Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Debunk the Funk (@Debunk_the_Funk): They actually reported that 0.08% of the reports were CVT. No causality is determined and several other datasets have consistently found no links between mRNA vaccination and blood clots. If @drsimonegold was actually worried about blood clots, [... want %more?] → https://twitter.com/Debunk_the_Funk/status/1528497410472824832 | 00:42 |
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Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Marc Veldhoen (@Marc_Veld): Excess Mortality in Massachusetts During the Delta and Omicron Waves of COVID-19For all adult age groups, the ratio of observed to expected excess mortality increased during the Omicron period compared with the Delta period.Omicron is NOT [... want %more?] → https://twitter.com/Marc_Veld/status/1528506892628152326 | 00:51 |
Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Marc Veldhoen (@Marc_Veld): The brownstone institute stigmatizing again? #Monkeypox is NOT an STD, nor is it a gay community disease! This old-fashioned and wrong attitude caused a lot of grief, lasting a long time, during the HIV pandemic!This is shameful to do again! twitter.com/GYamey/status/… → https://twitter.com/Marc_Veld/status/1528509035372322816 | 01:01 |
Brainstorm | Updates for Argentina: +43487 cases, +49 deaths since 6 days ago — Bahrain: +574 cases, +4283 tests since 23 hours ago | 01:05 |
adp | COVID-19 is the best Virus ever created | 01:34 |
adp | i hope i die from covid | 01:35 |
adp | cause i have it | 01:35 |
Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: John Dennehy (@DrJDennehy): Where is Pi, the next SARS-CoV-2 variant of concern? Past variants (e.g. Omicron and Alpha) and persistent infections of immunocompromised patients suggest Pi (the next VoC going by the Greek alphabet) could already exist, evolving in a human host. [... want %more?] → https://twitter.com/DrJDennehy/status/1528517052146786306 | 01:39 |
LjL | adp, that is not a good or rational reason to hope to die from it... it may be affecting your cognition | 01:56 |
adp | i want to die bro | 01:58 |
adp | so let covid kill me | 01:58 |
adp | im just waiting | 01:58 |
adp | not doing anything | 01:58 |
LjL | seek help | 01:59 |
LjL | but please leave suicidal stuff out of this channel | 01:59 |
adp | i am not suicidal | 01:59 |
adp | i just want covid to kill me | 01:59 |
LjL | why | 02:00 |
LjL | you are saying things that don't follow from one another | 02:00 |
LjL | adp, let me know when you're ready to elaborate | 02:06 |
LjL | it will not last forever, and if it kills you the process will be even more horrible than what you're experiencing now | 02:17 |
LjL | why not how it passes in due time (hopefully soon)? | 02:17 |
LjL | not hope* | 02:17 |
LjL | sorry, enough time wasted | 02:42 |
Brainstorm | Updates for Namibia: +4210 cases, +1 deaths, +7594 tests since 3 days ago — Jamaica: +756 cases, +11 deaths, +4595 tests since a day ago | 03:04 |
Brainstorm | New from BBC Health: World faces big challenges over Covid, monkeypox and wars - WHO: The warning by the UN health agency's chief comes amid an unusual monkeypox outbreak outside Africa. → https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-61546199 | 03:41 |
Brainstorm | Updates for Monaco: +74 cases since 6 days ago | 04:01 |
ferret | LjL: the person that took the paxlavid after 5 days | 04:48 |
ferret | and them taking an antagen test | 04:48 |
ferret | shows negitive | 04:48 |
ferret | i took a antagen test still shows positive | 04:49 |
ferret | lol | 04:49 |
ferret | that drug really did work amazing for that person | 04:49 |
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twomoon | hey ljl did you ever get covid? | 05:36 |
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alextee[m] | Hi does anyone know how long you need to have covid for a pcr test to show positive? | 07:19 |
Brainstorm | Updates for Rio Grande do Norte, Brazil: +8906 cases, +14 deaths since a day ago — Santa Catarina, Brazil: +3090 cases, +2 deaths since a day ago — Kanagawa, Japan: +1918 cases, +1 deaths since 23 hours ago — Chiba, Japan: +1007 cases since 23 hours ago | 07:59 |
ferret | alextee[m]: when you get a fever | 07:59 |
ferret | sometimes it can detect a little sooner | 08:00 |
alextee[m] | ferret: how long does that usually take from when you "catch" it? | 08:00 |
ferret | usualy when you get a fever is the highest rate the virus produces | 08:00 |
alextee[m] | im asking because i have to take a test before traveling | 08:00 |
ferret | alextee[m]: so the person in the same building got it within 3 days | 08:00 |
ferret | can be different depending on exposure | 08:01 |
ferret | i had it and i was coughing up a storm | 08:01 |
alextee[m] | any ideas what the minimum time would be? | 08:01 |
ferret | before you know it person on the other side of the house ran a fever within 3 days | 08:01 |
alextee[m] | like i have a flight on noon on one day and then i have a test scheduled in the next morning. if i catch it during that period the test will still be negative right? (assuming i didn't have covid before) | 08:01 |
