libera/#devuan-dev/ Tuesday, 2019-01-29

amessergolinux, are you stille here?06:46
golinuxKind of.07:22
golinuxI saw your message07:22
golinuxI'm not going to be building any packages.07:22
golinuxamesser: ^^^07:22
golinuxI'm trying to find something in the labyrinth of the website markup and having no success.07:23
golinuxmarkdown07:24
golinuxactually.07:24
golinuxI know I'm not making much sense.  Was neaded to bed and forgot I wanted to do something on the site.l07:25
amesserlol07:33
amesserthen we have to wait until the beowulf repos have been setup to use the elogind package from leepen07:34
amesserWe should probably trigger KatolaZ or someone else on that who has the force07:37
golinuxThe lack of functionality is hampering the theming.07:44
golinuxI need to be able to move files around and mount usb and get into synaptic.07:44
golinuxSorry to be a little cranky . . . please don't take it personally.07:45
amessernp07:45
amesserif you have sudo, you can also do "sudo -E synaptic" from commandline.07:46
amesserIf you trust me, I could also put the built debs to forum for download?07:52
golinuxNo sudo here.08:04
golinuxIt used to work with su -08:04
KatolaZamesser: I am triggered :)10:28
KatolaZwas just waiting for someone who has worked on elogind before importing LeePen's repo in devuan-packages10:29
KatolaZbut if I don't get an answer, I will build the package by today10:29
KatolaZamesser: no need to post the debs to the forum10:35
KatolaZlet's put them in the repo10:35
KatolaZ:)10:35
KatolaZlet's have them in unstable and testing10:35
KatolaZpolkit is currently broken in beowulf anyway10:35
KatolaZthe new packages cannot do more harm10:35
amesserKatolaZ: OK fine then.13:16
amesserFor me they worked properly13:16
amesserthe packages I mean. Maybe some fixes to dependencies are still required but this could be fixed in another version, after we got some feedback from the users13:19
amesserAh, I'm sorry, i didn't respond to your mail on devuan-dev but to Mark's one13:21
KatolaZamesser: ok14:58
KatolaZamesser: no worries14:58
KatolaZI will merge the repo into devuan-packages tonight then14:58
amesserthx14:58
amessergolinux would be happy :-)14:59
KatolaZwill put the current unstable branch in another branch, just in case14:59
amesserbtw, when you're sleeping :-)14:59
KatolaZwell, maybe a tag would be enough actually14:59
amesser?14:59
KatolaZoh yes14:59
amesseri'mean always working :-)14:59
KatolaZbut golinux should have pinned the packages14:59
amessersure14:59
KatolaZas also discussed in dev1galaxy14:59
fsmithredthat works for upgrades. Pretty sure she did a mini.iso install.15:00
fsmithredyou get a lot of old devuanized packages that way15:00
KatolaZfsmithred: like?15:01
fsmithredhang on and I'll make a list15:02
KatolaZif you install beowulf, there are no old devuanised packages at all15:02
fsmithredstuff with devuan2.1 in the version15:02
KatolaZunless you install ceres15:02
KatolaZI am totally positive15:02
KatolaZthere are two monitors that generate package lists in beowulf and ceres15:02
KatolaZvs ascii, stretch, buster, and sid15:02
KatolaZbeowulf is clean15:03
KatolaZhas only devuanised packages coming from unstable15:03
KatolaZthose that we have rebuilt already for unstable15:03
KatolaZsome are still missing15:03
KatolaZbut we are getting there15:03
fsmithredutil-linux                     2.32.1-0.1+devuan2.115:03
amesser yes, thatswhy it broke for golinux :-)15:03
KatolaZthat's OK15:03
fsmithredlibudev1:amd64                 1:3.2.7+devuan1.115:03
KatolaZit's the same version as in unstable15:03
KatolaZbtw list15:04
KatolaZbbl15:04
KatolaZo/15:04
KatolaZgotta run15:04
KatolaZ!15:04
KatolaZ:)15:04
fsmithredok15:04
amesserlol15:04
fsmithredme too15:04
golinuxYes, I installed from the mini-iso so no ascii packages to pin.  It was stupid to upgrade but I wanted to get the apt security patch16:25
golinuxI probably should have pinned the packages once I got it working but too late now as they have vanished.16:27
LeePengolinux: if you need polkit to work now and can't wait for the new packages to be built for unstable, you could use the ones from16:30
golinuxI am totally focused on theming atm so not much brainspace to sort out.  Hopefully the fix will come with an upgrade soon16:30
LeePenexperimental as you did a few weeks ago.16:30
golinuxOh, hi leepen16:30
LeePenHiya!16:30
golinuxI have experimental in my sources list16:31
LeePenYes, but you have to explicitly request those packages, as you did before with apt-get.16:32
golinuxOK.  I think I put that on the Xfce forum.16:32
golinuxI thought the packages might not be there anymore.16:33
LeePenLet me check...16:33
LeePen[experimental] policykit-1-0.105-18+devuan2.316:34
golinuxThis is the line I used last time:16:35
golinux# apt-get install libpolkit-agent-1-0=0.105-18+devuan2.3 libpolkit-backend-1-0-elogind=0.105-18+devuan2.3 libpolkit-gobject-1-0-elogind=0.105-18+devuan2.3 policykit-1=0.105-18+devuan2.3  policykit-1-gnome=0.105-716:35
golinuxShould I just run that again?16:35
