| LjL | <Brainstorm> New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: World’s slow recognition of airborne transmission of COVID was ‘most egregious public health error in modern history’ → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/ye6vhv/worlds_slow_recognition_of_airborne_transmission/ | 00:08 |
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| LjL | i disagree | 00:08 |
| LjL | it's up there with a bunch of other COVID-related ones | 00:08 |
| LjL | just going ahead and saying it's the most egregious... come on, let's have a good chat on what was worst | 00:08 |
| xx | honestly all of it was just horribly bad reaction and wishful thinking from all sides | 00:11 |
| demonTal | I'd say leaded gasoline has to be up there | 00:14 |
| ublx | LjL: on that page, is the user Slideover71 a bot, do you think? | 00:23 |
| ublx | when first i loaded the page, Slideover71 had a comment saying something 'like why hasn't this garbage posted been removed?' | 00:24 |
| ublx | this comment got some static from other users | 00:24 |
| ublx | when i refreshed, the comment had disappeared, and had been replaced by <Slideover71> Absolutely! | 00:25 |
| LjL | ublx, didn't read the reddit thread but now... yes that's all i see | 00:25 |
| ublx | looking at the Slideover71 reddit posting history, it's a bit... | 00:25 |
| LjL | probably got his comment deleted and then made something that virtually nobody will get is sarcasm or something | 00:25 |
| ublx | where ... = wtf | 00:25 |
| ublx | can't tell if self-correcting bot or... why even would a user with that posting history be on /r/coronavirus | 00:27 |
| LjL | ublx, there is now "Surprised this garbage post hasn’t been shutdown yet. Sigh." by r/Aardark235 | 00:30 |
| LjL | anyway i don't know why you keep conspiratorially thinking everyone is a bot | 00:31 |
| LjL | are you somehow under the delusion people can't just be idiots? | 00:31 |
| ublx | not everyone.. just.. i've seen you call out bot accounts and wondered how one might tell | 00:31 |
| ublx | this accounts posting a tirade, then deleting it, and replacing it with Absolutely.. well i didn't imagine it was sarcasm | 00:32 |
| ublx | am not a reddit whisperer | 00:32 |
| LjL | it was fairly obvious those were bot accounts, especially after evidence accumulated in the form of there being more and more of them | 00:33 |
| LjL | here you have one user doing one slightly odd things after likely having their post removed | 00:33 |
| LjL | don't stop the press | 00:33 |
| LjL | it's about patterns. | 00:34 |
| LjL | not about the odd oddity | 00:34 |
| * ublx ponders whether Brainstorm might be sentient and if LjL is his favourite sock puppet | 00:37 | |
| * Brainstorm starts to do good ublx with some skillful favorable position | 00:37 | |
| ublx | O_o | 00:37 |
| LjL | he good | 00:40 |
| ublx | oh maybe it didn't get deleted. just can't see downvoted comments without javascript enabled maybe | 00:42 |
| ublx | ok i think i grabbed the wrong nick | 00:43 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Lancet (Online): [Viewpoint] The legacy of the COVID-19 pandemic for childhood vaccination in the USA: Before the onset of the COVID-19 pandemic, achievements in childhood vaccine coverage in the USA and globally appeared imperiled. Misinformation about vaccines was pervasive.1 [... want %more?] → https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(22)01693-2/fulltext | 00:44 |
| ublx | i'm blaming yesterday's moderna shot, which left me feeling fairly delirious | 00:45 |
| LjL | ublx, what did you get, the marginally better one or one of the two equally meh ones | 00:45 |
| ublx | unlike prior pfizer shots which produced no particular effect at all | 00:46 |
| LjL | Moderna's stronker, is well known | 00:46 |
| ublx | well i guess i found that out | 00:46 |
| LjL | now you'll protect from COVID everyone in a 5m radius from you | 00:46 |
| LjL | all the spikeys do that | 00:47 |
| ublx | it was pretty weird, very.. i don't know how to describe it | 00:47 |
| LjL | Spikey would have been a better name than SpikeVax | 00:47 |
| ublx | like having a mental derangements of a fever but without the fever | 00:47 |
