libera/#devuan-arm/ Tuesday, 2021-06-22

gnarfacefrom what i vaguely understand it's just a highly proprietary and intrusive blackbox to fix the fact its architecturally inside-out (the GPU is the main processor and the CPU is subservient to it) ... nobody else does it this way.  most the other arm devices have their own propriety stuff but they structurally are more similar00:00
gnarfacemy guess is you could probably make a qemu build that runs very well for it.  i have no idea how much work that would take though.00:02
gnarfaceor even where to start really00:02
stiltrThat link looks like it's for emulating a pi on an x86_64 box.00:03
gnarfacethat's basically what qemu would be doing isn't it?00:03
gnarfaceoh, hmm. maybe that's the link to the info i'm hypothesizing about00:03
stiltrYeah, the Pi deffinitely has some interesting architectural issues. I just wasn't sure if you were referring to something qemu specific.00:04
zmomentI'm setting up on a x86_64 box but to try to run on a rpi4.  Have to check if it's feasible.00:04
stiltrMy understanding was that they were wanting to run a sandboxed image on actuall arm64 hw.00:04
stiltrOh, so end goal is running native on a Pi4?00:05
zmomentRun in a qemu aarch64 on a aarch64 RPi400:07
zmomentDebian seems to have a generic arm image https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/armhf/iso-cd/debian-10.10.0-armhf-netinst.iso00:07
zmomentalthough not aarch6400:07
stiltrYou can check out these guys: https://github.com/pyavitz/rpi-img-builder/releases/tag/images00:10
zmomentI had checked it before, following an older suggestion from this channel to me, maybe from you!  But it doesn't boot inside qemu.  It's fine for a sd card install.00:11
stiltrYou could probably drop in the kernel from that repo you linked onto their image.00:13
zmomentI'll try.  I got the impression that it was for Rpi2/3, but in a second read it seems that it refers to the host, not the guest.  English is not my main language, so some subtleties are not caught entirely :-)00:16
stiltrOh, that could be. Honestly I didn't look very closely. Well, your English seems better than mine, and it's my first language. haha00:19
c0rneliusMy images don't boot using qemu. Not sure any do to be honest? Not arm64 anyway.00:36
c0rneliusIt's been the issue section forever.00:36
c0rneliusbeen in*00:37
stiltrInteresting. I've never had any reason to try, so I have no idea.00:40
tuxd3vhave you guys tried to boot the mini.iso?01:36
tuxd3vin qemu?01:36
tuxd3vhttp://deb.devuan.org/devuan/dists/beowulf/main/installer-armhf/current/images/netboot/mini.iso01:37
tuxd3vhttp://deb.devuan.org/devuan/dists/beowulf/main/installer-arm64/current/images/netboot/mini.iso01:37
tuxd3von the miniiso i get always 'failed to find romfile "efi-virtio.rom"'03:44

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