effectively ignored. | 00:04 |
| Tuvix | The Times Square celebration was scaled back and had a mask requirement, but from the background shots I saw when I skimmed the live footage a little bit last night, folks were packed into general admission on the street level, and a number didn't have masks or were wearing them poorly. | 00:05 |
| Tuvix | Maybe having the vaccination requirement will help a bit, but I suspect there's going to be at minimum a pretty big case spike from that event alone, nevermind the after-parties that usually go with it. | 00:05 |
| xx | I watched webcams from a number of european capital cities, and masks were very rare, despite heavy density on the streets | 00:05 |
| xx | hence I expect a related spike | 00:06 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Chad: +480 cases (now 6183), +3 deaths (now 184), +8525 tests (now 188872, 0.0% positive) since 26 days ago — India: +27198 cases (now 34.9 million), +284 deaths (now 481519) since 20 hours ago | 00:15 |
| finely[m] | <lastshell> "omicron is possible airbone..." <- The droplet/aerosol distinction was a myth. The scientific consensus of diseases being spread by particles either under 5 microns diameters or over was wrong. Any respiratory disease will be spread by a continuum of particle sizes. | 00:16 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Restaurants, rights groups denounce Quebec curfew, experts say it’s necessary - Montreal | Globalnews.ca → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/rtux26/restaurants_rights_groups_denounce_quebec_curfew/ | 00:20 |
| user31 | xx, lul unfortunate.. | 00:30 |
| Tuvix | Yea, here's the best you can get if you don't like a local business and think they ought to be doing more: The Health Department will follow up when complaints about not following best public health practice or guidance are received. They will: • provide resources and education on public health principles and best practices • formally document the follow up, including a letter sent to any entity that | 00:30 |
| Tuvix | is not following the basic prevention and control expectations. | 00:30 |
| Tuvix | So, pretty weak really. | 00:30 |
| Tuvix | They'll basically have a talk with that business. | 00:30 |
| xx | why not "If you don't try to follow best practices, we won't try to give you gov bailouts for loss of revenue due to covid" | 00:32 |
| Tuvix | Why would say a bar need bailouts? They're packed nightly around here. | 00:32 |
| Tuvix | The carrot vs stick approach only works if the stick means something. | 00:32 |
| xx | pretty sure that bar asked for gov money last year (this year?) when they were eligible | 00:32 |
| user31 | its very understandable, when you could the lobbiests and who writes the laws | 00:33 |
| xx | and if they did not, then they were doing it wrong, it was free money | 00:33 |
| user31 | s/count | 00:33 |
| xx | uh, 'this year' means something else now... I need to get used to that | 00:33 |
| user31 | many billions of PPP were siphoned off and not repaid, by connected minions | 00:35 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Science: science: Researchers found it's possible to design a sensor, based on quantum physics, that could detect the SARS-CoV-2 virus. Mathematical simulations showed the approach may offer faster, cheaper, and more accurate detection of Covid-19, including of [... want %more?] → https://old.reddit.com/r/science/comments/rtv3r6/researchers_found_its_possible_to_design_a_sensor/ | 00:39 |
| user31 | https://twitter.com/jeremyfaust/status/1476435214285131776 | 00:41 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Turkey starts offering 5th dose of COVID-19 booster shots → https://old.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/rtvpkj/turkey_starts_offering_5th_dose_of_covid19/ | 00:48 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Covid-19 disruptions caused sharp spike in malaria deaths in 2020 → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/rtvtbq/covid19_disruptions_caused_sharp_spike_in_malaria/ | 00:58 |
| camelia[m] | .cases canada | 01:01 |
| Brainstorm | camelia[m]: Canada has had 2.2 million confirmed cases (5.8% of all people) and 30386 deaths (1.4% of cases; 1 in 1250 people) as of 2 hours ago. 52.6 million tests were done (4.2% positive). 31.7 million were vaccinated (83.6%). +12 deaths since 19 hours ago. See https://resources-covid19canada.hub.arcgis.com/ | 01:01 |
| Tuvix | Just before the new year's several-day-reporting-delay, the US passed 1 in 399 people died over the entier pandemic. Quite a contrast to Canada's incidence rate. | 01:01 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Success of online medical portal Doctolib highlights the French state’s failure to digitise → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/rtw1z8/success_of_online_medical_portal_doctolib/ | 01:07 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Eric Topol (@EricTopol): How our memory B cells, when given a 3rd dose (booster) vaccine, adapt to Omicron medrxiv.org/content/10.110… @ragoninstitute @ShivPillai4 pic.twitter.com/TFgPihe4X9 → https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/1477430760344735744 | 01:17 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Trudeau calls the unvaccinated racist and misogynistic extremists → https://old.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/rtwdmu/trudeau_calls_the_unvaccinated_racist_and/ | 01:26 |
| de-facto | LjL, can we have our old topic back? | 01:27 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for United Kingdom: +163775 cases (now 13.2 million), +155 deaths (now 149251) since 22 hours ago | 01:30 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Boris Johnson asks ministers to plan for Covid workplace absences of up to 25% | Coronavirus → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/rtwnao/boris_johnson_asks_ministers_to_plan_for_covid/ | 01:35 |
| de-facto | .title https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.12.30.21268554v1 | 01:41 |
| Brainstorm | de-facto: From www.medrxiv.org: Preferential expansion of cross-reactive pre-existing switched memory B cells that recognize the SARS-CoV-2 Omicron variant Spike protein | medRxiv | 01:41 |
