| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: ‘They’ve been an afterthought’: millions of elderly Americans still vulnerable as pandemic caution wanes → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/xo0c5r/theyve_been_an_afterthought_millions_of_elderly/ | 00:01 |
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| Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: (translated) Marc Veldhoen (@Marc_Veld): Ritual exclusion . Hold me tight, this is getting weirder!Vaccine, recovery or negative test. Really, if you don't understand the basics already leave the rest to adults and stop whining. twitter.com/estanaqui/stat… → https://twitter.com/Marc_Veld/status/1574161754006904832 | 00:29 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Bahrain: +423 cases, +7748 tests since a day ago | 01:11 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Saint Lucia: +449 cases, +638 tests since 11 days ago | 04:05 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Victoria, Australia: +2404 cases since a day ago — Sverdlovsk, Russia: +2289 cases since 23 hours ago — Samara, Russia: +2133 cases, +2 deaths since 23 hours ago — Perm, Russia: +1718 cases, +4 deaths since 23 hours ago | 08:01 |
| Brainstorm | New from Reddit (test): CoronaVirus_2019_nCoV: COVID-19 infections increase risk of long-term brain problems Strokes, seizures, memory and movement disorders among problems that develop in first year after infection → https://old.reddit.com/r/CoronaVirus_2019_nCoV/comments/xobd8w/covid19_infections_increase_risk_of_longterm/ | 08:33 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Marc Veldhoen (@Marc_Veld): COVID-19 mRNA vaccine effectiveness (second and first booster dose) against hospitalisation and death during Omicron BA.5 circulation: cohort study based on electronic health records, Portugal>80 yo, plain Wuhan vaccin. Good protection. eurosurveillance.org/content/10.280… → https://twitter.com/Marc_Veld/status/1574288543496736772 | 08:52 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Daily Discussion Thread | September 26, 2022: Please refer to our Wiki for more information on COVID-19 and our sub. You can find answers to frequently asked questions in our FAQ , where there is valuable information such as our: → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/xobv38/daily_discussion_thread_september_26_2022/ | 09:01 |
| Brainstorm | New from EMA: Human medicine assessment reports: (news): Human medicines European public assessment report (EPAR): Evusheld, tixagevimab,cilgavimab, COVID-19 virus infection, Date of authorisation: 25/03/2022, Revision: 1, Status: Authorised → https://www.ema.europa.eu/en/medicines/human/EPAR/evusheld | 10:07 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Marc Veldhoen (@Marc_Veld): Infectious diseases have always been there. That frequently occurs in countries where you do not live does not mean it will not affect you; that is the thing with infectious diseases; they can spread. Vaccines and medicine against Ebola are urgently required. [... want %more?] → https://twitter.com/Marc_Veld/status/1574311098425249792 | 10:17 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Marc Veldhoen (@Marc_Veld): Japan’s $2-billion initiative to prep pandemic vaccines in 100 days!A new centre will invest in shots for a range of infectious diseases so the country is ready for future outbreaks.nature.com/articles/d4158… → https://twitter.com/Marc_Veld/status/1574311557206577153 | 10:28 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/COVID19: COVID19: New COVID-19 - Alzheimer's (Dementia) Study → https://old.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/xodn63/new_covid19_alzheimers_dementia_study/ | 10:47 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: (translated) Marc Veldhoen (@Marc_Veld): The Lareb only records notifications, notifications that anyone can make, appropriate or inappropriate. The investigation into whether there is a relationship with vaccination or medication will then follow. Usually it isn't there.And no; Excess [... want %more?] → https://twitter.com/Marc_Veld/status/1574321250301779970 | 10:57 |
