libera/##covid-19/ Sunday, 2022-07-10

BrainstormUpdates for India: +20441 cases since 15 hours ago00:03
BrainstormNew from Reddit (test): CoronaVirus_2019_nCoV: Your COVID protection outside isn’t what it was in 2020. Here’s why it’s time to think more critically about outdoor gatherings: the latest dominant COVID subvariants have a reproductive rate of around 18.6, [... want %more?] → https://old.reddit.com/r/CoronaVirus_2019_nCoV/comments/vvcjw0/your_covid_protection_outside_isnt_what_it_was_in/01:01
BrainstormNew from COVID on Twitter: Eric Topol (@EricTopol): Brain imaging & neurologic assessment ~10 months after mild to moderate Covid, in 223 individuals w/ matched controls: changes in white matter reflecting inflammation but no atrophy or cognitive declinemedrxiv.org/content/10.110…More favorable than @uk_biobank [... want %more?] → https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/154590742334859264001:11
LjLTimvde, i missed the sister-already-has-it part, is *she* fully vaccinated?01:12
TimvdeYes, everyone in my family is01:13
BrainstormUpdates for Russia: +3539 cases, +45 deaths since a day ago02:01
BrainstormUpdates for Nigeria: +880 cases since 6 days ago — Trinidad and Tobago: +260 cases, +6 deaths since 2 days ago — Jamaica: +255 cases, +7 deaths, +2612 tests since a day ago — Guyana: +142 cases, +3 deaths, +1531 tests since a day ago03:04
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: With COVID-19 cases again on the rise, New York City health officials urge return to indoor masking → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/vveepw/with_covid19_cases_again_on_the_rise_new_york/03:13
BrainstormNew from r/COVID19: COVID19: Tixagevimab–cilgavimab for treatment of patients hospitalised with COVID-19: a randomised, double-blind, phase 3 trial → https://old.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/vvfggm/tixagevimabcilgavimab_for_treatment_of_patients/03:42
BrainstormUpdates for Peru: +6358 cases, +13 deaths, +48816 tests since 19 hours ago — Vietnam: +1406 cases since a day ago — San Marino: +349 cases since 4 days ago — Bahamas: +86 cases since 23 hours ago04:00
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Macau All businesses including casinos to shutter 11-18 July; government says everyone must stay home due to Covid-19 outbreak → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/vvgegp/macau_all_businesses_including_casinos_to_shutter/04:20
BrainstormUpdates for Mexico: +32195 cases, +55 deaths, +49386 tests since a day ago — South Korea: +20410 cases, +19 deaths since a day ago05:08
BrainstormNew from Science-Based Medicine: An Impossible, Unethical Study of Dubious Value That’s Not Meant to be Taken Seriously: Everyone knows it would be impossible to run an RCT of a million children in the middle of a raging pandemic Doctors who suggest such a thing don't expect you to take them seriously. The post  first [... want %more?] → https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/an-impossible-trial/06:12
BrainstormNew from r/Science: science: Cycling through the COVID-19 Pandemic to a More Sustainable Transport Future: Evidence from Case Studies of 14 Large Bicycle-Friendly Cities in Europe and North America → https://old.reddit.com/r/science/comments/vvjj4z/cycling_through_the_covid19_pandemic_to_a_more/07:08
BrainstormUpdates for Tokyo, Japan: +9716 cases since 23 hours ago — South Australia, Australia: +6415 cases, +6 deaths since 2 days ago — Osaka, Japan: +5567 cases, +1 deaths since 23 hours ago — Kanagawa, Japan: +4009 cases since 23 hours ago08:02
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Daily Discussion Thread | July 10, 2022: Please refer to our Wiki for more information on COVID-19 and our sub. You can find answers to frequently asked questions in our FAQ , where there is valuable information such as our: → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/vvltmb/daily_discussion_thread_july_10_2022/09:09
BrainstormNew from COVID on Twitter: Gunhild Alvik Nyborg (@GANyborg): Since there is virtually no info about this in Norway & many other countries,many people don’t know COVID is a vascular, and neurological, disease, that starts in the airways. Not a cold! Recommend this describing symptoms experienced by @drclairetaylor, [... want %more?] → https://twitter.com/GANyborg/status/154603622851200614409:45
BrainstormNew from COVID on Twitter: Marc Veldhoen (@Marc_Veld): Pre-print: interesting findings, well written."mild to moderate SARS-CoV-2 infection was not associated with neuropsychological deficits, significant changes in cortical structure or vascular lesions several months after recovery"medrxiv.org/content/10.110… → https://twitter.com/Marc_Veld/status/154605570440601600010:59
BrainstormUpdates for West Bengal, India: +2968 cases, +3 deaths since a day ago — Tamil Nadu, India: +2671 cases since a day ago — Puebla, Mexico: +992 cases since 3 hours ago — Queretaro, Mexico: +935 cases, +1 deaths since 3 hours ago11:09