| de-facto | thanks | 01:46 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Taiwan rejects US CDC guidance on 5-day quarantine | Taiwan News → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/rtx13f/taiwan_rejects_us_cdc_guidance_on_5day_quarantine/ | 01:54 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: the corgi from cowboy bebop (@realQrampage): I wish that every asshole who lies about COVID risks for children and spreads misinformation about the vaccine could hear a mother’s heart break on her front lawn as she knew her child was lost to COVID. I wish they could really understand [... want %more?] → https://twitter.com/realQrampage/status/1477438961232584708 | 02:04 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: France cuts isolation for COVID-positive to 7 days from 10 days → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/rtx74z/france_cuts_isolation_for_covidpositive_to_7_days/ | 02:13 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/COVID19: COVID19: Novavax Submits Final Data Packages to U.S. FDA as Prerequisite to Emergency Use Authorization Application Request for COVID-19 Vaccine → https://www.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/rtxjuc/novavax_submits_final_data_packages_to_us_fda_as/ | 02:22 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Canada: +30833 cases (now 2.2 million) since 23 hours ago | 02:32 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Governor Abbott Request Federally-Supported COVID-19 Assistance → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/rtxvlj/governor_abbott_request_federallysupported/ | 02:41 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Why some Bay Area medical experts see a coronavirus endgame within months → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/rtya32/why_some_bay_area_medical_experts_see_a/ | 03:00 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express: World: UK government seeks to mitigate workforce disruption from Omicron → https://indianexpress.com/article/world/uk-government-seeks-to-mitigate-workforce-disruption-from-omicron-7701864/ | 03:31 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Curacao: +816 cases (now 22141) since a day ago — New Zealand: +137 cases (now 14257) since a day ago | 03:41 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: S. Korea: New virus cases dip below 4,000, fast spread of omicron variant in focus → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/rtzl2e/s_korea_new_virus_cases_dip_below_4000_fast/ | 04:09 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: White people told not to bother trying to get monoclonal antibody treatment amid shortage → https://old.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/rtzw33/white_people_told_not_to_bother_trying_to_get/ | 04:19 |
| Tuvix | Well that's silly. tl;dr: minorities shown to be more impacted by the pandemic due to long-standing inequities, and mis-represented as a source of outcomes rather than other underlying causes. | 04:22 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Netherlands: +17034 cases (now 3.2 million) since 23 hours ago | 04:30 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/COVID19: COVID19: Characteristics and Outcomes of Hospitalized Patients in South Africa During the COVID-19 Omicron Wave → https://www.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/ru0kuv/characteristics_and_outcomes_of_hospitalized/ | 04:57 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: New York reports 85,000 cases in a day, another record, as surge shows no sign of slowing. → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/ru0qa3/new_york_reports_85000_cases_in_a_day_another/ | 05:06 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: US flight cancellations hit new holiday peak amid Covid and bad weather → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/ru1b8t/us_flight_cancellations_hit_new_holiday_peak_amid/ | 05:34 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Pakistan: +594 cases (now 1.3 million), +8 deaths (now 28941), +45585 tests (now 23.5 million, 0.0% positive) since 22 hours ago — Japan: +504 cases (now 1.7 million), +9064 tests (now 29.4 million, 0.0% positive) since a day ago | 05:39 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Covid-19: Sinovac booster dose can activate cellular immunity against Omicron variant, study suggests → https://old.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/ru1nll/covid19_sinovac_booster_dose_can_activate/ | 05:53 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for India: +1149 cases (now 34.9 million), +251 deaths (now 481770), +2193231 tests (now 680.1 million, 0.0% positive) since 5 hours ago | 06:10 |
| Brainstorm | New from This Week In Virology: TWiV 847: On Dasher, on Dancer, on Corona and Lassa: For the final episode of 2021, TWiV reviews an experimental infectious attenuated Lassa fever vaccine based on a codon-deoptimized glycoprotein gene, and SARS-CoV-2 infection of free-ranging white-tailed deer. → https://www.microbe.tv/twiv/twiv-847/ | 06:12 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: How Do You Even Calculate COVID-19 Risk Anymore? → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/ru26pv/how_do_you_even_calculate_covid19_risk_anymore/ | 06:22 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Police break up 50-person New Year's Eve sex orgy in Spain for breaking Covid rules → https://old.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/ru2dy0/police_break_up_50person_new_years_eve_sex_orgy/ | 06:31 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for New South Wales, Australia: +40803 cases (now 228307), +6 deaths (now 669) since 23 hours ago — Pennsylvania, United States: +23189 cases (now 2.1 million), +9 deaths (now 36714) since 23 hours ago — Quebec, Canada: +17122 cases (now 620189), +8 deaths (now 11732) since 23 hours ago — Veneto, Italy: +14270 cases (now 659993), +12 deaths (now 12395) since 23 hours ago | 06:35 |
| sdfgsdfg | https://www.skynews.com.au/australia-news/coronavirus/former-deputy-chief-medical-officer-dr-nick-coatsworth-says-the-covid19-pandemic-will-end-in-2022/news-story/9ddead7ed7f6fae8cb8e8f44e84608df | 06:56 |
| sdfgsdfg | .title | 06:56 |
| Brainstorm | sdfgsdfg: From www.skynews.com.au: Former deputy chief medical officer Dr Nick Coatsworth says the COVID-19 pandemic ‘will end’ in 2022 | Sky News Australia | 06:56 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/COVID19: COVID19: The Omicron Variant Increases the Interactions of SARS-CoV-2 Spike Glycoprotein with ACE2 → https://www.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/ru2pyp/the_omicron_variant_increases_the_interactions_of/ | 07:00 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Turks and Caicos: +152 cases (now 3560) since 19 hours ago | 07:00 |
| sdfgsdfg | ACE2 is involved with heart cells | 07:02 |