| Brainstorm | New from EMA: Human medicine assessment reports: (news): Human medicines European public assessment report (EPAR): Apexxnar, pneumococcal polysaccharide conjugate vaccine (20-valent, adsorbed), Pneumococcal Infections, Date of authorisation: 14/02/2022, Revision: 1, Status: Authorised → https://www.ema.europa.eu/en/medicines/human/EPAR/apexxnar | 11:35 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Shock figures show cocaine use soared during lockdown → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/xoemgj/shock_figures_show_cocaine_use_soared_during/ | 11:54 |
| Brainstorm | New from Politico: Coronavirus: Olaf Scholz tests positive for COVID-19 → https://www.politico.eu/article/olaf-scholz-tests-positive-for-covid-19/ | 12:13 |
| Brainstorm | New from BioNTech: Pfizer and BioNTech Submit Application to U.S. FDA for Emergency Use Authorization of Omicron BA.4/BA.5-Adapted Bivalent Vaccine Booster in Children 5 Through 11 Years of Age: NEW YORK and MAINZ, GERMANY, September 26, 2022 — [... want %more?] → https://investors.biontech.de/news-releases/news-release-details/pfizer-and-biontech-submit-application-us-fda-emergency-use-0 | 12:51 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for China: +4866 cases, +12 deaths since 23 hours ago — UAE: +342 cases, +1 deaths, +218610 tests since a day ago — Saudi Arabia: +161 cases, +2 deaths since a day ago — Liechtenstein: +53 cases since 4 days ago | 14:02 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/COVID19: Weekly Scientific Discussion Thread - September 26, 2022: This weekly thread is for scientific discussion pertaining to COVID-19. Please post questions about the science of this virus and disease here to collect them for others and clear up post space for [... want %more?] → https://old.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/xohabm/weekly_scientific_discussion_thread_september_26/ | 14:07 |
| Brainstorm | New from Reddit (test): nCoV: Global COVID Cases For 26SEP22 → https://old.reddit.com/r/nCoV/comments/xoi93k/global_covid_cases_for_26sep22/ | 14:46 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Latvia: +2677 cases, +8339 tests since 3 days ago — Qatar: +856 cases since a day ago | 15:04 |
| Brainstorm | New from Contagion Live: Assessing Excess Morality from COVID-19 Across US States: Investigators examined all-cause excess mortality and sought to uncouple it from COVID-19 in US states with high vaccination rates. → https://www.contagionlive.com/view/assessing-excess-morality-from-covid | 15:05 |
| Brainstorm | New from StatNews: Pharma: STAT+: Pharmalittle: GSK picks its first female CFO; Pfizer advances Omicron booster for kids → https://www.statnews.com/pharmalot/2022/09/26/covid19-vaccine-omicron-booster-gsk/ | 15:15 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/COVID19: COVID19: COVID-19 and seasonal flu vaccination hesitancy: Links to personality and general intelligence in a large, UK cohort → https://old.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/xoj2nc/covid19_and_seasonal_flu_vaccination_hesitancy/ | 15:25 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Eric Topol (@EricTopol): The #SARSCoV2 sewer sleuthsIt's one thing to track the burden of variants in wastewater; it's another to trace one to a specific office with <30 employeesnature.com/articles/d4158…@nature by @ewencallaway w/ phenomenal detective work by @SolidEvidence @dho [... want %more?] → https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/1574390014338686981 | 15:34 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/COVID19: COVID19: Generation and functional analysis of defective viral genomes during SARS-CoV-2 infection → https://old.