| LjL | ublx, ... myocardial? | 00:47 |
| LjL | oh | 00:47 |
| LjL | brain inflammation, sounds like nothing to be worried about | 00:48 |
| ublx | we talked briefly about this. it was moderna bivalent BA1.yaddayadda | 00:48 |
| LjL | just don't mix names on antivax.org or you may think it'll actively kill you | 00:48 |
| LjL | oh yes the very specific one | 00:48 |
| LjL | tbf, i've not been unhappy to always get Pfizer | 00:49 |
| LjL | i know that maybe mixing helps | 00:49 |
| LjL | but the first Pfizer gave me no ill effects | 00:49 |
| LjL | the second Pfizer gave me no ill effects | 00:49 |
| LjL | the third Pfizer gave me no ill effects | 00:49 |
| LjL | and, as you might have guessed by now, the fourth Pfizer gave me no ill effects | 00:49 |
| xx | and did covid give you ill effects? | 00:49 |
| LjL | no | 00:49 |
| demonTal | did you get covid LjL? | 00:50 |
| LjL | no | 00:50 |
| xx | sounds good then | 00:50 |
| LjL | what doesn't sound good is that on my italian news source on COVID, the vaccinated and the unvaccinated are coming VERY close even on ICU occupation and death | 00:51 |
| LjL | on catching it, they're indistinguishable | 00:51 |
| xx | I never considered a vaccine as the primary form of defense. Avoiding people should be the priority. Just like hepatitis vaccine is not a free ticket to never wash hands again. | 00:52 |
| LjL | stupid thing doesn't let me link to the thing i want to thing | 00:52 |
| LjL | but | 00:52 |
| LjL | https://lab24.ilsole24ore.com/numeri-vaccini-italia-mondo/ | 00:52 |
| LjL | go to "Incidenza casi, ricoveri e decessi per stato vaccinale" | 00:52 |
| LjL | the default graph is about ICU ("TI") | 00:52 |
| LjL | try picking "decessi" (deaths) | 00:52 |
| LjL | and then "casi" (cases, duh) | 00:53 |
| LjL | the annoying thing is not that there is no difference, but that there WAS a difference. Omicron was good at squishing that. | 00:53 |
| ublx | and BQ is supposed to be even more evasive | 00:54 |
| LjL | i suspect they swapped the "<" and ">" in the descriptions, though, because that makes no sense | 00:54 |
| LjL | ublx, yet a child of BA.1, so mine mice-tested BA.5 Pfizer is even more useless \o/ | 00:55 |
| ublx | buy a fake moustache and glasses and go back and get BA.1 series vaccine? | 00:56 |
| ublx | how tight are the identification protocols there? | 00:56 |
| LjL | ublx, tight enough | 00:57 |
| LjL | i have to get my healthcare card scanned | 00:57 |
| LjL | to be fair, that's not very tight because it doesn't have a picture | 00:58 |
| LjL | but i am not very likely to be my dad or my mom | 00:58 |
| LjL | or my sister, for that matter | 00:58 |
| LjL | maybe i should have practiced | 00:58 |
| LjL | ublx, but, get this, new healthcare cards are being issued without a chip - with recipients being advised to keep the old card too, in case - as the government couldn't secure a chip supply this year | 00:59 |
| LjL | they're not iGPU chips doing medical research in our wallets, to be clear | 01:00 |
| LjL | they're the same chips you have in credit cards or SIMs | 01:00 |
| ublx | what if your evil cousin stole your healthcare card and stole your shot, fled the civilised world, and is now far far away beyond reach, in rome? | 01:00 |
| LjL | do i look like someone who wants police involved in anything | 01:01 |
| LjL | because i sometimes did, but i usually regretted it | 01:01 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Guatemala: +730 cases, +3 deaths since 21 hours ago | 01:01 |
| LjL | ublx, when i got my shot i caught a glimpse of her computer screen, and i saw a list of vaccines, i saw COVID and the only other one i managed to see was Herpes Zoster | 01:03 |
| LjL | which is just a "funny" thing | 01:03 |
| LjL | you can get a shingles vaccines here, at 60 | 01:03 |
| LjL | the bad one (Zostavax), but you can get it for free | 01:03 |
| LjL | at 60 | 01:03 |
| LjL | exactly 60 | 01:03 |
| LjL | if you're 61, you need not apply | 01:03 |
| ublx | ? | 01:03 |
| ublx | wait, not 59.9 and not 60? | 01:04 |
| LjL | yes, you can't get it at 59, you can't get it at 61, but if you're lucky enough to have heard of it when you're precisely 60, then you can get it | 01:04 |