| sdfgsdfg | weirdd finding | 07:04 |
| sdfgsdfg | "Recognition that ACE2 is the coreceptor for the coronavirus has prompted new therapeutic approaches to block the enzyme or reduce its expression to prevent the cellular entry and SARS-CoV-2 infection in tissues that express ACE2 including lung, heart, kidney, brain, and gut." | 07:05 |
| sdfgsdfg | so that could really mean longcovid for more people | 07:05 |
| Tuvix | That was talked about by several doctors I follow this past month in terms of impact to other organs. I especially wonder on the imapct to youth in this regard, both initially and long-term. | 07:07 |
| sdfgsdfg | or just more cardiac damage | 07:07 |
| Tuvix | Well, really just this past week. | 07:07 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: ICU teams report fatigue and frustration as they brace for omicron surge → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/ru36me/icu_teams_report_fatigue_and_frustration_as_they/ | 07:27 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Economic disruption report pandemic impact on young adults | News → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/ru3wtm/economic_disruption_report_pandemic_impact_on/ | 08:05 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Record 235 COVID-19 cases reported among U.S. forces in Okinawa → https://old.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/ru3zy2/record_235_covid19_cases_reported_among_us_forces/ | 08:14 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: TWiV 847: On Dasher, on Dancer, on Corona and Lassa → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/ru4658/twiv_847_on_dasher_on_dancer_on_corona_and_lassa/ | 08:24 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Covid-19: High possibility of Omicron wave hitting Malaysia, says Khairy → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/ru4rcs/covid19_high_possibility_of_omicron_wave_hitting/ | 09:01 |
| * Mynona slaps Mynona | 09:13 | |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Australia starts 2022 with record cases → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/ru4xcn/australia_starts_2022_with_record_cases/ | 09:20 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Maharashtra, India: +9170 cases (now 6.7 million), +7 deaths (now 141533) since 23 hours ago — West Bengal, India: +4512 cases (now 1.6 million), +9 deaths (now 19773) since 23 hours ago — Delhi, India: +2716 cases (now 1.5 million), +1 deaths (now 25108) since 23 hours ago — Tamil Nadu, India: +1489 cases (now 2.7 million), +8 deaths (now 36784) since 23 hours ago | 09:36 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Cognitive defects in people who have recovered from. Covid-19 → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/ru59c6/cognitive_defects_in_people_who_have_recovered/ | 09:39 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express (Health): Health: Mental health 2021: The psychological consequences of the pandemic → https://indianexpress.com/article/lifestyle/health/mental-health-2021-the-psychological-consequences-of-the-pandemic-7702067/ | 09:49 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Philippines: +4445 cases (now 2.9 million), +25 deaths (now 51570) since 23 hours ago | 10:01 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: New COVID-19 cases in India rise sharply for fifth consecutive day → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/ru5u9t/new_covid19_cases_in_india_rise_sharply_for_fifth/ | 10:17 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express: World: With Omicron’s rise, Americans brace for returning to school and work → https://indianexpress.com/article/world/covid-omicron-americans-returning-school-work-7702119/ | 10:26 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: New studies reinforce belief that Omicron is less likely to damage lungs → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/ru6d22/new_studies_reinforce_belief_that_omicron_is_less/ | 11:04 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Bahamas: +809 cases (now 25285), +2370 tests (now 185443, 0.0% positive) since a day ago | 11:09 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: UK marks 132 million life-saving COVID-19 vaccinations in 2021 → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/ru6tem/uk_marks_132_million_lifesaving_covid19/ | 11:32 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Oman: +343 cases (now 305832), +1 deaths (now 4117) since 2 days ago | 11:34 |
| sdfgsdfg | "Cognitive defects in people who have recovered from. Covid-19 →" thats a nice read | 11:46 |
| sdfgsdfg | I was just reading about covid eye infections, there are only about 4 studies so far, which all say more research is needed.... but one of them ends discussion with this paragraph: | 11:47 |
| sdfgsdfg | "It should be noted that the ocular system does not exclusively include the eye, but also the pathway from the optic nerve to the occipital lobe, as some critical SARS-CoV-2 patients have demonstrated anomalies observed through magnetic resonance imaging and in post-mortem brain biopsies.19" | 11:47 |
| sdfgsdfg | which is a coincidence - with cognitive defects findings | 11:48 |
| sdfgsdfg | maybe ?? | 11:48 |
| sdfgsdfg | are we about to find out we're all going braindead soon ? lol | 11:48 |
| Dredd | Pretty sure if you look at most illnesses on this scale there are cases where there'll be unexpected negative changes in places | 11:49 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Black patients are over three times more likely than average to have been hospitalised with Omicron, figures show → https://old.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/ru72jc/black_patients_are_over_three_times_more_likely/ | 11:50 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Libya: +916 cases (now 389650), +12 deaths (now 5722), +6481 tests (now 2.0 million, 0.0% positive) since a day ago — Nepal: +213 cases (now 828986), +2 deaths (now 11596), +5962 tests (now 4.9 million, 0.0% positive) since 22 hours ago | 11:59 |
| Brainstorm | New from Politico: Coronavirus: France cuts COVID isolation to 7 days for vaccinated people → https://www.politico.eu/article/france-quarantine-isolation-vaccinated-omicron/ | 12:00 |
| sdfgsdfg | hmm the finding seems to imply it's not just the severe cases or some people though, it goes: "People who had recovered from COVID-19, including those no longer reporting symptoms, exhibited significant cognitive deficits versus controls when controlling for age, gender, education level, income, | 12:04 |