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/xojtj6/generation_and_functional_analysis_of_defective/ | 15:54 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Bangladesh: +718 cases, +6 deaths, +5288 tests since a day ago — Bosnia and Herz.: +194 cases, +12 deaths, +4904 tests since 2 days ago | 16:06 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Camila Coelho, PhD, MBA (@camilahcoelho): Our collaboration with the NAVY demonstrating that immune memory responses to Omicron is superior in hybrid immunity (vax+infec), compared to infection only, is now published @iScience_CP. Collab: @Irene_RamosL @sindhuvangeti @Alba_Grifoni [... want %more?] → https://twitter.com/camilahcoelho/status/1574403198642573313 | 16:42 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/COVID19: COVID19: Safety of COVID-19 vaccination and acute neurological events: A self-controlled case series in England using the OpenSAFELY platform → https://old.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/xol92s/safety_of_covid19_vaccination_and_acute/ | 16:52 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Prof. Shane Crotty (@profshanecrotty): Key data that were added subsequently were (1), Demonstration that the long germinal centers were functional sites of antibody evolution for 6 full months, based on longitudinal affinity maturation from germline HC sequence to BCRs with [... want %more?] → https://twitter.com/profshanecrotty/status/1574411722022014976 | 17:01 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Denmark: +2572 cases, +13 deaths since 2 days ago | 17:08 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Long COVID Has Forced a Reckoning for One of Medicine’s Most Neglected Diseases → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/xolmih/long_covid_has_forced_a_reckoning_for_one_of/ | 17:11 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Eric Topol (@EricTopol): With Omicron variant infections, the protective effect of vaccination and boosters vs loss of smell and tastepapers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cf… pic.twitter.com/UhBozG5DB1 → https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/1574420154154295297 | 17:30 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Italy: +10006 cases, +32 deaths, +65697 tests since 23 hours ago | 19:00 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/COVID19: COVID19: Safety and immunogenicity of anti-SARS CoV-2 vaccine SOBERANA 02 in homologous or heterologous scheme: Open label phase I and phase IIa clinical trials → https://old.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/xooqqu/safety_and_immunogenicity_of_antisars_cov2/ | 19:17 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID19 Vaccine Tracker: (translated) valerie: AnGes: AG0301-COVID19 → https://covid19.trackvaccines.org/vaccines/3/ | 19:55 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Serbia: +2486 cases, +10 deaths since a day ago | 20:03 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID19 Vaccine Tracker: valerie: ACM Biolabs: ACM-001 → https://covid19.trackvaccines.org/vaccines/207/ | 20:05 |
| LjL | %print https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1574335412067352577 | 20:06 |
| Brainstorm | LjL, It says: Eric Feigl-Ding on Twitter: "Swabbing correctly for #COVID19? Most are not. @IamKGB tests— 1) VERY POS—back of throat, cheeks, roof of mouth & both nasopharyngeal w swab held in place for 10s. 2) NEG—outside portion of nostrils 3) NEG—anterior nares/nasal septum 4) FAINT POS—throat & cheeks 5) Repeated #1 https://t.co/HZRZzJUBsc" / Twitter | 20:06 |
| LjL | de-facto, swab properly! >: | 20:06 |
| de-facto | i made a swab on nostrils only on purpose, the quicktest showed a dark red test line even before the water reached the control strip | 20:09 |
| de-facto | Up the nostrils maybe 5cm or such | 20:11 |
| de-facto | Official swab goes in much deeper snd also came back positive | 20:12 |
| de-facto | Hence now i am officially a walking SARS-CoV-2 mothership | 20:13 |
| de-facto | Most likely highly infectious right now | 20:13 |
| LjL | de-facto, wut, you aren't quarantining? | 20:29 |
| de-facto | How am i supposed to reacb the official test station? I used the bicycle. | 20:30 |
| LjL | de-facto, some people i know have chosen to just not get the official test | 20:30 |