ferret | as long as your not running a fever you will be fine as long as your wearing a mask | 08:02 |
ferret | i noticed i had a ton of mucus by day 6. | 08:02 |
ferret | ran an Antagen test and its super positive | 08:02 |
ferret | lol | 08:02 |
alextee[m] | dont really care about symptoms, just want the test to be negative | 08:02 |
alextee[m] | i think symptoms take many days to appear | 08:03 |
alextee[m] | so tests won't come positive before you have symptoms? | 08:03 |
ferret | thats true but the fever sneezing coughing is a huge clue | 08:03 |
ferret | from my own personal experence | 08:03 |
ferret | its all contagious | 08:03 |
alextee[m] | i dont leave the house so my only exposure to covid would be on the day before i take the test | 08:04 |
alextee[m] | so it sounds like that's short enough for the test to be negative even if i catch it on that day | 08:04 |
ferret | trust me you will know if you have covid | 08:04 |
ferret | sometimes its a fluttering feeling in the chest | 08:04 |
ferret | a cough | 08:04 |
ferret | then a constant fever | 08:05 |
alextee[m] | again, symptoms don't appear until many days after you catch it, that's irrelevant to my question | 08:05 |
ferret | there are things that you notice before they appear | 08:05 |
alextee[m] | im only asking if it's possible for a pcr test to show positive if you get infected (not have symptoms) covid the day before | 08:05 |
ferret | for me it was a fluttering panic feeling at 3:00 am | 08:05 |
ferret | chest related | 08:05 |
ferret | stuffy nose | 08:06 |
ferret | the answer is no | 08:06 |
ferret | usually pieces of the virus are picked up during the fever period | 08:07 |
alextee[m] | ok thanks | 08:07 |
alextee[m] | i was considering taking the test on the same day to be on the safe side but it sounds next day would be fine too | 08:07 |
alextee[m] | sounds like* | 08:07 |
alextee[m] | that's good, kinda matches with what i read from these 2 pieces: | 08:08 |
alextee[m] | https://www.health.harvard.edu/diseases-and-conditions/if-youve-been-exposed-to-the-coronavirus | 08:08 |
alextee[m] | https://www.gavi.org/vaccineswork/false-negative-how-long-does-it-take-coronavirus-become-detectable-pcr | 08:08 |
alextee[m] | they mention it takes some time for the test to start showing positive after you get infected (no symptoms yet) | 08:09 |
Tuvix | alextee[m]: Depends a bit on the test, but a PCR test (vs. an antigen test, like the rapid at-home tests that don't require a lab) relies on having enough of the virus replicated to show up in the results. Right away after infection there isn't going to be enough virus present until it has a chance to replicate enough to show positive on. | 08:20 |
Tuvix | .. on the lab results. | 08:20 |
alextee[m] | Tuvix: any ideas on the time frame required for the virus to replicate enough for a positive PCR test? | 08:20 |
Tuvix | Generally the sweet-spot for tests to begin to show positive is about 2 to 3 days as I understand it, but that'll vary a bit depending on both the individual and factors like how *much* virus you were exposed to (we call that the 'viral load' in terms of medical science.) | 08:21 |
alextee[m] | Tuvix: thanks, testing next morning after getting "exposed" sounds safe enough then | 08:22 |
Tuvix | Virual load also may impact how severe the infection is, since more initial virus matter result in a faster uptake of initial replication before the body's immune system begins to produce antibodies. Vaccination status matters too of course, but that won't really impact if (or really when) you test positive after infection, but matters a great deal for the body's response. | 08:22 |
alextee[m] | just eat an immuno-boosting diet and avoid contact with others as much as possible i guess to minimize the load | 08:22 |
Tuvix | Well, ideally you want to wait several days after a possible or suspected exposure if you want an accurate result. | 08:22 |
Tuvix | And if using the antigen tests, you want to do 2 tests at that point spaced at least 24 (but not more than 48) hours apart, because those have a somewhat notable rate of false-negatives (reporting negative when you're positive, which is less likely in that time-frame using PCR tests.) | 08:23 |
Tuvix | A single test has a high enough false-negative rate to not really be all that useful if you only do 1 test, even at the ideal time. | 08:23 |
Tuvix | That's for antigen of course ^. | 08:24 |
alextee[m] | Tuvix: oh I don't really care about an accurate result I just want a negative result to be able to travel | 08:24 |
alextee[m] | i won't have contact with others until the day before the test | 08:24 |
* Tuvix shrugs. The travel requirement is a bit silly anyway; it's obviously better than nothing, but nothing stops somoene from getting exposed/infected between the test and when they travel either. | 08:24 | |
Tuvix | If your goal is to game the system, especially if you suspect you have COVID, that's a bit antisocial, but I'll leave the moral implications of attempting to knowingly obtain false results to more appropriate venues for discussion. | 08:25 |