| sdfgsdfg | racial-ethnic group, pre-existing medical disorders, tiredness, depression and anxiety. The deficits were of substantial effect size for people who had been hospitalised (N = 192), but also for non-hospitalised cases who had biological confirmation of COVID-19 infection (N = 326). Analysing markers of premorbid intelligence did not support these differences being present prior to infection. Finer grained analysis of performance across sub-tests | 12:04 |
| sdfgsdfg | supported the hypothesis that COVID-19 has a multi-domain impact on human cognition. | 12:04 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Turkey starts offering 5th dose of COVID-19 booster shots → https://old.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/ru7n0x/turkey_starts_offering_5th_dose_of_covid19/ | 12:28 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: PCR kit purchases could indicate COVID began in Wuhan as early as May 2019 → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/ru7s6l/pcr_kit_purchases_could_indicate_covid_began_in/ | 12:47 |
| sdfgsdfg | so if we can't test more than 20% of people, how are we supposed to know how many of us are sick | 12:51 |
| de-facto[m] | by dedicating a fraction of limited testing capacity on testing a representative minority cohort and extrapolating on full population by the magic of multiplication with a constant factor? | 13:02 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Clinically Suspected Myocarditis Temporally Related to COVID-19 Vaccination in Adolescents and Young Adults → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/ru81m8/clinically_suspected_myocarditis_temporally/ | 13:06 |
| de-facto[m] | challenge being choosing a representative cohort, especially if Omicron super fast cluster spread leading to uneven disease pockets rather than averaged out community spread, hence requiring a large distributed (both geographically and over cohort properties such as age or society category etc.) cohort to represent disease dynamics of the whole population | 13:15 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Saudi Arabia: +1024 cases (now 558106), +1 deaths (now 8879) since a day ago — Germany: +3429 cases (now 7.2 million) since 20 hours ago — United Kingdom: +162904 cases (now 13.2 million) since 22 hours ago | 13:39 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Daily COVID cases in Saudi Arabia above 1,000, continue to climb in UAE → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/ru8quj/daily_covid_cases_in_saudi_arabia_above_1000/ | 13:53 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for UAE: +2600 cases (now 767093), +3 deaths (now 2168), +429564 tests (now 112.2 million, 0.0% positive) since 23 hours ago — Hong Kong: +26 cases (now 12693) since a day ago | 14:10 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Hospital Covid admissions from omicron could exceed second wave, study suggests → https://old.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/ru93gw/hospital_covid_admissions_from_omicron_could/ | 14:11 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Kuwait encourages citizens to leave UK on Omicron fears → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/ru9d42/kuwait_encourages_citizens_to_leave_uk_on_omicron/ | 14:30 |
| minthos | a bit late for that | 14:31 |
| de-facto | well they got a good chance of exposure by now, hence import strategy might be immediately successful now | 14:38 |
| minthos | yeah it's good advice if the intent is to spread omicron to the rest of the world as fast as possible | 14:39 |
| de-facto | isnt that what is being done by evacuating from the epicenter of an outbreak? | 14:40 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Frightening new Covid data shows Boris Johnson’s omicron gamble may be about to implode → https://old.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/ru9jht/frightening_new_covid_data_shows_boris_johnsons/ | 14:40 |
| minthos | yes | 14:40 |
| de-facto | its a proven to work quite well strategy | 14:40 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Italy: +96 cases (now 6.3 million) since 19 hours ago | 14:41 |
| de-facto | organize a welcome party and boom, you have a flourishing omicron outbreak too | 14:42 |
| de-facto | will the Pi VoC be Omicron based? Will an Omicron based mutant be able to spread after Omicron created large amounts of immunity or will it need to be based on a completely different evolution lineage distinct enough to evade Omicron based immunity? | 14:46 |
| de-facto | will pre-existing immunity based on Delta or Wuhan-Hu-1 be broadened by exposure to the quite different Omicron spike become broad enough to also cover possible future variants better than before? | 14:48 |
| de-facto | how long will it last? | 14:48 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: A laboratory study from South African scientists suggested that people who have recovered from an Omicron infection might be able to repel infections from the Delta variant. → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/ru9nmi/a_laboratory_study_from_south_african_scientists/ | 14:49 |
| de-facto | i think we are dealing with a hydra of never ending supply of new mutants that are very efficiently spread globally via airplane traveling, so it will go on as long as such traveling goes on | 14:50 |
| de-facto | combat one variant of concern and two new will have grown somewhere and imported while the previous one fizzles out | 14:52 |
| de-facto | hospitalizations in UK are rising exponentially, as expected | 14:58 |
| de-facto | https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/healthcare?areaType=overview&areaName=United%20Kingdom | 14:58 |
| de-facto | Omicron delivering expectations with mathematical precision | 14:59 |
| de-facto | wait for hospital personnel getting infected in a magnitude that severely affects hospital operational status | 15:00 |
| de-facto | critical infrastructure in many countries is dependent on personnel availability | 15:01 |
| de-facto | so what better idea than letting Omicron rip through that personnel to threaten the availability of such critical infrastructure? | 15:02 |
| de-facto | maybe if it becomes really bad at least some people will rethink their strategies? | 15:02 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Bangladesh: +557 cases (now 1.6 million), +1 deaths (now 28077), +19130 tests (now 11.5 million, 0.0% positive) since 23 hours ago — Senegal: +334 cases (now 75671), +2462 tests (now 923932, 0.0% positive) since a day ago | 15:06 |