| xx | I haven't looked into in detail but what's wrong with zostavax? | 01:04 |
| LjL | oh please | 01:04 |
| LjL | xx, very unefficacious, 50% or so | 01:04 |
| LjL | Shingrix is over 90% | 01:04 |
| LjL | my parents wouldn't mind getting that | 01:04 |
| LjL | especially considering both the COVID vaccines and COVID come with increased changes of shingles | 01:04 |
| LjL | but Shringrix *privately* is uh, €350 i think? | 01:05 |
| ublx | changing shingles is the worst! | 01:05 |
| LjL | or €450, something like that | 01:05 |
| ublx | your typos are getting as bad as mine | 01:05 |
| LjL | i always make that typo | 01:05 |
| LjL | it was that bad when you weren't even born | 01:05 |
| ublx | i'm beginning to wonder whether i haven't had covid without realising it | 01:05 |
| LjL | internet kiddo | 01:05 |
| LjL | i'm beginning to wonder whether uh i won't say it in logged channels | 01:06 |
| ublx | my mental clarity, such as it was, definitely seems to have jumped of a cliff this year | 01:06 |
| ublx | also, off | 01:06 |
| LjL | go on a quest for the ever-evanescent N-protein assay | 01:07 |
| LjL | i keep telling people that | 01:07 |
| LjL | nobody did it! | 01:07 |
| * ublx scribbles on notepad | 01:07 | |
| * ublx loses notepad | 01:07 | |
| LjL | ublx, i wonder if one could make a surrogate cognitive deterioration index based on IRC logs | 01:08 |
| LjL | or... social media in general, but i don't *wonder* that, i am sure they do it | 01:08 |
| ublx | probably | 01:08 |
| LjL | ublx, you call yourself paranoid but when i type things into google or the google search box in the browser (okay, i've already lost right there) i sometimes wonder whether they're keeping track of all my backspace and graphing my mental decline for insurance companies | 01:09 |
| ublx | i'd be kinda amazed if some such measure wasn't aggregated into their 'file' on you/everyone | 01:11 |
| Brainstorm | New from Reddit (test): CoronaVirus_2019_nCoV: Comparative spike mutations of BQ.1.1, XBB, and Delta variants of SARS-CoV-2. Those highlighted are among the most immune evasive mutations to date (source forbes, link in post) → https://old.reddit.com/r/CoronaVirus_2019_nCoV/comments/yebzy3/comparative_spike_mutations_of_bq11_xbb_and_delta/ | 01:22 |
| Brainstorm | New from Reddit (test): CoronaVirus_2019_nCoV: RSV and the ‘Tripledemic’: What you need to know - the concern is that if you get one, two or three of these viruses at the same time people are going to get quite ill.” → https://old.reddit.com/r/CoronaVirus_2019_nCoV/comments/yecvgb/rsv_and_the_tripledemic_what_you_need_to_know_the/ | 02:00 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Canada: +2317 cases, +52 deaths since 22 hours ago | 02:04 |
| LjL | ublx, if i had to guess on my mental decline and rule out other arguably more obvious causes, i had a high but brief mystery fever in 2016, and ever since i've felt like shit periodically, like i said i had a "mini cold" every two weeks. but "mini" being it lasts just two-three days, and my nose doesn't actually get clogged. but right now, fwiw, i'm feeling pretty miserable, even though i woke up fine. i predict i'll be miserable tomorrow and then maybe not anymore. | 02:11 |
| LjL | and it's really not psychologic. i thought myself that it could be this morning, but, it isn't, there's a line | 02:12 |
| ublx | must be frustrating not to have blood work point at a culprit | 02:32 |
| LjL | ublx, no idea what to even look for. i was chasing EBV for a while (but that wasn't 2016), because i had a huge spike in IgM | 02:33 |
| LjL | right now i feel like i'm sweating but you could put that down to paracetamol except i was feeling it before too | 02:33 |
| LjL | like my head's overheating badly | 02:33 |
| LjL | my forehead *is* sweating | 02:33 |
| LjL | i think i had a cold sore today, but i take acyclovir prophylactically because at some point i had a cold sore every week or so and it was FUCKING annoying | 02:34 |
| LjL | especially because... this is how i feel when i have them. it's not just the thing itself | 02:34 |