| LjL | but yeah that's a bit of an odd situation | 20:31 |
| LjL | if you need it to get days off works it can't be avoided | 20:31 |
| de-facto | Of course i am in isolation at home | 20:31 |
| LjL | but anyway you're going to quarantine afterwards, right? | 20:31 |
| LjL | tell me not everyone has gone crazy, because i already have a country with fascism back to deal with... | 20:31 |
| de-facto | I am in mandatory quarantine right now | 20:31 |
| LjL | ok | 20:32 |
| LjL | well, best luck. how are you feeling today? | 20:32 |
| de-facto | Pretty fine, severely sore throat, it hurts | 20:32 |
| LjL | i don't know if you'd like to use painkillers, but i have some ibuprofen (i think it is) that you can just spray in your throat. gastrointestinal effects are supposed to be minimal | 20:33 |
| de-facto | Other than a bit elevated pulse rate and bones hurting from time to time i am mostly fine | 20:33 |
| Brainstorm | New from Il Sole 24 Ore: (translated) Covid, the inflammatory syndrome that affects children, has a genetic cause: The application of this study will give the possibility to identify who has a higher risk of developing Mis-C, through the analysis of some genes → https://www.ilsole24ore.com/art/covid-sindrome-infiammatoria-che-colpisce-bambini-ha-causa-genetica-AEd4OX3B | 20:33 |
| LjL | it just helps a bit with sore throats without supposedly many of the adverse effects of oral ibuprofen | 20:33 |
| de-facto | No i wont take Ibuprofen, i am not sure how it would affect tbe immune system | 20:34 |
| LjL | de-facto, well it doesn't really get into your system much, you just spray it onto your tonsil... | 20:34 |
| LjL | anyway here's what i found about what it might be called in german, "he best equivalent of Benactiv Gola in Germany called Dobendan Direkt Flurbiprofen" | 20:35 |
| de-facto | interesting, well i cant go to a pharmacy anyhow right now | 20:35 |
| LjL | do you have anyone who can buy things for you? | 20:36 |
| de-facto | Yeah but i think i mostly have everything since i was prepping for two years :D | 20:37 |
| de-facto | Drinking Green Tea helps a bit | 20:42 |
| de-facto | I wonder how long it will take, officially i would have to isolate 5 days from now, i guess that is not sufficient though | 20:43 |
| LjL-Matrix | Do what you must, and then what you will | 21:29 |
| Brainstorm | New from Reddit (test): nCoV: Did a Famous Doctor’s COVID Shot Make His Cancer Worse? | 24SEP22 → https://old.reddit.com/r/nCoV/comments/xot6wp/did_a_famous_doctors_covid_shot_make_his_cancer/ | 21:41 |
| Tuvix | de-facto: Indeed, the "5 days" nonsense is so bad to be almost hilariously optimistic. Last rapid-test (at-home antigen) positive I had was still showing a faint line at 10 days past initial symptoms (and 12 days past the likely exposure.) And RATs are less sensitive than PCR, but any line probably means that I could have still spread it. | 21:47 |
| de-facto | Oh so you had it toom when? | 21:48 |
| Tuvix | Likely picked it up at a close-quarters indoor event first week this month, probably BA.5 but since we don't sequence (and don't really PCR at all anymore generally speaking) I'm just going on what was around at the time. | 21:49 |
| de-facto | yeah thats what i assume i got too | 21:50 |
| Tuvix | I know people who don't even want to take a RAT (even if they have spares still from the free ones the gov't gave out some months back) because our employers often don't pay you for time off. | 21:50 |
| de-facto | How did it go for you and how are you now? | 21:50 |
| Tuvix | I mean, some have policies that you get "up to 5 unpaid days off" or something, but if they won't pay the staff to isolate, why would they even bother to test? | 21:50 |
| Brainstorm | New from CIDRAP: COVID booster adds substantial protection against Omicron hospitalization: Mary Van Beusekom | News Writer | CIDRAP News Sep 26, 2022 Three doses of an mRNA vaccine were tied to a 59% lower odds of hospital care than 2 doses. → https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2022/09/covid-booster-adds-substantial-protection-against-omicron-hospitalization | 21:50 |
