Centurion_Dan | gnu_srs2: It seems pointless because poettering would never let that into fedora... | 00:03 |
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LeePen | I did some work on policykit-1 in Debian earlier in the week to go with the new elogind. | 00:04 |
LeePen | It does need compiling separately to work with elogind. | 00:04 |
LeePen | There are no backends in the lates version (115) | 00:04 |
LeePen | I have a working debian packaging that build separate -systemd and -elogind packages | 00:04 |
gnu_srs2 | I have not spent time on this recently. | 00:05 |
LeePen | Once elogind is accepted I can push it to their policykit-1 maintainers | 00:05 |
gnu_srs2 | Please have a lock at what we did for ASCII: | 00:06 |
gnu_srs2 | look! | 00:06 |
LeePen | gnu_srs2: Thanks, yes I did. It was a great help. | 00:08 |
Centurion_Dan | LeePen, gnu_srs2: is there a possiblity to converge the packaging of policykit-1 to be able to build both debian and devuan from the same source? | 00:11 |
Centurion_Dan | perhaps using buildflags to set 'non-systemd' to differentiate them.. | 00:11 |
LeePen | Not if you still want console kit -- that has been removed from Debian | 00:12 |
gnu_srs2 | FYI: I spent several hours to make policykit-1 working in ASCII, together with elogind, consolekit, I hope those efforts are not wasted? | 00:14 |
LeePen | Not at all. Thanks | 00:15 |
Centurion_Dan | gnu_srs2: Not if I have anything to do with it ;-) | 00:17 |
Centurion_Dan | just heard that consolekit2 also now provides logind api integration as well. | 00:17 |
gnu_srs2 | Centurion_Dan: Good to know, is that is so. I have to admit I've not fully updated yet, being (more or less) for 5 weeks :D | 00:22 |
Centurion_Dan | 00:24 | |
Centurion_Dan | gnu_srs2: I guess the only question is, does consolekit2 deserve it's own package? | 00:26 |
Centurion_Dan | Or do I start clean. | 00:26 |
Centurion_Dan | ... stupid question... https://git.devuan.org/devuan-packages/ConsoleKit2 | 00:28 |
Centurion_Dan | already exists | 00:28 |
gnu_srs2 | Centurion_Dan: Nice seeing you are building consolekiit2. | 00:57 |
gnu_srs2 | How do we make this play with policykit-1/elogind | 00:58 |
Centurion_Dan | we continue to build policykit-1 consolekit integration | 01:37 |
Centurion_Dan | as we currently do for ascii. | 01:37 |
Centurion_Dan | anyone here familiar with lintian overrides?? | 02:35 |
KatolaZ | LeePen: just let me know when you are ready to build the new elogind for experimental | 15:24 |
LeePen | KatloaZ: Hi. Yes we are just about there. I am just wanting amesser to check my tree before I push it. I would hate to make a mess of devuan-packages. | 15:56 |
KatolaZ | LeePen: no rush | 16:31 |
KatolaZ | :) | 16:31 |
KatolaZ | just to let you know that I am available to help if needed | 16:32 |
LeePen | KatolaZ: I would be very happy for you to review it. https://git.devuan.org/LeePen/elogind/tree/suites/experimental | 16:55 |
LeePen | Thanks | 16:56 |
LeePen | Thinking about it, the one thing I might not have right is setting upstream-tag | 16:56 |
LeePen | How do you do that when the build is not based tagged point? | 16:57 |
LeePen | I am still thinking like Debian dsc/tarball build. | 16:58 |
KatolaZ | you need a tag in a branch | 17:03 |
KatolaZ | to correspond with the upstream source | 17:03 |
KatolaZ | have you built it with gbp buildpackage? | 17:04 |
LeePen | No, because there is no meson support in jessie, so | 17:04 |
KatolaZ | uh? | 17:05 |
LeePen | I have to use a cowbuilder chroot with the source tree bind mounted | 17:05 |
KatolaZ | gbp uses pbuilder (and cowbuilder) | 17:05 |
KatolaZ | (we should put this documentation out, I know) | 17:05 |