| minthos | yes | 15:06 |
| minthos | I think that happened in sweden | 15:07 |
| minthos | they were very welcoming of covid early on in the pandemic | 15:07 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Science: science: Evidence for a mouse origin of the SARS-CoV-2 Omicron variant → https://old.reddit.com/r/science/comments/rua6jb/evidence_for_a_mouse_origin_of_the_sarscov2/ | 15:18 |
| de-facto | .title https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explorer?country=~OWID_WRL <-- Omicron really makes the whole world go fucking vertical | 15:33 |
| Brainstorm | de-facto: From ourworldindata.org: COVID-19 Data Explorer - Our World in Data | 15:34 |
| de-facto | we urgently need much stricter contact reductions enforced | 15:35 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Japan logs 554 daily COVID-19 cases, new high since Omicron spread → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/ruahbd/japan_logs_554_daily_covid19_cases_new_high_since/ | 15:37 |
| de-facto | .title https://cov-lineages.org/lineage.html?lineage=B.1.1.529 <-- Omicron already got some sub-lineages | 15:46 |
| Brainstorm | de-facto: From cov-lineages.org: Cov-Lineages | 15:46 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: I’m a UK Covid scientist. Here’s a sample of the abuse in my inbox → https://old.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/ruaqez/im_a_uk_covid_scientist_heres_a_sample_of_the/ | 15:47 |
| de-facto | some of them do not have the s-gene dropout, hence may evade detection by del6970 PCR primer proxy | 15:47 |
| de-facto | .title https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SARS-CoV-2_Omicron_variant#Sublineages_and_stealth_variant | 15:48 |
| Brainstorm | de-facto: From en.wikipedia.org: SARS-CoV-2 Omicron variant - Wikipedia | 15:48 |
| de-facto | "The 'standard' sublineage is now referred to as BA.1/B.1.1.529.1, and the two other sublineages are known as BA.2/B.1.1.529.2 and BA.3/B.1.1.529.3" | 15:49 |
| de-facto | "All three can be detected by full sequencing, but BA.2 has been nicknamed 'Stealth Omicron' because it differs from the 'standard' variety by not having the characteristic S gene target failure (SGTF)-causing deletion (Δ69-70) by which many PCR tests are able to detect a case as an Omicron, or Alpha, variant. Thus, countries that primarily rely on SGTF for detection may overlook BA.2." | 15:49 |
| mrdata | sneaky | 15:51 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Gunhild Alvik Nyborg (@GANyborg): During the SARS-CoV-2-pandemic, contrary to popular belief, public health and economy go hand in hand. The better a country has controlled the virus, the better it has performed economically. #DiseaseDoesntPay twitter.com/cecphil/status… → https://twitter.com/GANyborg/status/1477649013524635651 | 15:56 |
| Arsanerit | there's a new version of omicron now? | 16:01 |
| Raf[m] | Arsanerit: Link? | 16:04 |
| de-facto | https://github.com/cov-lineages/pango-designation/issues/390 | 16:06 |
| de-facto | .title | 16:06 |
| Brainstorm | de-facto: From github.com: Proposal for Danish BA.2 sublineage with nuc:C22792T (240 seqs, 10-20% of Omicron in Denmark) · Issue #390 · cov-lineages/pango-designation · GitHub | 16:06 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/COVID19: COVID19: Risk of Myopericarditis following COVID-19 mRNA vaccination in a Large Integrated Health System: A Comparison of Completeness and Timeliness of Two Methods → https://www.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/rub0rv/risk_of_myopericarditis_following_covid19_mrna/ | 16:06 |
| de-facto | https://twitter.com/JosetteSchoenma | 16:07 |
| Arsanerit | Raf[m]: it was a question based on de-facto's quote about "Stealth Omicron" | 16:18 |
| de-facto | .title https://cov-spectrum.org/explore/Denmark/AllSamples/from=2021-12-15&to=2022-01-02/variants?pangoLineage=B.1.1.529* | 16:23 |
| Brainstorm | de-facto: From cov-spectrum.org: covSPECTRUM | 16:23 |
| de-facto | .title https://cov-spectrum.org/explore/Denmark/AllSamples/from=2021-12-15&to=2022-01-02/variants?pangoLineage=BA.2 | 16:23 |
| Brainstorm | de-facto: From cov-spectrum.org: covSPECTRUM | 16:23 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Fully vaccinated and just got COVID? Here’s how long you should wait to get a booster → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/rubftd/fully_vaccinated_and_just_got_covid_heres_how/ | 16:25 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: COVID-19 outbreak in fly-in Ontario First Nation an 'extreme crisis': grand chief → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/rubk51/covid19_outbreak_in_flyin_ontario_first_nation_an/ | 16:34 |
| de-facto | .title https://github.com/cov-lineages/pango-designation/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+omicron | 16:36 |
| Brainstorm | de-facto: From github.com: Issues · cov-lineages/pango-designation · GitHub | 16:36 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Twitter Permanently Suspends Marjorie Taylor Greene’s Account → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/rubxog/twitter_permanently_suspends_marjorie_taylor/ | 16:53 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Face The Nation (@FaceTheNation): At this stage of the pandemic, cloth masks don't provide much protection against COVID-19, according to @ScottGottliebMD. pic.twitter.com/pvX5McVnzX → https://twitter.com/FaceTheNation/status/1477670342604771328 | 17:02 |
| Tuvix | And that's a member of our federal-level congress here :( | 17:09 |
| Tuvix | <de-facto> we urgently need much stricter contact reductions enforced « meanwhile, here in the norther great plains of the US, the holiday-for-many on Friday 31-Dec resulted in crowded grocery stores and at least here, about 80% unmasked. Some even brought the whole family out! | 17:11 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Tulio de Oliveira (@Tuliodna): This thought-provoking article starts with a tweet a week ago asking China to stop prosecuting its public health officials, local and international individuals due to a more transmissible variant. How much longer can China keep up its zero-Covid strategy? [... want %more?] → https://twitter.com/Tuliodna/status/1477672953122799622 | 17:12 |
| Tuvix | It's a bit late for meaningful contract restrictions in jurisdictions that have predicated not having them as a sign that things are back to normal… | 17:12 |
