golinux | https://www.mail-archive.com/debian-devel@lists.debian.org/msg355832.html | 02:35 |
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Centurion_Dan | fsmithred: don' | 04:08 |
Centurion_Dan | don't swear: "if not, edit /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf to add 8.8.8.8" | 04:08 |
fsmithred | huh? | 04:09 |
Centurion_Dan | and don't encourage people to divulge their browsing habits to that evil lot.... | 04:09 |
fsmithred | I did also say opennic | 04:09 |
Centurion_Dan | googles dns^^ | 04:09 |
fsmithred | and golinux knows enough about google to make an informed decision | 04:10 |
Centurion_Dan | 8.8.8.8 is the new 666 :-o | 04:10 |
fsmithred | lol, yeah, I know. But it works. | 04:10 |
fsmithred | so it's good for testing | 04:10 |
Centurion_Dan | better off getting golinux to install unbound or some similar resolver and using that... | 04:11 |
Centurion_Dan | golinux does your ISP support IPv6? | 04:12 |
fsmithred | pretty sure it does not | 04:12 |
golinux | Nope | 04:32 |
golinux | So what is the best solution? | 04:34 |
golinux | It did speed things up a bit. | 04:34 |
golinux | Centurion_Dan: The only place we discussed that was in a query so how did you see it? | 04:37 |
Centurion_Dan | use unbound - that way you can bypass your isp | 04:38 |
golinux | You going to make me search? How did you know that we discussed that? | 04:39 |
golinux | We being fsr and yours truly | 04:39 |
onefang | Um, that chat was in this channel, I saw it to. | 04:41 |
golinux | Ah, OK. We had a followup today. | 04:43 |
golinux | Centurion_Dan: What does "using unbound" entail? | 04:44 |
golinux | Does it have an IP I can slap in that file? | 04:44 |
Centurion_Dan | > apt install unbound | 04:45 |
Centurion_Dan | and use 127.0.0.1 | 04:45 |
golinux | I am completely overloaded atm. At my age it doesn't take much . . . | 04:45 |
golinux | Centurion_Dan: Thanks. That I can do. | 04:46 |
golinux | Installing now | 04:46 |
golinux | E: unbound: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1 | 04:47 |
golinux | Centurion_Dan: ^^^ | 04:47 |
Centurion_Dan | what comes before that? | 04:47 |
golinux | https://pastebin.com/5z9ra4xH | 04:51 |
golinux | Centurion_Dan: ^^^ | 04:51 |
golinux | brb | 04:54 |
Centurion_Dan | hmmm so it fails to install because it hardcodes a group id which in your system is undefined... ... | 05:20 |
fsmithred | I get the same error with different group number | 05:24 |
fsmithred | adduser --quiet --system --group --no-create-home --home /var/lib/unbound unbound | 05:26 |
fsmithred | that's from the postinst script | 05:26 |
fsmithred | I had this problem before with some other package, but I don't remember what I did to fix it. | 05:27 |
fsmithred | Centurion_Dan, golinux: It installs fine after a reboot. | 05:37 |
golinux | Thanks. Will do that after I tidy up refracta and post the files | 05:40 |
golinux | Centurion_Dan: I rebooted and unbound installed. Do I have to do any manual configuration? | 07:40 |
golinux | Everything is quite peppy now. | 07:41 |
_moep_ | hello! | 07:41 |
golinux | Thanks for pointing me in that direction. | 07:41 |
golinux | Howdy | 07:41 |
Centurion_Dan | great. | 07:43 |
Centurion_Dan | golinux: you changed the prepend line in /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf to use 127.0.0.1 ? | 07:45 |
golinux | Yup | 07:45 |
golinux | Can I query to see what dns resolver is in use? | 07:45 |
Centurion_Dan | whats the output of "dhcp -av www.devuan.org" | 07:46 |
Centurion_Dan | oops... | 07:46 |
Centurion_Dan | that should be "host -av www.devuan.org" | 07:46 |
golinux | $ host -av www.devuan.org | 07:48 |
golinux | Trying "www.devuan.org" | 07:48 |
golinux | ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached | 07:48 |
Centurion_Dan | host -v www.devuan.org? | 07:49 |
golinux | It's still coming up from 8.8.8.8 | 07:49 |
Centurion_Dan | change /etc/resolv.conf to have "nameserver 127.0.0.1" | 07:50 |
Centurion_Dan | and try the host command again. | 07:51 |
golinux | https://pastebin.com/aekmQZUM | 07:51 |
golinux | Ah that fixed it. | 07:53 |
Centurion_Dan | how fast compared to google? | 07:54 |
Centurion_Dan | send me a pastebin | 07:54 |
golinux | Thanks. I hope that my isp doesn't overwrite it. | 07:54 |
golinux | Give me a sec | 07:54 |
Centurion_Dan | with the dhclient.conf prepend line, it will always default to using ubound now regardless of your isp' | 07:55 |
golinux | It's much faster than google | 07:55 |
golinux | Received 97 bytes from 127.0.0.1#53 in 59 ms | 07:56 |
golinux | Received 60 bytes from 8.8.8.8#53 in 469 ms | 07:56 |
golinux | That's surprising | 07:57 |
golinux | Do you till want me to paste the whole thing? | 07:57 |
Centurion_Dan | nah, that's good... unbound will cache the entry for the TTL and it will be faster that way always. | 07:58 |
Centurion_Dan | and your not feeding googles metadata harvesting monster either ;-) | 07:59 |
golinux | https://pastebin.com/T3Z7wnHs | 07:59 |
golinux | Oh I get that. I've just never messed with networking since I got a cable. | 08:00 |
golinux | I did get pretty good at troubleshooting diaup a very long time ago. | 08:01 |
golinux | That was really pretty painless. Thanks for pushing me in that direction | 08:01 |
Centurion_Dan | your welcome, now I dare you to write that up as a forum post ;-) | 08:04 |
golinux | Hmmm . . . I just might do that after I finish tweaking the refracta site. It's going to be a rather hellish week for me + rain and colder weather. UGH! | 08:05 |
pixelherodev | Hmm... maybe I'll install unbound... | 08:09 |
Xenguy | I'm still trying to understand what unbound actually does | 09:00 |
golinux | Xenguy: It's a DNS resolver | 09:49 |
Xenguy | golinux: Right, but why did you need it in the first place? | 09:50 |
golinux | The default of my ISP was really slow | 09:51 |
golinux | And probably tracking my every move | 09:51 |
Xenguy | aha, OK, so you wanted to configure better nameservers then? | 09:52 |
Xenguy | It seems that unbound includes some extra security features also | 09:53 |
golinux | Yes. | 10:08 |
golinux | I am relatively network-illiterate but this was easy (with a little help from my friends). | 10:09 |
Xenguy | It's probably not necessary, strictly speaking, to solve your issue, but nevertheless probably a good move generally | 10:14 |
Xenguy | And easy enough to setup, as you say | 10:15 |
Xenguy | TIL unbound is a better alternative to installing BIND locally | 10:18 |
mtnman | helo | 23:54 |
mtnman | is it worth filing a bug for irssi if it instructs to join #debian instead of #devaun? | 23:55 |
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