| Tuvix | It's a peverse incentive here to *not* test… and thus infect more. Great plan no? :\ | 21:51 |
| de-facto | Lol thats crazy | 21:51 |
| de-facto | Correction: insanity | 21:51 |
| Tuvix | I was pretty unhappy for 2 days or so; I didn't have work then, but if I did the 1st day would probably have been a proper day-off for me. Day 2 through recovery was okay, just a sore throat and a bit less than ideal. 3x Pfizer here, and now I won't schedule my 4th until infection + 3 months per the best recommendation I can find. | 21:52 |
| Tuvix | And that timing is fine, given that'll be early-December, and we still have several good months of cold/winter weather here for the protection that'll provide for the *next* exciting varients we'll be seeing then. | 21:52 |
| de-facto | how long did it take for you from first symptoms or pos test? | 21:54 |
| Tuvix | I got symptoms about 2 days after the club I assume I got exposed at, and tested about 24 hours after that. | 21:54 |
| de-facto | I mean the disease/recovery | 21:55 |
| Tuvix | Oh, 12 days past infection for the last RAT I took to have the most faint of lines (I never bothered with a follow-up, just avoided going anywhere another few days.) | 21:56 |
| de-facto | You were sick for almost two weeks? | 21:56 |
| Tuvix | I only felt really off about 2 or 3 days (day 1 was not fun, the rest was "just" a cough mostly.) But the RAT at infection + 12 days was still every-so-slightly showing positive, yea. | 21:57 |
| Tuvix | I just assume if the line is remotely visible on a RAT that I'm probably still able to infect others. | 21:57 |
| de-facto | I mean symptoms, how lobg did they last from first sign of disease? | 21:58 |
| Tuvix | Oh, about a week maybe? The cough went away after about 7 or 8 days and was less of a problem near the end of that. | 21:58 |
| de-facto | Oof so that week is then ahead fir me still | 21:59 |
| Tuvix | I mean, everyone has a slightly different experience too. | 21:59 |
| de-facto | And now, are you feeling fine again? | 22:00 |
| Tuvix | Yea, been fine for a couple weeks now. | 22:00 |
| de-facto | Glad to hear that :) | 22:00 |
| Tuvix | I felt quite decent at that 2-week point too, but the RAT still detected enough to "barely" show positive. | 22:00 |
| Tuvix | I just put off my grocery shopping and went deeper in the supply of dry food I have. I've got plenty of food, just not the "fun" stuff to make ;) | 22:01 |
| de-facto | Yeah i also prepped, probably would be able to live for months without shopping | 22:02 |
| de-facto | Tuvux anything you found out that you did not know before? | 22:03 |
| Tuvix | Even pre-pandemic I tended to keep bulk goods for more than I really needed. I'd just buy when there was a good sale so long as the expiration was good to add at the end of my rotation. | 22:03 |
| * de-facto cant type on touchscreens | 22:03 | |
| Tuvix | New information? Not really. I knew that positive (RAT and/or PCR) at >=10 days isn't uncommon even if not the majority, at least for Delta (Omicron is of course still "new" here.) Minor chills, low-grade fever, & cough for 1 to 2 weeks was about what I expected honestly. | 22:04 |
| Tuvix | Erm, the cought is all I had past symptoms + 24 hours. Chills/fever was just a day-of-symptoms thing. | 22:04 |
| Tuvix | I suppose I ought to get my seasonal influenza vaccine earlier than Dec; based on the southern-winter that's wrapping up, flu seems to be predicted possibly worse than average this year. | 22:07 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for France: +76878 cases, +73 deaths since 2 days ago — San Marino: +25 cases since 2 days ago — Papua New Guinea: +22 cases since 2 days ago — Eswatini: +11 cases since 7 days ago | 22:07 |
| de-facto | Yeah i hope it will behave for me too, wish me luck :p | 22:08 |
| Tuvix | The problem is here no one cares to test, the RATs are no longer freely shipped to your home (gov't ran out of money to support it and didn't allocate more for that program) and even if communities (like mine) offer free ones, they're not "easy" to get to physically or limit you to 1 per visit if you express a "need" for one. | 22:09 |