LeePenLooks right to me. It *should* fix it for the moment until the new packages are in unstable.16:36
golinuxDo I have to -f a downgrade?16:36
LeePenThere will be a downgrade warning if you have16:37
LeePen[beowulf] policykit-1-0.105-2516:37
golinuxSorry if that's a stupid irrelevant question.16:37
LeePenKatolaZ always says there are no stupid questions!16:38
golinuxOK.  Let me fire up the VM and give it a try16:38
fsmithredis that version older than the one in ascii? (devuan2.3 vs. devuan2.11)16:39
KatolaZLeePen: we are merging your branch into devuan-packages/polkit later16:40
KatolaZand then we build it for unstable16:40
KatolaZit cannot be more broken than now :D16:40
KatolaZ;)16:40
golinuxI ran that command and it did nothing16:41
LeePenKatolaZ: thanks. I have a couple of refinements, but they can wait16:41
golinuxOh I see . . .an extra# from the copy16:42
golinuxOK.  Done16:43
fsmithrednothing like commenting out your commands16:44
fsmithredlol16:44
fsmithredtime for firewood. brb.16:44
golinuxHey all.  Looks like that worked.  Synaptic is back16:45
golinuxStay warm fsmithred16:45
LeePenExcellent.16:45
LeePenWe finally had some snow today :)16:45
* LeePen loves the snow16:46
golinuxThanks all for nursing me along16:46
golinuxNo more upgrades for me. until the theme is completed16:47
LeePenYou are welcome. It should be easier once beowulf has proper packages.16:47
golinuxI so don't like to live on the cutting edge . . .16:48
LeePenThe view can be nice ;)16:49
golinuxYEA!  USB is back too.16:49
LeePenHappy Days!16:50
golinuxIndeed.  Now I have to get to work.  Head swimming with colors16:50
fsmithredso which version is better for beowulf, the one in exp or the one in ascii?16:55
fsmithredLeePen, ^^^16:55
LeePenfsmithred: I am not sure. But for golinux we knew this works and in a few hours we should have new packages in ceres.16:56
fsmithredgreat!17:00
KatolaZfsmithred: the one in ascii, most probably17:02
KatolaZbut there will be beowulf packages by tonight, if everything goes well :)17:02
KatolaZbbl17:02
Centurion_Dano/20:54
fsmithredhi Centurion_Dan20:54
Centurion_Dansorry about being offline for so long... with summer holidays and my Dads sudden passing away really took it's toll.20:55
fsmithredsorry to hear about your dad20:55
Centurion_Danreality has set in however and it's back to work...20:55
fsmithredyeah20:55
fsmithredis it possible to change dependencies on a package in amprolla without rebuilding the package?20:56
fsmithredRecommends, actually20:56
Centurion_Danfsmithred: yes... well it used to be.  The new amprolla dropped the overrides processing that allows that, but I have an outstanding task to fix that and a few other quirks.20:57
fsmithredI have a reason for you to do it20:57
Centurion_DanI'm all ears...20:58
fsmithredgrub-efi-amd64 recommends grub-efi-amd64-signed20:58
fsmithredthat gives you debian's signed efi bootloader20:58
Centurion_Danah... secureboot support...20:58
fsmithredproblem is, it's in a bootloader dir called devuan20:58
fsmithredbut the grub.cfg that gets used to load the actual grub.cfg is looking for a dir named debian20:59
Centurion_Danthe issue is who is it signed by??20:59
fsmithredno, the issue is it results in booting to grub prompt20:59
fsmithredeasy fixes: don't install the signed package, (no-recommends)21:00
fsmithredbut most people wont' do that21:00
fsmithredother fix, if you need secure boot to work is to run 'grub-install --bootloader-id=debian'21:00
fsmithredafter you boot from grub command line21:00
fsmithredor in a chroot21:00
fsmithredor we deal with MS and get our own signed bootloader and repackage grub21:01
Centurion_Danfsmithred: surely the signed bootloader is a separate package...21:26
fsmithredit gets built with grub21:28
Centurion_Danhttps://wiki.debian.org/SecureBoot/Discussion21:36
KatolaZLeePen: are you around?23:03
KatolaZLeePen: building policykit-1 now23:11
KatolaZfingers crossed23:11
LeePenKatolaZ: Yes23:32
KatolaZhey23:34
LeePenarmel and arm64 fail??23:37
KatolaZproblems with tests23:39
KatolaZadt-run23:39
KatolaZI am disabling it23:39
KatolaZit succeeds on ppc64el and amd64 though23:39
heaven-hi AntoFox, how are you doing today? :)23:41
heaven-im glad to hear it, my fellow friend23:41
heaven-you are a nice man for knowing how to join a channel23:41
KatolaZok LeePen it looks like skipping the tests did the trick23:50
LeePenKatolaZ: good. is that something that needs including in git?23:51
LeePenwhy are there lots of test failures? There was elogind on i386 too?23:52
LeePenAm I missing something?23:52
KatolaZit's a problem with adt-run, not specifically with the policykit tests23:52
KatolaZnope23:52
KatolaZsome of the buildhost might23:53
KatolaZthey have changed the interface to pbuilder23:53
LeePenOK. I won't worry about it ;)23:54
KatolaZI have to have a closer look there23:54
LeePenLet's see what wider testing throws up. I have a couple of refinements and lintian fixes queued already.23:57
LeePenThanks, as always.23:57

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