libera/##covid-19/ Saturday, 2022-10-01

BrainstormNew from COVID on Twitter: Eric Topol (@EricTopol): Already high before the pandemic, the alarming current rate (63%) and increase in physician burnout "We cared about quality of patients' experience, building relationships with them"nytimes.com/2022/09/29/hea… @oliverwhang21 w/ @JBryanSexton1 @JBryanSexton1 [... want %more?] → https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/157598758026427596801:25
BrainstormNew from COVID on Twitter: Trevor Mundel (@trevormundel): This continental collaboration paints an in-depth picture of how COVID-19 variants of concern spread across Africa, and demonstrates the impact of collaboration in responding to today’s global health challenges. Kudos to @houzhou and the hundreds of [... want %more?] → https://twitter.com/trevormundel/status/157600578074224640302:42
BrainstormNew from Politico: Coronavirus: World’s cartoonists on this week’s events → https://www.politico.eu/article/world-cartoonist-week-event-russia-ukraine-vladimir-putin-covid-iran-italy-election/04:07
BrainstormUpdates for Germany: +73856 cases, +116 deaths since a day ago05:10
BrainstormNew from This Week In Virology: TWiV 941: Clinical update with Dr. Daniel Griffin: In his weekly clinical update Dr. Griffin discusses increased acute respiratory illnesses among children and adolescents, estimates of monkeypox incubation period, generation time, and reproduction number, rapid increase in suspected SARS-CoV-2 [... want %more?] → https://www.microbe.tv/twiv/twiv-939/06:11
BrainstormUpdates for India: +3805 cases, +26 deaths, +637650 tests since 23 hours ago — Thailand: +823 cases, +4 deaths since a day ago07:02
BrainstormUpdates for Czechia: +3884 cases, +14 deaths since 23 hours ago — Emilia-Romagna, Italy: +3010 cases, +2 deaths since 23 hours ago — Berlin, Germany: +2541 cases, +4 deaths since 23 hours ago — New Jersey, United States: +2524 cases, +6 deaths since 23 hours ago08:04
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Daily Discussion Thread | October 01, 2022: Please refer to our Wiki for more information on COVID-19 and our sub. You can find answers to frequently asked questions in our FAQ , where there is valuable information such as our: → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/xsolyv/daily_discussion_thread_october_01_2022/09:02
BrainstormNew from r/COVID19: COVID19: Increased incidence of childhood type 1 diabetes during the COVID-19 pandemic. Figures from an Italian tertiary care center → https://old.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/xspaju/increased_incidence_of_childhood_type_1_diabetes/09:49
BrainstormUpdates for Taiwan: +43022 cases, +48 deaths, +61357 tests since a day ago10:09
BrainstormNew from Reddit (test): CoronavirusUK: Why you might be more likely to get long Covid if you ‘power through’ when you get virus → https://old.reddit.com/r/CoronavirusUK/comments/xsqqq8/why_you_might_be_more_likely_to_get_long_covid_if/11:43
BrainstormNew from COVID on Twitter: Daniel Paul (@GayKiwiDan): Long Covid: A Parallel Epidemic - with the amazing @VirusesImmunity A must watch. youtu.be/7lfGu_UA75A → https://twitter.com/GayKiwiDan/status/157614604742376652912:59
BrainstormNew from COVID on Twitter: (translated) Marc Veldhoen (@Marc_Veld): Trol Lee thinks science is a sales pitch... calls vaccines "pricks" and doesn't understand how they work. Doesn't understand food, thinks it stops viruses, but does have an opinion! pic.twitter.com/ybCIsIXu9n → https://twitter.com/Marc_Veld/status/157616810507556864013:18
BrainstormNew from Reddit (test): CoronaVirus_2019_nCoV: Study: Newer COVID-19 Variants Have Shorter Incubation Periods - lpha variant had an average incubation period of five days, while the Omicron variant has an average of 3.42 days. → https://old.reddit.com/r/CoronaVirus_2019_nCoV/comments/xstbbj/study_newer_covid19_variants_have_shorter/13:56
BrainstormUpdates for China: +4079 cases, +6 deaths since 19 hours ago — Philippines: +3726 cases, +34 deaths, +19246 tests since 23 hours ago14:05
