libera/#devuan-dev/ Wednesday, 2018-08-08

golinuxKatolaZ: There is an old package search function on devuan.org that needs to be redirected to pkginfo.15:39
golinuxI have have put a message on the main page https://devuan.org/os/packages/ but google keeps finding references to specific packages that bypass this entry point.15:40
golinuxThe links are broken on those pages because they are outdated and unmaintained.15:41
golinuxjaromil or Centurion_Dan ^^^  I'm hoping one of you can find a minute to do this.15:45
KatolaZgolinux: why we don't just remove the pages?17:18
golinuxBecause that will fubar all the google entries.17:26
golinuxThey would all come up as 404.17:27
golinuxThat's worse than having a page come up with broken links.17:28
golinuxAny calls to https://devuan.org/os/packages/* needs to go to pkginfo.17:29
KatolaZbetter a 404 than a wrong info17:31
KatolaZwe could redirect to pkginfo.devuan.org but not to the specific page17:32
KatolaZ(and, we shouldn't become the slaves of what google wants to show about devuan, IMHO)17:33
KatolaZinformation is mutable17:33
KatolaZif it changes and google cannot find it, it's a google's problem17:33
golinuxKatolaZ: It's a script that generates those pages.  There are not individual pages.  I never really understood how hellekin set it up.  Let me go poke around a bit to find the pieces17:42
KatolaZgolinux: I don't have access to the web server where devuan.org is served17:46
golinuxKatolaZ: The pages are here: https://git.devuan.org/devuan-editors/devuan-www/tree/beta.devuan.org/source/pages/os/packages/list17:46
KatolaZI guess the easiest would be to redirect anything under that to pkginfo.devuan.org17:46
KatolaZanyway, we CANNOT remain enslaved by a google search17:46
KatolaZseriously17:47
KatolaZpage disappear all the time17:47
golinuxYes.  I can delete that directory if you like.17:47
KatolaZas soon as they 404, google would remove them17:47
KatolaZif they don't, it's their indexing engine that sucks17:47
golinuxI could rewrite the info on all those pages to send them to pkginfo.17:48
golinuxShould have thought to do that before.17:48
KatolaZno golinux17:49
KatolaZyou should not rewrite anything17:49
KatolaZinformation becomes obsolete17:49
KatolaZand disappears17:49
KatolaZall the time17:49
KatolaZand this is *normal*17:49
golinuxOK then.  I leave it to you to do whatever is best.17:50
KatolaZeither we remove those pages, giving a 40417:50
KatolaZor redirect all of them to pkginfo.devuan.org (the homepage)17:50
golinuxI would prefer option2.  When people have gotten used to pkginfo, then the pages can be deleted17:52
KatolaZagain, information becomes obsolete, and this is just *normal*17:53
KatolaZ:)17:53
KatolaZyou can't use any more a link to a debian thing from 5 or 6 years ago17:53
KatolaZeven the wiki is all broken17:53
KatolaZand it's some sort of "official| documentation17:54
golinuxYou are admin on gdo so remove what you want then.17:54
golinuxI know in the past jaromil has preferred redirection17:54
golinuxTime for the Wed jitsi meet22:29

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