| de-facto | Yeah i had to pay 10 euro for an official RAT at station | 22:10 |
| de-facto | Stuuuupid | 22:10 |
| Tuvix | Why would the average worker _pay_ for a test, and then be told that their company policy is they are now required to take 5 _unpaid_ days off (but hey, at least they won't be fired for it.) | 22:10 |
| de-facto | Many people just wont bother to test anymore | 22:11 |
| Tuvix | Instead workers intentionally don't test so they don't have to take a hit on pay, which some can't aford if they aren't well-paid to begin. | 22:11 |
| de-facto | So the ifficial numbers are garbage niw | 22:11 |
| de-facto | At least the PCR was free after a | 22:12 |
| de-facto | pos RAT | 22:12 |
| Tuvix | I mean, I didn't get a PCR, so my test isn't in any official numbers either. I even tried to use the state-app that's intended to track exposure, but it only works if you have some agency report it for you. So that system's a joke too here. | 22:12 |
| de-facto | I just wanted it officially documentrd and also agreed that they register me with name etc | 22:13 |
| Tuvix | Yea, then it's at least in your clinic records, and maybe some percentage of those PCRs get sequenced for varient-tracking too. | 22:13 |
| de-facto | So i guess i am in a minority now appearing in the official stats | 22:14 |
| Tuvix | I mean, I had 2 RATs show positive, different brands & production dates at that, so I'm sure I had it. A PCR wouldn't have told me anything I didn't know. | 22:14 |
| de-facto | 96% BA.5.x | 22:14 |
| de-facto | So i am pretty sure thats what i git too then | 22:15 |
| Tuvix | BA.4.6 is a slim possibility for me, but BA.5.x is likely for me too. | 22:15 |
| Tuvix | https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#variant-proportions | 22:15 |
| de-facto | sorry for the bad typing, my thumbs are just too big for touchscreens | 22:17 |
| Tuvix | Thankfully both the vaccines & exposure all seem to have some degree of cross-varient protection; that may not prevent re-infection (in fact, it's quite likely not to do much for that) but should reduce any future symptom severity I have. | 22:17 |
| de-facto | yes hopefully | 22:18 |
| Tuvix | Hopefully that also means less chance of spreading it on, especially if I don't even realize symptoms. I worry more for people with compromised immune systems than forme. | 22:18 |
| de-facto | yet at some point those will be the most prevalent conditions against which a variant would have to spread in a population, so we will see i guess | 22:18 |
| de-facto | but i also hope to be preparing for the winter right now with the BA.5 infection | 22:18 |
| Tuvix | Yea, we'll have to see what winter brings. That BA.4.6 rise in the US has been curious. It hasn't exactly swept to a top position, but it's slowly displacaing BA.5 for percentages. | 22:20 |
| de-facto | i guess that means i wont need a vaccination the next few months though, allowing my immune system to optimize its response from what it hopefully learns right now | 22:22 |
| Tuvix | That's the takeaway I've heard from the medical community too; they say if you had a positive case, 3-months out is the ideal vaccination time (but they also generally suggest not waiting if you're eligible for a booster but not recently infected since it's too hard to "time" that reliably.) | 22:24 |
| de-facto | my third Moderna was 9 1/2 months ago, dec 2021 | 22:24 |
| Tuvix | The reality is that COVID is *not* a seasonal virus; it's quite happy to spread during the warm months too. | 22:25 |
| Tuvix | Yea, Nov 2021 for me. I was debating when to get my 4th Pfizer (ie: "2nd booster") when I caught the live one. That's one way for a boost, I suppose.. | 22:26 |
| de-facto | well all respiratoy viruses have some seasonality to them, because their transmission paths are subject to seasonal effects such as staying indoors in the winter, less air exchange etc | 22:26 |