| finely[m] | <de-facto> "maybe if it becomes really bad..." <- It will be too late by then, health systems will collapse. Forcing exposed health care workers to keep working will spread to to our sickest citizens. Australia will by in the same boat now. You can't get a PCR test now without a RAT. You can't find RATs anywhere. With NSW posting a 20% positivity rate, things are looking grim. And health care workers will continue to quit. | 17:22 |
| de-facto | to me all that sounds like a bulletproof recipe for disaster, but heh | 17:26 |
| Arsanerit | What is a RAT? | 17:27 |
| Tuvix | I'm awaiting this upcoming week as state & local departments get their data going again, but that's what I'm expecting. | 17:27 |
| Tuvix | Rapid Antigen Test, based on context. | 17:27 |
| de-facto | Rapid Antigen Test? | 17:27 |
| de-facto | yeah Tuvix typed faster :D | 17:27 |
| * Tuvix flexes mechanical keyboard. | 17:27 | |
| Arsanerit | What happened to the emergency hospital staffed by military personnel that they built during the 1st wave? | 17:27 |
| de-facto | any human personnel is able to be infected, hence without Omicron vaccine vulnerable | 17:28 |
| de-facto | Arsanerit, can i write you a PM? | 17:30 |
| Arsanerit | de-facto: yes | 17:30 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Hopeful signs amid the Omicron wave: The week in science news. → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/ructgg/hopeful_signs_amid_the_omicron_wave_the_week_in/ | 17:30 |
| finely[m] | <Arsanerit> "What is a RAT?" <- Rapid antigen test | 17:39 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: US donates more Pfizer Covid-19 vaccine doses to Laos - This latest shipment consists of 799,110 doses of the Pfizer BioNTech vaccine and is the first of two shipments planned for delivery to Laos. → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/rud0y4/us_donates_more_pfizer_covid19_vaccine_doses_to/ | 17:40 |
| Arsanerit | finely[m]: thanks | 17:47 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/COVID19: COVID19: Low vitamin D levels do not aggravate COVID-19 risk or death, and vitamin D supplementation does not improve outcomes in hospitalized patients with COVID-19: a meta- analysis and GRADE assessment of cohort studies and RCTs → https://www.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/rudcpt/low_vitamin_d_levels_do_not_aggravate_covid19/ | 17:49 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: ‘There is no money left’: Covid crisis leaves Sri Lanka on brink of bankruptcy → https://old.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/rude4i/there_is_no_money_left_covid_crisis_leaves_sri/ | 17:59 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Unvaccinated US travellers added to French quarantine list France has put the United States on its Covid-19 travel “red list”, meaning unvaccinated people coming into the country will have to quarantine for 10 days. → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/rudm7u/unvaccinated_us_travellers_added_to_french/ | 18:09 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Scott Gottlieb, MD (@ScottGottliebMD): Today’s @FaceTheNation shoot: from our respective home set-ups. Our Covid times. pic.twitter.com/4uzA9CixRD → https://twitter.com/ScottGottliebMD/status/1477686923841916934 | 18:18 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Michael Lin, PhD-MD (@michaelzlin): Australia shows a dramatically lower hosp rate and CFR than before too. Here immunity is mostly from vaccines not prior infection, like Denmark. So, vaccines work. But not sure why it's so much better than Denmark. Smaller inoculums in summer [... want %more?] → https://twitter.com/michaelzlin/status/1477691948114735104 | 18:37 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Eric Topol (@EricTopol): So far we've seen reduction in Omicron clinical severity vs Delta, reflecting both immunity wall and instrinsic virus properties, in 2 different populations:Gauteng, South Africa 73%papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cf…UK 60-70%assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/upl… → https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/1477697322863632385 | 18:56 |
| lastshell | if someone took 2 sputnik and for booster jnj is there any data or anecdotal data ? | 19:08 |
| lastshell | i have a family member 70 years old male | 19:08 |
| lastshell | just wonder how protected he is | 19:08 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: COVID-19: Data does not support more restrictions in England this week thanks to plan B, cabinet minister says → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/ruf1ga/covid19_data_does_not_support_more_restrictions/ | 19:15 |
| LjL | lastshell, it may not be a good idea | 19:16 |
| LjL | J&J uses the Ad26 vector virus, and one of the two Sputnik shots also uses Ad26 (the other uses Ad5) | 19:16 |
| lastshell | ? | 19:17 |
| LjL | so there is a possibility that the second Ad26 shot will have little effect, as the immune system may attack the vector virus and destroy it before it gets a chance to learn about the spike protein | 19:17 |
| LjL | lastshell, you will have to ask something more specific than "?" :P | 19:17 |
| LjL | anyway i would take an mRNA vaccine if at all possible | 19:18 |
| LjL | lastshell, the reason Sputnik uses two different adenoviruses for the two shots is precisely because of the concern that using the same one twice may not be very effective | 19:18 |
| LjL | by using J&J as the booster, you override that concern | 19:18 |
| LjL | doesn't seem like a good idea | 19:18 |
| lastshell | oh ok | 19:23 |
| lastshell | sorry LjL can you clarify more the override | 19:24 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Michael Lin, PhD-MD (@michaelzlin): Okay, so Australia is testing as badly as everyone else. Yet their hosp/case reduction relative to previous waves is 5x larger than Denmark's despite similar vaccination rate and prior infection rate.twitter.com/onekid86/statu… → https://twitter.com/michaelzlin/status/1477704920039968771 | 19:24 |
| LjL | lastshell, do you know roughly how adenovirus vector vaccines work | 19:25 |
| lastshell | a little bit, there is a real virus in the injection but let's say no to aggresive, please correct me if im wrong LjL | 19:25 |
| LjL | lastshell, that's correct, it's an adenovirus (a type of reasonably harmless virus) | 19:26 |
| LjL | lastshell, when they developed this type of vaccine, they had a concern | 19:26 |
| LjL | "we'll need two or more shots. but, what if the body's immune system already 'knows' this adenovirus and kills it too quickly? then the spike protein won't be seen by the immune system!" | 19:27 |