BrainstormNew from COVID on Twitter: Gunhild Alvik Nyborg (@GANyborg): Through the pandemic I’ve tried to counter the rampant disinformation in my country. For this, I’ve been harassed and ridiculed over >2 years. Some trolls to start with, but they went quiet. So who’s running the show? These days,those related to [... want %more?] → https://twitter.com/GANyborg/status/154606069017938330111:18
BrainstormUpdates for Russia: +3398 cases, +39 deaths since 9 hours ago11:59
BrainstormNew from COVID on Twitter: Gunhild Alvik Nyborg (@GANyborg): Hospital acquired COVID-19 now making up an est. ~25% of all COVID hospitalizations in the UK (NHS data). This is preventable suffering cast upon those already striving and should not be accepted. High quality masks, good ventilation, stay home when known [... want %more?] → https://twitter.com/GANyborg/status/154608666766839398413:10
BrainstormNew from Reddit (test): nCoV: Global COVID Cases For 10JUL22 → https://old.reddit.com/r/nCoV/comments/vvpsk0/global_covid_cases_for_10jul22/13:57
BrainstormUpdates for Nepal: +104 cases since 23 hours ago14:03
BrainstormNew from COVID on Twitter: Danny Altmann (@Daltmann10): ‘Stealthy’ new Covid variant can reinfect you every month  independent.co.uk/news/world/ame… → https://twitter.com/Daltmann10/status/154610377126832128014:34
BrainstormUpdates for Indonesia: +2576 cases, +6 deaths, +41702 tests since a day ago — Iran: +2375 cases, +10 deaths since 11 hours ago — Philippines: +1945 cases, +1 deaths since 23 hours ago14:59
BrainstormNew from r/COVID19: COVID19: COVID-19 Boosters This Fall to Include Omicron Antigen, but Questions Remain About Its Value → https://old.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/vvrxz3/covid19_boosters_this_fall_to_include_omicron/15:58
BrainstormNew from COVID on Twitter: Eric Topol (@EricTopol): The BA.5 variant wave in Europe and the US is leading to increased hospitalizations, without a proportionate increase in ICU admissions or deaths ft.com/content/f4794a… by @SarahNev @jburnmurdoch pic.twitter.com/CnNfQRbKLx → https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/154613366630418432116:17
BrainstormUpdates for Hong Kong: +2992 cases, +2 deaths since 23 hours ago — UAE: +1592 cases, +1 deaths, +199841 tests since a day ago17:04
BrainstormNew from COVID on Twitter: Eric Topol (@EricTopol): "America has decided the pandemic is over. The coronavirus has other ideas."washingtonpost.com/health/2022/07… by @JoelAchenbach → https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/154614849195245977617:13
BrainstormNew from COVID on Twitter: Eric Topol (@EricTopol): The waste of 1.1 billion Covid vaccines that could have done a world of good to reduce deaths, hospitalizations, sickness and #LongCovid ft.com/content/b2267d… by @hannahkuchler @FT → https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/154615242683036876817:22
BrainstormUpdates for Italy: +81563 cases, +44 deaths, +303848 tests since 22 hours ago — Kosovo: +682 cases, +3 deaths since a day ago — Cuba: +57 cases since 23 hours ago18:00
BrainstormNew from COVID on Twitter: SARS News Network (SNN)     (@COVIDnewsfast): For so many reasons outside of COVID mitigation but make no mistake about it, the future of your public health and safety is also on the ballot box this year. And that's the most I'll get into the politics of this as I aim to keep this feed [... want %more?] → https://twitter.com/COVIDnewsfast/status/154617078926672281818:37
BrainstormNew from r/COVID19: COVID19: Estimated Number of COVID-19 Infections, Hospitalizations, and Deaths Prevented Among Vaccinated Persons in the US, December 2020 to September 2021 → https://old.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/vvvbvf/estimated_number_of_covid19_infections/18:46
BrainstormNew from COVID on Twitter: Eric Topol (@EricTopol): We desperately need #LongCovid biomarker(s)Many reports show persistent virus antigens, such as this recent small onemedrxiv.org/content/10.110… but a few counter acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M2…With millions suffering LC, it's long overdue this gets nailed [... want %more?] → https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/154618849258930585619:52
BrainstormUpdates for Japan: +48147 cases, +12 deaths since 12 hours ago — Albania: +1252 cases, +2 deaths since a day ago20:04
BrainstormNew from r/COVID19: COVID19: Hospitalization Outcomes Among Patients With COVID-19 Undergoing Remote Monitoring → https://old.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/vvx9kq/hospitalization_outcomes_among_patients_with/20:11
BrainstormNew from COVID on Twitter: Eric Topol (@EricTopol): "BA.5 could mediate not only extensive cytopathiceffects but was also significantly more infectious per diagnostic Ct value compared to the co-circulating BA.2 parental variant.""Appears to have evolved tropism towards pre-Omicron [cell] entry pathways" → https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/154619627470931148820:20