alextee[m] | yeah.. thanks for the info | 08:25 |
Tuvix | We're more about the science here than that. | 08:25 |
de-facto | there were human challenge trials where they gave humans deliberately a dose of an old variant to observe how viral concentration develops over time. note that Omicron is much more infections, so it may replicate quicker | 08:27 |
de-facto | https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-022-01780-9 | 08:27 |
de-facto | %title | 08:27 |
Brainstorm | de-facto: From www.nature.com: Safety, tolerability and viral kinetics during SARS-CoV-2 human challenge in young adults | Nature Medicine | 08:27 |
de-facto | https://media.springernature.com/full/springer-static/image/art%3A10.1038%2Fs41591-022-01780-9/MediaObjects/41591_2022_1780_Fig2_HTML.png | 08:28 |
alextee[m] | de-facto: thanks, that's exactly the info I was looking for | 08:29 |
alextee[m] | 1 day after innoculation seems low enough (and it will be actually less than 24h in my case) | 08:29 |
alextee[m] | but seems like getting a test as soon as possible will help minimize the chances of a positive test | 08:29 |
de-facto | just try to wear a good mask (N95 or better) and make sure that it sits airtight around the edges at all times so you dont get infected and transport variants from one location to another | 08:29 |
alextee[m] | i have 99% masks so my plan is to wear that and eat immuno-boosting foods before leaving the house | 08:30 |
alextee[m] | for around 15 hours of exposure. it sounds safe enough statistically | 08:30 |
alextee[m] | * of exposure until the test. it | 08:31 |
de-facto | the problem with this ongoing pandemic is that variants of concern are imported via air-traveling passengers to regions where they have not been before, hence immuno-evasive variants can spread around the globe and re-infect people again and again | 08:31 |
de-facto | 3M 9330+ are pretty good masks btw | 08:31 |
de-facto | if you can find some of those at your place it would be a good choice | 08:32 |
alextee[m] | i bought these already https://www.amazon.co.uk/FFP3-Masks-Pack-Filtration-Efficiency/dp/B09J92GRXR | 08:32 |
de-facto | I did wear those during we had one Omicron case in our hosehold and i did not get infected (tested everyday and never was positive) | 08:32 |
Tuvix | There was a neat study some weeks back that demonstrated just that: even in households with at least 1 infected member, masking (and isolation, however, minimal that may be within a single-family living unit) was statistically significant. | 08:33 |
de-facto | 3M 9330+ Aura | 08:33 |
de-facto | yes it works, distancing, wearing masks, opening windows for air exchange etc | 08:34 |
alextee[m] | that's interesting, i wouldn't expect masks to make a difference in an enclosed space for many hours | 08:34 |
alextee[m] | especially inside an airplane | 08:34 |
de-facto | oh they do make a big difference | 08:34 |
de-facto | lowering infection risk by one or two orders of magnitude | 08:35 |
Tuvix | They're far *more* effective in an airplane becuase of the air circulation. | 08:35 |
Tuvix | In a home that circulation is often very near zero (especially where heating or cooling are involved.) | 08:35 |
Tuvix | Masks + ventilation are a major improvement if you compare it to doing neither. | 08:35 |
alextee[m] | interesting | 08:36 |
Tuvix | https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/mm7106e1.htm?s_cid=mm7106e1_w | 08:36 |
de-facto | %title https://www.pnas.org/doi/full/10.1073/pnas.2110117118 | 08:36 |
Tuvix | "Consistent use of a face mask or respirator in indoor public settings was associated with lower odds of a positive SARS-CoV-2 test result (adjusted odds ratio = 0.44). Use of respirators with higher filtration capacity was associated with the most protection, compared with no mask use." | 08:36 |
Brainstorm | de-facto, the URL could not be loaded | 08:36 |
de-facto | https://www.pnas.org/doi/full/10.1073/pnas.2110117118 "An upper bound on one-to-one exposure to infectious human respiratory particles" | 08:36 |
alextee[m] | what about disinfectants? im generally against using such products on my skin but it's fine for a day if it makes a difference | 08:36 |
Tuvix | Ah, here's the household study (different one, similar result.) https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/mm7109e1.htm?s_cid=mm7109e1_w | 08:37 |
Tuvix | From the conclusion/implication summary: "Multicomponent COVID-19 prevention strategies, including up-to-date vaccination, isolation of infected persons, and mask use at home, are important to reduce Omicron transmission in household settings." | 08:37 |
Tuvix | "The AR was lower among household contacts of index patients who reported ever wearing a mask at home during their potentially infectious period (39.5%, 88 of 223) compared with household contacts of index patients who reported never wearing a mask at home during this period (68.9%, 124 of 180, p-value<0.01)." | 08:38 |