| LjL | because this adenovirus is modified to contain the SARS-COV-2 spike protein | 19:27 |
| LjL | and that is what the immune system needs to learn to recognize | 19:27 |
| LjL | so each vaccine maker had a different answer | 19:27 |
| lastshell | I see what you mean, you mean by having 3 shots of the similar vaccine the body is get used to so is easy recognizable ? | 19:28 |
| LjL | AZ: "We'll use a chimp adenovirus, so humans haven't already had it before" | 19:28 |
| LjL | Sputnik: "We'll use two different human adenoviruses in the two shots" | 19:28 |
| lastshell | and JnJ what they use ? | 19:28 |
| LjL | J&J: "We'll just do one shot, so the problem with the second shot being the same won't exist" | 19:28 |
| LjL | J&J uses Ad26. Sputnik also uses Ad26 in one shot, and Ad6 in the other | 19:28 |
| lastshell | ok | 19:29 |
| LjL | if you use J&J as a booster on Sputnik, basically the people who made Sputnik thought that would be a bad idea | 19:29 |
| LjL | or else, they would have used Ad26 in both shots themselves | 19:29 |
| lastshell | what will be the best for this person, he got the JNJ in nov approx | 19:30 |
| LjL | lastshell, oh, he already got J&J? I thought he had gotten Sputnik and was going to get J&J *as booster* | 19:31 |
| lastshell | yes he got the JNJ in nov | 19:32 |
| LjL | anyway, i think my answer remains the same: an mRNA vaccine would likely be best, not sure if one or two shots | 19:32 |
| LjL | (probably two) | 19:32 |
| lastshell | ok | 19:32 |
| lastshell | not sure how is in mexico the rollout of mrna | 19:32 |
| lastshell | thank you LJL | 19:33 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Michael Lin, PhD-MD (@michaelzlin): Note SA is in summer too, but hosp/case rates were 5x worse than Australia's now. Could be even more underdetection of Omicron cases in SA, or could be infection-mediated immunity (which counted for most of the existing immunity there) is not as good [... want %more?] → https://twitter.com/michaelzlin/status/1477707758887600129 | 19:34 |
| LjL | lastshell, if mRNA isn't available, maybe consider AZ, at least the virus they use is different | 19:35 |
| lastshell | ok, LJL thank you | 19:35 |
| lastshell | so is better to mix vaccines ? | 19:35 |
| lastshell | I always got pfizer | 19:36 |
| lastshell | I guess if they rollout the 4th shot I will get moderna this time | 19:36 |
| Arsanerit | I have Comirnaty - Comirnaty - Spikevax. | 19:36 |
| Arsanerit | I hope my 4th dose will have some adaptations for the variants. | 19:37 |
| LjL | lastshell, when they tried to mix vaccines, they found it better usually. hard to say if it's *always* better, and in particular i've seen no data on Sputnik | 19:37 |
| Arsanerit | Why is Sputnik-V still not recognised in the EU? It seems unfair people vaccinated with Sputnik-V can't access places that are open to vaccinated people only. | 19:39 |
| LjL | i don't know. the EMA usually claims it's Sputnik's fault for not having submitted the needed information. but how are we to know? these dealings aren't public. | 19:40 |
| Raf[m] | The interesting thing is that it might be better to still have 3 moderna instead of 2x moderna and then a pfizer booster | 19:41 |
| lastshell | Raf[m] is because moderna is better than pfizer for protection but I recall more strong side effects in moderna side | 19:42 |
| Raf[m] | <LjL> "J&J uses Ad26. Sputnik also uses..." <- What is Ad26? | 19:42 |
| LjL | Raf[m], a human adenovirus | 19:42 |
| Raf[m] | Yeah | 19:43 |
| LjL | that's all i know :P | 19:43 |
| LjL | well, they use a version of Ad26 engineered to make a SARS-COV-2 spike protein, which normal Ad26 doesn't do, of course | 19:43 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: What is ‘flurona’? Israel reports first case of double Covid and flu infection - is it a new variant? → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/rug03u/what_is_flurona_israel_reports_first_case_of/ | 19:52 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Gottlieb says Omicron appears to be a "milder form" of COVID-19, but pediatric danger remains → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/rug7cy/gottlieb_says_omicron_appears_to_be_a_milder_form/ | 20:02 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: World's COVID-19 cases rise 58% but deaths down 7% → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/ruge9z/worlds_covid19_cases_rise_58_but_deaths_down_7/ | 20:11 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: People who believe COVID-19 misinformation are more likely to contract the virus → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/rugn0q/people_who_believe_covid19_misinformation_are/ | 20:21 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: CDC considering testing guidelines for the asymptomatic, Fauci says → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/rugoyw/cdc_considering_testing_guidelines_for_the/ | 20:30 |
| Tuvix | Just what we need, more guidelines that most will ignore. Who knows, maybe these do have some kind of effect overall, but at least where I am, I'm not seeing the impact on behavior from any of the macro-level guidance at the country, state, or local levels around here when it comes to behavior. | 20:32 |
| lastshell | https://news.yahoo.com/covid-rampant-among-deer-research-093018146.html | 20:33 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Israel approves fourth COVID-19 vaccine for ages 60+, medical staff → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/rugxvs/israel_approves_fourth_covid19_vaccine_for_ages/ | 20:40 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: China's Xi'an lockdown hits some of the world's largest chipmakers → https://old.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/ruhcyw/chinas_xian_lockdown_hits_some_of_the_worlds/ | 20:49 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Omicron cancels more than 3,800 flights worldwide: Live news → https://old.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/ruhok6/omicron_cancels_more_than_3800_flights_worldwide/ | 21:07 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Covid cases soar in Delhi & Mumbai with over 7.6L in 15-18 age group registering for jabs → https://old.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/ruhx9x/covid_cases_soar_in_delhi_mumbai_with_over_76l_in/ | 21:19 |
| Arsanerit | "7.6L"? | 21:20 |