| LjL | i'm not *sure* i had a cold sore today, because the prophylactic acyclovir is mostly doing its job, so it was barely visible, i just had a bit of paresthesia sensations, and that's it | 02:35 |
| LjL | but too bad if it stops the blisters but not the accompanying shittiness | 02:35 |
| LjL | although tbf i take a small amount, the standard prophylaxis is double what i take | 02:36 |
| ublx | shouldn't paracetamol move you in the opposite direction of feeling like you're sweating? | 02:44 |
| LjL | no | 02:45 |
| LjL | it lowers fever | 02:45 |
| LjL | you lower your temperature by sweating | 02:45 |
| LjL | though, i don't have a fever in the first place | 02:46 |
| LjL | rule of thumb when fever is rising you have chills, when it's going down you feel sweaty' | 02:47 |
| ublx | hm | 02:47 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Norway: +145 cases since 23 hours ago | 03:06 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Germany: +78905 cases, +196 deaths since a day ago | 05:10 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Tennessee, United States: +5356 cases, +57 deaths since 7 days ago | 07:02 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Pennsylvania, United States: +11779 cases, +123 deaths since 2 days ago — Hokkaido, Japan: +5572 cases, +4 deaths since a day ago — Indiana, United States: +4463 cases, +37 deaths since 7 days ago — Emilia-Romagna, Italy: +3382 cases, +20 deaths since a day ago | 08:04 |
| Brainstorm | New from BMJ: Seven days in medicine: 19-25 October 2022: Covid-19Infection links to worse heart health, study showsA study of 53 613 UK Biobank participants, 17 871 of whom had covid-19 between March 2020 and March 2021, found that those who were treated in hospital for covid-19 were 27 times as likely to develop venous [... want %more?] → http://www.bmj.com/content/379/bmj.o2546.short | 08:16 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Daily Discussion Thread | October 27, 2022: Please refer to our Wiki for more information on COVID-19 and our sub. You can find answers to frequently asked questions in our FAQ , where there is valuable information such as our: → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/yel0rw/daily_discussion_thread_october_27_2022/ | 09:03 |
| Brainstorm | New from EMA: Human medicine assessment reports: (news): Human medicines European public assessment report (EPAR): Nuvaxovid, COVID-19 Vaccine (recombinant, adjuvanted), COVID-19 virus infection, Date of authorisation: 20/12/2021, Revision: 6, Status: Authorised → https://www.ema.europa.eu/en/medicines/human/EPAR/nuvaxovid | 10:36 |
| Brainstorm | New from PubMed: Clinical predictors of recovery of COVID-19 associated-abnormal liver function test 2 months after hospital discharge: This study investigated whether acute liver injury (ALI) persisted and identified predictors of ALI recovery [as indicated by alanine aminotransferase (ALT) level] at hospital discharge and 2 [... want %more?] → https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36289394/ | 11:05 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Israel: +781 cases since 23 hours ago — Tamil Nadu, India: +183 cases since a day ago — Telangana, India: +79 cases since a day ago — Puducherry, India: +33 cases since 3 days ago | 11:05 |
| Brainstorm | New from Reddit (test): nCoV: Global COVID Cases For 27OCT22 → https://old.reddit.com/r/nCoV/comments/yeolso/global_covid_cases_for_27oct22/ | 12:48 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for China: +7474 cases, +8 deaths since 23 hours ago — Indonesia: +3029 cases, +23 deaths, +62045 tests since 21 hours ago | 13:03 |
| Brainstorm | New from BBC Health: Warning over private over-the-counter blood tests: Doctors are concerned the tests can put extra pressures on GPs and cause anxiety for patients. → https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-63411852 | 13:54 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: China locks down part of Wuhan, nearly three years after first Covid case emerged | China | The Guardian → https://old.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/yepuuz/china_locks_down_part_of_wuhan_nearly_three_years/ | 14:22 |
