| * Centurion_Dan is anticipating something big today.... | 01:18 | |
| * Centurion_Dan a big event we've all been waiting for... | 01:18 | |
| KatolaZ | fsmithred: you here? | 08:34 |
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| golinux | He will be in another 4 hours. | 08:38 |
| golinux | Maybe 3 | 08:38 |
| KatolaZ | fsmithred: you here? | 11:24 |
| fsmithred | katoloz, I'm here | 12:35 |
| KatolaZ | hey | 12:37 |
| KatolaZ | howdy? | 12:37 |
| fsmithred | hi | 12:37 |
| fsmithred | should I be uploading? | 12:37 |
| KatolaZ | well, sure, if you are ready | 12:37 |
| KatolaZ | I simply noticed that there is a glitch in refractainstaller | 12:37 |
| fsmithred | help page? | 12:38 |
| KatolaZ | I tried to install on a qemu virtual disk | 12:38 |
| KatolaZ | from minimal-live | 12:38 |
| KatolaZ | and it fails to boot | 12:38 |
| KatolaZ | for some reason that I don't understand | 12:38 |
| KatolaZ | it does not find the root fs | 12:38 |
| fsmithred | did you run with -d option? | 12:38 |
| KatolaZ | nope, I can try now | 12:39 |
| KatolaZ | I also tried reinstalling grub from chroot | 12:39 |
| KatolaZ | same outcome | 12:39 |
| fsmithred | that will do 'set -x' | 12:39 |
| fsmithred | shit | 12:39 |
| KatolaZ | avgain, this is not vital | 12:39 |
| fsmithred | no uefi in the minimal, right? | 12:39 |
| fsmithred | oh, there's another glitch | 12:39 |
| KatolaZ | since minimal-live is not the recommended way to install | 12:39 |
| KatolaZ | (no uefi) | 12:39 |
| fsmithred | help page doesn't show | 12:39 |
| KatolaZ | for refractainstaller? | 12:40 |
| fsmithred | simple fix for now is to have rootfs_overlay/usr/share/doc/refractainstaller-base/readme.refractainstaller.txt | 12:40 |
| fsmithred | package has it as .txt.gz, script looks for .txt | 12:40 |
| fsmithred | I've never installed in a qemu virtual disk. Is it much different from virtualbox? | 12:41 |
| fsmithred | just acts like a real disk? | 12:41 |
| KatolaZ | yep | 12:42 |
| fsmithred | bios boot, grub-pc installed, it should ask you where to put the bootloader before it asks for which partitions to use | 12:42 |
| fsmithred | and it should do it | 12:43 |
| KatolaZ | yep | 12:45 |
| KatolaZ | it does | 12:45 |
| KatolaZ | I am trying now with an msdos disklabel | 12:46 |
| KatolaZ | previous was gpt | 12:46 |
| fsmithred | did you read the warning about htat? | 12:46 |
| fsmithred | special partition needed | 12:46 |
| KatolaZ | uh? | 12:46 |
| KatolaZ | which warning? | 12:47 |
| fsmithred | gpt with bios boot | 12:47 |
| KatolaZ | oh | 12:47 |
| fsmithred | the installer should have mentioned it | 12:47 |
| KatolaZ | that might be the problem then | 12:47 |
| KatolaZ | dunno | 12:47 |
| KatolaZ | I was in "dummy" mode | 12:47 |
| fsmithred | need >1MB unformatted partition | 12:47 |
| fsmithred | yup | 12:47 |
| KatolaZ | OK OK OK OK oK oK | 12:47 |
| KatolaZ | :D | 12:47 |
| fsmithred | lol | 12:47 |
| fsmithred | otherwise grub fails | 12:47 |
| fsmithred | someday we should make an installer that does the partitioning for you | 12:48 |
| KatolaZ | no grub does not fail | 12:48 |
| KatolaZ | that's the problem | 12:48 |
| fsmithred | (before gparted becomes unavailable) | 12:48 |
| KatolaZ | the kernel loads, bu can'd find the / partition | 12:49 |
| KatolaZ | same outcome | 12:49 |
| parazyd | Shoudn't it be looking for the initramfs? | 12:49 |
| KatolaZ | :\ | 12:49 |
