| mtnman | i've found a bug in the desktop0-live image. which package should i search against to see if it has already been reported? | 01:07 |
|---|---|---|
| NewGnuGuy | mtnman: fsmithred is in charge of the desktop live image, but I think he's afk. What's the bug? | 01:09 |
| mtnman | pulseaudio and bluetooth are installed, but pulseaudio-module-bluetooth is not included. | 01:10 |
| fsmithred | I can't tell what time it is. Are you still here, mtman? | 02:51 |
| fsmithred | maybe file the bug against task-xfce-desktop. That determines most of the packages in the desktop-live isos. | 02:53 |
| fsmithred | and if KatolaZ thinks it shouldn't be included in the task, I can add it to the build list. | 02:54 |
| fsmithred | NewGnuGuy, maybe you'll see mtman before I do. ^^^ | 02:55 |
| fsmithred | I'm on vacation and afk most of the time. | 02:55 |
| golinux | fsmithred: I have pulseaudio-module-bluetooth on a default jessie install. Let me go check ASCII | 02:59 |
| mtnman | hi yes i am still here | 03:00 |
| golinux | And also on ASCII | 03:03 |
| golinux | mtnman: I have pulseaudio-module-bluetooth installed on both jessie and ascii. Jessie was from the netinst and ascii from the desktop-live | 03:04 |
| mtnman | interesting. i will restart desktop-live and check once again. | 03:05 |
| fsmithred | I think I can find my package list. I'll check it. | 03:06 |
| fsmithred | nope. It's not in the package list. | 03:08 |
| fsmithred | golinux, you must have added something that pulled it in. | 03:09 |
| fsmithred | I checked i386 and amd64 | 03:10 |
| golinux | Hmmm . . . maybe vlc? | 03:14 |
| golinux | I don't have a bluetooth. | 03:14 |
| mtnman | devuan@devuan:~$ pactl load-module module-bluetooth-discover | 03:17 |
| mtnman | Failure: Module initialization failed | 03:17 |
| mtnman | devuan@devuan:~$ pactl list short | grep bluetooth | 03:17 |
| mtnman | devuan@devuan:~$ | 03:17 |
| mtnman | ASCII live-desktop | 03:17 |
| fsmithred | yeah, it's not in the list | 03:18 |
| fsmithred | if you file the bug report, I'll remember to add it when we make a point release | 03:18 |
| fsmithred | vlc installs without pulseaudio, so probably something else. | 03:19 |
| fsmithred | oh, I have Recommends exluded. That might make a difference. | 03:19 |
| mtnman | ok. and another question: i'm not sure why the screensaver is password protected, but boot is not? | 03:20 |
| fsmithred | boot live iso bypasses the need for password | 03:20 |
| fsmithred | that's built into live-config or live-boot | 03:20 |
| fsmithred | screensaver can lock the screen, which requires a password to unlock | 03:21 |
| fsmithred | if you install to hard drive, you'll need a password to log in. | 03:21 |
| fsmithred | (unless you choose to keep auto-login) | 03:21 |
| mtnman | ah... | 03:21 |
| fsmithred | the live system also allows sudo for all commands | 03:22 |
| fsmithred | that gets disabled upon install, unless you choose to keep it | 03:22 |
| fsmithred | installer will also let you set sudo only for shutdown/reboot... | 03:22 |
| mtnman | i see. so the live-desktop is really designed for eventual installation to HDD | 03:22 |
| fsmithred | yeah, it uses refractinstaller, which copies the running system | 03:23 |
| fsmithred | consequently, any changes you make in the live session will be retained in the installation | 03:23 |
| mtnman | i read about that and was going to experiment with refractinstaller. | 03:23 |
| fsmithred | please do. It's designed for that. | 03:24 |
| fsmithred | changes, I mean. | 03:24 |
| fsmithred | and if you want to really dive in, it's written in bash | 03:24 |
| fsmithred | read the config file | 03:24 |
| fsmithred | and find me if you have questions | 03:25 |
| mtnman | ok. thanks. | 03:25 |
| fsmithred | I'll be mostly afk for two more weeks | 03:25 |
| mtnman | have a nice trip. where are you going? | 03:26 |
| fsmithred | california. I'm already there. | 03:26 |
| fsmithred | and loving it. | 03:26 |
| mtnman | north or south? | 03:26 |
| fsmithred | bay area | 03:26 |
| fsmithred | normally, I'm in massachusetts | 03:27 |
| fsmithred | where it's either too hot or too cold | 03:27 |
| fsmithred | and almost always too humid | 03:27 |
| mtnman | hah, i have one sister in mass and one in oakland. | 03:27 |
| fsmithred | weird. My sister just moved out of oakland. That's who I'm visiting. | 03:28 |
| fsmithred | in san leandro now | 03:28 |
| mtnman | cool. thanks again. bye for now.... | 03:29 |
| mtnman | helo | 04:24 |
| mtnman | i am reporting a bug in the live-desktop iso. what package would i file the bug against? | 04:25 |
| fsmithred | mtnman, if it's the missing pulse-bluetooth thing, report against task-xfce-desktop and we'll figure out what to do with it | 04:49 |
| mtnman | yes it is. thanks. | 05:07 |
| fsmithred | mtnman, do you know if it gets installed if you use one of the installer isos and install a desktop with tasksel? | 05:20 |
| mtnman | fsmithred: no. i am running the desktop-live because i am cannot yet install to disk. | 05:23 |
| mtnman | fsmithred: i just checked and pulseaudio-module-bluetooth is not listed as dependency or even recommended by pulseaudio. | 05:30 |
| fsmithred | what can't you do without it? | 05:32 |
| mtnman | connect a bluetooth speaker | 05:32 |
| fsmithred | ok | 05:32 |
| golinux | Irrwahn: Where are the dependencies for elogind or policykit etc. defined? | 17:28 |
| golinux | Someone is trying to run ASCII Xfce without session management/polkit and can't kill the beast. | 17:29 |
| golinux | https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=2256 | 17:29 |
| golinux | Fell free to jump in and clear things up. | 17:29 |
| golinux | Feel | 17:29 |
| Irrwahn | golinux: My guess is it hinges on xfce4 (that is the package going by this exact name, not the DE in general), which depends on xfce4-session, which depends on polkit stuff, which in turn depends on either consolekit or elogind. | 18:07 |
| golinux | Thanks! I'll post that in that thread. | 18:07 |
| Irrwahn | At least that is what I see when following up the output of: | 18:08 |
| Irrwahn | apt-cache --no-recommends --no-suggests --no-conflicts --no-breaks --no-replaces --no-enhances rdepends *pol*kit* | grep xfce | 18:08 |
| Irrwahn | and: | 18:08 |
| Irrwahn | apt-cache --no-recommends --no-suggests --no-conflicts --no-breaks --no-replaces --no-enhances rdepends xfce4-session | 18:08 |
| Irrwahn | I never tried, but it should be possible to install an xfce4 desktop in ascii from the components without pulling in policykit et.al. | 18:10 |
| Irrwahn | Unless of course some other installed package requires polkit - there's a lot that potentially do. | 18:11 |
Generated by irclog2html.py 2.17.0 by Marius Gedminas - find it at https://mg.pov.lt/irclog2html/!