de-facto | btw those 3M 9330+ masks have the advantage that their airflow resistance is pretty low, i personally did wear them for 8h or more a day without any problem | 08:39 |
Tuvix | And no, chemicals on skin (soap or more harsh stuff) won't really make any difference at all. SARS-CoV-2 is spread almost entierly through aerosols. Handwashing is still good practice (and it'll help reduce odds you come down with other stuff you don't want, including the common cold) but masking and making risk-aware choices matter a lot more. | 08:39 |
de-facto | well if someone sneezes into the own hand and then gives you a hand for greeting, after that you touch our nose or eyes or face you may get infected by that | 08:40 |
alextee[m] | oh i was under the impression that you could catch covid via the skin too. so basically you only need to protect your lungs | 08:40 |
de-facto | but the risk by aerosol is much bigger of course especially in contained spaces such as airplanes | 08:40 |
alextee[m] | yeah and avoid touching near where you inhale | 08:40 |
Tuvix | You can pick it up via touch, but the virus isn't very good at living long-periods on surfaces. One of the first early studies that suggest otherwise was somewhat flawed in that they tested significantly higher concentrations of the virus on surfaces than you'd ever expect to find. | 08:41 |
alextee[m] | I'll buy those m3 masks then, thanks | 08:42 |
de-facto | make sure you get the 9330+ not the 9320+ | 08:43 |
alextee[m] | https://www.amazon.co.uk/3M-9330-Aura-Unvalved-Respirator/dp/B00VAT74NG looks like the right one | 08:43 |
de-facto | yup those | 08:43 |
de-facto | red rubber strip is 9330, blue rubber strip is 9320 | 08:44 |
de-facto | the 9330 are FFP3 masks, while 9320 only are FFP2 | 08:44 |
de-facto | i have seen many videos and photos where medical personnel did wear those 9330, hence even they know that they do work when worn properly (e.g. airtight around the edged) | 08:45 |
de-facto | plus their geometry allows for opening and closing the mouth (e.g. while speaking) without breaking the seal around the edges | 08:46 |
de-facto | weakness are the rubber straps, they dont last too long, hence buy more than only one | 08:46 |
alextee[m] | how long are you supposed to wear these for? | 08:47 |
de-facto | actually they are one time usage, but i did have many and did just hang them for drying then did wear them again after a few days | 08:47 |
de-facto | note that their outside could be contaminated after wearing them, hence never touch the outside | 08:48 |
alextee[m] | i mean is there a limit in hours? | 08:48 |
de-facto | they never should get wet, because then their filter does not work anymore | 08:48 |
de-facto | i always had some spare ones in my jacket so i could swap | 08:48 |
alextee[m] | actually i think it would be fine. i have 1 hour taxi ride + 3 hours at airport + 2 hours flight + ~1 hr to hotel room = 6 hours | 08:49 |
Tuvix | Provided they're not damaged, soiled, or otherwise compromised in fit or filtration performance, there's no direct limit. CDC has a much longer way of saying that in the "reuse" part of this page: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/ppe-strategy/decontamination-reuse-respirators.html | 08:49 |
de-facto | but in normal circumstances you can wear them many hours without interruption from my experience | 08:49 |
de-facto | yeah but still buy more than one, so you have spare ones, e.g. in case a rubber strap rips off or such | 08:50 |
alextee[m] | thanks, I'll buy a couple | 08:50 |
Tuvix | Normally in the medical industry these masks have been a single-use (and that's what they were designed to do) but reuse has been required even by medical folks when you get to what's called "Crisis capacity" where you don't have enough masks to use just once. | 08:50 |
alextee[m] | and keep the other ones i bought too just in case | 08:50 |
de-facto | yes thats how i would do it too | 08:50 |
alextee[m] | are hotel rooms safe assuming you don't go outside your room? | 08:50 |
Tuvix | Provided they still fit (ie: seal around your face and stay on properly) and aren't damaged/wet, you can continue using them. Ideally just cycle them out in rotation if they need to air-dry overnight. | 08:51 |
de-facto | and since those dont have an exhalation valve they are allowed at airplanes | 08:51 |
Tuvix | Hotels might depend a bit more about air circulation; many in the US at least have air-control units that vent and pull supply air directly from the outside, which is obviously better than a shared & recirculation type design where you may get air from other units. | 08:51 |
de-facto | oh and never desinfect them or anything like that, they would get damaged | 08:52 |
de-facto | their fabric is made from polypropylene fibers that were made inside an electric field, hence they are permanently electrically polarized, each fiber having an electric dipole field around its cross-section, something that would get destroyed by any chemicals or heat | 08:53 |
alextee[m] | I see thanks. so i should probably keep my mask on in the hotel room 😅 | 08:53 |