| KatolaZ | yep | 12:49 |
| fsmithred | during the installation, grub is not very talkative about it | 12:49 |
| KatolaZ | but it should load it from the / | 12:49 |
| parazyd | So check that it's named correctly in isolinux.cfg | 12:49 |
| KatolaZ | nope | 12:50 |
| KatolaZ | it's grub | 12:50 |
| KatolaZ | not isolinux | 12:50 |
| parazyd | Same | 12:50 |
| parazyd | Mount the disk with qemu-nbd | 12:50 |
| parazyd | See if it's in place | 12:50 |
| fsmithred | let me see the debug log | 12:50 |
| KatolaZ | and "-d" does not set +x | 12:51 |
| KatolaZ | :\ | 12:51 |
| KatolaZ | anyway, I wouldn't consider this major | 12:51 |
| KatolaZ | could also be a glitch in qemu | 12:51 |
| KatolaZ | who knows... | 12:51 |
| KatolaZ | VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0) | 12:52 |
| fsmithred | in cli installer it should be obvious when you're in debug mode - you see extra text | 12:53 |
| KatolaZ | hold on | 12:53 |
| KatolaZ | let me try something | 12:53 |
| fsmithred | something wrong with the disk? | 12:53 |
| KatolaZ | (yes I know, but I don't see the expected output from set +x) | 12:54 |
| fsmithred | set -x | 12:54 |
| KatolaZ | yep | 12:54 |
| fsmithred | (Warning, I'm not really awake yet) | 12:54 |
| KatolaZ | ok | 12:57 |
| KatolaZ | I found it | 12:57 |
| KatolaZ | it's the damn non-canonical name in the initramfs | 12:57 |
| KatolaZ | FFS | 12:57 |
| KatolaZ | why has linux become "smart"? | 12:57 |
| KatolaZ | :\ | 12:57 |
| fsmithred | I've seen warnings about that, but I don't know what it means | 12:57 |
| KatolaZ | shouldn't it get /initrd.img ? | 12:58 |
| KatolaZ | (I managed to boot by specifying the initrd file) | 12:58 |
| fsmithred | grub uses the full path/filename | 12:58 |
| KatolaZ | ffs | 12:58 |
| KatolaZ | that's WRONG | 12:59 |
| fsmithred | lol, especially wrong if you have to type it | 12:59 |
| fsmithred | yeah, it always puts the newest one first | 12:59 |
| KatolaZ | it wants a fucking version | 13:00 |
| KatolaZ | that's sick man | 13:00 |
| KatolaZ | an the EU paid for grub 2 | 13:02 |
| KatolaZ | :\ | 13:02 |
| fsmithred | well, it's versatile | 13:04 |
| fsmithred | (do everything, not necessarily well) | 13:04 |
| fsmithred | I keep toying with the idea of adding extlinux to the installer | 13:04 |
| KatolaZ | how do I force the name of initrd.img in grub.cfg? | 13:06 |
| KatolaZ | I can edit it, but this is not enough | 13:06 |
| KatolaZ | 'cause it will go away at the next grub-install | 13:06 |
| fsmithred | add an entry to /etc/grub.d/40_custom | 13:07 |
| KatolaZ | oh no it does not go away | 13:08 |
| KatolaZ | so it's grub-reconfigure whatever that rewrites grub.cfg, right? | 13:09 |
| fsmithred | update-grub, not grub-install | 13:09 |
| KatolaZ | ok | 13:09 |
| KatolaZ | let me try | 13:09 |
| fsmithred | KatolaZ, do we or will we make torrents of the live isos? | 13:11 |
| KatolaZ | OK I can fix it | 13:12 |
| KatolaZ | sure | 13:13 |
| KatolaZ | we will have a torrent for all the images | 13:13 |
| KatolaZ | parazyd: ^^?? | 13:13 |
| fsmithred | oh yeah, I forgot about that | 13:13 |
| parazyd | KatolaZ: Yes, once everything's in place. | 13:16 |
| KatolaZ | fsmithred: fixed | 14:40 |
| KatolaZ | damn grub2 | 14:40 |
| fsmithred | KatolaZ, I saw your outline for release notes. Is someone writing a generic one for all isos? | 14:57 |
| fsmithred | I have to go. Will be back in about 6-7 hours. (will be at meeting today) | 14:58 |