BrainstormNew from Reddit (test): Global COVID Cases For 01OCT22: Summary As Of: 01OCT @ 12:10 GMT Countries 228 + 2 Cases 623,061,379 Deaths 6,549,624 Recovered 602,816,129 Active Cases 13,695,626 Countries reporting new cases: 52 Countries reporting new deaths: 29 Countries reporting increased Active [... want %more?] → https://old.reddit.com/r/nCoV/comments/xsu6c6/global_covid_cases_for_01oct22/14:44
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Luxembourg to Lift COVID Entry Restrictions for Non-EU Travellers on October 1 → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/xsujv7/luxembourg_to_lift_covid_entry_restrictions_for/15:22
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: California: Docs May Be Disciplined for Spreading COVID Lies → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/xsvvei/california_docs_may_be_disciplined_for_spreading/16:00
LjL-MatrixSince yesterday I'm meant to be eligible for a 4th dose, but the website is nothing short of kafkian, and I don't think I can really book it16:30
BrainstormNew from r/COVID19: COVID19: SARS-CoV-2 vaccine booster in solid organ transplant recipients previously immunised with inactivated versus mRNA vaccines: A prospective cohort study → https://old.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/xswuy7/sarscov2_vaccine_booster_in_solid_organ/16:58
BrainstormUpdates for Singapore: +3510 cases since 23 hours ago16:59
-Bridgestorm- ⭕ 地震! Earthquake! 6.1 M tremor, registered by yurekuru, with 9 reports, 9 early, occurred 2 minutes ago (15:02:34 UTC), during a crescent moon night, Kyushu, Japan (31.3, 131.45) ± 3 km, ↓25 km likely felt 280 km away (in 宮崎市, 日南市, 都城市, 鹿屋市, 鹿児島市, 串間市…) by 6.7 million people with maximum intensity Shindo 5+ → https://twitter.com/yurekuru/status/157622613360284057717:07
-Bridgestorm- https://twitter.com/yurekuru/status/1576226133833502720 (Twitter)17:07
-Bridgestorm- 🌒 地震! Earthquake! 6.1 M tremor, registered by alomax,yurekuru, with 49 reports, 16 early, occurred 8 minutes ago (15:02:31 UTC), during a crescent moon night, Kyushu, Japan (31.3, 131.51) ± 7 km, ↓20 km likely felt 340 km away with maximum intensity Shindo 5+ → https://twitter.com/yurekuru/status/1576226133833502720 (Twitter)17:11
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Latest Covid surge a ‘heavy straw on camel’s back’ for every hospital in UK → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/xsyelx/latest_covid_surge_a_heavy_straw_on_camels_back/18:04
BrainstormNew from COVID on Twitter: Eric Topol (@EricTopol): Why does advanced age pose such high risk for Covid?An experimental model that recapitulated human disease highlights impaired—delayed and insufficient— interferon (IFN) response, markedly increased viral replication, prevented with IFN [... want %more?] → https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/157624109239508172818:14
BrainstormNew from r/COVID19: COVID19: Impact of SARS-CoV-2 lockdown on expansion of HIV transmission clusters among key populations: A retrospective phylogenetic analysis → https://old.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/xsz53f/impact_of_sarscov2_lockdown_on_expansion_of_hiv/18:33
skep_hi de-facto19:12
skep_%cases india19:12
Brainstormskep_: India has had 44.6 million confirmed cases (3.3% of all people) and 528655 deaths (1.2% of cases; 1 in 2573 people) as of 12 hours ago. 895.1 million tests were done (0.7 per capita, 5.0% positive). 857.8 million were vaccinated (63.1%). +3805 cases, +26 deaths, +637650 tests since 23 hours ago. See https://www.mygov.in/covid-19 or https://www.covid19india.org/19:12
skep_0_____019:12
skep_Brainstorm: ?19:13
Brainstormskep_: are you saying that the whole last year - and that's not the same happened in the face of covid do have some specific DNA? Sounds "racist" to me, for people to do in a poor way too19:13
skep_.cases India19:13
Brainstormskep_: India has had 44.6 million confirmed cases (3.3% of all people) and 528655 deaths (1.2% of cases; 1 in 2573 people) as of 12 hours ago. 895.1 million tests were done (0.7 per capita, 5.0% positive). 857.8 million were vaccinated (63.1%). +3805 cases, +26 deaths, +637650 tests since 23 hours ago. See https://www.mygov.in/covid-19 or https://www.covid19india.org/19:13