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alextee[m] | and sleep with the mask just in case | 08:54 |
Tuvix | If you're alone in the room, it's reasonably safe (let's say "safe-ish") to take it off. If you have an air-control unit that pulls in outside air, leaving it in an always-on mode ("fan" or similar setting) may help improve things on top of that. | 08:54 |
de-facto | its quite a clever design because it attracts those particles in the air by the electric fields and sticks them onto the fibers, hence their filters can have an order of magnitude less air resistance (and thereby are easier to breathe through) compared to same level of filtering without that electric polarization | 08:54 |
Tuvix | Obviously any time the door is open you're exchanging air with the hallway and such, but it's just a risk of travel and staying in a buliding with those you don't know to some extent. | 08:55 |
Tuvix | Having open windows and airflow does help. | 08:55 |
de-facto | no need to wear a mask if you are alone in a room and the air was fresh (e.g. not contaminated by someone that recently were in that room) | 08:55 |
Tuvix | That's why airplanes are one of the safest designs if you're also wearing a well-fitting mask. Ironically, it's all the stuff around the airplane that's perhaps more risky: the ride to the airport, the people in the terminal, bording, etc. | 08:56 |
de-facto | honestly i would just open the window for air-exchange and then chill in that room without mask | 08:56 |
alextee[m] | yeah opening the window sounds like a good idea (even if it's a bit cold) | 08:56 |
alextee[m] | i should also probably avoid eating outside to minimize risk | 08:57 |
alextee[m] | eat before my flight then buy something to eat in hotel room | 08:57 |
de-facto | just imagine aerosol would be cigarette smoke: what would you have to do to not expose yourself to that | 08:57 |
de-facto | e.g. do air exchange to remove that "virtual smoke" then you are fine | 08:57 |
de-facto | its pretty similar to that, just that you can not smell it | 08:58 |
alextee[m] | that's a good way to visualize it | 08:58 |
alextee[m] | btw, do saliva tests differ from swabs wrt detection? | 08:58 |
alextee[m] | or do you get pretty much the same result with either? | 08:59 |
alextee[m] | (both PCR) | 08:59 |
de-facto | if you would go to a room with cigarette smoke your clothes would accumulate the smell depending on the concentration and exposure time, similarly infection risk (number of inhaled particles) from aerosol exposure depends on both, concentration and exposure time | 08:59 |
de-facto | so if exposure time is fixed (e.g. for having to spend a fixed amount if time indoors), concentration of aerosol could be lowered by airexchange and also by filtering the inhaled air with properly wearing a good mask | 09:00 |
de-facto | so assuming that mask would fitler out 99% of the particles, it would therefore allow 100-fold as long exposure time to the same environment compared to not wearing a mask for having the same infection probability | 09:01 |
de-facto | or for the same exposure time lower infection risk 100-fold (at least as long as concentrations are somewhat low and infection risk is not saturated) | 09:02 |
Tuvix | And assuming the fit of the mask was good, though I presume that was implied ;) | 09:03 |
de-facto | Omicron is present in saliva, so taking samples from the naso-pharynx (the backside of the throat) is the best method of finding it iirc | 09:03 |
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de-facto | alextee[m], also you could buy an alcohol sanitizer spray bottle, they sell it here in supermarkets, it only costs a few bucks and allows you to spray your hands after having touched "public surfaces" such as door handles etc | 09:05 |
alextee[m] | de-facto: sounds like saliva test would be more likely to detect it then | 09:05 |
alextee[m] | de-facto: does alcohol spray "kill" the virus? | 09:06 |
de-facto | always depends on the test but yeah saliva tests could be quite senssitive | 09:06 |
de-facto | yes alcohol should denaturate the viral proteins and thereby "kill" its infection capabilities | 09:06 |
de-facto | e.g. ethanol, iso-propanol etc | 09:07 |
de-facto | i always have a tiny spray bottle and a few spare masks in my jacket | 09:07 |
alextee[m] | that's probably very bad for your skin in the long term but it serves its purpose for a few hours | 09:08 |
* alextee[m] buys a spray | 09:08 | |
de-facto | cant hurt, also kills other pathogens, i spray it on my hands after having touched door handles or such and wait for a minute or such | 09:08 |
de-facto | yeah its not good for the skin, but heh, not required to spray that often | 09:08 |
de-facto | not sure if you are allowed to carry those at the airplane though | 09:09 |
Tuvix | I've kept a small bottle (of liquid, not spray, but same concept) in my car long before COVID; I'd use it when eating meals on drives in the car when handwashing with water & soap wasn't practical. | 09:09 |
de-facto | its a liquid and ... werent there some restriction for that in airplanes? | 09:09 |