BrainstormUpdates for Togo: +54 cases, +1318 tests since a day ago21:00
BrainstormNew from Reddit (test): CoronavirusUK: ‘There’s a feeling of powerlessness’: UK healthcare workers on rising Covid numbers | Coronavirus → https://old.reddit.com/r/CoronavirusUK/comments/vvxk53/theres_a_feeling_of_powerlessness_uk_healthcare/21:07
LjLhttps://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/jul/09/long-covid-what-we-know-about-it-and-how-best-to-treat-it?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other21:20
LjL"Symptoms can persist for weeks but work on causes and treatments is still developing."21:20
LjL"Sufferers describe troubling ongoing symptoms on social media that persist for weeks after infection."21:21
LjLwhy do media downplay long covid as persisting for "weeks"?21:21
LjLby now we know it persists for YERAS21:21
LjLYEARS also21:21
LjLif it's not blatant lying, it's pretty close21:21
LjL%print https://twitter.com/Rara30585698/status/154594399441210982421:23
BrainstormLjL, It says: Rara 😷 on Twitter: "OMG, if this is Australia’s approach to #LongCovid it’s terrifying. Recovery mindset, graded exercise and ffs one even has singing therapy!!! Wonder how many people would accept them treating cancer in the same way. I despair!#massdisablingevent https://t.co/Vc1HLs3b4z" / Twitter21:23
LjLryouma would be so triggered21:23
LjL(rightly, imo)21:23
BrainstormNew from COVID on Twitter: (translated) Gunhild Alvik Nyborg (@GANyborg): and, Appendix 2: it is possible that the general practitioners / the health service have / have so much to do with the health challenges that follow in the wake of the mass infection policy with COVID, that everything we write about becomes [... want %more?] → https://twitter.com/GANyborg/status/154621688944103424121:45
BrainstormUpdates for Lebanon: +4666 cases, +4 deaths since 2 days ago22:03
xxLjL: to be fair brain damage cannot be repaired22:23
xxso there's nothing to be done about long-covid22:23
xxbest is to avoid getting covid in the first place22:23
LjLlong covid != "brain damage"22:32
LjLlong covid could be a lot of things for all we know22:32
LjLyou're oversimplifying because you're boring22:32
BrainstormNew from r/COVID19: COVID19: Global Association of COVID-19 Pandemic Measures With Cancer Screening - A Systematic Review and Meta-analysis → https://old.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/vw0cgq/global_association_of_covid19_pandemic_measures/22:32
xxall covid causes brain damage, and brain damage is persistent = long-covid22:46
LjLso if you have persistant damage to your lungs, from covid, that is NOT long covid?22:51
LjLwhy do you just focus on one thing22:51
xxbecause it's possible to live without lungs22:52
xxwhereas only politicians can live without brains22:52
Timvde"it's possible to live without lungs"? o_o22:59
LjLxx, non sequitur22:59
LjLit's possible to live without many things, doesn't mean those aren't pathologies22:59
LjL"long", "chronic", or whatever you call them22:59
LjLand you are knowledgeable enough to know this so stop spout bollocks tyvm23:00
TimvdeAlso, does *all* covid cause brain damage?23:00
TimvdeI certainly hope not... :/23:00
LjLif your point is that brain damage is scary and you want to avoid covid in order to avoid brain damage, nothing to rebut on that23:00
LjLbut you are saying other stuff23:00
LjLTimvde, there was a theory, i've lost track which study it even came from, but surely xx hasn't since she goes on and on about it, so she should be able to give you the DOI23:01
xxit was this one https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-022-04569-523:08
xxand yeah brain is the scariest thing, because arguably that's the thing that makes you you23:09
BrainstormNew from Reddit (test): CoronaVirus_2019_nCoV: Nucleocapsid as a Next Generation COVID-19 Vaccine Candidate → https://old.reddit.com/r/CoronaVirus_2019_nCoV/comments/vw12eb/nucleocapsid_as_a_next_generation_covid19_vaccine/23:09
xxI shudder at the thought that I'd get brain damage and suddenly want everyone to breed23:09
BrainstormUpdates for Canada: +1071 cases since a day ago23:11
BrainstormNew from Reddit (test): Covid2019: New review of evidence highlights importance of adequate ventilation to prevent spread of COVID-19 in indoor settings | University of Bristol → https://old.reddit.com/r/Covid2019/comments/vw1cms/new_review_of_evidence_highlights_importance_of/23:18
BrainstormNew from Reddit (test): Covid2019: Innovative lung-imaging technique shows cause of long-COVID symptoms: "even if they hadn’t had a severe enough infection to be hospitalized, we are seeing this abnormality in the exchange of oxygen across the alveolar membrane into the [... want %more?] → https://old.reddit.com/r/Covid2019/comments/vw1shz/innovative_lungimaging_technique_shows_cause_of/23:47
LjLpfft, it's not brain damage so it's not long covid Brainstorm, shut up23:48

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