| Tuvix | True, it just doesn't show as much especially for the US numbers where we've done a worse-than-average job of containing it. Like staying home when sick, and so on. | 22:26 |
| Tuvix | Last summer's Delta wave hit the US mid-summer, just as our numbers were recovering and until then starting to look decent. | 22:27 |
| de-facto | well yes but would that have potentially have been 40% faster growing in the winter? | 22:28 |
| Tuvix | Maybe? Omicron did hit at the fall/winter time here, although it's hard to compare since it also is easier to transmit. | 22:28 |
| de-facto | and also immunologic parameters for the average susceptible are time dependent | 22:29 |
| Tuvix | Being indoors more obviously doesn't help, but with businesses (and people in general) largely not bothering with masks anymore, any movement of people opens the door for exposure. | 22:29 |
| de-facto | e.g. the BA.5 wave depends on the BA.2 wave before etc | 22:29 |
| Tuvix | That too; there've been plenty of documented cases of getting back-to-back infections with a full recovery, just weeks apart. | 22:30 |
| Tuvix | (different VoC's there) | 22:30 |
| de-facto | yep | 22:31 |
| Tuvix | Too many people don't appreciate science for all its impercise nature. Getting infected (or vaccinated) isn't some magic shield. | 22:32 |
| Brainstorm | New from COVID on Twitter: Gunhild Alvik Nyborg (@GANyborg): Video clip on #LongCovid from @WHOWe need to drastically step up our efforts globally. Investigate, learn, and find better solutions. The current state is not sustainable. twitter.com/mrigankshail/s… → https://twitter.com/GANyborg/status/1574496020993654788 | 22:38 |
| LjL | %title https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2022/09/covid-booster-adds-substantial-protection-against-omicron-hospitalization | 22:44 |
| Brainstorm | LjL: From www.cidrap.umn.edu: COVID booster adds substantial protection against Omicron hospitalization | CIDRAP | 22:44 |
| LjL | though what i want to have now would be the early data on BA.4/BA.5 booster efficacy (in actual humans) vs BA.1 ones | 22:45 |
| LjL | i can't get the next booster until... shortly? they announced i could, but i still can't based on the website. i had my last (third shot)... 295 days ago. that's a few days ago. | 22:47 |
| LjL | (per green pass app :P) | 22:47 |
| LjL | but for now, you can only get a 4th dose if you're over 60 or other special cases | 22:47 |
| LjL | my parents did get it in July while in the alps, from a pharmacy there | 22:47 |
| LjL | honestly though i'm not in a *huge* rush because i really would like to figure out how BA.1 fares vs BA.4+5 | 22:48 |
| LjL | since the EMA authorized both | 22:48 |
| LjL | my parents, by getting it so early, got just the original version of the vaccine... they won't be able to get another until at least say December | 22:48 |
| LjL | but back then cases were very high, so i agree with their call | 22:49 |
| Brainstorm | New from CIDRAP: COVID-19 Scan for Sep 26, 2022: Repeat Omicron infections Bivalent COVID boosters for kids COVID vaccines in pregnancy → https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2022/09/covid-19-scan-sep-26-2022 | 22:58 |
| Tuvix | LjL: Yea, I was eligible and had I rushed for it maybe I could have gotten it before my positive-case earlier this month, but like you I wasn't in a hurry either. | 23:49 |
| Tuvix | In a way I was maybe thinking about the ideal protection over winter, but realistically I simply didn't jump at the chance the week or 2 it was offered to the under-50's here. And I'm not in a high-risk category either. My case wasn't severe by any means, so ultimately my prior protection did its job. | 23:50 |
| Tuvix | Yay, science. | 23:51 |
| LjL-Matrix | Tuvix: we try to do the most sensible things but then /dev/random is likely still the biggest player | 23:52 |
| Tuvix | Bloody entropy :P | 23:52 |
| Tuvix | (quick, someone find the API to set the Universe's random seed!) | 23:53 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Canada: +617 cases, +2 deaths since a day ago | 23:59 |
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