de-facto | maybe use sanitizer tissues instead is allowed? | 09:09 |
de-facto | not sure | 09:09 |
alextee[m] | i think it just needs to be a small bottle (less than 100ml) | 09:10 |
alextee[m] | and clear | 09:10 |
de-facto | could be yeah, i am not sure | 09:10 |
de-facto | btw also good idea to sanitize the hands in the light of the currently increasing monkeypox outbreak | 09:12 |
alextee[m] | Tuvix: de-facto I have to leave soon. thanks for all the information | 09:16 |
de-facto | stay safe and healthy there | 09:16 |
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Brainstorm | New from r/COVID19: COVID19: Omicron breakthrough infections in vaccinated or previously infected hamsters → https://old.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/uvups8/omicron_breakthrough_infections_in_vaccinated_or/ | 09:32 |
Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Dr Emma Hodcroft (@firefoxx66): This morning's session at the #Nobel Symposium starts with Michael Farzan explaining ACE2 binding in #SARSCoV2 & #SARSCoV1, including a great timeline comparison between how long steps took between the two (much faster in SC2) & asking if we can improve [... want %more?] → https://twitter.com/firefoxx66/status/1528640011276537856 | 09:42 |
Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Dr Emma Hodcroft (@firefoxx66): @MichaelWorobey follows, speaking to the importance of digging into the evidence of #SARSCoV2 outbreak sources & Hunan market.He opens with a remark about how this beautiful location with so many great people to talk to is pretty close to heaven - he's not [... want %more?] → https://twitter.com/firefoxx66/status/1528645820542857217 | 10:01 |
Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Gunhild Alvik Nyborg (@GANyborg): «…infectious virus can be recovered from spinal cord and lumbosacral DRGs, which may underlie some sensory disturbances experienced in COVID-19. We further show that SARS-CoV-2 is capable of replicating in specific brain regions, … which may contribute [... want %more?] → https://twitter.com/GANyborg/status/1528650754902351872 | 10:21 |
Brainstorm | New from r/COVID19: COVID19: Understanding Post-Acute Sequelae of SARS-CoV-2 Infection through Data-Driven Analysis with the Longitudinal Electronic Health Records: Findings from the RECOVER Initiative → https://old.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/uvvnpa/understanding_postacute_sequelae_of_sarscov2/ | 10:40 |
Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Michael Lin, MD PhD (@michaelzlin): Very tragic. Those parents would disagree that we can "live with COVID" pic.twitter.com/Nfrx60FNJd → https://twitter.com/michaelzlin/status/1528659107204325376 | 11:00 |
Brainstorm | New from BBC Health: Covid in Wales: Thousands wrongly given spring booster: Confusion sees around 9,500 ineligible people in Wales offered or given the booster. → https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-61547614 | 11:57 |
Brainstorm | New from ProPublica: The Hypnotherapist and Failed Politician Who Helped Fuel the Never-Ending Hunt for Election Fraud in Wisconsin: by Megan O’Matz ProPublica is a nonprofit newsroom that investigates abuses of power. Sign up for Dispatches , a newsletter that spotlights wrongdoing [... want %more?] → https://www.propublica.org/article/election-fraud-wisconsin-zuckerbucks-jay-stone#1335879 | 12:06 |
Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Dr Emma Hodcroft (@firefoxx66): Last before lunch is @unibern's own @ProfVolkerThiel! Giving a fantastic overview of how to reconstruct #SARSCoV2 viruses, including VoC, and using them in human cell & animal models to evaluate differences. And another great visualisation of the advantage [... want %more?] → https://twitter.com/firefoxx66/status/1528678751588040705 | 12:16 |
Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Gunhild Alvik Nyborg (@GANyborg): Study: Standalone HEPA filtration units are cost-effective for prevention of SARS-CoV-2 transmission@SteinarHolden @Folkehelseinst @helse_og_omsorg @Udir @utdanningsf twitter.com/chrischirp/sta… → https://twitter.com/GANyborg/status/1528687059489144833 | 12:44 |
Brainstorm | New from BioNTech: Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine Demonstrates Strong Immune Response, High Efficacy and Favorable Safety in Children 6 Months to Under 5 Years of Age Following Third Dose: Based on topline data, three doses of the Pfizer-BioNTech [... want %more?] → https://investors.biontech.de/news-releases/news-release-details/pfizer-biontech-covid-19-vaccine-demonstrates-strong-immune | 12:54 |
Brainstorm | Updates for Israel: +2472 cases, +6 deaths since 15 hours ago | 13:00 |
Brainstorm | New from ScienceNews: Pulsars may power cosmic rays with the highest-known energies in the universe: Earth is pelted by energetic particles from space. The source might be the magnetic remains of massive stars, a new study suggests. → https://www.sciencenews.org/article/pulsars-cosmic-rays-high-energy-universe-particles-light | 13:03 |