| Brainstorm | New from ECDC: ECDC: Data on the daily number of new reported COVID-19 cases and deaths by EU/EEA country → https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/publications-data/data-daily-new-cases-covid-19-eueea-country | 14:32 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Hong Kong: +6062 cases, +8 deaths since 23 hours ago | 15:02 |
| Brainstorm | New from StatNews: Pharma: STAT+: Pharmalittle: Italy probes Pfizer over profit transfers; FDA postpones meeting for OTC birth control pill → https://www.statnews.com/pharmalot/2022/10/27/pfizer-contraceptives-gsk-merck-moderna-covid19-vaccines/ | 15:29 |
| LjL-Matrix | Italy schmitaly | 15:45 |
| LjL-Matrix | Such great things are coming soon from the country | 15:45 |
| LjL-Matrix | Prepare your popcorn | 15:45 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/COVID19: COVID19: The SARS-CoV-2 S1 Spike Protein Promotes MAPK and NF-kB Activation in Human Lung Cells and Inflammatory Cytokine Production in Human Lung and Intestinal Epithelial Cells → https://old.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/yesbfh/the_sarscov2_s1_spike_protein_promotes_mapk_and/ | 15:48 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for UAE: +313 cases, +339298 tests since a day ago | 16:10 |
| Brainstorm | New from ClinicalTrials.gov: (translated) Baby2Home (B2H) Mobile Health Application: Conditions: COVID-19 Pandemic; Health Knowledge, Attitudes, Practice; Perinatal Depression; Mental Health Wellness; Postpartum Depression → https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT05595486 | 17:14 |
| Brainstorm | New from ClinicalTrials.gov: (news): SARS CoV-2 Viral Persistence Study (PASC) - Study of Long COVID-19 → https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT05595369 | 17:33 |
| ublx | bmj says awooga: https://www.bmj.com/content/379/bmj.o2550 | 17:47 |
| ublx | if you had an illness scheduled for this winter in the UK, try to have it five years from now instead | 17:47 |
| LjL | i feel sick but i won't enact covid protocols until i have a sore throat | 17:48 |
| * LjL chain-eats mints | 17:49 | |
| ublx | ugh: "The number of patients in hospital with covid-19 in England has risen to well over 1000 a day over the past few weeks." | 17:50 |
| LjL | ublx, there's a reason daily numbers are no longer given eh | 17:51 |
| LjL | which is about to happen here as well | 17:51 |
| ublx | LjL: since you're not in the UK you are hereby granted permission to proceed with your ailment directly | 17:51 |
| LjL | nah it's the same here, everything slowed down to a crawl if not a halt | 17:51 |
| LjL | in 2020 Lombardy didn't even manage to buy enough flu vaccines | 17:52 |
| LjL | good thing there wasn't a flu season, but they couldn't know that | 17:52 |
| LjL | everyone was like, it's super important to get flu vaccine to avoid overwhelming system | 17:52 |
| LjL | and then they had no flu vaccines to give us | 17:52 |
| ublx | the linked article says we're expecting a bumper flu season this time | 17:52 |
| LjL | yes | 17:52 |
| LjL | *and* RSV | 17:52 |
| Brainstorm | New from ClinicalTrials.gov: (news): Immune Registry for Organ Transplantation From COVID Positive Donors. → https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT05595837 | 18:02 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for North Macedonia: +67 cases, +3 deaths, +659 tests since 19 hours ago | 18:02 |
| Brainstorm | New from ClinicalTrials.gov: (news): Study to Evaluate Safety, Tolerability, Efficacy and Pharmacokinetics of ASC10 in Mild to Moderate COVID-19 Patients → https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT05596045 | 18:11 |
| Brainstorm | New from ClinicalTrials.gov: (news): A Study to Evaluate the Safety, Tolerability, and Immunogenicity of Combined Modified RNA Vaccine Candidates Against COVID-19 and Influenza → https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT05596734 | 18:20 |
| Brainstorm | New from ClinicalTrials.gov: (news): Safety and Efficacy of Medications COVID-19 → https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT05596617 | 18:30 |