| KatolaZ | fsmithred: what do you mean a generic one? | 15:22 |
| KatolaZ | Irrwahn: you here? | 17:16 |
| Irrwahn | KatolaZ: Kind of. | 17:23 |
| KatolaZ | :D | 17:23 |
| parazyd | golinux: about https://devuan.org/os/ | 18:08 |
| parazyd | Could we remove all the auto.mirror mentions? | 18:09 |
| parazyd | Or at least change the order so that ascii is above jessie | 18:09 |
| KatolaZ | agree with parazyd | 18:09 |
| KatolaZ | let's move jessie down that page | 18:09 |
| parazyd | Devuan 1.0.0 Jessie default | 18:10 |
| parazyd | Devuan 2.0.0 ASCII default | 18:10 |
| parazyd | Country-code repositories | 18:10 |
| parazyd | reverse these | 18:11 |
| golinux | parazyd: The new site is on beta.devuan.org | 18:50 |
| parazyd | The same applies | 18:51 |
| golinux | Indeed answered before reading further. | 18:51 |
| parazyd | Hold on a sec | 18:51 |
| golinux | So ASCII Jessie CC or ASCII CC Jessie? | 18:52 |
| golinux | https://beta.devuan.org/os/etc/apt/sources.list | 18:52 |
| golinux | (I'm still waking up) | 18:53 |
| parazyd | golinux: https://ptpb.pw/e0Hf.png | 18:54 |
| parazyd | Like this | 18:54 |
| parazyd | And this is the actual order of preference | 18:55 |
| golinux | CC on the top? That look f'ing weird. | 18:57 |
| golinux | The default is deb.devuan.org | 18:58 |
| parazyd | It doesn't look weird. | 18:58 |
| golinux | Then what's the point of the round robin? | 18:58 |
| KatolaZ | golinux: also the country-codes are on the same rr | 18:59 |
| KatolaZ | actually, those will be on a more smart set of redirects soonish | 18:59 |
| golinux | I know. | 18:59 |
| KatolaZ | I might have a slight preference for putting deb.devuan.org first | 18:59 |
| golinux | So deb.devuan is a bit broken? | 19:00 |
| KatolaZ | but the most important thing is to remove Jessie from the top | 19:00 |
| KatolaZ | golinux: ? | 19:00 |
| KatolaZ | o_O | 19:00 |
| KatolaZ | what is broken? | 19:00 |
| golinux | <KatolaZ> actually, those will be on a more smart set of redirects soonish | 19:00 |
| KatolaZ | ehm, where did I say "broken"? | 19:00 |
| golinux | = less smart = a bit broken. | 19:00 |
| KatolaZ | no golinux | 19:00 |
| KatolaZ | that's wrong inference | 19:00 |
| KatolaZ | :\ | 19:01 |
| golinux | dumber = a bit broken to me. | 19:01 |
| KatolaZ | nope | 19:01 |
| golinux | Not important. | 19:01 |
| KatolaZ | smarter = better that the current solution | 19:01 |
| KatolaZ | does not mean that the current solution is broken | 19:01 |
| KatolaZ | it means that can be improved | 19:02 |
| KatolaZ | as anything | 19:02 |
| golinux | Oy . . . it's too early for this | 19:02 |
| KatolaZ | then leave it out | 19:02 |
| KatolaZ | we will handle it later | 19:02 |
| golinux | No time to fix the https://pkginfo.devuan.org/ styles yet, I see | 19:03 |
| KatolaZ | o_O | 19:03 |
| KatolaZ | https://pad.dyne.org/code/#/1/edit/uMZRomITn+hso67hiIIy8A/W-DdDZBjim8CZaZ5czRFUpmi/ <- mirror status | 19:58 |
| KatolaZ | (ISO mirror) | 19:58 |
| NewGnuGuy | parazyd: When does jaromil get back? The certificate for dyne.org and all of its subdomains expires tomorrow. | 21:12 |
| golinux | jaromil: ^^^ | 21:13 |
| parazyd | Next monday | 21:14 |
| parazyd | He should be around today too. Have you emailed him already? | 21:14 |
| golinux | NewGnuGuy: jaromil suggested sending emails | 21:14 |