Brainstorm | New from Reddit (test): Covid2019: SARS-CoV-2 RNA Can Persist in Stool Months After Respiratory Tract Clears Virus | Gastroenterology | JAMA | JAMA Network → https://old.reddit.com/r/Covid2019/comments/uvy13r/sarscov2_rna_can_persist_in_stool_months_after/ | 13:32 |
Brainstorm | New from Reddit (test): nCoV: Global COVID Cases For 23MAY22 → https://old.reddit.com/r/nCoV/comments/uvyaab/global_covid_cases_for_23may22/ | 13:51 |
Brainstorm | New from r/COVID19: Weekly Scientific Discussion Thread - May 23, 2022: This weekly thread is for scientific discussion pertaining to COVID-19. Please post questions about the science of this virus and disease here to collect them for others and clear up post space for [... want %more?] → https://old.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/uvyk91/weekly_scientific_discussion_thread_may_23_2022/ | 14:01 |
Brainstorm | Updates for Saudi Arabia: +650 cases, +1 deaths since a day ago | 14:03 |
Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Dr Emma Hodcroft (@firefoxx66): No chance of falling asleep after lunch as @McLellan_Lab takes us through a fantastic talk on stabilizing prefusion spike proteins for vaccine development - critical for our current SC2 vaccines! And some exciting hints in the search for a universal [... want %more?] → https://twitter.com/firefoxx66/status/1528709217481285632 | 14:11 |
Brainstorm | New from Reddit (test): Covid2019: Moderna looks beyond Covid vaccines for Kenya factory → https://old.reddit.com/r/Covid2019/comments/uvyymb/moderna_looks_beyond_covid_vaccines_for_kenya/ | 14:30 |
Brainstorm | New from Reddit (test): CoronavirusEU: A Series of COVID-19 Cases With Findings in the Gastrointestinal and Hepatobiliary System → https://old.reddit.com/r/CoronavirusEU/comments/uvzgvf/a_series_of_covid19_cases_with_findings_in_the/ | 14:59 |
Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Eric Topol (@EricTopol): Good summary of what we know (limited) about the 2 vaccine programs for young children. If Pfizer prevents 80% infections with Omicron, that’s better than expected and what we’ve seen in adults. And for how long? twitter.com/megtirrell/sta… → https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/1528721800489627648 | 15:10 |
Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Eric Topol (@EricTopol): "In the U.S., the pandemic is not the emergency it once was, but neither is it over." But there's much we can still do to make life & health better w/ the virus in the backgroundnewyorker.com/news/daily-com… @DhruvKhullar w/ @devisridhar @Bob_Wachter [... want %more?] → https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/1528728542946549761 | 15:32 |
Brainstorm | Updates for Brunei: +269 cases, +1 deaths since a day ago | 16:02 |
Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Gunhild Alvik Nyborg (@GANyborg): About time we speed up the vaccinating of 5-11s?“Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine Demonstrates Strong Immune Response, High Efficacy and Favorable Safety in Children 6 Months to Under 5 Years of Age Following THIRD Dose”pfizer.com/news/press-rel… → https://twitter.com/GANyborg/status/1528740707778936832 | 16:21 |
Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Dr Emma Hodcroft (@firefoxx66): To close out the invited speakers today, @Tuliodna gives a brilliant talk on how South Africa managed in the pandemic & what was key: previous epidemic experience, holistic collaboration, communication with govt, being resilient, & giving back to the [... want %more?] → https://twitter.com/firefoxx66/status/1528744879211393026 | 16:41 |
Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Dr Emma Hodcroft (@firefoxx66): PhD student @robert_dyrdak outlines detection of mixed #SARSCoV2 BA.1 & BA.2 infections, and occasional misclassification of them as BA.3 pic.twitter.com/sjP5mjEngn → https://twitter.com/firefoxx66/status/1528749029051473923 | 16:51 |
Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Eric Topol (@EricTopol): An outstanding review of the diverse and potent ways to establish mucosal immunity via nasal and oral vaccinesnature.com/articles/s4157… @NatRevImmunol pic.twitter.com/EFCUVMHMP8 → https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/1528752144953638912 | 17:02 |
Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Gunhild Alvik Nyborg (@GANyborg): FDA meeting mid June to assess COVID vaccines for >6 months twitter.com/us_fda/status/… → https://twitter.com/GANyborg/status/1528754661435617281 | 17:13 |
Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Eric Topol (@EricTopol): "how artificial intelligence can discover medical findings that are beyond sight."Subvisual lung diagnoses via #AI in people with Covidnature.com/articles/s4225…@NatMachIntell pic.twitter.com/oRyT33ZA5R → https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/1528758072310501376 | 17:34 |
Brainstorm | Updates for Netherlands: +2678 cases, +1 deaths since 2 days ago — Germany: +9735 cases, +22 deaths since 18 hours ago | 18:01 |