skep_>.<19:13
BrainstormNew from COVID on Twitter: Eric Topol (@EricTopol): Over 30 people have died from the tragedy of Hurricane Ian. But still ~440 Americans are still dying every day from Covid. pic.twitter.com/pkD6p4lhGs → https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/157626256660661862419:31
skep_i think de-facto is away19:32
skep_cya19:32
BrainstormUpdates for Italy: +33068 cases, +38 deaths, +171241 tests since a day ago — Montenegro: +178 cases, +926 tests since 22 hours ago20:00
BrainstormUpdates for Malaysia: +4878 cases since 23 hours ago21:02
TimvdeLjL-Matrix: I'll have my booster next Thursday :)22:04
LjLI'll have my booster next SIGSEGV 500 Internal Server Error22:08
LjLI believe22:08
BrainstormNew from r/COVID19: COVID19: Cuban Abdala vaccine: Effectiveness in preventing severe disease and death from COVID-19 in Havana, Cuba; A cohort study → https://old.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/xt223y/cuban_abdala_vaccine_effectiveness_in_preventing/22:33
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Sweden removes the recommendation for vaccination against COVID of healthy children and adolescents under 18 → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/xt47ks/sweden_removes_the_recommendation_for_vaccination/22:42
TimvdeLjL: lol, yikes :p22:49
LjLTimvde, it starts giving you hints about how it's gonna be immediately. it says categories eligible are "- people over 12; - people over 12 with vulnerabilities"22:50
LjLyou know right there someone didn't take his set theory22:50
BrainstormNew from r/COVID19: COVID19: A Case Report: Multifocal Necrotizing Encephalitis and Myocarditis after BNT162b2 mRNA Vaccination against COVID-19 → https://old.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/xt5sl1/a_case_report_multifocal_necrotizing_encephalitis/22:52
TimvdeHehe :p22:53
TimvdeI read the abstract and have no idea what it means22:54
TimvdeSpike proteins from the vaccine staying in the body?22:55
LjLTimvde, eh... it says, he had this thing in his brain, and he also had S-protein, so since there were some previous hints of the S-protein causing them, this corroborates them22:59
LjLmaybe, sure, but correlation not causation, and considering he had a bunch of other ailments, I'd be wary to ascribe too much to it23:00
LjLwhen it says "Surprisingly, only spike protein but no nucleocapsid protein could be detected" that says it's surprising because it means he did have the vaccine but he never had COVID23:01
LjLor at least COVID wasn't there23:01
BrainstormNew from COVID on Twitter: (translated) Marc Veldhoen (@Marc_Veld): However, the author goes out of his way to establish a correlation between vaccination and symptoms. This isn't scientific and, even if there was a connection, it does a huge disservice to others who do have potential side effects. → https://twitter.com/Marc_Veld/status/157631518911250432023:01
LjLmeanwhile nope, I still cannot book my vaccine23:02
LjLI've only gone 300 days without a booster, should be fine23:02
LjLespecially with cases rising23:02
BrainstormUpdates for Canada: +845 cases, +9 deaths since 23 hours ago23:06
TimvdeLjL: I mostly didn't really understand whatthey were trying to say23:08
TimvdeLol, is that the exact same article? :P23:09
TimvdeThanks, Marc23:09
LjL-MatrixTimvde: too lazy to get all he tweeted translated, but sounds like it is. We're all here like hawks to dissect papers we don't like into pieces :P23:12
TimvdeI didn't need a translation :P23:12
Timvde(although for a second I thought Twitter was auto-translated from English to Dutch, as some constructs are a bit weird/wrong)23:13
LjL-MatrixCheck your prijviledge :p23:13
LjL-Matrixde-facto: daily check-in23:15
TimvdeYou have a daily check-in? :P23:16
LjL-MatrixTimvde: he's had covid for a couple of days, it's just a dubiously funny way of asking if he's still okay23:26
de-factohuh?23:33
de-factoyes i am feeling completely fine already23:34
de-factothanks for asking23:34
LjL-MatrixAbsolutely fine with no exceptions23:34
de-factoof course, still in isolation though23:36
de-factowith no exceptions23:36