KatolaZ | gbp buildpackage --git-pbuilder --git-dist=unstable --git-arch=amd64 --git-ignore-branch --git-pbuilder-options="--configfile /etc/jenkins/pbuilderrc" | 17:06 |
KatolaZ | this requires you to have a cow for unstable | 17:06 |
KatolaZ | and jenkins-debian-glue installed | 17:06 |
KatolaZ | (but the last one is not mandatory) | 17:06 |
LeePen | Yes, but gbp uses dpkg-source to export the tree, and dpkg in jessie doesn't have the meson backend support that | 17:07 |
LeePen | current elogind uses. | 17:07 |
KatolaZ | are you on a jessie install? | 17:07 |
LeePen | Yes | 17:08 |
KatolaZ | oh ok | 17:08 |
KatolaZ | I can have a go at it later then | 17:08 |
LeePen | Thanks | 17:08 |
KatolaZ | but just in terms of buulding it | 17:08 |
LeePen | Yep | 17:08 |
KatolaZ | I don't have any elogind or consolekit installed | 17:08 |
KatolaZ | (ever) | 17:08 |
KatolaZ | and I wouldn't know how to test it | 17:09 |
KatolaZ | (well, this is half-true ;P) | 17:09 |
LeePen | You are too modest! | 17:09 |
KatolaZ | I mean that my testing wouldn't be massively useful | 17:09 |
KatolaZ | and this is true | 17:09 |
LeePen | Actually, I have just realised I can install pbuilder in the chroot and try it there. | 17:11 |
KatolaZ | oh sure | 17:11 |
KatolaZ | so you'll have a cow inside a chroot ;) | 17:12 |
LeePen | Yes. Seems silly, but at least I can sort out the upstream tag. | 17:12 |
KatolaZ | NP | 17:14 |
KatolaZ | I think the devuan-packages/elogind repo has an upstream branch | 17:15 |
LeePen | Yes, and I have it in mine too. | 17:16 |
KatolaZ | ok | 17:17 |
LeePen | KatolaZ: I have just created and pushed the tag and gbp buildpackage works fine. Thanks for your help. | 17:28 |
LeePen | y | 17:33 |
KatolaZ | LeePen: np | 17:52 |
KatolaZ | will review it later ok? | 17:52 |
LeePen | Yes, I am away from a computer now until Sunday night. | 17:54 |
KatolaZ | ok | 17:54 |
KatolaZ | np | 17:54 |
gnu_srs2 | Hi, I'd like to package eudev for Debian, any objections? | 19:09 |
gnu_srs2 | I know that Centurion_Dan did the latest changes when I was AFK. Really appreciated :) | 19:10 |
gnu_srs2 | Howver, I don't think we can propose the udev transitional package to them :( | 19:11 |
gnu_srs2 | However** | 19:12 |
KatolaZ | gnu_srs2: no objection at all | 19:22 |
KatolaZ | I only have the impression that there is no much interest about eudev, at least in debian-init-diversity | 19:22 |
KatolaZ | but I might be completely wrong | 19:22 |
KatolaZ | I agree that it is worth trying though | 19:23 |
KatolaZ | (even if the transitional package is indeed a problem) | 19:23 |
kilobyte | gnu_srs2: I think it's a waste of effort other than maybe in experimental. It's good to have on standby to keep Lennart from declaring udev systemd only, but having it in Devuan is good enough. | 20:32 |
kilobyte | *udev has so complex configuration and is so vital to the system that making them switchable would be damn hard | 20:33 |
gnu_srs2 | kilobyte: Yes, I was aiming to experimental, but without the transitional package 1:... udev it is harmless for systemd users :D | 20:37 |
gnu_srs2 | So it could even go into sid/testing/... | 20:38 |
gnu_srs2 | And Debian people willing to take the risk might even install it... | 20:39 |
gnu_srs2 | Centurion_Dan: Seems like I don't need to create new policykit-1 packages. LeePen already did that! However, I wonder if he added the -consolekit2 backend?? | 21:00 |
gnu_srs2 | I'd be very relieved for somebody else taking over the polkit stuff, it is really a big mess (and will be even messier with three backends...) | 21:02 |
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