| NewGnuGuy | jaromil knows. I contacted him on IRC and he ack'ed. That was about 3 days ago. | 21:15 |
| NewGnuGuy | Still not fixed tho | 21:16 |
| parazyd | I'll let him know | 21:16 |
| golinux | Is auto.mirror considered to be deprecated? | 21:30 |
| golinux | (working on that page now) | 21:30 |
| parazyd | yes | 21:31 |
| parazyd | and it will be decomissioned in the future | 21:32 |
| golinux | OK. I need to rewrite some of the text because of the reordering | 21:32 |
| golinux | parazyd: Will this do? | 21:34 |
| golinux | Note that auto.mirror has been deprecated. If you are upgrading from Jessie to ASCII or changing Jessie sources from the default auto.mirror, you must first install the latest keyring (version 2017.10.03 or above) with `apt-get install devuan-keyring`. Note that it is recommended to always use the 'release codename' (e.g., "jessie", "ascii") to identify package repositories. | 21:34 |
| golinux | That will be at the top of the page | 21:35 |
| parazyd | Well, the auto.mirror has the latest devuan-keyring as well | 21:35 |
| parazyd | I'm not sure where that paragraph fits in | 21:36 |
| golinux | # /etc/apt/sources.list | 21:37 |
| golinux | Note that auto.mirror has been deprecated. If you are upgrading from Jessie to ASCII or changing Jessie sources from the default auto.mirror, you must first install the latest keyring (version 2017.10.03 or above) with `apt-get install devuan-keyring`. Note that it is recommended to always use the 'release codename' (e.g., "jessie", "ascii") to identify package repositories. | 21:37 |
| golinux | ## Devuan 2.0.0 ASCII (stable) | 21:37 |
| golinux | oops | 21:37 |
| golinux | No that how the page will start. Then all the repo info after that. | 21:39 |
| golinux | I can commit so you can have a look. | 21:39 |
| parazyd | I don't think that the mentions of devuan-keyring are necessary. | 21:39 |
| golinux | So I need to take out the keyring instruction? | 21:40 |
| parazyd | But I might be wrong, maybe people don't update their systems | 21:40 |
| golinux | That was needed for the RC | 21:40 |
| parazyd | Maybe someone else should give some thought on this | 21:40 |
| parazyd | (not me, I mean) | 21:40 |
| parazyd | What about: auto.mirror is now deprecated and will be decomissioned. You should point your sources.list to deb.devuan.org and make sure you have the latest devuan-keyring package. | 21:41 |
| golinux | I was just thinking that. | 21:42 |
| golinux | I'll put the command there too. | 21:42 |
| golinux | Thanks. | 21:42 |
| parazyd | You're welcome. | 21:43 |
| parazyd | Maybe reword it a little bit though | 21:43 |
| golinux | Yeah, I was planning to ;) | 21:43 |
| parazyd | Also I'd probably put "latest package" before "point your sources.list" in the sentence. | 21:43 |
| parazyd | Not like what I wrote above. | 21:43 |
| golinux | How is this https://beta.devuan.org/os/etc/apt/sources.list | 21:51 |
| parazyd | 404 | 21:52 |
| parazyd | I was talking about this page all the time btw: https://beta.devuan.org/os/https://beta.devuan.org/os/ | 21:52 |
| parazyd | https://beta.devuan.org/os/ | 21:52 |
| golinux | I'm seeing it here | 21:52 |
| golinux | I need to change that page too. | 21:55 |
| golinux | I just started with the big page | 21:55 |
| golinux | I'll go do that now if that message meets your approval | 21:56 |
| golinux | ? | 21:57 |
| golinux | Tick tock | 21:57 |