TimvdeLjL-Matrix: oh...23:44
Timvdede-facto: were you very sick?23:44
de-factonot really, i got a sore throat last Sunday, quicktested positive, made a PCR with CT 18 on Monday (hence 5bln copies/ml or such), sure throat went away on maybe Wed, got a runny nose and a bit of cough, now all the symptoms seem to settle23:48
de-factoi guess i still would test positive though, hence in isolation23:49
TimvdeSimilar to me, except I didn't even have a runny nose23:49
TimvdeI read in about original antigenic sin in our mainstream media, is there any recent news about it?23:50
LjL-Matrixde-facto: you still have PCRs! Blows the mind23:51
de-factoit would have cost 40€ but was free for me because i had a pos quicktest23:51
de-factoi had to phone after the result though and talk them into emailing it to me23:52
LjL-MatrixTimvde: not that I know of but I'm not sure how else they explain the "meh" result of the BA.1 specific vaccine23:52
de-factobecause somehow the "standard case" is stuck in their computer system23:52
de-factoi still can not register the test in the CovidWarn App23:52
de-factoits shown as "pending"23:52
de-factowell thank you23:52
de-factowhen can i start sending out warning beacons with the app?23:52
de-factoin maybe 2-3 months or such?23:52
LjL-Matrixde-facto: yeah but here and in most other places I hear about nowadays even if you have your own positive self test, they'll just give you another, "official", rapid test, no PCR anymore unless you're a special category. I can say this at least for Italy, the UK and Greece23:53
TimvdePCRs are also still free here if you claim to have symptoms23:53
de-factoi wanted it to be officially documented23:53
de-factonow i have to get that PCR through the registering pipeline23:53
TimvdeLjL-Matrix: maybe because we're way past BA.1 already :/23:54
TimvdeVaccines are always lagging23:54
de-factoi will look into that next week, calling all the people and be maximum annoying to them23:54
LjL-MatrixThey'll officially document it here already. Just, with a pharmacy rapid test.23:54
LjL-MatrixTimvde: it was tested in BA.1 though. I'm not talking about a meh result on people (they've barely started giving it to people), the meh result was in vitro23:54
TimvdeOh :/23:55
LjL-MatrixTimvde: it was something like it gave you less than twice as many Omicron specific antibodies as the original vaccine. "Twice" might sound good but it really isn't, last booster was an order of magnitude more times23:55
TimvdeThat kinda sucks23:55
de-factonow i am thinking about when i can start rinsing my nasal cavity with saline to remove the inactive virions, i guess it may be beneficial to leave them there for some time in order for my immune cells to study them in detail23:56
de-factobut on the other hand i also would like to get rid of a stuffy nose feeling, so maybe i also will start with that next week23:56
LjL-MatrixTimvde: that's probably why America went straight with the BA.4/5 vaccine even though it hadn't been tested on people yet... At least those variants were in circulation. Now it's approved I  Europe too (still without a human trial AFAIK?) and in Italy I don't know whether I'll be given one or the other. You aren't allowed to choose.23:56
de-factoit also would be interesting to see if that would lead to a negative test result faster as no new virions are refilling the stockpile of inactive ones23:56
LjL-Matrixde-facto: rinse your nose with green tea23:57
de-factolol actually i though about that23:57
LjL-MatrixQED23:57
de-factoi think i would have done it if it would have been more severe23:57
de-factoit helpend with the sore throat i think, at least i got the feeling that it hurt less when drinking the tea23:57
TimvdeI'm pretty sure my vaccine next week will be BA.123:57
LjL-MatrixTimvde: one kinda sucks, the other is proven safe on hamsters. Pick your poison :p23:58
LjL-MatrixOr, don't pick it23:58
LjL-MatrixLet the state roll the dice for you so at least you can complain later23:59
LjL-Matrix</Italian>23:59
TimvdeWe can't choose either23:59
TimvdeIt's Pfizer, after three Modernas23:59

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