| Brainstorm | New from ClinicalTrials.gov: (news): Prospective Field Study to Validate the Diagnostic Performance of the IVD CAPSULE COVID-19-NP Test for the Detection of SARS-CoV-2 on abioSCOPE → https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT05596032 | 18:49 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Chile: +8274 cases, +23 deaths since a day ago — Italy: +31758 cases, +94 deaths, +205738 tests since 23 hours ago | 19:04 |
| Brainstorm | New from ClinicalTrials.gov: (news): Open Multicenter Study for Assessment of Efficacy and Safety of Molnupiravir in Adult Patients With COVID-19 → https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT05595824 | 19:08 |
| Brainstorm | New from ClinicalTrials.gov: (news): Use of Multiple Doses of Convalescent Plasma in Mechanically Intubated Patients With COVID-19 → https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT05595538 | 19:18 |
| Brainstorm | New from WebMD: How the Pandemic Changed You (and You May Not Even Know It): Scientists have been documenting the many ways we’re all different now. Here’s what the research shows, and what it means for you. → https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20221027/how-the-pandemic-changed-you | 19:36 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for United Kingdom: +711 deaths since 22 hours ago — Canada: +2682 cases, +56 deaths since 23 hours ago | 20:00 |
| Brainstorm | New from Reddit (test): CoronaVirus_2019_nCoV: Mechanism behind deadly fungal infection on top of influenza or Covid-19 deciphered | UZ Leuven → https://old.reddit.com/r/CoronaVirus_2019_nCoV/comments/yf02rq/mechanism_behind_deadly_fungal_infection_on_top/ | 21:01 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Malaysia: +2762 cases, +4 deaths since 23 hours ago | 21:02 |
| LjL | "Researchers from Florida State University and other institutions compared data pre-pandemic versus later and found declines in four traits: extroversion, openness, agreeableness, and conscientiousness. The changes were about “one-tenth of a standard deviation,” roughly the level of personality change you’d expect to see over a decade – not 2 years. A fifth trait, neuroticism, also increased in young adults." | 21:08 |
| Brainstorm | New from Reddit (test): CoronaVirus_2019_nCoV: Study shows BCG revaccination can boost immune efficacy of Covishield → https://old.reddit.com/r/CoronaVirus_2019_nCoV/comments/yf0mm6/study_shows_bcg_revaccination_can_boost_immune/ | 21:20 |
| Brainstorm | New from Reddit (test): CoronaVirus_2019_nCoV: Codagenix Initiates Dosing in Phase 3 Efficacy Trial of Intranasal COVID-19 Vaccine as Part of WHO-Sponsored Solidarity Trial Vaccines | Codagenix → https://old.reddit.com/r/CoronaVirus_2019_nCoV/comments/yf0sqk/codagenix_initiates_dosing_in_phase_3_efficacy/ | 21:30 |
| Brainstorm | New from Contagion Live: Long COVID Symptoms in 6% of People with Symptomatic Infection: Nearly 150 million people were affected by common symptoms of long COVID in 2020 and 2021, according to an analysis of global data on more than 1.2 million people. → https://www.contagionlive.com/view/long-covid-symptoms-in-6-of-people-with-symptomatic-infection | 21:39 |
| Brainstorm | New from CIDRAP: 15% of US COVID-19 survivors still have symptoms after a year: Mary Van Beusekom | News Writer | CIDRAP News Oct 27, 2022 Those who were vaccinated were less likely to report such symptoms, a new study finds. → https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2022/10/15-us-covid-19-survivors-still-have-symptoms-after-year | 21:49 |
| LjL | Compared with the early pandemic period of wild-type SARS-CoV-2 predominance, infection during periods when the Epsilon (OR, 0.81) or Omicron (OR, 0.77) variant prevailed was tied to a lower likelihood of long COVID, as was completion of a primary COVID-19 vaccine series before infection (OR, 0.72). Partial vaccination, however, was not associated with significantly lower risk (OR, 0.93). | 22:00 |
| LjL | i think this is the first time i see this type of analysis for long COVID, what does Omicron do specifically | 22:01 |
| LjL | anyway, not stellar neews | 22:01 |