| parazyd | I get a 404 on https://beta.devuan.org/os/etc/apt/sources.list.d/ | 21:58 |
| NewGnuGuy | parazyd: That page has been intentionally removed an merged into sources.list | 22:06 |
| golinux | Yes, all the sources.list pages have been deleted. | 22:07 |
| golinux | oops sources.list/d | 22:07 |
| golinux | KatolaZ wanted to KISS | 22:07 |
| golinux | There was no info in those pages that isn't available elsewhere. | 22:08 |
| KatolaZ | parazyd: that has been merged | 22:09 |
| golinux | Is https://beta.devuan.org/os/ OK? | 22:09 |
| KatolaZ | there was a massive overlap with the general page about repos | 22:09 |
| golinux | We keep tightening the site and reducing the unnecessary duplication and fragmentation. | 22:10 |
| golinux | Meet in 20 min. | 22:10 |
| parazyd | golinux: ACK on the page(s) | 22:17 |
| golinux | Thanks. | 22:20 |
| parazyd | Thank you | 22:24 |
| NewGnuGuy | y'all coming? | 22:34 |
| parazyd | I'm here but can't do video | 22:35 |
| parazyd | Still testing the installers. | 22:35 |
| golinux | Not seeing you at all | 22:35 |
| parazyd | here == irc | 22:35 |
| fsr | ok, we're in the chatroom | 22:42 |
| fsr | three of us | 22:42 |
| parazyd | I'm successful with the installers | 22:43 |
| KatolaZ | coming in 2min | 22:43 |
| parazyd | The virtual machines are already synced across mirrors | 22:43 |
| parazyd | embedded is being done atm | 22:43 |
| golinux | Where is everybody? | 22:44 |
| KatolaZ | status of mirrors: | 22:44 |
| KatolaZ | https://pad.dyne.org/code/#/1/edit/uMZRomITn+hso67hiIIy8A/W-DdDZBjim8CZaZ5czRFUpmi/ | 22:45 |
| KatolaZ | updated about 30 mins ago | 22:45 |
| parazyd | Awesome | 22:45 |
| golinux | parazyd: Please let me know when the torrent is set up | 22:46 |
| parazyd | golinux: After everything is synced | 22:46 |
| parazyd | Or allowed to be synced, the same. | 22:46 |
| parazyd | KatolaZ: open up the installers whenever :) I'd say it's fine. | 23:18 |
| KatolaZ | ok parazyd | 23:23 |
| KatolaZ | great | 23:23 |
| parazyd | KatolaZ: lmk when everything's in place. Then we can make the torrent file. | 23:24 |
| KatolaZ | parazyd: do you know if there are problems with using deb.devuan.org for the live-sdk? | 23:25 |
| parazyd | Yes, there can be on debootstrap. | 23:28 |
| KatolaZ | ok | 23:28 |
| KatolaZ | we have pkgmaster.devuan.org on the live | 23:28 |
| parazyd | I resort to pkgmaster to build the images, then it's easy enough to sed the file out. | 23:28 |
| fsr | at end of finalize? | 23:29 |
| parazyd | fsr: Whenever, blend_preinst and anything after is fine. | 23:29 |
| fsr | thanks | 23:29 |
| KatolaZ | what if we leave the live images with pkgmaster in sources.list? | 23:30 |
| KatolaZ | I think it's not a massive problem maybe? | 23:30 |
| KatolaZ | parazyd: ^^ | 23:31 |
| parazyd | It's not a problem at all. | 23:32 |
| parazyd | If anything it'll perform better :p | 23:32 |
| parazyd | brb | 23:33 |
| parazyd | b | 23:38 |
| parazyd | fsr, KatolaZ: One thing that comes to mind is that if the live is installed, refracta will (probably) copy over the same sources.list | 23:38 |
| KatolaZ | heheheh | 23:38 |
| parazyd | But I don't consider this a problem. | 23:39 |
| KatolaZ | yep | 23:39 |
| KatolaZ | it will | 23:39 |
| KatolaZ | but it's not really a problem | 23:39 |
| parazyd | golinux: Where's the link to the Jessie torrent on devuan.org? | 23:51 |
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