Brainstorm | New from Politico: Aid and development: Photos appear to show Boris Johnson with booze at lockdown party → https://www.politico.eu/article/photograph-show-boris-johnson-lockdown-party/ | 18:08 |
Brainstorm | New from BBC Health: Scotland's first monkeypox patient in hospital: Contacts of the person are being offered the smallpox vaccine, Public Health Scotland confirms. → https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-61549385 | 18:18 |
Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Eric Topol (@EricTopol): Presence of viral antigen (not RNA) in the cerebrospinal fluid of patients with Covid and neurologic symptoms, correlated with more pronounced immune activation, with controlsjamanetwork.com/journals/jaman… @JAMANetworkOpen pic.twitter.com/HjXU6QZmMz → https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/1528773519755997184 | 18:28 |
Brainstorm | Updates for Mexico: +8066 cases, +141 deaths since 6 days ago — Italy: +10021 cases, +80 deaths, +93813 tests since 22 hours ago | 19:04 |
Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Josiah 'So M̶i̶l̶d̶ Mysterious' Grindrod (@JT_Grindrod): I would have thought an Orthopoxvirus outbreak would be the "5 alarm fire" of potential pandemics but apparently we're just cool with anything now → https://twitter.com/JT_Grindrod/status/1528782859841941504 | 19:08 |
Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Eric Topol (@EricTopol): Significantly higher efficacy for sotrovimab compared with molnupiravir for prevention of severe COVID-19 outcomes in non-hospitalised patients during the UK Omicron wave medrxiv.org/content/10.110… → https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/1528785295323254784 | 19:18 |
Brainstorm | New from The Atlantic: Don’t Worry About Vaccines Faltering Against Severe COVID—Yet: For the past year and a half, since the COVID-19 vaccines first became available—even as last summer’s reprieve gave way to Delta’s surge, then Omicron’s; even as the [... want %more?] → https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2022/05/covid-vaccine-effectiveness-severe-disease/629955/ | 19:57 |
Brainstorm | New from CDC (old): Coronavirus [CoV]: COVID-19 Travel Recommendations by Country → https://tools.cdc.gov/api/embed/downloader/download.asp | 20:07 |
Brainstorm | New from CIDRAP: Kids' COVID syndrome—MIS-C—less severe in Omicron: Mary Van Beusekom | News Writer | CIDRAP News May 23, 2022 Compared with Omicron, MIS-C rate was 14 times higher amid Alpha and 13 times higher during Delta. → https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2022/05/kids-covid-syndrome-mis-c-less-severe-omicron | 20:26 |
Brainstorm | New from Virological.org: Latest topics: A Monkeypox virus genome from a second Belgian case: Bert Vanmechelen, Tony Wawina-Bokalanga and Piet Maes. A Monkeypox virus genome was obtained from a second Belgian case at the Rega Institute, KU Leuven. Viral DNA was extracted from each swab sample [... want %more?] → https://virological.org/t/a-monkeypox-virus-genome-from-a-second-belgian-case/807 | 20:46 |
Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Marc Veldhoen (@Marc_Veld): Viral Antigen and Inflammatory Biomarkers in Cerebrospinal Fluid in Patients With COVID-19 Infection and Neurologic Symptoms Compared With Control Participants Without Infection or Neurologic Symptomsjamanetwork.com/journals/jaman… → https://twitter.com/Marc_Veld/status/1528824563618009089 | 21:54 |
Brainstorm | Updates for France: +132 deaths since 23 hours ago | 22:00 |
Brainstorm | New from COVID19 Vaccine Tracker: (translated) valerie: AnGes: AG0302-COVID19 → https://covid19.trackvaccines.org/vaccines/31/ | 22:04 |
Brainstorm | New from COVID19 Vaccine Tracker: valerie: AIM Vaccine: LVRNA009 → https://covid19.trackvaccines.org/vaccines/189/ | 22:14 |
Brainstorm | New from CIDRAP: Pfizer reports strong COVID vaccine protection in kids under 5, will file with FDA: Lisa Schnirring | News Editor | CIDRAP News May 23, 2022 FDA advisers will meet in a few weeks to discuss emergency use of 3 doses. → https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2022/05/pfizer-reports-strong-covid-vaccine-protection-kids-under-5-will-file-fda | 22:23 |
Brainstorm | New from COVID19 Vaccine Tracker: (translated) valerie: AnGes: AG0301-COVID19 → https://covid19.trackvaccines.org/vaccines/3/ | 22:43 |
Brainstorm | New from COVID19 Vaccine Tracker: valerie: Airlangga University: UNAIR Inactivated COVID-19 Vaccine → https://covid19.trackvaccines.org/vaccines/181/ | 22:52 |
Brainstorm | Updates for Canada: +326 cases since 23 hours ago | 23:02 |
Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Eric Topol (@EricTopol): A small prospective #LongCovid study cohort assessing persistent virus, autoimmunity, or immune activation failed to show any of these features were present or differed from controlsacpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M2… @AnnalsofIM pic.twitter.com/93vS0QZuWb → https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/1528848802337153029 | 23:31 |
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