| LjL | being vaccinated only makes for an odds ratio of 0.72, i kind of knew this from other studies, but still, underwhelming :( | 22:01 |
| Brainstorm | New from ##covid-19 Zotero group: Prevalence and Correlates of Long COVID Symptoms Among US Adults: Type Journal Article Author Roy H. Perlis Author Mauricio Santillana Author Katherine Ognyanova Author Alauna Safarpour Author Kristin Lunz Trujillo Author Matthew D. Simonson Author Jon Green Author Alexi Quintana [... want %more?] → https://www.zotero.org/groups/covid_links/items/J8LQ77ZP | 22:08 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for France: +37089 cases, +71 deaths since a day ago — Morocco: +46 cases, +2711 tests since a day ago — Albania: +42 cases since 23 hours ago | 22:11 |
| Brainstorm | New from CIDRAP: COVID-19 Scan for Oct 27, 2022: Human-to-pet COVID-19 spread COVID-19 conspiracy believers Global ebb in COVID cases → https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2022/10/covid-19-scan-oct-27-2022 | 22:27 |
| Brainstorm | New from ##covid-19 Zotero group: Early Release - Household Transmission of SARS-CoV-2 from Humans to Pets, Washington and Idaho, USA - Volume 28, Number 12—December 2022 - Emerging Infectious Diseases journal - CDC: Type Journal Article Author Julianne Meisner Author Timothy V. Baszler Author Kathryn E. Kuehl [... want %more?] → https://www.zotero.org/groups/covid_links/items/BHBWX6F8 | 22:36 |
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| Brainstorm | de-facto: From www.uzleuven.be: Mechanism behind deadly fungal infection on top of influenza or Covid-19 deciphered | UZ Leuven | 22:38 |
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| Brainstorm | de-facto: From www.thelancet.com: Lung epithelial and myeloid innate immunity in influenza-associated or COVID-19-associated pulmonary aspergillosis: an observational study - The Lancet Respiratory Medicine | 22:38 |
| LjL | fungular | 22:42 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for India: +2147 cases since 23 hours ago | 23:01 |
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| Brainstorm | New from University of Washington: A Giant in the Early Mycoplasma World: George Kenny.jpg Close George speaking at Ted Kuo’s retirement party in 2008 View image caption George Edward Kenny, former chair of the UW Pathobiology department, passed away on October 13, 2022. George, known around [... want %more?] → https://globalhealth.washington.edu/news/2022/10/27/giant-early-mycoplasma-world | 23:23 |
| ublx | from the white house press secretary two days ago: "You know, unlike COVID, which is purely airborne, with RSV, a lot of it is surface transmission. And therefore, washing hands turns out to be actually quite a good thing for RSV." | 23:40 |
| ublx | idk much about RSV tbh. if the white house is messaging that it is particularly fomitey, does that mean it's definitely airborne? | 23:41 |
| ublx | https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2022/10/25/press-briefing-by-press-secretary-karine-jean-pierre-and-covid-19-response-coordinator-dr-ashish-jha-6/ | 23:41 |
| de-facto | i dont see why RSV would not be airborne from a bio-physical standpoint of view its quite similar to SARS-CoV-2 (the virion) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Respiratory_syncytial_virus | 23:47 |
| de-facto | Human Respiratory syncytial virus (RSV) is an enveloped, nonsegmented negative-strand RNA virus of family Paramyxovirida and approximately 150nm in diameter hence medium sized round shape | 23:48 |
| ublx | apart from the oddity of such an official source saying "COVID is purely airborne", i'm reading it as "must say something out loud other than 'we'd prefer to ignore the airborne aspect of respiratory viruses'" | 23:50 |
| ublx | and perhaps since the cat is long since out of the bag on the airborne covid question, it's time to start pretending that has been official understanding this whole time | 23:52 |
| de-facto | its always a good idea to wash the hands, but surely with (respiratory) viruses this is far from sufficient to prevent transmission | 23:52 |
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