libera/#devuan-dev/ Saturday, 2018-11-17

Centurion_Danthree backends?01:35
Centurion_Danwe don't need systemd and should explicitly not build it.01:36
freehckDoes the project need a mirror in Russia that's not available fulltime? I mean my home PC is usually up 24/7 but sometimes (rarely) it's not up. Uptime's about 95%.01:50
Centurion_Dangnu_srs2: LeePen's work isn't in https://git.devuan.org/devuan-packages/policykit-1 yet...02:32
Centurion_DanAre you not confused with his work on elogind??02:33
Centurion_DanI have to get out and mow the lawns, but I've got a nearly ready version of polkit for unstable to push  along with consolekit2.02:34
Centurion_Danconsolekit2 is built for experimental...05:08
gnu_srs2Centurion_Dan: yes, three backends if ever being accepted in Debian :P10:36
kilobyteI wonder, what's even the point in having consolekit in Devuan?  Unlike Debian you don't have kfreebsd nor hurd, and having extra backends that differ greatly is a lot of work.12:30
pixelherodevFuture hurd support maybe?21:51
KatolaZpixelherodev: can you help with that?22:44
pixelherodevMaybe? That wad a response to `<kilobyte> I wonder, what's even the point in having consolekit in Devuan?  Unlike Debian you don't have kfreebsd nor hurd, and having extra backends that differ greatly is a lot of work.`22:50
KatolaZoh the reply there is more simpler than that: guarantee alernatives22:51
pixelherodevI'd be glad to play with Hurd at some point22:51
KatolaZI haven't touched hurd in 10, maybe 15 years...22:53
pixelherodevI've never touched it22:56
pixelherodevBut I've started playing around with OSDev again recently and I want to22:56
kilobytehurd is really ridiculous23:00
kilobyteseems to be a research project that's dead but doesn't realize this yet23:01
kilobyteI don't mean "ridiculous" as purely a negative, more like "weird"23:01
kilobytesome of its ideas aren't bad, at least on the surface, but the result is making portability hard23:02
kilobyteon the other hand, kfreebsd uses a sane Unixy kernel where a syscall is a syscall, etc23:02
KatolaZhaven't touched kfreebsd in 5/7 years either23:04
kilobyteyeah, all its selling points have since appeared in Linux too23:06
gnu_srs2pixelherodev: In due time we will have both kFreeBSD and Hurd in Devuan :)23:35
kilobyte.oO( but who will do that work? )23:38
gnu_srs2We of course, are you in?23:40
* kilobyte glances at the hurd and kfreebsd lines on https://buildd.debian.org/status/package.php?p=openrc&suite=unstable which I co-maintain...23:46
kilobytegot to fix that, but it's not exactly my priority23:46

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