DRWhite | Hi folks. | 07:56 |
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DRWhite | Trying to install devuan on an ARM device, but how the hell do I install it? | 07:56 |
rkta | you download the image and write it to the sd card? | 08:02 |
DRWhite | But that doesn't let me install it | 08:02 |
DRWhite | I am trying to install it onto an ARM device. | 08:03 |
rkta | What is your device? | 08:04 |
DRWhite | G50 5G | 08:04 |
rkta | the phone? | 08:04 |
DRWhite | or an E5 | 08:05 |
rkta | I don't think that this a supported device | 08:06 |
DRWhite | I didn't ask that | 08:06 |
DRWhite | I'll wait fo rsomeone that will actually read what I'm asking | 08:06 |
gnarface | it's not clear what you're asking | 08:46 |
gnarface | if you're looking for an "installer" type image, that's not how the supported arm images work | 08:47 |
gnarface | they're all basically just pre-installed disk images you write to bootable media | 08:47 |
gnarface | if you know that already, and your device isn't supported, you're asking basically how to build a custom kernel and u-boot for it, which probably nobody here can guess for you (probably would require some kernel and u-boot patch writing) | 08:48 |
gnarface | you might be able to infer most of the build parts from other documentation | 08:49 |
gnarface | that stuff isn't particularly distro specific | 08:49 |
gnarface | http://arm-files.devuan.org/README.txt have you read this at least? | 08:49 |
gnarface | if it is at least armel, armhf, or arm64 compatible so you can use the devuan repos to debootstrap a rootfs, you should only have to build a usable kernel and u-boot for it | 08:51 |
gnarface | note that actually getting the hardware to boot that may not be possible without proprietary knowledge from the vendor unless they at least let you boot from microSD somehow | 08:52 |
gnarface | the reason why it matters whether it's "supported" hardware or not is because every one of these images had to be custom-built for a particular device, that's just a limitation of the ARM architecture in general; there's no BIOS | 08:54 |
c0rnelius | a G50 5G as in the Moto phone? get real :) come on. | 08:55 |
gnarface | i'm not familiar with the device so i don't even know what cpu it has | 08:55 |
gnarface | or what class of cpus its in | 08:55 |
c0rnelius | doesn't matter its a phone. | 08:55 |
c0rnelius | even if you could some how get devuan running on it. it would be kind of useless. | 08:56 |
gnarface | well there's linux phone distros now, one is even based on devuan | 08:57 |
gnarface | they work on some phones, even for phone stuff... i just can't say whether that phone is one of them | 08:57 |
gnarface | hmmm... let's see here.... | 08:59 |
gnarface | https://leste.maemo.org/Category:Device | 08:59 |
gnarface | there motorola phones listed but doesn't look like that one is | 09:00 |
gnarface | three* | 09:00 |
gnarface | https://maemo-leste.github.io/ | 09:00 |
gnarface | still, maybe that's a good place to look for documentation first if you want to put devuan on a phone | 09:00 |
gnarface | at least their irc channel should have a more relevant knowledge base about it | 09:01 |
c0rnelius | would need to be able to unluck the bootloader for starters. | 09:01 |
c0rnelius | and yeah I know older moto phones can do this, but since the sell to Lenovo I don't know? | 09:01 |
c0rnelius | but still... seems like a pointless venture. Install Lineage OS and call it a day. | 09:03 |
gnarface | i assume the G50 is not the same as the G (2014) ? | 09:03 |
c0rnelius | not sure to be honest. I haven't had a Moto sense the last Moto X and before the company was sold. | 09:04 |
gnarface | ubuntu touch lists a lot more (partially) supported phones, including two motorola phones not listed by maemo-leste, but nothing called the E5 or G50 specifically | 09:04 |
onefang | My post Lenovo Moto Z can apparently be unlocked. Something that's on my TODO list. | 09:05 |
c0rnelius | the G50 5G is a 2021 release | 09:05 |
gnarface | the UT support synopsis for the G infers they have motorola-specific device unlock info somewhere in the website but doesn't link to it directly | 09:06 |
c0rnelius | yep thats how I unlocked my old motos. the web site. | 09:06 |
onefang | I don't think DRWhite is paying attention any more. | 09:06 |
c0rnelius | all the patents and stuff were kept by google after the sell of Motorola anyway. kind of why I lost interest. | 09:08 |
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