| Arsanerit | 7.6 litre? | 21:20 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/COVID19: COVID19: Are triple-vaccinated people more likely to be infected by the Omicron variant than the unvaccinated? → https://www.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/ruia87/are_triplevaccinated_people_more_likely_to_be/ | 21:26 |
| de-facto | Arsanerit, 1 Lakh = 1E5 | 21:31 |
| Arsanerit | 0.76 million then? | 21:32 |
| de-facto | yep | 21:34 |
| LjL | O.o | 21:35 |
| LjL | i think i'm missing context from the netsplit | 21:35 |
| LjL | 1 lakh is 100000, and if it's 1 lakh rupees, google tells me that's 1180000 euro | 21:35 |
| Tuvix | LjL: Libera serrvers a bit bumpy, but things seem mostly restored, except for Matrix which will do its usually thrashing about for a bit yet. | 21:35 |
| Tuvix | Oh, context on the bot post, nvm. | 21:35 |
| LjL | err sorry, 1180 | 21:35 |
| LjL | Tuvix, no context on the lakh thing | 21:36 |
| Tuvix | Yea | 21:36 |
| LjL | oh, i see it now | 21:36 |
| LjL | i grepped the backscroll for "lakh" and just didn't get what that was in response to | 21:36 |
| LjL | i see it was L | 21:36 |
| de-facto | it was cases though | 21:42 |
| de-facto | .title https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/states-tighten-covid-curbs-as-sharp-rise-in-omicron-cases-continues-key-developments/articleshow/88648889.cms | 21:43 |
| Brainstorm | de-facto: From timesofindia.indiatimes.com: covid: Cases soar in Delhi, Mumbai; over 7.6L in 15-18 age group register for jabs: Key developments | India News - Times of India | 21:43 |
| LjL | I see, I was missing the fact it was 7.6 lakh that you were talking about and not 1 | 21:44 |
| LjL | i picked a pretty bad time to mess with the Matrix bridge... | 22:05 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Eric Topol (@EricTopol): It's pretty impressive that vaccines directed to the ancestral strain spike from 2 years ago, w/ the virus that's evolved thru >290 million confirmed cases, and now to the hyper-mutated Omicron, have preserved efficacy of near 90% vs severe disease with a 3rd shot → https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/1477751739440713729 | 22:28 |
| ublx | this was.. moving: https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp2115832 | 22:41 |
| Brainstorm | New from NPR: CDC could add a negative test to its new isolation guidelines, Fauci says: The CDC recently cut the number of days it recommends COVID-positive people remain in isolation from 10 days to five, but it didn't [... want %more?] → https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2022/01/02/1069774697/cdc-could-add-a-negative-test-to-its-new-isolation-guidelines-fauci-says | 22:46 |
| Tuvix | ublx: Geez, you could just regex s/(AIDS|HIV)/COVID/ from that article and see a lot of the same themes today regarding denialism, refusal of proven preventative measures, etc. :\ | 22:55 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Covid test centre damaged in fire raising attack → https://old.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/ruk7eb/covid_test_centre_damaged_in_fire_raising_attack/ | 22:56 |
| ublx | Tuvix: mhm | 22:57 |
| Tuvix | It doesn't help that the "grain of truth" in some of the bogus counter-arguments are repeated by people with degrees, even "M.D." behind their name, and other positions of power, authority, or influence. | 22:58 |
| Tuvix | Even bad studies later retracted don't get the same kind of press headlines as the original. | 22:59 |
| Brainstorm | New from Reddit (test): CoronaVirus_2019_nCoV: Column: There were no vaccines when COVID-19 took my wife from me. Now there are → https://old.reddit.com/r/CoronaVirus_2019_nCoV/comments/rukjh2/column_there_were_no_vaccines_when_covid19_took/ | 23:05 |
| LjL | Tuvix, degrees may give you knowledge but they don't give you sense | 23:12 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Protests against Germany's Covid restrictions turn violent as Europe moves to stem Omicron → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/rukjhx/protests_against_germanys_covid_restrictions_turn/ | 23:14 |
| gry | .. | 23:14 |
| sdfgsdfg | whats poppin | 23:15 |
| sdfgsdfg | are we all back to work | 23:15 |
| sdfgsdfg | I'm not enjoying this... lol | 23:15 |
| gry | i work from home | 23:15 |
| sdfgsdfg | me too of course | 23:15 |
| gry | where are you geographically | 23:15 |
| sdfgsdfg | melbourne, australia | 23:15 |
| gry | i'm in sydney | 23:15 |
| gry | \o | 23:15 |
| lastshell | tomorrow I wil be wfh again :( | 23:16 |
| gry | sdfgsdfg do you work in IT or something | 23:16 |
| gry | i'm in engineering | 23:16 |
| sdfgsdfg | yes, I work on android | 23:17 |
| gry | and i don't really follow, i avoid crowds but i suspect i am likely to get infected from 5 other apartments with whom i share ventilation anyway | 23:17 |
| gry | so you write android apps | 23:17 |
| sdfgsdfg | yep | 23:17 |
| gry | i sent you a privmsg/private notice with a channel invite | 23:17 |
| sdfgsdfg | you probably spelled my name wrong :P | 23:18 |
| gry | it's nice, i can show you an irc bot, maybe you can give me a few pointers how to convert it to an android app if you dont mind? | 23:18 |
| sdfgsdfg | ok got it ! thanks | 23:18 |
| gry | for the bot, it is in #wikinews-tech | 23:18 |
| gry | i can show it there | 23:18 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Dutch police disperse thousands protesting in Amsterdam against Covid lockdown → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/rukm9z/dutch_police_disperse_thousands_protesting_in/ | 23:24 |
| LjL | > A 27-year-old woman was criminally charged after she was accused of trying to break police cordon in the town with her 4-year-old child in tow, both of whom were pepper sprayed, authorities said. | 23:25 |
| LjL | i don't know about Mr. B, but I'm not sure this is how you build any trust | 23:25 |
| LjL | i guess at least they weren't shot | 23:25 |
| Arsanerit | Something similar happened in Germany. | 23:32 |
| Arsanerit | Who is Mr. B? | 23:32 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Chinese authorities pledge to resolve food shortages in locked-down Xian → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/ruksoh/chinese_authorities_pledge_to_resolve_food/ | 23:33 |
| LjL | Arsanerit, that *is* what happened in Germany. https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp2115832 for Mr B | 23:34 |
| de-facto | C☼VID from ☼micron SARS-C☼V-2-V☼C celebrations everywhere | 23:40 |
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| Arsanerit | LjL: Oh, I thought you were commenting on the Amsterdam protests | 23:47 |
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