libera/#devuan-arm/ Monday, 2021-05-31

tuxd3vWell we have a new image for nanoPI NEO Air :)04:05
c0rneliustuxd3v: bootlin worked on getting that working like a year and half ago I believe? It's why LibreELEC can make beta imgs for the SoC.04:07
c0rneliusIt still needs mad cooling though... As it over heats.04:07
tuxd3vI have a nice cooler for it :)04:08
tuxd3vI have downclocked it, to ~1Ghz04:08
c0rneliusThey did it for a bunch of allwinner stuff. h3/h5/a64.04:09
c0rneliusMaybe others? I haven't bothered keeping track.04:09
tuxd3vthey discovered that downclocking it a bit, and also downclocking the dram would bring stability and a lot less heat04:09
c0rneliusI have no clue whom contracted them to do it?04:09
c0rneliusI would imagine it wasn't allwinner as they could care less :)04:10
tuxd3vyeah alwinner takes support for free, that sucks, they should be the first ones to support their SoCs04:11
c0rneliusSomeone with pockets in the sunxi community I would assume.04:11
tuxd3vbut like any other boards the mainline support still have lots of patches to be applied .. its a mess04:12
c0rneliusThats everything04:12
tuxd3vI dreamed with the day that we would have arm hardware with complete support, but  now I see that things get improving bot its not optimal yet..04:13
tuxd3vI don't know if it will ever be..04:13
c0rneliusI'm not a fan Libre Computer but all the boards they released besides the shit that involved FireFly is all mainlined. No patches needed.04:14
c0rneliusOf course they paid someone to do it, but still. Props.04:15
tuxd3vI have no board from them, are they well supported?04:15
c0rneliusThey are... Well? I don't know.04:16
c0rneliusI don't like the spokes person as we've had words. But the boards are fine.04:16
c0rneliusI don't believe they have really released anything of real interest in a whiles?04:17
c0rneliusarmstrong from baylibre does most of the mainline work for them from what I can tell.04:17
c0rneliusBut yeah... Its that promise the world and deliver on nothing shit you get from a lot of vendors and then eventual support comes as the SoC gets discontinued. Usual BS.04:19
tuxd3vindeed :)04:20
c0rneliusBut I could be being a bit harsh? I was about rash in our conversations :)04:20
tuxd3vno, that's the true, support is coming but very slowly and sometimes we get disappointed because we were with bigger expectations at beginning..04:24
c0rneliusMy personal feeling with most of the vendors that its just a racket.04:25
tuxd3vyou know that there are lots and lots of patches out there, that didn't make in time to mainline, we see that everyday :/04:25
c0rneliusExactly...Oh it can do this and that and this... But here is the catch? Wait two years! :)04:25
tuxd3vexactly :)04:26
c0rneliusArm moves so quickly that it just becomes stupid.04:26
c0rneliusIts mostly all community driven.04:27
c0rneliusAllwinner would be shit without Sunxi.04:27
tuxd3vindeed, and right now you don't see new improvments new Socs being released and such, but when they do its crazy..04:27
tuxd3vc0rnelius, indeed, I don't know why allwinner doesn't make a deal with them, it would be the most logic choice..04:28
c0rneliusThey don't care I would imagine? Making money for free?04:29
tuxd3vAllwinner, now is creating new types of Socs even for Riscv04:29
c0rneliusI like Allwinner. They just aren't team players.04:29
tuxd3vit will be a big mess, whait and see :)04:29
c0rneliusLike my Ex :)04:29
tuxd3v:)04:30
tuxd3vthey are now migrating to OFTC04:30
c0rneliussunxi?04:31
tuxd3vI was told that maybe when libera chat is stable, they maybe come to here..04:31
tuxd3vyeah sunxi04:31
c0rneliusOFTC isn't there where all the emo kids hang out?04:32
c0rneliusLets cry some more... Seems fitting.04:32
tuxd3vI didn't liked the Idea, but it was taken by someone important in the comunity..I respect him a lot, but I think he made a bad decision..04:32
c0rneliusI would think they'll just have a channel on both. Stupid not to really?04:33
tuxd3vbut they still are half in freenode, 20% in libera chat, and the rest in oftc :D04:33
tuxd3vthey are splited by 3 networks..crazy..04:33
c0rneliusThat guy whom bought freenode... Didn't think that through huh?04:34
c0rneliusFor sure not a forward thinker, unless the plan was to alienate the base community?04:35
tuxd3vyeah, he tought that he could just takeover of every thing..04:35
tuxd3vbut he is a fan of IRC04:35
tuxd3vhe has plans to decentralize freenode, some seems good..04:36
tuxd3vNow the deal he made with Christel in 2017 ..that deal was too much for the community..04:36
c0rneliusBeing a fan and understanding the underlining focus of the thing are two diff things I thinks? I could be wrong.04:36
tuxd3vI believe Chritstel, sould what she had, and whats not :D04:37
tuxd3vhe tought that was for real.. pam lots of people fleeing.. he is now in damage control mode..04:38
c0rneliusPersonally I'm not upset. I'm fine with watching things burn down when they need to be.04:38
tuxd3vthen the fact that he is the Crown prince of South Korea, doesn't help much, as this guys tend to be dictators..04:40
c0rneliusIts like dealing with google. No one company should have this much control. It seems to me thats the approach he took, but unlike google, google can just flick you the finger where he couldn't and get away with it.04:40
tuxd3vand the guy seems that is a ok guy, but I never knew him, he is a fan of IRC for decades..04:41
c0rneliusWell that's what the media says04:41
c0rneliusits called damage control04:41
c0rneliusHonestly I know of no in my real world interactions that even knows what IRC is.04:42
tuxd3vI saw in the news that Christel sold including users private data, to him.. can you imagine..04:42
c0rneliusSo there is that part of it.04:42
c0rneliusYeah thats pretty messed up.04:43
tuxd3vI understand that a company when sold the new owner needs to operate it, but that doesn't mean the older owner has the right to sell users own private data04:43
tuxd3vthat fricked me out a  bit04:43
c0rneliusPeople suck. thats all can say about it.04:44
tuxd3vthey could have done it in another way, grantings operational rights above the users data, intead of selling it..04:44
tuxd3vChristel is a bad person in my opinion..04:44
c0rneliusI lean more towards all people are bad people until proven other wise :)04:45
c0rneliusmotivations04:45
tuxd3vthat is a safe concept :)04:45
c0rneliusI don't even trust my siblings :)04:46
c0rneliusWell maybe one of them? kinda.04:47
tuxd3vyeah even with family we get sometimes very disapointed, it already happened to me, and probably with almost everybody :)04:48
c0rneliusFor me its not really disappointment? I understand that... It's a lack humility and compassion. But now we've gone of the rails and got into subject matter that isn't really fitting for an arm channel.04:50
c0rneliusoff*04:50
c0rneliusAnyway... people suck! :D04:51
c0rneliuscheers!04:52
tuxd3v:)04:53

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